Syndergaard’s MRI Negative, Is “Essentially Fine”

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Update: May 27 5:33 p.m.

Noah Syndergaard’s MRI results have come back negative says Marc Carig of Newsday. Syndergaard’s doctors have recommended he do some “shoulder stretching exercises”.

Alderson stated that the Mets top pitching prospect is “essentially fine”.

Mets can now collectively exhale.

Original Post: May 26 12:10 p.m.

Mets top pitching prospect Noah Syndergaard has been bumped from today’s start at Triple-A Las Vegas, placed on the DL and is heading to New York for an examination of his elbow by team doctors.

The Mets are calling the issue is a flexor-pronator strain and his exam will most likely include an MRI of his right elbow.

Anthony DiComo of Mets.com says that a flexor-pronator strain was a precursor to Tommy John surgery for other pitchers and recently Stephen Strasburg and Josh Johnson. But he adds that for many, many other pitchers it was not.

Syndergaard last pitched on Thursday, allowing three earned runs on five hits and two walks in five innings pitched.

In ten starts for Las Vegas, the young 21-year old righty has a 4.04 ERA and 1.452 WHIP over 53.2 innings pitched.

More to come, but keep your fingers crossed…

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  • Connor O’Brien

    Oh no…

  • Scottymike

    Just got the Generation k 50 pound weight hit my gut

    http://www.sportsandortho.com/minneapolis/flexor-pronator-strain.htm

  • tlopez57

    Nice job calling it a flexor pronator strain like we all know what that is

  • mr. belvedere

    oh my god no

  • Mikey

    Well at least it’s not a flexor Pornator strain which you get from watching too much porn…

  • Connor O’Brien
  • metsman

    I guess computers are only good for looking up porn and spouting opinions?

  • @ScoreboardSteve

    Because this is EXACTLY what this team needs…..

  • mr. belvedere

    I swear if we lose Harvey and Thor to TJ surgery in less than 12 month span…this franchise has nothing but bad luck

  • mets4lyfe

    I’m not really disappointed because TJS has become the rite of passage for young pitchers. It has become such a common thing that you expect it from a young hard thrower at some point.

    Anyways, the Mets still have Niese, Gee, Colon, deGrom, Wheeler, And Montero. They’ll continue to lose well pitched games because their offense is awful.

  • Connor O’Brien

    This injury the Mets say Syndergaard has sometimes leads to Tommy John surgery, but with proper rest and recovery, the vast majority of the time, it does not.

    Here is an article from a good Twins blog on this injury:

    http://www.twinkietown.com/2011/8/10/2354928/kyle-gibson-injury-analysis-flexor-pronator-muscle-strains-and

  • Understandable with so many pitchers going down to Tommy John surgery already to be concerned but hopefully it ends up being nothing more serious than what has been reported.

  • Matt Mosher

    The sliver of good news is, most times, this does not involve the UCL and does not result in TJ. Keep your fingers crossed that this is the same as the majority of cases.

  • mets4lyfe

    Look at the Nats, they lost Zimmermann and Strasburg to TJS. Now they might be losing Gio to a shoulder problem.

  • tacknaf

    we’re snakebitten baby

  • Guest

    RIP the entire Mets organization. its over

  • billpulsipher

    the diff is they have a 170 million dollar payroll and spend money. they arent some joke small market scrub franchise

  • willywater88

    With drug testing less of an issue, the investigation of TJS has to be baseball’s number one priority now. This is absolutely ridiculous.

  • Metfan9876

    Look at the Rays. They’ve lost so many guys to start this year it’s ridiculous

  • You didn’t read the title? Or the part where I said he was getting his elbow examined? You want to complain feel free, but please get your facts straight and don’t just complain for the sake of trolling.

  • mr. belvedere

    c’mon Joe, you should have immediately included a medical diagram and a detailed description of the muscle from medical journals…what were you thinking?

  • Peter S

    Generation K at least made it to the pros.

  • sperry

    Even if it’s worst case scenario, it is not a reason to give up and start looking to 2016 like this FO basically did for 2015 when Harvey went down.

  • Destry

    This is not good news considering that our starting pitching has not been nearly as good as everyone thinks. Mets starters ERA 11th of 15 NL teams at 3.96. slightly ahead of the Phillies at 3.98 in 12th of 15 teams who play in a cracker jack stadium.

  • mets4lyfe

    I don’t have any data to support this, but I believe symptoms of TJS have always existed to this extent in the past. It’s just pitchers are more inclined to have TJS as soon as the symptoms appear because of the success rate of the surgery in modern times.

    Remember how pitchers would always say “my arm always hurts” in the past?

  • Joe, maybe next time to support all fans, in parenthesis state that he has a boo boo on his bendy.

  • PessiMets

    Come on we all know he is going u set the knife see u in 2016 noah

  • billpulsipher

    Harvey, Syndergaard, Wheeler…Pulsipher, Isringhausen, Wilson…..time to plan for 2016 baby…

  • Destry

    So lets see. Thor, Wheeler, Montero have not had TJ surgery yet. Most likely will in the next year of two. That leaves Niese, Gee, Harvey, deGrom, Colon. Looks like we might not be trading any pitchers after all especially if Niese’s shoulder flares up again.

  • Destry

    SO which one is the All-Star closer?

  • mets4lyfe

    Top pitching prospects have been hit with a rash of arm injuries this year.

    Taijuan Walker, Kyle Zimmer, Jameson Taillon, etc.

    I suppose Mets fans can take solace in that.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Wow. Classic Mets. Unreal.

  • Captain America

    Nats suck

  • Destry

    Danny Hultzen, Archie Bradley

  • Captain America

    Is that why you were out a few months?

  • PessiMets

    Which is why you can NOT win consistently with a low payroll!

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Or a digital version of the game Operation.

  • Mikey

    And why Pitching may win ONE championship but not PLURALS!
    Because you can never count on having Pitching for very long!

  • MikeyT

    See ya in 2016 noah

  • Destry

    I don’t think that the case. We are seeing way more tears of the UCL. Some analysts and coaches believe its because this generation of pitchers came up with radar guns, and if they weren’t hitting their desired velocity, they reach back for more and put more wear and tear on the arm. Also, 5’11” kids are throwing 95-100 now. It used to be Nolan Ryan, Randy Johnson and that was about the extent of it. Now you have 2 or 3 guys on each staff that DON”T throw 95. To much strain on the ligament.

  • billpulsipher

    well at least the Mets will continue to spend money and put a winning product on the field. They wont let this injury ruin their plans..one thing they have shown is they are committed to winning no matter what the cost…oh wait, thats the dodgers, yankees, nationals, braves, red sox, giants, tigers, angels, rangers, cardinals…not the mets…..so this injury will officially destroy sandy and his stupid useless plan which i called out as garbage 6 months ago..you dont base your entire franchise on a few young pitchers…GENERATION K

  • willywater88

    I remember the SNY crew discussing this. Regardless of whether there has been an increase or not, MLB should conduct an in depth study to at least determine the causes.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Here we go again.

  • Destry

    Man, I hope you get all your negativity out on this site. Really hope you’re not like this about every subject

  • Hbkslick1016

    No, not really this isn’t 2010 when Mejia was the only pitching prospect. We actually have a ton of other options, like you know, a real organization would have, to replace NS if he goes down for an extended period of time.

  • billpulsipher

    yeah you’re right. i am sure they will be a 100 win dynamo next year..you’re top 2 pitchers already blew their arm out lol

  • It’s true…there’s no such thing as a pitching prospect.

  • Destry

    Mets starters have a 3.96 ERA 11th of 15 NL teams

    The bullpen has actually been better than the starting pitching. 8th in NL

  • Hbkslick1016

    No we won’t win 100 bc we don’t have offense, but I bet our pitching staff’s ERA will be just fine with Harvey, Wheeler, Gee, Niese, Montero, deGrom et all.

  • billpulsipher

    Niese with the partially torn labrum, Gee who is injured nonstop, Harvey coming off TJ, Wheeler who I am sure at some point will get hurt….yeah very durable

  • Destry

    That’s OK. The Dodgers have a $230 million payroll, and they look like they may or may not be a wild card team.

  • Joe

    Am I the only one surprised Wheeler hasn’t had TJ surgery yet? He has a hammer curveball

  • Destry

    They are

  • Hbkslick1016

    Yeah you’re right, we should spend instead, because players who make millions don’t get hurt either.

  • willymayshayes

    Montero, Degrom rookies. Wheeler almost the same. Lets just relax.

  • Destry

    I read somewhere that it is thought that the slider actually does more damage than any other pitch on the arm. Greinke basically only throws his slider when he absolutely has to now.

  • Destry

    What were his goals as GM? Maybe goal number one was to get payroll in the low $80 million range will building a depleted farm system.

  • NewYorkMammoths

    . . . and I’m all out of opinions!

  • Destry

    Gee is injured non stop huh? You mean the guy who made 32 starts and pitched 199 innings way back in 2013?

  • metsman

    Fap fap fap!!!

  • Destry

    Hows that Kershaw contract working out? You’re right Bill. We should have more Johan Santana contracts on the books.

  • Destry

    We’re not the only organization with a few pitching prospects, and considering we play in a stadium that makes scoring tough, our pitching hasn’t performed nearly as well as we give it credit for as compared to other teams.

  • Saw an article where Grienke blatantly said that. If I’m a parent or pitching coach, I’d scrap the slider from every kid or pitcher ever.

  • Waz0787

    The dickey trade looks horrible for us. Fool. Shelled out 20 mil to PED user and 41 years old bum. Dickey looks brilliant at 12 mil per year. Face it he has failed us.

  • Nemo22

    Won’t put a great team together because they didn’t have Harvey.
    Won’t put a great team together because they now don’t have Syndergaard.
    Great Master Plan

  • billpulsipher

    wait for it……..

  • billpulsipher

    Alderson is a moron and a failure…Just look at Duda at 1st base..his grand prize to all the fans…this idiot has had a love affair with Duda for 3 years and the guy is a complete bum…chris young has been a disaster…toronto is laughing at this fool with the dickey trade…he dumps Ike for nothing….he’s a joke

  • EzRider

    Fastball(up, down, in and out)/Curveball/Change. Thats the way to go.

  • billpulsipher

    Kershaw the guy who pitched a shutout in Philly the other day? workin just fine

  • billpulsipher

    the guy who missed most of 2012 and is now gonna miss 2 months or more

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    I think we’re seeing them because now, we can see them. 30 years ago you didn’t have MRI’s.

    A lot of these ops are done on partial tears, like Harvey’s, that guys in the past probably took a dozen aspirin for and tried to tough it out. Bet if you MRI’d retired pitchers today you’d find dozens of undiagnosed tears.

  • Mikey

    And many of us forewarned the masses about putting too much hope in Kid Pitching that had yet to prove itself….
    Cause most of us lived through Generation K and the worst team money could buy that was bought to try and make the Hype come true!

  • Mikey

    For the record JoeD didn’t call it a flexor pronator strain, Sandy did who probably knows even less than Joe or You what that actually means….
    He simply read it off a paper handed to him.

  • Waz0787

    They’re in first place.. We are in last. Another 4th place finish

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    Don’t bother, Destry. This guy’s all happy and excited about this news, and nothing’s going to change that.

  • Exactly.

  • Joey D.

    This is scary because of all the young arms we’ve been seeing prone to serious injury due to what many say are certain ways they are being taught to pitch today.

    Yes, Noah is a power pitcher and we have to worry about that but were there other signs in his delivery or motion that showed there was more potential for damage that the Jays might have seen – like the Giants were concerned with Wheeler? Or was he being taught to throw too many curve balls and straining his elbow.

    You see, for all the faults I’ve brought out about Sandy Alderson being a business person and having a superficial understanding of the game relying on metrics and enforcing such a systematic approach throughout the system and with those he hires, one cannot get down on him for this one if it becomes just a bad break – which is different if Thor proved to be a bust in the majors and one could again point out his flawed thinking – or simply cost savings mesures which are more for the owners than the team – for not trading established players for other proven, established players instead.

    So were there signs that this could happen beyond the normal risks associated with any young flame thrower?

  • Destry

    I actually use to throw at lot of curveballs, and I ended up with rotator cuff tear. I think the slider does damage on the elbow and the curveball on the shoulder. If I was a pitching coach, I would teach, 4 seam FB, 2 seam, CH, splitter

  • Destry

    Ha. You are such a one minute willie. How the shoulder? Hows the back issue? How many runs did he give up in the start before Philly? How is last 5 years of that contract gonna look?

  • Destry

    You mean 40% of 2012, and he’s missed 2 starts so far, less the your $225 million lefty with a chronic shoulder issue, and a similar ERA over the last year and a half

  • TheMets philosophy

    I wish i didnt always have to “Hope” with the Mets

  • Destry

    Pitching wins every championship Metsie, just not always the same team

  • Destry

    Yeah, you’re right. I though you were talking more recent history.

  • calamityfrancis

    who cares, this is a lost season anyway. just like the the last year, and the year before that, and the year before that…

  • calamityfrancis

    you cannot be serious. that trade was an all time heist.

  • ColoradoMetsFan

    Dillon Gee is the last guy to bash. All injuries are serious, but coming back from a blood clot, which is actually scary from a life perspective, shows how tough he really is…

  • TruthOverLies

    This is why it’s IDIOTIC to depend on minor leaguers to build your team through. You trade them for established stars.

  • TruthOverLies

    Been known for years by those of us who have thrown that pitch. It’s murder on the arm. Anyone who has pitched knows how tough that pitch is on the elbow.

    And look no further than the over-usage of the the slider thrown at 90mph (insanity) as the reason why TJ surgery is on the rise.

  • TruthOverLies

    Until Noah wins some games, this trade looks like a failure. It’s only a heist to idiots who think it’s important to win games in the minor leagues

  • calamityfrancis

    i’m glad you are not our gm. anyone with half a brain makes that trades 100 out of 100 times.

  • TruthOverLies

    Only an idiot thinks winning teams are built mostly through the minors. It’s moronic actually, especially since the Yankees play across the river in the Bronx. Their whole existence is based on their free agent and trade acquisitions

  • TruthOverLies

    And 99 out of 100 times it fails, azzwad

  • NYM86

    Time to tune out of the season for good. If the ownership, the front office and the coaching staff aren’t going to care about winning there’s no point in wasting my time & energy watching these bums. Don’t watch, don’t go, f the Wilpons, f Alderson and let it get so embarrassing TC is used as their scape goat. Then we have to hope Saul is hell bent on selling (after subsidizing a full summer of 5k attendances) screwing the Wilpons and then new ownership ousts Alderson.

  • calamityfrancis

    and dickey has been awesome since he was traded, right?

  • Sylow59

    Fortunately there’s the liquor.

  • BehindTheBag

    And this post is why it’s IDIOTIC to listen to bloggers about how to build your team.

  • BehindTheBag

    Hell, teach them a knuckleball and they can pitch till they’re 45 without ever having to throw a pitch above 85 mph.

  • BehindTheBag

    Boy, this would be depressing if I thought the Mets were going to be competitive during the life of Granderson’s ridiculous contract.

  • Nimmofan25

    Ask the Tigers how pitching lost a championship. It’s the most overrated saying in sports. It’s the most balanced team that wins championships.

  • Nimmofan25

    All I can say is good get it out of the way now. With the epidemic of TJ’s going on pitching is one thing this team has. Chances are with the way things are going it was going to happen. Still it’s not even a guarantee that he will need surgery.

  • Fast Eddie

    Agreed. I also urge pitchers to experiment with various grips to see if they can get any late movement on the heater, I.e., a cutter. In my experience, the ball cuts when it is held a certain way and is thrown at slightly less than maximum velocity.

    Try it, you’ll like it.

    Veloz

  • DrDooby

    Syndergaard is 21. If it’s just some precaution because his arm – LIKE THAT OF PRETTY MUCH EVERY PITCHER AT SOME POINT – flares up, great.
    Worst case, it’s a structural problem and his debut gets delayed to July/ August 2015 – and thus age 22, still younger than Harvey and Wheeler.

    Again, the key is the DEPTH in arms. Right now, barring surgeries, the Mets have 8 SP candidates under contract for 2015. Even if Thor has surgery, that number drops to 7.

  • Peter S

    Amazing that out of Harvey, Wheeler an Thor that Wheeler was the one with the flawed delivery that would lead to injuries. Yet there he is pitching still.

  • Mikey

    Because Pitching never lasts more than a year before you have to start replacing it which makes building a franchise around it foolish!
    Build yourself a good Offense and you can go and get all the pitching you need…
    Like the Yankees did for 20 years!

  • joeythew

    Alderson’s Grand Plan is crumbling all around him.

  • EzRider

    I just think that the act of pitching and throwing will give you a rotator cuff tear. I didn’t pitch and have been dealing with shoulder problems since high school.

    I agree with the the fastballs. All different kinds. The Bartolo way. He, while having poor results right now, looks so free and easy with movement all over the zone. if he had more zip he’d be able to get away with more up in the zone.

    Keep the curve in the back pocket to put’em away. I’d like to see the splitter more.

    Sometimes the pitchers need to just go out there and make stuff up ala David Cone. LoL.

  • TJ is the VD of baseball.

  • agetting

    you do realize that pitchers can have more than 1 TJ surgery…you act like if he has it done now to get it out of the way he won’t need it again

  • KennyandtheMets

    Just a reminder to us die-hard Mets fans: no matter how bad things seem, they can ALWAYS GET WORSE!!
    Let us pray that this is nothing serious. As if that would help. 🙁

  • KennyandtheMets

    Aren’t you a ray of sunshine! Nice job finding a positive outlook on this. Can I meet your pharmacist?

  • KennyandtheMets

    Get it out of the way?! This is major surgery (if it happens) that sets him back at least one year. Not to mention the fact that guys are having it more than once these days.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Maybe it wasn’t so grand??…

  • MattSzat

    because Dickey would have helped them win right?
    They would have lost with or without him. With him, you have a ceiling. Sure TDA hasn’t shown anything yet, but he still has a higher ceiling, same thing with Noah.

    i’d be willing to safely say 99% of GMs make that trade.

  • tlopez57

    I was talking about sandy not you joe!

  • Mike B

    What’s flawed about his delivery? Looks pretty smooth to me. He doesn’t use the exertion Harvey does.

  • TruthOverLies

    And how many games won have the Canadian duo achieved for the Mets since the trade?

    ZERO…..and if Noah eventually has to go under the knife, all that robbery talk is for the birds.

  • MattSzat

    Yeah.
    And if he does he will come back when he is still 22…

    Can’t blame the Mets for a plague of pitching injuries. The human arm just isn’t built to propel something that hard over and over again.

    It’s easy to try to be a Monday-morning quarterback now, but Sandy sold high on Dickey and robbed Toronto.

  • Bobby O

    Puma tweeted the discomfort is more by his hand not his elbow from throwing too many secondary pitches in his last start. Probably his wrist from snapping off too many curves. Noah recently tweeted he’s fine. Let’s hope.

  • TruthOverLies

    Dude, stop it. He has not “robbed” anyone as of yet. You know when it becomes “robbery” my friend? When Travis and Noah make the All-Star team.

  • MattSzat

    Both have to make the all star game huh? I applaud your high standards.

    Dickey had one career year, and has been “OK” since. They traded high.

    Travis hasn’t played a full season yet.
    Noah hasn’t pitched an inning in the majors. (He is possibly facing the same injury that’s plaguing EVERY team) and is 21 years old.
    Dickey isn’t getting any younger or better.

    Yet you’re writing off the trade?

    SMH

    You’re probably the same type of person that booed Grandy after 3 weeks of the season, but are nowhere to be found now that he’s had a great May.

  • TruthOverLies

    Here’s how it works. You trade a 1 time All-Star consistently winning pitcher, you need some All-Stars in order to call the trade “robbery”…Minor league accolades mean NOTHING.

  • MattSzat

    Pleae find me your post from the day the trade was made, where you called it would be a “bad trade”
    Not only are you trying to be a monday-morning quarterback, but you’re doing it while tossing out the careers of two players that have a combined half year in the majors. Not only is it comical, it’s sad. This team has enough to be upset over, as a fan. Complaining about the Dickey trade still is being pessimistic just to be pessimistic.
    Thor could have TJ today and be 22 when he pitched again.
    The trade was literally a no brainer. Find me one team that doesn’t make that exact trade. Go ahead…I’ll wait.
    I mean Dickey’s 5-4 record and 3.95 ERA on a 1st place team definitely wasn’t worth 2 players that have tremendous upside. If you want to be the ultra-pessimist and give up on TDA after this year, be my guest, you’re entitled. But Thor hasn’t even pitched 1 inning int he majors, and you’re already calling him a bust lol.
    They sold high on Dickey, after he had what we call in baseball a “career year”

  • Nolrog

    What does “essentially fine” mean? Does it mean if more fans show up then they will spend the money for a proper exam?

  • Andrew Herbst

    What does essentially fine mean?

  • igotyourbackman

    Your elbow hurts? Stretch your shoulder.

    ?

  • mr. belvedere

    I’m essentially not concerned then I guess

  • sperry

    I’m essentially going to be worried that his TJ clock is now ticking

  • 3doza33

    I think they are just keeping his innings down and resting him before he is called up in a couple weeks. Didn’t they do the same thing with Wheeler last year? They said he was hurt, he missed a couple starts and then came to NY.. That’s what I’m hoping anyway…

  • jason bay

    You tell us, were there?

  • CyYout

    d’Arnaud’s poor play and continued fragility, Wheeler not progressing, and a Syndergaard injury are the worst things that could have happened in this first half.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Well whoop de damn doo

  • jason bay

    Dickey’s got a 5+ ERA since that trade and the Toronto Fans are going ape **** over it.

    LOL

  • Lotus1209

    He’s fine? Awesome!

    … so TJ surgery in about three weeks sounds about right.

  • jason bay

    Way to back your opinion with real substance Chicharon.

  • everybodysbuddy

    so if he was sent about his elbow, why was he given shoulder exorcises?

  • BarnRat

    It doesn’t hurt when he exercises his shoulder

  • willywater88

    I feel like we heard them say this before. Don’t have much faith in Mets doctors or training staff at the moment.

  • Peter S

    Lol…did terry make the comment?

  • joeythew

    I learned something today – Syndergaard’s elbow is in his shoulder.

  • jason bay

    Yeah he’s been as good as Colon since he went to Toronto.

  • DrDooby

    Mets doctors are actually considered among best in game. Lots of players from other teams go there too.
    Still some prejudice from staff (not doctors) mishandling some injuries several years ago.

  • DrDooby

    Maybe take care of your right arm in general ? And since the body functions together, it’s always smart to strengthen certain parts to avoid overcompensation.

  • Mikey

    I hope these are not the same Doctors who diagnosed Santana as healthy but Lazy and out of shape….

  • MattSzat

    As a Mets fan I NEVER exhale. When it comes to Injuries, they never seen to work out like the team doctors claim they should

  • Captain America

    Love all the chicken little posts even when there is good news

  • DejaVu

    Basically assume that for every young pitcher. Assume it’s inevitable. Hence the old addage…”you can never have enough pitching”

  • DejaVu

    Being essentially fine is like being “mostly dead”

  • DejaVu

    No. Just no.

  • Great news! I saw somewhere mentioned that the discomfort was close to the hand and speculation that it could had been in part to do with him throwing more breaking balls than usual in his last start.