Dec
4
2012

Check That! Dickey Looking For Less Than $29 Million Extension

Updated 4:45 PM

Andy Martino of the Daily News shoots down the report from MLB Network that Dickey wants a 3 year, $45 million deal. He tweets:

Dickey not seeking 3/45. Not even close. We’ve reported for weeks 2 yr extension he wants is less than Peavy’s 2/29, on top of 5 mil option.

Well, that’s more like it…

That’s a significant difference, especially if it’s on top of the $5 million which would give the Mets some breathing room as far as additional spending goes for 2013.

Updated 4:00 PM 

R.A. Dickey’s agent, Bo McKinnis, told ESPN New York that he would  not be surprised to see Dickey get traded.

“It’s hard to gauge,” McKinnis said. “We have enough of a difference of opinion that if R.A. does get traded, I can’t say I would be surprised. I’m not saying that’s our first choice, but if it happens, I’m not going to be surprised. There will be no hard feelings with it, either. Certainly, if it were to happen, R.A. would like to go to a winning, successful club. But it’s just part of the business.”

McKinnis told Rubin that it’s the dollars and not the years that are the stumbling block so far. While Rubin did not mention what the divide was in numbers, Jim Bowden of MLB Network Radio stated that Dickey is seeking a three-year, $45 million contract.

That’s a lot of Shake Shack burgers…

So on the one hand we have Dickey who is looking to get $2 million a year more tha what Dan Haren just signed for. Then on the other hand you have Sandy Alderson asking for two premium prospects or a difference maker in return for Dickey.

Maybe Jeff Wilpon was right… Maybe Dickey does play out his option year and the Mets take the two draft picks.

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  • The question is… Is that including 2013 or in addition to it?

    • That would probably be tearing up the 2013 option and replacing it.

      • Yes that would tear up the option.

  • I still think he will be traded. Even for a one year rental a 20 game winner with a 5 mil price tag will be appealing to some team out there. Just have to wait it out. Maybe even until mid-season if wheeler is ready.

    • If he is traded, its almost certain the club that gets him will extend him.
      I don’t feel comfortable spending close to $50 million on this guy. You could trade him for prospects but I also like the idea of getting a few picks to draft a good righty OF/C.

      • Would you be happy with pcks if they were 29th in the 1st or 2nd?

        Thats the problem with shooting for the picks as you don’t really know if the pick is worth having at all.

        Late 1st rounders are usually 2nd round stretches or some guy with 1st round talent PLUS issues that could make him a wasted pick.

        And don’t forget that you never get a high 1st rounder in comp. The teams in the top 15 all have thier picks protected from being awarded as comp picks so it really NEVER pays to just let him leave and take the picks.

        • Thanks for clearing that up. I’d rather see him be traded though then let him walk like Jose.

          • Personally I don’t think we get enough to make trading worth it…
            Better to sign him and hope he increases his stadium draw by repeating his success generating some revenue.

            Hold us for the next 3 years while we deal with Santana’s replacement and give us time to draft or trade for Dickey’s replacement when the deal is done.

            Getting a Cy Young pitcher for less than 18+Mil is a bargain.
            And we will need some Vet leadership for the rotation because there is no way in Hell Santana is here after next season. If Johan has any success HE should be the guy we trade at the deadline for the kids we want.

            • We really should trade Johan at the deadline. If if red sox/blue jays want him at the deadline I say we trade him and a few others for an OF or OF prospect and Salty ot Arencinia or d’Arnaud if we can.

              • Well he has to show he is going to help them or they won’t give you a damn thing but pay the remainder of this year’s salary.

                remember whoever gets him will NOT get picks, We could though…

                So if he is successful we can look to trade him and get something more MLB ready and if not you get your picks from him not Dickey.
                And it won’t matter which picks at that point because you probably had no intentions of resigning him anyway.

                The Question is will they make the qualifying offer to get those picks. My Guess is no which is why the trade at the deadline is probably the best bet.

          • Hi Sally,

            I believe it is evident by this time that Jose didn’t walk but was given his walking papers instead – notice Sandy is negotiating before the option year instead of telling both players to shop around and then get back to him like he did with Jose? Also note how Sandy and David’s agent negotiated the contract so number five will be paid less up front allowing the team to have more roster money to spend – could not the same have been done with Jose?

            Not to saying Jose would have stayed a Met but by Sandy having nothing to do with negotiations like he has with David and R.A., our G.M. was assuring us Jose wouldn’t

  • Too much money, trade him.

    • What do you think the Mets can get for Dickey? If they haven’t traded him yet, they probably aren’t getting good offers. Make a package around him including Duda, Meija/Familia, Lutz, Emaus, and get some good players or prospects.

      • Still early, Haren’s only big-name pitcher that’s signed i think. Teams are still jockeying around. i think once Greinke goes somewhere, the market for RA will improve. i still think he gets traded and to Boston or TX. Seems to me, they need SPs and, in the end, will give up some nice prospects for RA + maybe Familia or Mejia.
        Big Q is IF we’re able to trade Niese + for Myers, do we pull back RA from the market? If the return back consists of a couple high-end prospects (not Myers-level but still topflight), i’d be tempted.

  • Maybe wait and see how this plays out…they’re getting that difference maker.

  • So that’s how things are working with the Mets HUH win a battling title don’t even get the respect of a offer. Win a Cy Young and we won’t pay you so instead we’re trade you. If it wasn’t for a new girl that I met last season that loves the Mets as I do. I would’ve stuck to my boycott 2012 season. Instead I went to one game a loss of course. And not with the girl too LOL. So will my boycott carry over till next season. Time will tell.

  • This from Martino.

    @MartinoNYDN
    Dickey not seeking 3/45. Not even close. We’ve reported for weeks 2 yr extension he wants is less than Peavy’s 2/29, on top of 5 mil option

    https://twitter.com/martinonydn/status/276074035778031617

    • If thats correct its a 3 year 36Mil contract. Pretty reasonable for a guy who just won the Cy Young who has an improvement curve with an upward trend the last three years.

      • 36 for 3 is fair for both sides. They should hammer that out by the end of the meeteings if that’s the case.

        • I think it’s a damn steal myself…
          Whats it come out to 12 Mil per?

          He won’t be a 10/5 guy so there is plenty of time to trade him later if we have to and the fact he is signed for his retirement will get more than he would get us now on the one year rental.

          12 Mil for even a15 game winner is still pretty sweet and his ability to throw off lineups for the other guys we have who throw heat can’t be undersold.

          • OK everyone – THIS IS A FIRST.

            METSIE, FONZIE and JOEY D. IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT.

            If we can do it, so could Washington!

    • This sounds more realistic to me.

      This also seems like what I expected out of Dickey’s camp – although it wouldn’t be completely illogical for them to demand 3/45.

    • Thanks, we now have a 24 second news cycle… I will update this post….

      • LOL Actually it’s a 24 Second Rumor cycle hardly any of it is news until he signs! And it might actually be a 10 second Rumor cycle but we only pay attention to the ones let out by news sources.

  • Some fans should hold a strike or protest in the Citi Field parking lot like they did at SunLife Stadium in Miami to protest the Dolphins lol

    • Yeah all two dozen who showed up had a huge impact there?

      About the only thing Dolphin fans complain about now is that they gave up Marshall right around the time they FINALLY drafted a QB in the 1st since Marino and has showed a deep threat like Marshall could have been hit by him and completed thier offense.

      • I’m joking bro lol

        • I know but I happen to be a Dolphin fan and thought to myself at the time What a bunch of losers thinking a protest was going to change anything….

          Too much talk of Bycott here as well and the same folks who want to bycott are the same ones complaining that the team can’t spend money and why?

          Because people didn’t go to see them play! LOL

          • Woah im a phins fan also! Also a fan of the Giants.

            • I root for the Giants except in cases where it wouldhave a negative impact on the Phins…

              And I don’t HATE the Jets like most Phin Fans do cause I don’t see any reason to they always find a way to make us look good historically! LOL

              • Phins played well against the Pats who put up 40+ on the Colts and Jets. The dolphins had many chances to win that game or at least tie it. But Tannehill needs weapons because they have no WRs. I’m like “why not draft a WR this year then?” but I look at mock drafts and everyone’s saying they’re gonna pick a DE or LB. The defense is fine! Improve the offense! Lol this is wayyyy off topic. Its kinda pathetic were taking about the Dolphins during the Winter Meetings but the Mets haven’t really gave us much to talk about except the Wright signing and the possibility of a lot of players being traded.

                Oh BTW, Reds have offer out to Ludwick….

                • Why? Because 1st round draft WRs never seem to be as worth the pick as some other position…

                  And the NE game could have been won if they had stopped the run that burned the clock on them.

                  • I guess…

  • Interesting, Steve Phillips was on with Mad Dog about an hour ago and Phillips thinks Dickey will definitely be traded. He also said that BJ Upton and Angel Pagans contracts are absurd. He thinks Swisher is a good fit for any team because of he hits for power and walks a lot and that the reason why the Redsox struggled last year offensively is because their PPPA went down mainly because they have a lot of different players from the days when they worked deep counts and they need to get back to working counts. LMAO. Who knew Steve Phillips was a sabergoon all along.

    • Steve Phillips and Mad Dog used to be a wild combo when he was the GM and Russo was on WFAN. Plenty of wild and crazy moments…

      • Phillips cracked up when Mad Dog called Asdrubal Cabrera, Cabrubal. lol

        • And Nickname is born!

        • Heard the same thing. He even told Mad Dog to not even try saying the name before he mentioned the player.

          Joe if you didn’t know Phillips is the morning guy on Mad Dogs channel.

          • LOL, Actually I didn’t know that.

  • Story from Blue Jays stories that their GM doesn’t see a deal: “We’re not close to doing any deals at all.”

    • Also seeing from a Boston blurb that Red Sox ‘remain very high on Kyle Lohse’. If treu, that might cool any interest they’d have in RA.

    • I suspect he said (or would have if asked) the same thing the day before the Miami deal went down.

      you can put a GM in with a politician. if their lips are moving, they are probably lying!

      • Which is why a guy like Belichik and Parcells were always successful…

        They didn’t say much to the press, Just did what they did and never let onto anyone the reason or rationale for why they did it.

        Just stood there a looked like genius’ when the move worked.

        I have no problems with Sandy not wanting to give away the plan…But lying isn’t fooling anyone!

      • Now that’s very funny & very true!

  • Maybe Jeff Wilpon should shut up! 2 Draft Picks?…… that really doesn’t help

  • I don’t care if he’s asking for Johan Santana money. Keep him! We don’t want to go down in history as the idiots who traded a reigning Cy Young Award winner because ownership is too cheap to pay the man!!!

    • they aren’t too cheap to pay him, certainly not at that price (with the extension too).

      if he is getting traded, it is because they are able to get back some massivley needed help out on the field to build around.

  • Rumors the Red Sox are close with Victorino for three years and $38 million. Why in the blue he’ll did they trade Crawford if they’re going to turn around and pay Napoli and Victorino $26 million a year?

    • I guess they did not pay attention to how badly he tailed off last year. And his age. But, as long as we aren’t going to be stuck with him.

      • Yep its official. Victorino to Boston for 3 years and $39 million.

  • Victorino $13M a year.
    Pagan $10M a year.
    Kirk Nieuwenhuis keeps looking better and better in CF come Opening Day.

    • Hell to the Yea! Lol

    • This must be what Inflation looks like o_O

      • All of a sudden 17.25 Mil per year for Wright doesn’t sound like all that much does it?

  • Trading Santana now or before the deadline is not going to be easy. How much would anyone offer for a guy who has not had one whole injury free season coming off the surgery Johann had in 2011. Forget about the no hitter!

    If things went well for Johann in the first half of 2013 he might be of more value to the Mets depending on what he would be asking for down the road. He won’t be asking for big # 1 starter money but he won’t accept peanuts either.

    To a team that is seriously in the hunt for 2013 and needs a veteran starter because of injury, Johann could bring back a decent prospect but not a lot more because of injury risk and the amount of “warrior” innings he has pitched!

    • I see no scenario where Santana remains a Met past 2013 unless they convert him into a Closer and send him to the Pen.

      Yes it will be hard to trade him but how hard depends on how well he does.

      And your not going to get picks for him later on because there is no way they will make the qualifying offer to get them it would be too much and way more than he would get in FA.

      You are not going to rape someone for prospects by trading him but you might get something instead of nothing but Payroll relief at the end of the year.

      Maybe you get a Bullpen arm, Long Relief or Spot Starter out of it which will be fine.
      Then if no one bids on him at the end of the year and his price drops to more performance relative salary you can decide if you want him back or not.

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