Francesa Rips Alderson, Says He’s Failed Miserably

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Mike Francesa had harsh criticism for Sandy Alderson and Terry Collins who he says have been “God awful” this season.

“Sandy walked into an easy gig for a GM. Everybody knew whatever GM came in would get a free pass running the Mets for their first two years. It was a no-brainer, rebuild and dump salary.”

“He’s made only two signature moves in four years. Two. That’s it. Trading Beltran for Wheeler. and moving the knuckleballer for D’Arnaud and Syndergaard, and guess what? Wheeler is still spinning his wheels, d’Arnaud has a concussion and has yet to show any sign he belongs at this level, and now Syndergaard may be hurt.”

“In four years the Mets have had one moment – Matt Harvey. And neither Terry Collins or Sandy Alderson had anything to do with that moment. Everything else has gone wrong.”

“How can you not build a bullpen in four years? Every single guy Sandy has brought in has been an abysmal failure. All of them. They all sucked. The only relievers they have that are any good are the kids. Especially that Mejia kid and I like Familia.”

“The Mets are drowning in a culture of losing and Sandy has done nothing to help that.”

“I thought Terry Collins was alright as a manger his first three years, but he has been very bad this season. The job is getting to him.”

“Sandy must be dying everytime Chris Young comes to the plate. He has to be. Especially with what Nelson Cruz is doing. That $7 million looks so bad right now.”

“The Mets lineup just by it’s nature is inferior. No matter what team you look at, their lineups are better than anything the Mets have.”

“That hitting approach. The idea that one size fits all is insane. Great hitters are not made they are born.”

“Sandy has failed miserably. He’s failed with the bullpen and he’s failed with the lineup. Has he been given a lot of money to spend, no. But he’s done a bad job with the moves he has made. They haven’t been good. He’s made bad decisions. They have not worked.”

“They don’t have a feel for their city or their fan base anymore, they’ve lost that completely. More than anything else, they don’t expect to be successful.”

More on this later…

MMO

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  • MyasDaddy

    I missed the monologue! Damnit.

  • Jack

    Lol, typical Francesa. Sandy has done a great job improving the farm system, especially with young arms and acquiring good prospects from trading veterans but hasn’t done well regarding big league talent and in the Free Agency. It would help if the Wilpons didn’t function like a small market team.

  • Jimmy Broadway

    Come on Saul….. Now is the time to get out ! Bury these bastards

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    This should be fun…..

  • Alwayzamazin

    hudgens due to be on w/Mike at 3:05.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    The GM needs to do more than build a farm system…he needs to succeed at the Major League level, Alderson has not come close. I do feel bad for Wright who appears was sold a bill of goods, this team is no where close to competing.

  • Alwayzamazin

    Joe D, were you the caller Joe from brooklyn? 🙂

  • Donal

    So, we’re writing off Wheeler, Syndergaard and d’Arnaud off already? Typical

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    Agree that a great deal of the blame goes on Wilpon, no money to spend…

  • CJM

    David was not sold anything. He was bought for 8/$138. No need to feel sorry for him.

  • Monix

    So a complete blowhard who happens to be a Yankees fan is the authority on the Mets. What a joke this blog is turning into.

  • Alwayzamazin

    he was on point today!

  • Nolrog

    Don’t worry. He’ll repeat it about 3 more times during the show.

  • Destry

    I’ll be honest, I’ve had Sandy’s back for the most part, but there isn’t one part of this organization that is doing well right now, and that includes the farm. All the kids are here guys. Wheeler is here. He’s a 4. Flores is here. He’s not a SS, and he may or may not hit. TDA is here, and he’s………injured. Montero is here, and deGrom, but we are gonna have to move some pitching for a bat, and Sandy will mess that up big time. He can only trade for prospects. He can’t do it the other way. Id say Sandy has worn out his welcome.

  • TheMets philosophy

    Hes the biggest voice in the media hes not saying a/t biased hes saying the truth and i am happy he is getting on the mets maybe s/t will be done its pathetic already whats going on

  • MyasDaddy

    He is usually on point whenever he talks about the Mets. Sorry but its true.

  • Destry

    Not writing them off, but none of them are superstars. Neither is FLores

  • Jack

    He took a hometown discount to stay. He should’ve gotten Cano money because their stats are surprisingly very similar.

  • metsfan79

    I normally hate Fatcesa but I love someone putting alderson on blast. Well deserved

  • Jack

    Francesa should’ve ripped Selig and the Wilpons

  • Monix

    Farm system has the best record of all franchises in the game right now. Not everyone is here yet.

  • Alwayzamazin

    neither is wright according to old Freddie boy

  • Jack

    They are still very young and have a lot of potential. Give them another year and we can have this talk later. Very few prospects bust out at once like Harvey did.

  • CJM

    Hahaha. Cano money? No way lol. He was smart to take what he took when he took it. He might’ve been offered less than the Mets ended up paying, after missing significant time to injury for the second time in three years.

  • elsid1986

    I think its safe to say Sandy’s free pass from the NY media has expired.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    The sad thing about the Hometown Discount money for Wright, to the Wilpons we did pay Cano money…

  • TPT

    Mejia and Familia are products of the Minaya regime sorry SA ..and i keep asking so ill ask again ….What trades has SA made to improve the major league roster??

  • Donal

    You don’t watch other teams much, do you. gain, leave the bubble and see what is going on out there.

  • Donal

    Between naps and Diet Coke breaks.

  • CJM

    FWIW the bullpen might turn things around this year. Torres and Dice K are both decent pieces; both brought in by Alderson. We’ll see if Black can come up and be effective. Offense is more concerning, imo. The biggest problem with the bullpen this year has been the reliance on bums like Valverde and Farnsworth. We’ll see what happens and the pen shifts away from those has-beens.

  • Frank Francisco

    Finally someone big in the media attacking Alderson…

    I agree about the bullpen points, but Francessa should have also given credit to Dice-K and Torres who have been great in the pen.

    Other than that though, yeah, its time to stop giving Alderson the free-pass. Time’s up Alderson. You said 2014. It’s 2014. No excuses.

  • Wolfmicky21

    Sound like posts from this site – so, good job to us?

  • CJM

    I’m not sure what this comment means.

  • metsaholic

    I’m not big Fatcessa fan, but I have listened to and agreed with every single word he has said today. It’s the best he’s been since the days of Russo. He is killing Alderson and he’s pretty much said hitting coaches do nothing. And he has Hudgens on at three today! He’s backing the fans up with every word he’s said today! It’s not the coaches, it’s the talent and that’s on Alderson!

  • TPT

    selig and the Wilpons have not a thing to do with SAs pathetic judgement of talent …Valverde.. CY.. Farnsworth.. Marcum..etc. etc.. etc..

  • gameball

    I have no tolerance for a guy like Francessa or some of the posters on blogs who sit around waiting for things to go wrong so that they can whine about moves that were made 2-3 years ago. Fact is the jury’s still out on both moves and will be for a long time.

    Anyone who didn’t speak up and say D’Arnaud + Syndergaard for Dickey, or Zach Wheeler for 2 months of Beltran was a crap move back when it first happened can just sit down and stop pretending they have some special knowledge if it doesn’t pan out. Francessa doesn’t know which end of the bat to hold.

    And that goes for fans who complain about EVERYTHING, so that they can claim prescience for all the bad stuff, but still celebrate along with the winners if it all goes right.

  • Jack

    These were their career stats before the 2014 season.

    Wright, 8 years, 138 mil – Turned 31 in December

    Cano, 10 year, 240 mil – Turned 31 in October

    ROBINSON CANO:

    AB’s – 5,336
    PA’s – 5,791
    BA – .309
    OBP – .355
    HR – 204
    RBI – 822
    SLG – 504
    OPS – .860
    OPS+ – 125
    Hits – 1,649
    2B – 375
    3B – 28
    BB – 350
    K – 689
    SB – 38/56

    DAVID WRIGHT:

    AB’s – 5,172
    PA’s – 5,945
    BA – .301
    OBP – .382
    HR – 222
    RBI – 876
    SLG – .506
    OPS – .888
    OPS+ – 137
    Hits – 1,558
    2B – 345
    3B – 25
    BB – 671
    K – 1088
    SB – 183/240

  • Frank Francisco

    Farm system W-L records are meaningless. The majority of every team is a non-prospect. For example, you have Alan Dykstra, Taylor Teagarden, and Andrew Brown carrying Las Vegas’ offense with 4 no-name Starting pitchers.

  • Frank Francisco

    Say what you want about Francessa but his points are correct.

  • Flatbush0460

    Wilpons don’t get their hands dirty with player moves, it’s SAs job. Francessa is a blowhard, but he is 100% right here. The ONLY thing that fixes the Mets here is a complete teardown of management. Sandy, the triad of lieutenants, and first and foremost, Collins. Wally runs the team on the field, and we find a young, hungry, smart GM. Anything less than that is business as usual, and that sucks recently. I don’t care how much money SA has saved ownership. His player evaluation skills suck and all he can make is the layups. We need better than that, right now, not in future. We’re at at the point of critical mass, and the meltdown is coming. It’s always darkest before the dawn, and it is dark as hell right now in Flushing

  • Frank Francisco

    Who wrote them off…?

    I hate comments like this.

  • Monix

    Would you rather we were losing like we always did in the past? I”m not caring about Triple A but the low minors success is helpful. You have to learn how to win.

  • EzRider

    Wheeler, Thor and d’Arnaud. They just haven’t done it. Trading Ike was to improve the ML roster by anointing Duder as the man at 1B. He traded Byrd for Black who was supposed to be a closer in waiting and/or set-up stud.

  • Monix

    Yea because another GM w/ the same ownership will surely work well.

  • Peter S

    Cruz and Abreu vs Grandy and Young…this is why I have no faith in this front office. Even when given money to spend, this team makes the wrong moves.

  • CJM

    Another fact of the matter is that, at the time of those trades, anyone who spoke up saying the trades were bad was just flat-out wrong. And anyone who says the trades were poor today is still wrong. Both trades were no-brainers, regardless of how the prospects pan out. Alderson traded an old right fielder who was still good, but was not going to re-sign with the Mets and whom they could not offer arbitration to and a 37/38 year old knuckle baller who was bound for regression. He got top prospects back for both. No-brainers. You make those trades every single time. They were good, flat out.

  • Flatbush0460

    He may be, but he’s a blowhard with the right take in this instance. Give the man credit for calling a spade a spade in this case.

  • Wolfmicky21

    Agreed. There is a very short list of things I wouldn’t agree to if offered $138m. If you said I couldn’t win a World Series, I’d be OK with that.

  • TPT

    the question is what trades has he made to improve the major league roster not what trades has he made that havent panned out lol…and not add to the roster but improve it?

  • Flatbush0460

    Not at all. But are they being set up to succeed? With a supporting cast? In a winning environment? With a club moving towards a common goal? With proper coaching at the most difficult and challenging level? Hell no I say!

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    Can’t argue that, these were GREAT trades. The issue is that we needed to rely on these kids too soon, the Wilpons don’t have the money to have ML talent around them to alleviate the pressure. DW / Murphy and Lagares are the only stable pieces in the lineup.

  • Monix

    Couldn’t afford Abreu who was unproven. Cruz would never have come here. I hate CY but that’s what happens when you shop from the bargain bin. We should’ve been getting Choo and a SS and/or 1B.

  • Metfan9876

    I wanted NO part of Cruz, considering he had just come off a suspension and has always had concerning home/road splits. However, not signing Abreu was such a mistake. I cannot believe they didnmt sign him and end the first base dilemma right then and there.

  • Mike B

    I have a problem with the bullpen. It’s been years of this. Where are guys like Darren Oliver(who they let go due to $$$), Feliciano types, guys with decent stuff? I am tired of the washed up reliever looking for another shot. I don’t mind getting guys cheap, like Byrd, but Rick Ankiel was cut from the Astros, and the A’s didn’t want Chris Young. Why do we do that? Valverde, Farnsworth were guys no one wanted. Overall, I am unhappy with the results, most of which were caused by a shaky bullpen, and guys hitting under or near the Mendoza line. Now our pen is better, and with a new hitting instructor, maybe things improve there. But I have hope things will improve greatly. Based on saves/opps, we are the worst in baseball. With Farnsworth and Valverde gone, that helps a lot, addition by subtraction. Our save/opps are 10/19. If it was 14/19, like most teams, we’d be 2 games out of first. SD is 15/16.
    I think TC has to be more assertive, and go with the hot hand. Grandy has to play, but everybody else has to prove their worth every day, unless they’ve already proved it, like Murph, Wright, Lagares. CY has no business playing, certainly not on results. And if a guy is called to bunt in a bunt situation, and he can’t but, pinch hit with deGrom, who bunts like Glavine. Learn to bunt so you can help the team, or be pinch hit for by a pitcher.

  • AlexHZ

    9 blown saves by 7 different pitchers. Collins’ fault as well, valverde and farnsworth didnt help

  • BCleveland3381

    I typically hate Fransesca. The guy is an idiot. But he’s right on. Sandy has failed. I’ve been called a Sandy lover more than once on this site, but I always attest Sandy had to be given a fair opportunity to win, considering the state of the farm system when he got here(it was better than initially thought, we are now seeing), the bad contracts on the books, and the severely declining payroll.

    But that time has passed. Everything he has done as GM has pointed towards 2014 being the year we start competing. Here we are in 2014 and Sandy might have the worst team he’s had since his tenure started. That’s a big problem. Even with Matt Harvey, I don’t see this team being a .500 team. Pathetic offense with a pathetic hitting philosophy. He deserves to go, and I really hope the rest of the media starts to latch onto the idea that Sandy has failed and runs with it.

    He’s also right about TC, the job and the city are getting to him. This entire franchise seems like it’s ready to implode.

  • CJM

    Copy and pasting career stats, which provides little context for what each player might’ve deserved. Ok, nice. BTW, I in no way believe Cano is worth his contract.

  • MattSzat

    “And that goes for fans who complain about EVERYTHING, so that they can claim prescience for all the bad stuff, but still celebrate along with the winners if it all goes right.”
    How i feel exactly.

  • metsjetsfan

    Maybe he reads MMO? 🙂

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I mean, Collins has been bad with the bullpen, but how are blown saves his fault?

  • PessiMets

    None that was his answer. 4 years of nothing but Nimmo is great in 1A!!

  • Jack

    The young arms for the pen are coming up. I think Sandy spent a lot of money on the veteran relief pitchers just to fill a void until the young arms come up.

  • dealingwithidiots

    Plus Cano is a lefty that got to hit half his games with that short porch too.

  • Destry

    Vin Mazzarro has been DFA’d again because Pittsburgh has so much talent in their pen they don’t have a spot for him. THis is your 2nd chance to pick him up Sandy. Don’t blow it again.

  • AlexHZ

    You answered your own question.

  • Monix

    TC is the worst I’ve ever seen at knowing when to take his starter out and what relievers to bring in and when.

  • Charley’s Twin

    He sure has.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    No. How does Collins blow a save? It’s one pitcher asked to get three outs. When he fails, how is that Collins’ fault?

  • Charley’s Twin

    why are you still here?

  • MattSzat

    Devils advocate.
    Whose fault is for letting Collins continually make those poor decisions?

  • Donal

    And you know this because they aren’t MVPs in their first season?

    What if all 3 become reliable starting players?

  • BCleveland3381

    The fact that we pinched pennies with Farnsworth bothered me. He should not have been our closer, but he was ok as a middle reliever. His numbers weren’t terrible. It’s obvious the Mets released him and Quintanilla because of their contracts. Farnsworth was actually pretty good for us before we put him in the closer role.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Again, how does Collins cause blown saves?

    “Here’s a lead. Please get three outs without giving up runs.”

    That’s it. No match ups. No mixing and matching.

    One guy. Three outs.

    How is a blown save Collins’ fault?

  • Destry

    Its tough to use the excuse that all players suck. At some point Terry and Sandy have to look in the mirror

  • metsjetsfan

    Same here. I despise him, but have no qualms with him saying what he said.

  • Chris H

    I don’t hate SA. I actually think he is a pretty smart baseball man. Sure he’s made some bad signings but all gms do but other gms have the ability to fix a mistake of theirs where SA has to be right the 1st time everytime. Sure the 1st 2 years are a pass to shed payroll rebuild the farm but he still has the Wilpons and their financial restraints. It a tough sell

  • Hodges14

    4th year in and 22-28. This team is as bad as the day Alderson took over. That’s the problem.

  • Jack

    Absolutely. Wright would have hit much better if he was on a team with tons of great hitters around him and in a pitchers friendly park.

  • Monix

    Putting the right people in situations to succeed or fail is part of what a manager has to decide.

  • Metfan9876

    Actually, that is not true in regards to the farm system. All of the kids are not here. There are several highly regarded prospects that have been acquired and are in the minor leagues playing very well. For example, Rosario was just promoted to Savannah.

    Anyway, regarding Sandy, he needs to start helping out the major league team. He needs to call up the guys ready to play and he needs to make a trade. The lack of urgency with this organization is seriously frustrating.

  • Donal

    You’re not new around here.

  • CJM

    He has a higher career OPS on the road. No indication that Yankee Stadium significantly helped Cano’s production.

  • Peter S

    Ummm…Abreu is making $68million over 6 years. How much is Grandy making I’ve 4 years? $60million…I think the Mets could have done that deal.

  • Charley’s Twin

    didn’t you hear? Measuring success by wins and losses at the big league level is not the proper way to evaluate a GM’s performance.

  • Hodges14

    Too bad that at the only level that matters they are 22-28.

  • AJF

    Francessa is right but at the same time don’t expect these teams that he rips apart to allow him access to there players and coaches

  • Jack

    These stats just shows that they are very similar players. I agree with you though that Cano isn’t worth his contract.

  • Destry

    Yesterday is a good example. No manager in their right mind would let Valverde go out for the 9th yesterday

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Who are the right people? Parnell going down and Sandy not getting adequate insurance was a big failure.

    Who was the right guy for the job? Which garbage scrap heap signing?

  • Hodges14

    What did he say that was incorrect?

  • AlexHZ

    Because he sets them up to fail. If everyone here can see farnsworth and valverde are super hittable, why is he having them close games? cause they have some experience? They should not have been closing games to begin with. Familia should’ve been groomed starting in ST to be the closer if parnell failed or got injured, its obvious he has the best stuff in the pen by far.

  • MattSzat

    Sandy always said 2014 was the year to compete.
    This team looks like one of the worst during his tenure.
    Everyone keeps pointing to next year, because Harvey is coming back. Even with Harvey this team doesn’t magically become a contender.
    Maybe Wheeler finds himself, maybe for the RARE time a little bit of luck goes our way with Thor (I.E. Niese this spring), But honestly I don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel.
    For the longest time I have been the most optimistic Mets fan. But this entire organization needs an overhaul.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    ..TOO

  • Monix

    OK, you go tell broke ownership to spend 68 million for a Cuban whose never played in the bigs and see how that goes over. Easier said than done. Wilpons had heard of Grandy, much easier to convince them to spend.

  • TPT

    the 2 most promising guys we have in the bullpen are Familia and Mejia and both of those guys are products of Omar …and that says it all ..SA spent the winter bashing Tejada Ike and Duda and we start 2014 with yep you got it Tejada Ike and Duda..he signs CY to be the starting CF over Lagares misjudging the talent of Lagares and every Met fan were up in arms over this during the winter ..he has to go as does TC as does the Wilpons

  • Donal

    Probably could have brought in Abreu.

    I wouldn’t bet on Cruz coming here because Citi Field is where right handed power goes to die.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Familia should have been groomed? No. Sandy should have gotten some insurance for Parnell.

  • Metfan9876

    They are meaningless but there are several of our minor league teams littered wih good talent. For example, you have Nimmo, Smith, Cecchini, Plawecki, Rosario, Molina, Knapp, Morris, Syndergaard, Fulmer, Ynoa, Whalen, Stuart, ect. There are several interesting names in our minor leagues, however, most of them are simply too far away to help the team this year

  • Peter S

    Lol you sure are changing your tune now. The mets would have been applauded a lot louder for going after Abreu.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    That I agree with, but overall I don’t see how blown saves are always Terry’s fault.

  • AlexHZ

    Im not defending alderson but he did try to sign balfour. im just saying.

  • Monix

    So you think TC handles the pen well? You think he was wise to leave his starter in for 122 pitches yesterday, 26 more than his season high to that point. You think he was wise to use Valverde when he did? You think it was wise to bring in Rice when it was obvious to anyone that the Pirates would pinch hit for Ike.

  • Chris H

    Off topic: Josh Beckett has turned into a pretty good pitcher again and AJ Ellis has been said to have told him to use his curveball more which has helped him a lot. Not only did Ellis not catch his no no during the celebration he stepped on the catchers mask and sprained his ankle and is on the DL now. Man that sucks

  • dave27a

    I like how people keep throwing in Dice-K as something Sandy should get credit for. They gave Dice-K a shot last year and he pitched well, then they ignored him. Then they brought him back at the 11th hour to provide competition for the 5th rotation spot, which he frankly should have won since there were always concerns about how deep into games Mejia could go, esp. in April. Then they shove him into a relief role he’s completely unaccustomed to and luck out because with some focus and work ethic he’s making it work. All the while he’d be a better 5th starter option than Colon at a fraction of the price. He’s in his early 30s and finally healthy again – this guy was lights out in 07 and 08 for the Sox. Good talent evaluators, having seen him up close, would have pegged him for a legitimate role and got a steal.

    Even when something works out for this crew, it’s by accident. Our two best relievers right now spent March battling for a 5th rotation spot now being filled by two legitimate starting prospects who we desperately wanted to sneak past the Super 2 deadline. And on and on and on. Just complete and total cluelessness.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, well, this isn’t horse shoes or hand grenades.

  • Destry

    but we don’t have any impact prospects, its no better than any other teams average farm system

  • Mike B

    That’s true, not after his 8th.

  • Jack

    I agree. He is a horrible in game manager. I know he doesn’t have much to work with but still he should know better and do whatever it takes to win, which is playing your best pitchers. I don’t care if Valverde is your so called closer. He gave up the tying run in the 8th inning but continued to pitch in the 9th. Makes no sense.

  • Waz0787

    Mets sucks.

  • SouthlandMetsFan

    I think Francesca is a giant douche, but he’s pretty spot on here.

    The Cruz thing is ridiculous though. The guy is playing in a bandbox. Does anybody honestly think he would have anywhere near 16 homeruns right now if he signed with the Mets?

  • Destry

    Then we need impact players at 5 other positions

  • Mike B

    And, while Cruz settled for like $8 million, he turned down $14 milion earlier. No one knew he’d settle for that.

  • MyasDaddy

    The Wilpons most surely have something to do with it. Instead, we are picking bargain players instead of players who can truly help this team.

  • dave27a

    One of our relievers (blanking on who) hurt himself during the celebration after Santana’s no-no. As with all embarrassing moves…been there, done that.

  • Peter S

    Not for nothing but did we all forget that Sandy relied upon Parnell to come in and be a closer this year. He was injured for half the year. How do you not have a backup plan?

  • AJF

    Don’t forget it is throw back concert days ahead with 50 cent playing on June 14th

  • Charley’s Twin

    it was Ramon Ramirez I believe.

  • Jack

    Yep, He is throwing out the first pitch tonight. Hopefully he can play 1B or Shortstop or the Corner OF or Catcher.

  • dave27a

    Who cares? Not him. He gets better ratings from Mets fans who want to hear someone voice their frustration than he would by fielding muted interviews with team employees.

  • SouthlandMetsFan

    I think Francesca is a giant windbag, but he’s pretty spot on here.

    The Cruz thing is ridiculous though. The guy is playing in a bandbox. Does anybody honestly think he would have anywhere near 16 homeruns right now if he signed with the Mets?

  • TPT

    spot on

  • Matt Mosher

    Bravo, Mike.

  • Charley’s Twin

    what a lovely family friendly entertainer to bring to the ballpark! I hate the Wilpons so, so much.

  • CJM

    No they don’t do that, exactly. The majority of Wright’s comparable counting stats occurred earlier in the year. Although I don’t think his bat was as bad as many people think, because Citi Field has obviously had a negative effect, he has still shown regression. That regression, imo, is most evident in his 2011 and 2013 seasons, when he suffered a back and a hamstring injury respectively, missing significant time both years. Those are injuries that show that his age is starting to take effect. Cano’s bill of health is much more promising; it raises fewer questions about the wisdom of a long-term deal. Let’s face it, the end of Wright’s contract is going to be very ugly. He is already slowing down. He’s overpaid as it is. It might seem like he took a hometown discount, but in reality, he made the safe decision. There is absolutely no guarantee that he’d have seen more money by testing free agency after 2013. In hindsight, he’s probably very happy with the decision, considering the injury he suffered last year.

  • Mike B

    I fault SA on the pen, but the young starters? Fantastic. If we stop the pen bleeding and convert 70% of saves, so instead of 10/19, it’s 14/19, we should be a lot better. And maybe this hitting coach helps, esp with TDA and Duda. CY is toast. If he continues to play, I’m for firing TC.

  • Metfan9876

    This is not an average system, so I’m not sure where you’re getting that notion from. They’ve promoted deGrom, Montero, Flores, d’Arnaud, Wheeler, Harvey, Black and soon to be Syndergaard in the past 2 years. And when you consider the guys that will/have been promoted this year, it’a pretty tough for a farm system to just produce more major league players immediately after.

  • Frank Francisco

    I agree that the farm system has improved, but W-L record isn’t a good way to evaluate a system.

  • dave27a

    Would be his number one failure if Tejada and Duda were not still nominal starters on this team.

  • B-Met Fan

    The Pope is a chameleon. He changes his colors, especially when it comes to the Mets, every other day. Last week I listened to his show for a bit, and he was raving about the cadre of young Met pitchers developing in the minors and was telling every caller the Mets were positioned to be one the competing teams in baseball, as early as next season. That didn’t happen in a vacuum. Now he is faulting Sandy Alderson because Travis d’Arnuad has concussion like symptoms when he got beaned in the head by a bat on a back swing. You have to be kidding me. The Pope changes his positions by his moods, which are more often and not surly. When Evan and Joe criticize the Mets, as real Met fans, I listen. When the Pope spouts off it’s nothing more than hot air.

  • Jack

    So do I. God I hope the new commissioner isn’t Wilpon friendly but knowing Selig he will probably try to support one of his guys so he can run MLB the way he did which was for the owners he liked.

  • Hodges14

    We also don’t know who, if any of those names will become a good major league player.

  • Peter S

    Right but he did. And the mets had spent that same money in the 1st week. Thus not giving themselves a chance to grab him. And had they signed Abreu instead of Grandy, they spend the same total dollars this year.

  • Frank Francisco

    No, I’m not.

    Your comment is just putting senseless words into people’s mouths.

  • Hodges14

    What does TDA’s concussion have to do with the Mets record? He wasn’t doing anything when he was healthy.

  • CJM

    He’d also be the worst defensive outfielder in baseball, manning a big outfield for a team built around pitching. It was a good stay-away. Coming into 2014, Cruz and Duda actually had the same exact career OPS+, which takes park factor into account. That’s pretty startling.

  • Flatbush0460

    Then root for the Phillies dude, and get off our blog. We’re Mets fans here. Take a hike

  • Dave Rosenbluth

    It is all about rating and rants get callers and listeners. Simple formula that he has followed for quite a while now.

  • Hodges14

    Chris Young wishes he had signed with Baltimore at this point.

  • Metfan9876

    Thor is fine at the moment. There are no problems that we know of.

  • EzRider

    Well i’m just saying he TRIED. I’m well aware he has FAILED. Trust me, i am in no way a fan of or trying to defend SA. Bringing in somewhat promising minor league talent is something he has done an okay job at, we’ll see, but he has no clue about ML Roster construction nor does he even understand what makes a good ML team.

  • TPT

    let me introduce to the GM OF THE A’s see their payroll? and see that they have won the AL west 2 yrs in a row and this yr there one great team and again in first….its not all about MONEY its about judging talent and SA lacks this one little tidbit

  • Jack

    That’s why long term contracts are definitely risky.

  • dealingwithidiots

    Do you seriously believe that short porch didn’t make a difference? Come on……….

  • Jack

    I know right. Why was Colon brought on a FA contract when you had Dice-K and even Harang, who has fallen back to earth after an incredible start. Lead the Majors in ERA for several weeks in April for the Braves. The Mets should’ve just gone with deGrom and Montero right off the bat.

  • CJM

    I believe Cano is an extremely good hitter everywhere, which the statistics support.

  • prosoundz

    Isn’t that the very essence of the job of being a GM of a major league
    baseball team? Laying out a plan backed up by stats, scouts, proof and
    future projections as well as some charm as to convince the owners to
    spend the money in the correct areas? Had Alderson actually did some
    work, he would’ve invested in some great scouts when he took the helm as
    the first line of business as to not miss out on players like Puig or
    Cespedes or Abreu. Him his cronies and advanced scouts could’ve sat down
    and compared the projections and the numbers. Apparently, they did none
    of the above but go into the Wilpons office and said that Granderson
    was a former Yankee and they would save 8 mil on only a 4 year contract.

  • Metfan9876

    I’m not defending Alderson, but how many Billy Beanes do you think there are? No other GM in baseball can match him.

  • Stupidseasonticketholder

    I’d like Harvey to tweet #sellourmets.

  • Flatbush0460

    Because he didn’t realize or see that Valverde had absolutely nothing left in the tank, and should never have been used in that spot. If he’s on a club, he’s a mop up man at this point

  • Hodges14

    Why is it that in 2012 when Mariano Rivera went down in the beginning of the season, the Yankees were able to compensate for losing the greatest closer ever, but the Mets can’t compensate for losing Bobby Parnell?

  • dave27a

    You can laugh, but if Dice K were starting from April 1 he’d be one of the feel-good stories in baseball right now. You could see all spring he was healthier than he’d been in years and was a potential steal, who at worst could be rounding himself into legit trade bait come July. They’ve been watching him since last August, but all they’ve managed to do is insult his race, give him an undeserved ticket to Vegas, and miscast him as a reliever. All while feeding us Colon and Valverde and Farnsworth. This is who is in charge of our pitching-led revolution?

  • Hodges14

    Sandy’s shortsighted approach was that Valverde and Farnsworth were the insurance for Parnell.

  • Hodges14

    He obviously didn’t try hard enough.

  • metsaholic

    He’s been very consistent. He loves the Mets pitching. It’s the offense he takes exception to. And he rightly blames Sandy Alderson for it! Travis d’Arnaud was the big peace in the Dicky trade. He was the one to make an impact in the offense. 2 years and a couple of injuries latter…nothing! And let’s face it, when he has been playing, he has not been impressing anyone that he’s any kind of major league hitter. Wheeler and Thor can be great or very strong middle of the rotation pitchers, but they are a long why from it. In the mean time, Alderson has not brought in one young impact bat to this team. Everything…everything rest on unproven prospects.

  • dave27a

    Not even. They were dudes looking for work in March.

  • metsaholic

    I wish he had too. But he’d be making a least 1/2 as much.

  • prosoundz

    Exactly. Alderson is lazy and did not do his homework. He did not lay out a plan and go travel to see the kid workout or play. He did not send out enough advanced scouts to watch him either. It seemed as if Alderson had his eye on Granderson cause it was the EASY thing to do. He would plug a hole, give out a 4 year deal instead of a longer term deal and get power from the OF. What he didn’t consider was Granderson’s power came in a bandbox and Citifield is a cavernous place. He overlooked the .220 batting avg because we all know Abreu was UNPROVEN.

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    On the year, he’s hit 9 HRs on the road versus 7 at home. Just saying.

    Edit: Taking it a step further, 14 of Cruz’s HRs this season would have cleared the wall at Citi…2 are right on the wall for what it’s worth so the bandbox has nothing to do with it.

  • Johnny Sparacino
  • dave27a

    That’s great. And plan B was two retreads signed to fill out the locker room in March?

    There were other options after Balfour. Hell there still are. Where were we on Hanrahan? Sure Detroit is a winner, but take some of that $$ you’re not spending elsewhere and make it worth his while to come here.

  • Hodges14

    The way things are going with Young, he will be out of mlb after this season.

  • TPT

    their payroll is 74 million and its the GM who surrounds himself with the best baseball people including the scouting dept..so its Beane yea but a lot more than just him and again SA cannot judge talent and why is it Beane can make trades without needing money and SA cant ?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    That’s one. I don’t think you can make general statements that basically blame every blown save on Terry.

    If we had a single guy capable of doing the job, it would help a lot.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Right

  • CJM

    50 games in. You guys know my thoughts on this year’s team. Look, imo anything under .500 this season is a massive failure for Alderson. A failure in which as a shot-caller, I’d have serious thoughts about moving on, although I might give him the storied 5th year for a “complete rebuild.” This season’s still young. The bullpen and the offense are both on Alderson right now. But I’m still optimistic about this team, although May has been dismal.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I don’t know. Ask Sandy Alderson.

  • metsaholic

    I love it!!!! Bring him in now!! NOW!!!

  • dave27a

    Yes. Which in the end was a positive, but still…

  • dave27a

    But grammar rules.

  • Novito

    Anyone know an app so i can hear wfan? Not in NY & def wanna hear this!

  • prosoundz

    I love when he says “I know where 6-1 but we played like shit”. LOL. What? I thought there record was 0-7 the way Wally was talking. Love it.

  • TPT

    the pope changed colors because after this last weekend just like all of us the Mets showed just how badly they truly suck…period its just not losing but how you lose …and we look pathetic

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, that would go over like a lead balloon.

    That stuff flies in the Independent League. Not the majors.

  • metsaholic

    And that’s why he is not here. He would be in GM’s and owners faces telling them the truth about the crappy talent. Or he would not be able to hold it in and lay it out during a press conference. I don’t care. This organization needs some tough love. Backman is the manager this team needs now.

    P.S. Fire Alderson!

  • HarveyKsYou

    TuneIn is a media like radio app. That’s what I use.

  • mad met

    Not just a matter of the home runs ..he is a hitter …cy sucks ass

  • metsaholic

    With millions in his pocket he found some sucker to pay him. He should be servicing his agent every night for the rest of his live.

  • Charley’s Twin
  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    hitrackeronline

  • Novito

    Thanks bro

  • Metropolitan

    even if taken into account ball park size it translated into half of that it would be a big plus for the Mets ..still

  • Francesa makes a solid point with the bullpen then goes off on verbatim Sandy Hater boilerplate. Nelson Cruz? Sure CY looks like a bad signing but to bring up Cruz as if SA could have had either for 7,000,000 and flipped a coin? Criticizing the Wheeler and TDA trades?
    Easy situation as a GM. Gut payroll and field a contender with a barren farm system. Francesa is such a dope

  • Novito

    Thanks bro appreciate it

  • mad met

    Not a big fransesa fan but he is spot on today. Pretty much summed it . Hope he has the same balls if he can get sandy on an interveiw

  • CyYout

    Backman and his stupid rants would be the rotting cherry on top of this **** sundae of an organization. The only thing Collins has done well is not have a complete emotional breakdown and scream curses and bigoted words at the press. I like Backman’s old school style that would probably go well with a very talented team, but he’s about the worst person to bring in to this cluster**** of a sitaution. Like throwing high octane gasoline on a growing fire. Unless of course, your idea is to burn it all to the ground.

  • Nemo22

    Sounds about right to me. 4 GM’s and they can’ even fix the BP. The few good players were signed by Omar. Coming into this year I wanted Beltran, Byrd, Peralta, Kazmir, Hawkins. At least that had promise. Oh and Waly Backman.
    Sandy needs to learn to be good GM from Billy Beane now.

  • TPT

    hahaha wow but theres no way SA would have Wally up here he’d be too scared of him for not providing talent

  • Hodges14

    It’s very easy to criticize Alderson. Just use the w/l record. We’re 4 years into his “rebuilding plan” and the team is 22-28 and going nowhere.

  • seldomused

    First time I think I’ve ever agreed with Francesa, but at the same time he shouldn’t write off the Beltran and Dickey trades because Wheeler is still finding his footing in the majors (isn’t an ace yet) and d’Arnaud / Syndergaard are hurt.

  • Metropolitan

    BTW 8 home runs would be team leading on the Mets

  • goorru

    He can’t they won’t come on anymore since they left the station.

  • AJF

    This is why Francessa now rips apart the Mets front office and manager

    Michael Kay Show YESVerified account
    ‏@TMKSonYES

    @Mets fans, you will want to put on @YESNetwork today at 3:30pm for Dave Hudgens (former hitting coach) and 4pm @MetsGM

  • Charley’s Twin

    It’s his fourth year. They told us time after time that 2014 was the year.

  • TPT

    am i mistaken or is more than 1/2 the roster Wallys boys from the minors?? and theres a reason they made up here soooo? the problem isnt with his style and the players the problem is with his style and our owner and GM

  • goorru

    radio.com app

  • jessepmmo

    Hudgens is on with Mike first at 3:05 tho…

  • AJF

    Hudgens is no longer on the Mets

  • dealingwithidiots

    Don’t think anyone is arguing that. However, you can’t disregard his at home advantage. You say the statistics support he’s a good hitter, same statistics prove Wright just as good.

  • Even that superficial, context ignoring critique wouldve been better than the lol Cruz crap

  • CyYout

    Every player in the majors went through Double A at some point.

  • MyasDaddy

    F- Michael Kay. He is the biggest loser of them all.

  • BCleveland3381

    For all of us that want Terry Collins fired, if you’re Sandy, why would you? As soon as TC is gone, Sandy’s head is next on the chopping block with the full force of the fanbase. He already has plenty of people wanting him fired, but TC takes some of the heat off him. If Terry isn’t there, it’s all on Sandy. We’re stuck with Collins for awhile.

  • AJF

    I agree I pick Francessa over him to listen to

  • Another thing Francesa could’ve mentioned but didn’t. Francesa is still a dope. The fact that you agree that SA is worse than Hitler doesn’t make Francesa less of a dope

  • mad met

    Love the attitude. Gotta easy up on the cursing a bit. But gotta love the idea of being 6-1 and still pissed off u lost a game u should win. Where is that bravado on our mets

  • metsaholic

    Sandy does not have a contract after this year. My guess is that he is gone anyway.

  • CJM

    Except Wright has shown more signs of regression, which will come for both of them. In a situation in which I would need to choose one or the other, I choose Cano. He is better right now. I would not offer either of them their respective contracts. They are both overpaid because long-term contracts to players in their 30s are dumb.

  • metsaholic

    Yes, but he is on today’s show at 3.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Ha I didn’t say that! Come on man. He is getting criticized for four years of dismal performance. He’s not the only reason things have gone wrong but that doesn’t make him a sacred cow.

  • SouthlandMetsFan

    Oh, I’m not saying he wouldn’t be an upgrade over Grandy or Young! I’m just pointing out that it’s kinda silly to assume he would be putting up crazy numbers like that with the Mets.

  • SouthlandMetsFan

    I’m sure he would be leading our team in dingers.

    But it would be with like 8 instead of 16.

  • seldomused

    Abreu also has a lingering ankle injury that’s apparently been issue from before his signing.

  • Bobby O

    Of course Francesca is paid to be controversial but I think he’s spot on here. If things continue along these lines this season, I think the Wilpons are going to delete both Sandy and Terry after this season, with maybe Terry before then.

  • TPT

    not every major leaguer went through AA with Wally as mgr though CY EY etc but a lot the current roster has

  • dave27a

    No question. Under the “I don’t need this crap” corollary.

  • seldomused

    Any GM who chooses to keep a broken piece to preserve his own job is going to be fired eventually anyway. Why not make the right move for the team and take accountability for your decisions.

  • BCleveland3381

    Right, so since he’s gone anyway, why take all the heat?

  • BCleveland3381

    When has Sandy ever taken accountability for any of his decisions?

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    I’m really curious why Hudgens is doing this interview with Francessa at 3. I’m guessing he’s going to defend Sandy and the Mets’ hitting approach, and maybe hit back at his critics. But he’s out of a job with the team (supposedly) and Francessa is killing the Mets, so what does he have to gain? Maybe Sandy is going to give him another position somewhere in the org, and this is the last bit of dirty work.

  • Hodges14

    It’s major league baseball. Wins are the only thing that matters.

  • dave27a

    Sounds like he acknowledged them as strong moves, just pointed out that they’ve yet to bear much fruit. No one in their right mind will ever question the return they got for those two no matter what happens. hindsight is 20-20, but these were 3 premiere prospects coming back (4 if you count Herrera, acquired in part for Buck who came in the Dickey deal).

  • Chris H

    Keith stick to your guns in the booth tonight and keep firing I got your back lol

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    They DONT expect to be successful. Hudgens on his way out, “it’s not like we were last in everything.” Pretty high standard there – not last in everything.

  • dealingwithidiots

    Please be specific, what regression has Wright shown and what has Cano shown to make you more confident in him? Every MLB player is overpaid.

  • dave27a

    Gee, we really showed them. I’m sure when they are counting the massive influx of cash coming from the increased ad revenue the Yankees are bringing in they are crushed that they can’t talk to the staff of a .400 baseball team.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I’m glad Francesa spoke the truth about our struggles.

  • Bobby O

    I think it was said that Hudgens was going to be reassigned in the org. even though Warthen is or was the only coach signed past this season.

  • Hehe hyperbole for effect. There are plenty of legit reasons to criticize SA (though personally I think most decisions are at least partially impacted by ownership constraints). Francesa just picks stupid ones

  • dave27a

    The appearance fee. We’re talking about Dave Hudgens. It’s not like he can show up at a memorabilia show in Oakland and earn $50 a signature for this 7 at-bats for the A’s in 1983.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Haha, agreed that the vast majority of the problem is the Wilpons.

  • Al Hirschen

    Wally will never get the MGR job…. No MLB team has called asking for Wally and he is not close to Sandy. The baseball world knows that Wally is a time bomb. This is 2014 not 86 . Wally talks to much and press will push him into saying something.

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    It’s interesting, after Lagares gate more than a week ago, the broadcast crew took it a little easier on the club, TC got real testy and now Hudgens has been fired. Hudgens and Sandy doing a radio tour today to put out the flames. AND the team hired a new Director of Communications. Did Jeff wake up all of a sudden or what?

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    True because he probably would have been on the DL at least once.

  • That depends entirely on the question being asked

  • Jgreen

    I am actually surprise that media cares about this team.

  • Joey D.

    HI Dave,
    Just playing devils advocate and nothing more (because everyone knows my feelings about Sandy and I want to be fair) – could there have been young players who were already showing signs of establishing themselves in the majors that the Mets could have sought after instead?
    Also, I think Mike was re-affirming what the Sporting News said a few days back – that more moves had to be made beyond that of just acquiring three top prospects for a Cy Young Award Winner and all-star outfielder.

  • Charley’s Twin

    post Memorial day, the media lowers their standards.

  • dave27a

    He’s paid to talk about the New York sports landscape. The fact that one of the signature franchises in this city is rotting from both sides is certainly relevant to the New york sports landscape.

    He also doesn’t understand hockey, which is probably what he should be talking about.

  • metsaholic

    Firing Hudgens isn’t fooling anyone. We all know this is on the owners and Sandy. Sandy has failed! He goes now, or he goes later. I for one hope the sooner the better.

  • dave27a

    Accountability left this organization with Doubleday.

  • Charley’s Twin

    god, i miss him

  • Metfan9876

    Beltran and Byrd would have made absolutely no sense. The other three, though, are all moves that should have been made.

  • CJM

    Wright missed significant time two of the last three seasons. Cano has been very healthy. Regression isn’t just about the bat–it’s also about the ability to stay on the field.

  • dave27a

    Hindsight is the most valuable tool for the Devil’s Advocate!

    He fleeced those teams. Anyway who were we talking about as an alternative from SF? Gary Brown, that’s who. He’s still in AAA, hitting .264 in the PCL.

    Who were we talking about with Toronto? Anthony Gose. He’s got a .245 average in nearly 400 Major League ABs.

    Now did MORE moves need to be made than just these two? Absolutely. Again the guy has made two trades for major league players in his tenure: Pagan for Torres/Ramirez, which was a complete and total disaster, and EY Jr. for McHugh, which was a swap of spare parts. That’s an abomination.

  • Wolfmicky21

    Not sure that act will play well at the national level in 2014. The days of that type of coach are gone, unfortunately

  • Charley’s Twin

    too funny

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    “Guys taking pitches down the middle” That’s not what it’s all about according to Hudgens re: the hitting philosophy.

    There is a disconnect somewhere then because these batters continually look at strikes and fall behind 0-2. I can’t say this is necessarily on Hudgens, but what gives then? They aren’t getting through to the players and the players aren’t executing.

    Better talent is needed, yes, but it’s like pulling teeth getting these hitters to be effectively and intelligently aggressive at the plate.

  • BCleveland3381

    Kay is absolutely killing Sandy right now.

  • jason bay

    That doesn’t take into effect the wind which is different from park to park which is the biggest reason why Citi plays as large as it does.

  • dave27a

    If the media cared about this team they’d have flushed the skeletons in the Wilpon and Selig closets out years ago.

    The media have toppled Presidential administrations in this country, but we can’t get some clueless old miser and his idiot son out of an owner’s suite.

  • CJM

    I want Francesa to ask Hudgens to opine about the condition of the organization, and what he thinks the biggest failure in the organization is.

  • dave27a

    Let’s not make him out to be a saint. He was mostly absentee – he just poked his head in once in a while when Fred was too stupid for his own good (like pledging allegiance to Todd Hundley and almost whiffing on Piazza).

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    Hudgens on situational hitting: Team looked into it in meetings. Swing and miss rate up at home, fly ball rate up at home, bat speed down at home…players trying too hard. Doing too much, overswinging.

    Come on, that’s like when someone goes to the doctor and the doctor diagnoses anxiety as the cause of ailments because they can’t find anything else wrong. The players suck.

  • peterfonda

    I heard that rant. I detest Francesa but he was spot on in his criticism.

  • Joey D.

    OK, two things he said which Francesa did not follow up on.
    1) “not to swing at balls and to take a walk”
    – Did not talk about not swinging at STRIKES on the corners.
    2) Old school swinging at anything like pitches in the dirt.
    – Again, what about those first pitches on the corners that they were not swinging at.
    Remember the point about hunting one’s pitch according to Mike Epstein and confirmed by some here at MMO that it has to do more with TIMING than LOCATION.
    But more important, Hudgens was allowed to make those two comments without being challenged on pitches that are in the strike zone which is what the complaints have been about – including Keith.

  • Charley’s Twin

    It’s all relative, right?

  • TPT

    thats fine but when is it time to trade some prospects for major league talent and compete for a NL east 1ST PLACE FINISH? when is it time to say its about today? or do we continually add prospects that only a handful pan out and we wait year after year and live as Mets fans only for tomorrows as weve done the last 4 years? when do see a trade that improves the major league roster and not the AA roster? under SA its only been a Merry go round that never stops .a .time has comes to see results after 4yrs the time has come and gone because this year he promised was the year and he not only didnt deliver he actually might have made us worse. when he actually adds some ML TALENT TO THIS TEAM THEN ILL CUT HIM SOME SLACK

  • dave27a

    Indeed. The worst thing that ever happened to us was him bailing when Fred insisted on involving his moron son.

  • Joey D.

    And all he refers to is the statistics….

  • Metfan9876

    I don’t know. This organization just seems content with losing and they lack the urgency to make a move or a big splash.

  • Hodges14

    Very true. I’m curious if the Mets have looked at all into ways to block the wind coming into the stadium.

  • Metropolitan

    That debacle against the Pirates is the straw that broke the camels back,Mets are getting hammered everywhere.

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    Hudgens: “In the big leagues, you need to have to stars to win,” after referencing how he used to have Beltran, Pagan and Reyes when he got here.

  • TPT

    deservedly so

  • Joey D.

    I caught that. What was that about Sandy having inherited a bad team?

  • Jack

    Why can’t Wilpon just do the right thing and sell the team for the fans sake!!!! Goodness…

  • Charley’s Twin

    Then he ruined it by declaring “maybe Duda will be that guy”

  • HawkZon

    Right on.

  • jessepmmo

    I’m trying to figure out if you are calling Angel Pagan a star or if Hudgens did

  • Jack

    I was listening to Michael Kay and he said if you are going to rebuild you completely rebuild. That’s trading David Wright and should have been Jose Reyes. It was so stupid that Sandy traded Pagan. I loved Pagan.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Charley,
    He added d’Arnaud to that – OK, it’s too early to judge Travis.
    But did you notice he said he did not want his batters going to the plate “thinking” but acting on instinct? Then what is this about working a pitch count?

  • HawkZon

    I don’t listen to that station, what is he saying?

  • BCleveland3381

    He’s right. But Jeff needs to make money and Wright is the most marketable player they have(outside of Harvey).

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    Rich men and their property rights. Far more important than the welfare of our country.

  • Joey D.

    Pagan a 2012 All Star and was a dependable bat with speed.

  • Jack

    And he is the franchise player and I guess he was hoping to have Wright get some fans to the game. God I hate the Wilpons so much. It’s all Selig’s fault. Selig should’ve put his friendship aside with them and do what is best for the fans.

  • Jack

    And a very clutch player.

  • Alwayzamazin

    and cute

  • BCleveland3381

    They are still screaming about it. 25 minutes straight of Met killing. Sandy has no idea what he’s doing. Mets are too worried about what their broadcasters are doing. They are actually defending Terry a bit, asking what is he supposed to do with this awful team. Basically they are ripping Sandy, Duda, Chris Young, Tejada, the entire bullpen. Hudgens is coming on now and Sandy is coming on at 4.

  • Jack

    Haha, I guess that too. I don’t know cause I’m a guy so haha

  • Alwayzamazin

    lol

  • jaypayton

    Sandyis an idiot and now everyone is realizing what a disaster he has been

  • Jack

    Haha!

  • mets4lyfe

    I really don’t understand why people like kay and other members of the media think that Collins is a good manager. It baffles me.

  • Jack

    I love the Michael Kay show!

  • goorru

    San Diego thanks you for taking Alderson away from them.

  • Alwayzamazin

    keith has CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM Dave, what a wuss you are!!

  • BCleveland3381

    Payroll is still our biggest problem. Imagine how much better this team would be with Nelson Cruz, Drew, and Morales on it. All 3 of them would have bumped our payroll up to about 120-125 million dollars, which is a respectable but not ridiculous amount. Add a couple of bullpen pieces, and we’re cruising right now. We need new owners. And that’s the hardest problem to fix. Unless their finances completely collapse, we are looking at a 85 million dollar payroll again next year, and another year under .500.

  • Jack

    Ya he makes bad decision making during games.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    You can’t suddenly tell guys they’ve got to use a new K zone, unless there’s two strikes, and then you go back to the old one. That would screw up anybody who ever played.

  • Hodges14

    How can you say fleeced? At best the jury is still out. Up to this point the Mets have reaped almost no benefits at all from those trades.

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    Hudgens keeps referring to these players working hard and he doesn’t want to hear the negativity over and over.

    What are they supposed to talk about in the booth? The Mets are 0 for the century with the bases loaded. Fans don’t want to hear about how a guy battled, struck out, and failed in a big spot.

    This organization is completely disconnected from the fans. Completely. Fans spend a ton of money to finance these ridiculous salaries and the Mets think the fans are supposed to be happy because these guys work hard?

    Join the ranks of the real world and get real jobs where people work thankless jobs busting their tails and make peanuts compared to these players.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TPT

    payrolls our biggest problem but using 20 million on Colon 60 million on Grandy 7 million on CY is a bigger problem its about EVALUATING talent plan and simple and our GM fails miserably in that dept

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    Collins isn’t a good manager, but he’s been given a horrible roster to manage. I don’t think he’s as bad as he seems. I think he has to be graded in line with the talent he has. He’s got an inferior roster to work with.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I work one of these jobs you describe. My job is also results-oriented. My boss BOOS me if I don’t produce, and doesn’t give a crap how hard I worked if the results aren’t there.

  • Alwayzamazin

    just hearing Hudgens whine about the fans and Keith shows me what a spineless crybaby we had down there in the dugout. i bet he was making excuses for the hitters as well coddling them all the time.

  • Matlack

    Francesa will never do that. Not once in twenty years have I heard him discuss jeff Wilpon’s qualifications as a COO of a major company. He talks a lot about the culture of losing, which is probably his inner Yankee fan talking, and he’ll tear up Sandy or Omar, but NEVER Jeff.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    Honestly, I’m glad hes gone after hearing that interview.

  • Joey D.

    Hi dave,

    Not speaking in terms of hindsight.

    We do not know what other deals were being discussed with teams other than Toronto and that is why I raised the question only playing devil’s advocate because as I said, I wanted to be fair.

    Just wanted to see what other’s felt about the thought of perhaps having gone for one who might have been showing promise at the major league level rather than a top rated prospect. Did not say it was a bad move for I have always stated that I agreed with the trade getting d’Arnaud and understood the logic but that it was very difficult for me to accept personally because of my feelings for R.A.
    Also stated I detested the way R.A. was being treated with him being portrayed by those “un-named” officials as being a selfish player, a bad influence in the clubhouse, etc. and

  • BarnRat

    “You want to be realistic.” OK, realistically our line-up can’t hit, Dave

  • Charley’s Twin

    yup. I still think his firing won’t change a thing, but he just embarrassed himself.

  • Alwayzamazin

    agreed.

  • Jack

    I want him to kill the Wilpons

  • TPT

    and then you hear Grandy bellyache because fans boo …give me a break you sign a contract that 1/10 of one year we will never see in our lifetime and you agree you be in the public eye because its part of your job and then you sigh cause your booed….this whole team is a wreck

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    It seems Jeff has a Teflon veneer when it comes to the media.

  • Alwayzamazin

    interesting point, i never picked up on that.

  • Joey D.

    And when he was not hitting well and sulking with the Mets during 2011, it was because he was suffering from an extremely bad bout of colitis.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    I think he’s pretty poor, but you make a good point.

    If you have a roster full of players with a higher “fail percentage” than most other teams, your moves will backfire more often, and you’ll look more inept than other managers.

    TC is still fairly awful, even taking that into account.

  • Alwayzamazin

    which TERRY broadcast to the media!!

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    Same here.

  • Charley’s Twin

    that’s because he is frequently an anonymous source for their stories (RA Dickey has a bad attitude, anyone?)

  • SCarton12

    Then why isn’t Francessa going after the Wilpons? Why are the press, except for one person, leaving the Wilpons alone?

  • mets4lyfe

    Hudgens took a subtle shot at ownership, but he was trying to back away from it after Kay kept asking how Alderson has his hands tied.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    Aha, ya know, you’re probably right about that.

  • Joey D.

    Kay?

  • Jack

    I’m guessing he failed miserably because the mets keep getting worse and worse every year. Thank you Selig for giving us Alderson over new ownership. Thanks for protecting your buddies and not the fans.

  • Alwayzamazin

    so he didn’t say there were monetary constraints? i guess that leaves Sandy’s ineptitude as the big old elephant in the room!

  • Charley’s Twin

    I used to work in media. I know how the sausage gets made.

  • mets4lyfe

    Michael Kay show

  • Matlack

    That indeed is the question. there are probably a lot of behind the scenes fundraisers, golf tourneys and such that would get threatened if Mike dared to raise the issue. Wilpons seem like vindictive types.

  • mets4lyfe

    Hudgens would be a great kindergarten teacher.

  • Charley’s Twin

    ha!

  • Alwayzamazin

    sure he would just blame the parents or the school

  • Joey D.

    OK, I’m biased so my opinion doesn’t count on this so I’m going to leave it the rest of you to formulate this opinion.
    Did Hudgens sound like an arrogant and in many ways a crude type of individual? Again, I’m putting my feelings aside on this because I know I cannot give a clear opinion on this.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    A process one should never watch. But here we are, sausage for breakfast, sausage for lunch, and sausage every GD night.

  • Matlack

    Agreed. The closest facsimile is probably Kirk Gibson out west and he may not be long for that job.

    Billy Martin would not find employment in today’s MLB-it’s much more corporate.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I answered below with my theory—I’m pretty sure Jeff Wilpon is frequently an anonymous source for the media. This insulates him from criticism since he helps the media do their jobs (how do stories like RA Dickey having a “bad attitude” get out there exactly?)

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    I don’t think he sounded arrogant or crude. Sounded like a regular guy that makes a ton of excuses for himself and his players.

  • CJM

    No I don’t think he sounded arrogant or crude. I think he was trying to answer questions without throwing anyone–including himself–under the bus, though.

  • TPT

    he brings in Valverde in the 8th to blow the save then leaves him in the game in the 9th to lose the game…BRILLIANT LOL

  • Alwayzamazin

    Hi Joey, i was impressed with the amount of whining and lack of fire he showed. the only impression i ever had of him before yesterday was that he was not getting good results, but his personality is not a winning one to put it mildly

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Are you telling me all my Dave Hudgens rookie cards have lost their value?

  • Bobby O

    Even though I’m not a fan of Mike, IMO Mike with some very good points on Sandy.

  • Matlack

    He’s very good at his job.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    Hudgens just said if they want a winner they should let the purse strings lose and let terry manage

  • Alwayzamazin

    Verdad, Presidente! tienes razon! we are los chorizos!

  • SCarton12

    LMAO re-read what you wrote. Fatcessa can’t say they are going to be great one week and then rip the GM the next, it makes him and you look like idiots.

  • BCleveland3381

    Hudgens on the Michael Kay show said two times that he thinks Sandy would have built a winner here if he was allowed to. WOW lol

  • Selltheteam06

    he said let the purse strings lose and let sandy make moves without restrictions put on him

  • mets4lyfe

    “If he was allowed to do what he wants to do……I have no doubt we’d have a winning team” – Hudgens on Sandy Alderson

  • Selltheteam06

    SELL THE TEAM

  • Charley’s Twin

    ok now he’s working back into my good graces.

  • TPT

    did you see the managers on baseball tonight ACTA GUILLEN and WIDGE question TCs moves and all of them were scratching their heads

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    SELL THE METS!!!

  • Jack

    I caught that too. I wished he bashed them even more. I hope MLB is listening.

  • SCarton12

    Which is why he wouldn’t sign a one year deal with the Mets, Fatcessa should know that.

  • SinHalo27

    More often than not Francesa is a pompous, disrespectful, blowhard but this time he nailed it.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    WOW, ok gotta listen to Michael Kay show, WIlpon coming on…gonna ask about what Hudgens said

  • mets4lyfe

    I thought Hudgens did a very good job in being as honest as he can without throwing anyone under the bus.

  • BCleveland3381

    It’s great. We need to get the media to turn on the real villains here…ownership. Sandy has failed as well, but his margin for error is so small its nearly impossible to build and sustain a contender.

  • MikeyT

    exactly Alderson has spent about 115+ million on the likes of Colon, Granderson, CY, Frank Frank, DJ Carrasco and Jon Rauch, Shawn Marcum
    Thats pitiful

  • Alwayzamazin

    hudgens trying to secure a cushy reassignment

  • Mikey

    Why does the Met’s Approach work when away but not at home?
    Hudgens wants to blame the PLAYERS but the truth of the matter it’s because of the Pitchers they face and what they do @ Citi compared to their home parks and Bandboxes…

    You want to shut down the Mets Offense what do you do?

    Answer THROW STRIKES! They don’t swing and as a result they are constantly in the hole 0-2 and roll over on pitches or look at Called Strike 3!

    Why does it get worse at Home than Away?
    Because CitiField is a PITCHER’S PARK and every Pitcher in the league KNOWS THIS!

    They don’t fear throwing strikes because they know chances are likely it will stay in the park where at home throwing strikes goes over a fence for a three run job!
    Yet when away those same pitchers are little more concerned about keeping the ball inside the smaller park and as a result HAVE to paint and throw more Balls which plays better into the WAITING Philosophy.

  • SouthlandMetsFan

    Exactly. He signed a one year deal knowing he could put up some good numbers with Baltimore and then parlay that into a multi year with somebody else.

  • SCarton12

    Exactly, Citi’s dimensions are very neutral. Left-center is fairly short.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    Cats of the bag now, finally someone admits it

  • Matlack

    Sounds like the old USSR, where there was always a long line for sausage.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    Le duele al ser correcto!

  • Jack

    Selig says he has all the confidence in the world in Sandy and Wilpon as owners; meanwhile, everyone is taking shots at him and the Wilpons.

  • TPT

    we lost last night not because of inferior talent but a inferior MGR..and the 3 managers on baseball tonight all agreed TC doesnt have a clue

  • Jack

    Exactly, it is the owners!!! It has always been and will always be the owners

  • Alwayzamazin

    metsie is that really you? the capitalization tells me it could be! hope all is well!

  • Matlack

    Yup. When I heard that zinger about RA being a self-promoter, I knew it was Jeff. Do you think Jeff was the one who talked about Ike partying too hard?

  • T Boogy

    Not normally a fan of Kay but that interview was better than Francecsa’s. Got Hudgens to take a shot at the owners and he revealed his love affair with Duda, which made him sound stupid. He also was confused on how to answer whether Ike would be batting. 300 now if he were still with the Mets. What I didn’t like was that neither interviewer pressed him on SA’s obsession with walks and how that affected the hitters.

  • Randolph Scott

    Seems like I’m in a minority here, but I found him condescending towards Keith and seemed like he was back tracking his pointed comments yesterday into generalities today.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    I just knew the communists were behind this.

  • Alwayzamazin

    lol!

  • Alwayzamazin

    love affair with duda? me too! lol!!

  • jessepmmo

    Okay, wait a minute.

    First – Pagan wasn’t on the Mets in 2012, thus even if he was an All-Star in 2012 – Hudgens didn’t have him then.

    Second – He wasn’t a 2012 All Star – not sure where you got that

    Third – When Hudgens HAD Pagan, he was a .694 OPS hitter

    There is a massive difference between a STAR and Angel Pagan. If you’re including Angel Pagan in the same category as Carlos Beltran, then you’re either still celebrating Memorial Day weekend a little too hard OR you’re trying your best to insult Beltran

  • yup…

  • let terry manage…

    hmmm

    who is managing the team if not terry…

  • Matlack

    Really? He praised Keith as a player, seemed very impressed by his career. Twice he said that he never even discussed his hitting approach with Keith, but it was the “negativity” of the booth that bothered him, rather than anything substantive.

  • DrDooby

    It’s funny how annual payroll and total value of a contract are often lumped together if it suits the argument.
    FACT: Mets payroll in 2014 is about 85 million $ and in the bottom 25 % in the majors. The roster is loaded with 1st or 2nd year players, pretty much half of it. Growing pains are inevitable under such scenarios. Though some of them have been self-induced and shouldn’t have happened.
    And basically Alderson & Co deserve a mulligan for 2011 through 2013 when they worked under the most severe financial restrictions in recent history in a market like this, essentially sporting 55 million $ rosters for the past couple of years.

    Now it counts and – rightfully so – the front office has to be held accountable for the product on the field. They better work hard to change the direction this season has been headed into. Anything below .500 would qualify as a disappointing season, considering circumstances.

  • Charley’s Twin

    We’ll never know for sure, but I suspect it was him. Notice how all of these hit pieces always have the same pattern to them.

  • Suffering Mets Fan

    yup my mistake, I was in shock that someone finally admitted it.

  • winning without wright is more marketable than losing with wright.

  • Matlack

    Not to mention TC effectively forced Pagan out of NY with his abusive behavior in a game at Philly. Pagan wanted out in the worst way.

  • BCleveland3381

    Sandy on Kay’s show now…

  • TPT

    and they dont fear throwing strikes to a team with TEJADAS DUDAS TDAs CYs and EYs in the line up lets not forget this lol

  • Jack

    Let the hesitation commence for Sandy Alderson.

  • Hodges14

    I’m guessing it’s the negative results on the field that bother Ron and Keith in the booth.

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    Alderson up next on Kay.

  • Alwayzamazin

    The Loord is next on Michael Kay. what an afternoon!

  • What Dave was trying to say is that Angel Pagan is better than any player Sandy brought to play in Queens.

  • pastline63

    Hard to watch this team as a fan imagine as a former World Champion from the same club watching the pure garbage on the field, and trying to sell it as art.

  • Alwayzamazin

    you mean, let it continue?

  • not a shock the team hired a new director of communications right when they need it the most..

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    Seriously!! He said that?? Wow, thank god for Dave Hudgens. Wait, did I say that?

  • Hodges14

    Up till 2 weeks ago the Mets had 10 players age 30 or above and were the 7th oldest team in mlb. We’re 4 years into Alderson’s regime. The statute of limitations on blaming Omar has expired. Alderson and the Wilpons have repeatedly stated that money is not an issue (laughable, i know). Given all of that and the complete lack of results on the field, Alderson has done a terrible job here.

  • Byrd would’ve made the MOST sense.

    Beltran a close 2nd.

    Granderson – not even close at 4 years..

    Nelson Cruz – not even close either. Not a fan of having a statue out in the OF

  • Matlack

    Staying topical, I’m not a guy who boos the home team, but I’ll boo Jeff. RA scales Kilimanjaro to promote awareness of human traficking and he’s a self promoter? Jeff has the temperament of a petty despot.

    Still can’t understand how a class guy like Wright is reportedly buddies with a guy like that.

  • Martin

    people care what francesca says? idiots

  • TPT

    yes he would ‘ NOW KIDDIES REMEMBER WE DONT USE THE BLUE CRAYON UNTIL WE HAVE USED BLACK TWICE “

  • Joey D.

    Thanks everyone for your thoughts. As I said, I recognize I’m very biased in this so could not trust myself being objective from what I might want to pick and chose from a word or so or a tone of voice for a few seconds over the radio.

  • Randolph Scott

    I dunno …. those “old school” and “I don’t know what he’s thinking” comments have nothing to do with his praise of him as a player ….. sounds like he’s dissing Keith as an out of touch with today’s philosophy on how to hit, Hudgens style approach.

  • Selltheteam06

    ba ha ha hello to both of ya

  • Joey D.

    Not exactly a lineup that is going to strike fear into the hearts of pitchers – except the days that deGrom is on the mound.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I can assure you that nobody cares what you have to say.

  • Matlack

    The Pope knows his target demographic.

  • Mikey

    Perhaps but I already addressed that Tejada and Duda were much better hitters before they were indoctrinated and badgered to adopt the philosophy our three best hitters have ignored like the plague. (Murphy, Lagares and Wright)

  • Mikey

    Yes dear I returned recently after a short vacation from the Daycare center!

  • pastline63

    SA and the Wilpons created nothing but paper popper teams -make a cute noise, (4 or 5 games above 500), then fall apart. Tease you for a week then reality sets in and they are exactly if not worse off than you thought. Francesa is a blowhard, but he is right. Hey we got some young talent coming, wow haven’t we always had talent coming. There is no offense and anyone with a brain think Harvey or any other pitcher wants to pitch his butt off and loose 2-1 or 3-2 , worse 1-0 or 2-0, pathetic they will bail on this cheap team and seek better opportunities. Alderson smirks as if he’s going to say “love that joker”, and offers more verbal tripe as Jeff and Fred call the franchise “a break even business”, Sorry my money is not going to them let them trick more people into a bright future. By the way that light is the Friggen train and it’s coming fast.

  • Metropolitan

    You are judged by results so far, bad luck can’t be an excuse , pointing out those deals have not worked out so far is correct ,Wheeler looks like he is nothing special TdA looks like a complete bust,Syndergaard(remember we can’t assume those were the only deals on the table for Alderson in respects to Dickey and Beltran just what Alderson thought was best) might have a serious elbow injury. He keeps whiffing for the most part with the resources he does have like with Cruz or even Morse to go with Young and never mind his horrible bullpens year after year

  • Alwayzamazin

    welcome back!!! you’ve been missed!

  • Alwayzamazin

    was it a voluntary vacation? just wondering?

  • Matlack

    Yeah, I can see that, though it was immediately after the firing, so there’s that.

  • BCleveland3381

    Kay asked Sandy about our RCF gap in Citi and why it’s there considering we took away all of Wrights opposite field power?

    Sandy said it’s a good question. They moved the fences in once, and then basically said “is this something we’ll consider doing again this offseason?…perhaps.”

  • Alwayzamazin

    verbal tripe– nicely done!

  • SCarton12

    That is an over-statement, other teams players have no problem hitting them out to left.

  • T Boogy

    Sandy is such a politician. He is so good at speaking a lot but not saying anything substantial or relevant.

  • BCleveland3381

    I know you have to have a certain level of respect for someone when they come on and do an interview for you, but Kay was absolutely crushing him before this interview, and he’s kinda throwing softballs to him now…

  • awesome, now we go from blaming the dimensions to blaming the wind !

    how is it that Marlon Byrd and Scott Hairston were able to overcome the wind, but David Wright is stuck on a 9 HR pace for the year.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    David is a lovely, naive innocent who’d probably be complimenting Stalin on his toy soldier collection if he played in Russia.

  • Mario Gonzalez

    +1000 Damn dude. Well said.

  • Charley’s Twin

    mindless claptrap. he was just asked about the budget and is just spewing slogans and platitudes.

  • Selltheteam06

    hopefully this intensifies

  • Alwayzamazin

    he’s a lawyer, almost the same as a politician. here comes the money question! is lack of money hampering him?

  • AAAA/metsfan

    is MDD the best hitter we have at any minor league level? “NO” Because we need good hitters at the ML level. he’s not hitting— considering the VEGAS effect. AAAA has better hitters in dykstra ,BROWN, lutz…and AA Plawecki.reynolds, A Nimmo and others-!—!! so clean house Sandy/Wilpons. YUP good defense AKA MDD (SOS)drove in the runs with the bases loaded this week didn’t it? (NOT) Dykstra 41rbi in 139 AB ….c’mon …gimme a break. C.Young =mistake =stop wasting ABs=cut. Brown .350…10/10… Lutz steady grinder BA “good” rbi” good Plawecki ready now bring up now..skip AAA +leave d’not at AA till he can hit. Wilpons —act like you own this team and stop being ” DBs” “F” the money ! Stop being timid. Fire Collins now. Pull the trigger . Stop picking the wrong guys because the right ones are obvious. play them and you will find the winners.

  • Charley’s Twin

    the other guy just directly asked about the budget.

  • Selltheteam06

    “the short answer to that is no”, id like to hear the long answer

  • nope. he’ll be next year’s scott hairston for some other team.

    if he’s smart, he’ll go to Philly, Boston or Baltimore on a 1 year 2 mil deal

  • Matlack

    Not half as much as they bother old-time fans like you and me.

    I think Ronnie is a little more professional in the way he dissents. Keith gets a little cocky, and this isn’t the first time he’s had run-ins with Mets personnel over his criticism.

  • Jack

    something is very fishy here. Sandy lied about the Wilpons. It’s the Wilpons fault obviously. If Sandy badmouthed the Wilpons he would be fired.

  • Charley’s Twin

    SANDY IS SUCH A FREAKING LIAR.

  • 9 of his HR are on the road.

    He has more HR on the road than anyone on our team has in total.

    What u got next champ ?

  • Alwayzamazin

    catch 22 indeed!!

  • Metfan9876

    Obviously he won’t openly say the Wilpons are not allowing him to spend, but it’s pretty clear that they are not letting him.

  • Jack

    Be a man Sandy and blame the Wilpons.

  • Matlack

    Would that make him a useful idiot?

  • Alwayzamazin

    or take a page from Hudgens book and blame the fans

  • Alwayzamazin

    not to defend the ponzis but i would trust him spending my money either

  • Selltheteam06

    if you omit every one of our losses, we are a pretty good team

  • Jack

    He says he was here to slash payroll off the long term bad contracts and now the bad contracts are gone and he is still here slashing payroll. It is obvious it is the Wilpons and I know Kay knows.

  • Jack

    Lol, he still believes in C. Young hahahha

  • TPT

    the A’s operate with a 74 million dollar budget and see the results? its about allocating what money you have to the right players and knowing how to evaluate talent..and no matter how you look at it would you offer 60 million to Grandy who nobody came close to challenging the Mets on the lenght or amount of that contract for good reason or would you use it on J.Abreu? would you use 20 million precious dollars on a 41 yr old pitcher when you have a wealth of young pitching or would you try to secure a Cruz with that money?

  • Alwayzamazin

    lolol love it

  • Novito

    NOBODY believes anything Sandy is saying right now smh

  • Selltheteam06

    wow a .240 hitter is what he wanted

  • pastline63

    Well his bosses said follow our lead.

  • Metropolitan

    Oh Sandy,still singing that company line of if you come we will build it,on Michael Kay show ,I.E the only way payroll can go up is if we pack the stadium for this garbage on the field ..total BS.Though it seems from what he said we may be heading for more park dimensions adjustments especially to RF which I am full in favor of

  • Jack

    This is a Mess. The ownership can’t properly own or run a baseball team and they are very cheap and only care about owning the team, our FO lies to our faces, and our manager makes crazy in game decisions. I don’t think that is a formula for success lol.

  • Novito

    The wilpons n mets will spend if they get “revenue”. Once again sandy n fred n company, field a good team and you will then flip that money. So simple.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    Most of us will slobber up to authority under pressure. David has raised it to an artform.

  • .240 with a good OBP.. which makes very little sense to me. Give me a hitter any day over the walking dead.

  • Alwayzamazin

    it’s what he’s hoping for!! what about Byrd Sandy???

  • Charley’s Twin

    true

  • Selltheteam06

    Also overlooked: CY has been a HORRIBLE centerfielder

  • Jack

    If Byrd had a bounce back season then why not sign Marlon Byrd rather than gamble on C. Young?

  • jason bay

    Yeah,

    You can’t just put an overlay of Citi Field over HR’s hit elsewhere and say that means anything.

    All parks play differently and I believe that rotunda blocks the warm southerly breezes that provide carry in neutral stadiums and Cruz would not outhit that the way he is in those small AL East band boxes and he wouldn’t have the benefit of playing DH here other than 9 times a year so he is basically irrelevant to what is ailing the team.

  • Novito

    CY has gone thru a tailspin? Since when? A few yrs ago you mean. Smh.

  • Novito

    $$$

  • Michael Kay tells Sandy after Mets GM boasts about his bullpen ERA:

    “You are a genius when it comes to numbers. You should know that ERA is not a good barometer for measuring a bullpen’s success.”

    After some stumbling , Sandy said well, we’re not converting saves.

    Kay responds” “Saves? How about all the inherited runners that are crossing the plate? ”

    That wasn’t Sandy’s greatest Mets moment.

  • Alwayzamazin

    byrd not up for discussion…shocker

  • CY has been in decline for about three seasons! I guess this top notch FO ignores scouting reports or maybe our scouts suck too.

  • Jack

    Byrd signed for 8 million and C Young for a little over 7 million and he is playing like a AAAA player.

  • Michael Armato

    Like i said the dumbest Ivy league grad…

  • Matlack

    This appears to be a final power struggle between Sandy and Jeff. With Uncle Saul’s recent comments about selling, Jeff may be getting desperate, and forced Sandy to give him the head of someone close to him. All the beat writers stated that SA was “reluctant” to fire Hudgens. My guess is that Hudgens will be a loyal SA soldier(where his bread is buttered) and reveal some of the internal dynamics in a way that exposes the Wilpons, particularly Jeff.

  • Alwayzamazin

    this is true entertainment!

  • Jack

    I agree with the arms going into the bullpen and the solid starting pitching. We just freaking need run support lol. You can’t hope for Performance. You need to make moves.

  • Jack

    The sigh indicated that Sandy does not want Harvey to pitch this season

  • Mario Gonzalez

    Wow, I absolutely loathe Kay but this is great!!!

  • Metfan9876

    Being the GM of this team is just asking to go through hell. I don’t know why anyone would want to run this team right now. Everything is a complete mess.

  • Alwayzamazin

    another one comes to mind but he’s just the Prez….similarities anyone?

  • Jack

    Hint…Hint…Hint… Wilpon

  • Novito

    Ok PAULIEANA!! I called you that Sandy!

  • Michael Armato

    And the Wilpon’s are the dumbest millionaires..Madoff gave them what they deserved !!

  • Selltheteam06

    who’s got a Sandy “uhhh” count? has to be over 50 right now

  • Alwayzamazin

    polly anna? lol

  • Mario Gonzalez

    Oh how I wish John Hart would be offered the job or the Rangers owners had a case of stupidity and fired Jon Daniels and then Fred has a lucid moment and hires one of these guys.

  • Michael Armato

    Yeah man !!

  • Alwayzamazin

    is he a recovering stutterer?

  • Charley’s Twin

    He sounded like a bumbling fool.

  • Jack

    Alderson says payroll will go up if we generate revenue. I hate these darn owners who are blaming the fans for not showing up. It’s like they are saying, we suck because you aren’t giving us money.

  • Charley’s Twin

    seriously. They can go to hell. Not a cent from me.

  • Alwayzamazin

    2 years for 8 right?

  • Novito

    Yea sorry lol

  • Jack

    There are restrictions!!!

  • Alwayzamazin

    no i just thought i was missing who Paul was!! lol

  • Charley’s Twin

    did he just say that?

  • Selltheteam06

    no

  • Jack

    No, he said there aren’t hahahahha

  • Charley’s Twin

    Damn you got my hopes up.

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    Hahaha @lagreca…small market Mets. Sandy thinks he is being unfair.

  • Alwayzamazin

    on to sny!! wow!!

  • MattHarvey’sEgo

    Sigh…pause…hahahaha

  • Selltheteam06

    2 years for 16, 8 per year

  • Michael Armato

    Francesa was waiting to strike,and Hudgens gave him what he needed !!! BULLETS…Hudgens is a little leaguer and it shows in the Mets BA,and his comments.See ya Rook,you will never work again.You better get Wally Backman now Sandy to save face..Even though you hate Backman to death he is an 86′ WINNER with balls !

  • Jack

    Oh right, my bad but still.

  • Jack

    Sandy handled the questions well by lying like he does best

  • Alwayzamazin

    thanks

  • DrDooby

    Both have proven to be mortal and unable to turn water into wine…..

  • Charley’s Twin

    this is awesome. Nothing will probably come of this, but it’s great to see the organizational incompetence laid bare, for even the most dense to see it.

  • Selltheteam06

    So it seems that there is a better chance of seeing GKR go than Terry lol what a pathetic franchise

  • Alwayzamazin

    or walks into wins as the case may be

  • Matlack

    Interesting. That’s the right line of questioning.

  • BarnRat

    Wonder if the Mets can trademark the term SNAFU?

    That would generate some revenue.

  • Alwayzamazin

    if GKR go i will not watch again. that simple.

  • Jack

    OMG If that happens I would forever never go to a Mets game.

  • So it’s the fans fault that TC, Sandy and the Wilpons have put a terrible product out on the field? Really? That is utter BS! So we did a terrible job but it is your fault because you not coming to games means we can’t afford to do better? Umm Hey Sandy here is a clue. Professional Baseball is a form of entertainment and if you are not entertaining to your fans, they will not come out to support the crappy product your mismanagement has put together. Think of it this way. If you filmed a crappy movie, word spreads and no one goes to see it and no money is made and in the end you lose your investment. Wish the Wilpons would be forced to sell but it will never happen.

  • Jack

    And Selig thought the Wilpons were good owners lol

  • pastline63

    These Wilpons must be laughing also because it is too crazy to believe. Fred: Jeff I got an idea let’s say we hate losing and we are determine to make serious changes in the coming days. Jeff: pissing his pants as he lol Dad stop you’re killing me! Both Wilpons laughing out of control rolling on the floor.

  • SouthlandMetsFan

    Yeah, Michael Kay, I really want Mets tickets after hearing that interview!

    How infuriating!

    This WHOLE TEAM IS A JOKE.

  • TPT

    just like your grocery store its simple …PUT THE PRODUCT I WANT ON THE SHELF AND ILL SHOP AND BUY IF NOT I AINT BUYING WHAT I DONT LIKE

  • Michael Armato

    You need to field a good team to get rev’s,,the Wilpons are as dumb as dumb could be…get Backman on the field right now !! The guy is the next Jim Leyland cigarettes and all !

  • agetting

    Mike Francessa is definitely right. Yes, Alderson had minimal funds to spend…but he’s done a terrible job with the money he has had to use. He could have had Abreu and Nelson Cruz and instead we have Granderson and Chris Young

  • Alwayzamazin

    maybe the mets would have broken abreu and cruz too?

  • Matlack

    I’d say that was tongue-in-cheek, but it’s DW we’re talking about here.

  • Charley’s Twin

    unless of course they were in on the fraud, which I believe.

  • Alwayzamazin

    what next? anymore radio interviews coming up?

  • TPT

    your make taskmaster sob with those kind of statements lol

  • Charley’s Twin
  • Matlack

    Fleeced is the right word. The guys at Bluebird banter were shocked-they thought for sure it would be no more than Arrencibia and Gose. You have to look at trades when they happen, and what the value of the assets are at the time. Afterward, if they don’t work out, it would be fair to criticize a GM for failing to obtain value for what turned out to be a depreciating asset.

  • Charley’s Twin

    they could sell Freddie Coupons shirts to the fans. I’d even buy one!

  • Selltheteam06

    “The Mets are hitting .201 out of the cleanup spot, home and road.”

  • tidesrus

    Would you work for the Wilpons??

  • pastline63

    The Mets are now thanks to it’s ownership the laughing stock of Baseball, in all serious how much time and effort it’s going to take to rebuild this image.

  • Selltheteam06

    I would rather go to a Liberty game than Citi Field

  • Mario Gonzalez

    Good Point.

  • pastline63

    But it has to be a pic of father and son shoulder to shoulder laughing.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I would much rather go to a liberty game.

  • Jack

    Fred and Jeff Wilpon is a yes man to Bud Selig. Sandy Alderson is a yes man to all three. Terry Collins is a yes man to Sandy Alderson. End of Story.

  • SCarton12

    ‘The mets will spend if they get revenue’ just that statement alone tells EVERYONE that Wilpons do not have the money to support a MLB team. My God people read between the lines, he says there are no restrictions, then says if revenue increases they can spend. Obviously, there are restrictions.

  • Jack

    I guess that makes MLB front office a laughing stock for not ending the Mets misery.

  • MikeyT

    They have already lost an entire generation of Fans. In part due to the yankees success but in large part due to their own incompetance. Not many youngsters wearing Mets gear around town

  • pastline63

    Like I said going to take a great deal of effort.

  • Jack

    Message to the Wilpons and Sandy Alderson: Hope is not a strategy

  • Charley’s Twin
  • pastline63

    The Wilpons seem to splatter on everybody.

  • TPT

    How to alienate your fans without even trying by Sandy Alderson

  • Fonzie

    Hey Alwaysamazin, good to see you, long time. You hit the nail on the head, the Mets could turn Mike Trout and Miguel Cabrera into 250 hitter’s. They have a history of breaking down star players, Foster, Bonilla, Alomar, Bay, etc…

  • konyc

    That’s for home games–on the road, the motto can be FUBAR.

  • Alwayzamazin

    Heeeeeey it’s the Fonz! good to see you! wow you and metsie in one day, what a treat!

  • Fonzie

    Hart turned down the offer to be interviewed. He was contacted before Alderson’s name was even mentioned as a candidate. Pat Gillick also declined.

  • Martin

    you do not seem to paying attention. this story is about francesca, not me. whether people care what i have to say is not relevant, you should save comments about me for articles about me.

    just try to pay closer attention and you might understand what people say better.

    also you are factually incorrect, as you can not assure me that nobody cares what i have to say. even if they dont, you are not in position to make these assurances. please try to pay atttention.

    furthermore, even if you could make these assurances you claim, it still is not relevant to my point about francesca. people can ignore me all they like, and thats fine, they are still idiots unless they ignore franccesca as well.

    so you were wrong in multiple ways.

  • Martin

    how old are flores and lagares and montero and degrom and vic black and familia and those guys? i do not understand the problem. is alderson not allowed to speak about the young guys unless all players, including the fourth outfielder are young?

  • SCarton12

    I know he sucked up to them because they promised him exclusive for access to info.

  • SCarton12

    That is an interesting theory. I know a couple of years ago he was promised inside info and he let up on criticizing the team.

  • Hotstreak

    Both use the blame game, lie with a straight face, and do not take accountability. The organizations they are running are under water and sinking fast. Time for a Change. Chris Christie is applying for both jobs. Jed Bush too.

  • TonyR

    We need a major league shortstop and first baseman if we have any hopes for success. Duda and Tejada are garbage.

  • Peter S

    If he doesnt swing a bat again this year, he probably will lead the team in HRs

  • Fast Eddie

    Fred Wilpon to Mets fans: “If you promise to keep coming into my candy store and buy all the schlock I currently have on the shelves, I’ll have enough money to go out and order some really good stuff you will absolutely love next year. But first you have to buy all the crappola.”

    Mets fans to Fred: (the one-finger salute).

    Veloz

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Hope and change? I heard that somewhere before….

  • ronmazzz

    Come on people. Francesa is a blow hard who loves to kick a dog when he’s down. A few weeks ago he was heaping praise on the Mets for being around .500, now that things have been bad he’s piling on. He’s not calling out Alderson, he’s being the jerk that he really is.

  • SRT

    Francesa is about as out of touch with all things Mets as the Wilpons are.

  • Keith’s stache

    I’m no fan of the Prez but he’s definitely not dumb. He’s convinced millions that he can walk on water. Thats quite an accomplishment.

  • Alwayzamazin

    fooling the masses with the help of the media-clever! not dumb but not smart either! Doubt our Vets feel he has accomplished anything since one of his campaign platforms was to reform the VA. just an example.

  • UPYOURTEE.COM

    why get on Francessa for calling out the GM? He’s right..duhh.

  • John Thiell

    He is right. Take this this season, Colon, Young, Granderson, Valverde are all terrible signings. You cant deny that.