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2012
Here’s A Thought… What If David Wright Doesn’t Want To Stay?
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I keep hearing, “Will the Mets re-sign David Wright?” and “What will it take to keep David Wright?” and “How can the Mets not afford to bring back David Wright?”
All very good, pointed and legitimate questions. Here’s some more: “What if David Wright wants to leave?” and “What’s keeping David Wright tied to the Mets?”
Unquestionably, Wright is the face of this franchise, he’s the most popular, he’s their best player. And, he’s still young enough where the team can build around him. But, what if Wright doesn’t want them to build around him anymore?
Seriously. Mull that over for a moment.
Jose Reyes is gone and so is Carlos Beltran, the latter whom is having a great season. Those were the position-player building blocks the team had around Wright. They are gone and if published reports are to be believed, might Ike Davis be next? Afterall, outside of their young pitching Davis figures to bring back the most in return.
Sandy Alderson has already said not to expect a winter spending spree, so realistically, the 2013 Mets will be vastly similar to this year’s second-half collapse model, with the hope being improvement from within, notably a strong first full season from Matt Harvey. Even so, the Mets are probably two or three years away from serious playoff contention.
Wright will be 33 in three years and perhaps nine years removed from his last playoff appearance (2006). Don’t you think he might be tired of being pitched around, losing and making public relations appearances for a team not going anywhere?
By that time, if not traded or having left as free agents, what will the 2015 Mets look like?
Just last week Wright said there are no moral victories and it is all about making the playoffs. At the same time, R.A. Dickey said “you’re kidding yourself if you think we’re more than one piece away.”
Wright said he wants to remain a Met, but hasn’t said he can’t say he’ll stay a Met regardless. He’d be crazy to say such a thing because it would limit his bargaining power. As it is, Wright won’t come close to hitting 30 homers, a milestone he’s reached several times, most recently in 2008. It has been part injuries, part Citi Field, part being pitched around and part bad habits that have led to Wright’s drop in power.
Wright has an option for next season which the team will undoubtedly pick us as to not risk heading into the ticket-selling offseason without their key player. If the Mets fail to sign him to an extension and then aren’t able to trade him as they didn’t Reyes, Wright will be a free agent and his phone will ring.
And, if the Mets don’t add some pieces around him soon, he’ll listen. He’d be a fool not to.
Thoughts from Joe D.
As much as I hope and want the Mets and Wright to agree on an extension, it’s certainly no slam dunk. I keep hearing fans tell me that Wright is different and he don’t care about money. They tell me Wright is loyal and that there’s no way he’ll play for someone else. I hear these things and I just laugh to myself while keeping a serious and interested look on my face. “What are they thinking?” my mind says…
What’s keeping you at your jobs? If someone offered you triple your salary would you say sorry and play your loyalty card? You may think that’s how Wright operates, but I disagree. I give Wright a lot more credit and believe he’s a lot more intelligent than that.
David Wright is neither foolish or naive. He will do what all players do and put his own personal interests at the forefront of any negotiation. If he doesn’t he might be one of the biggest and most ignorant players in the history of the Mets.
Wright will want to see a viable plan from this front office. The same plan I’ve been asking about for the last six months.
Wright will want to know what else is coming besides a few good prospects that may or may not make it.
He’ll want to know the numbers about the present payroll budget and beyond.
He has seen how Beltran, Delgado, Bay and Santana were treated when they didn’t live up to expectations due to health reasons or decline.
This is a franchise with fans that booed Mike Piazza during the final two years of his contract – someone Wright looked up to and wanted to be like some day.
Wright has seen the best and the worst of the Mets, mostly the worst. This front office better have a plan to present to him in addition to a market value contract offer if they want to keep Wright from bolting out the Gill Hodges gate after the 2013 season or before.
The bidding begins at five years and $100 million and it could go up from there and he will have an iron clad no-trade clause and one that will preclude compensation ala Carlos Beltran if he does submit a list of five teams that would be okay with him.
But more important than all that, you better show him a plan that will convince him this team will contend for the NL East for the next 5-6 years, or the financials of a deal won’t even matter.
Wright’s no dummy…
About the Author: John Delcos
I am an active member of the BBWAA and have covered Major League Baseball in several capacities for over 20 years, including ten in New York working the Mets' and Yankees' beat. I covered the Baltimore Orioles for eight years and the Cleveland Indians before that. I currently serve as an editor and senior staff writer for Mets Merized Online. Follow me on Twitter @jdelcos.
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It’s certainly a possibility….
But does it say as much about Wright (if he does bolt) as it does about his thinking on which direction the FO is taking this team?
What would it say about the future chances of this FO being able to lure a free agent if and when the time is right to go get one worth having?
Why should David Wright be concerned with what the public thinks about him? His image? He’s done and said everything in his power to be loyal to the team.You have never heard a disparaging remark or rumor attributed to him about this team. Should we be shocked to see David sign with the Los Angeles or Boston? Here’s a thought.Maybe he’ll sign with the Marlins? Whatever he decides he doesn’t owe the front office a damn thing! Excuses.Excuses That’s all we are going to hear for the next two years. What happens then? Why can’t Mets fans see that if we had new ownership like the Dodgers maybe we wouldn’t be discussing 2014-2015 but rather buying playoff tickets instead? No future free agent in his right mind is going to sign with the Mets.We are the eastern version of the Oakland A’s minus the competent front office. It’s humiliating and embarrassing to put a product on the field and tell your fan base to support this garbage. Then they have the nerve to complain about lack of support.We need to boycott the remaining games and show the Wilpons that fans are not going to put with it any more. Let them post 8.000 fans to a home game and see what their response will be.They’ll probably cut payroll from the front office and Citifield.
Joe D: Question for you.
I agree with your premise of how the talks will go. Wright and his agent will want to ensure he’s not signing a contract that ensures he is a well known player on a terrible team.
If Wright signs with the Mets, would you think differently of the Mets future plans or think differently of Wright?
If Wright signs I would think differently of the Mets future plans.
The front office lies to media, pubic and fans everytime they open their mouth. You cant believe a word they say. They are okay with lying and it’s become the embodiment and personification of who they are.
However, I don’t think they would lie to Wright and his agents when they demand to know what the plan is moving forward.
Only a true lowlife would lie about that to a star player during a serious negotiation process. A lowlife like Jeff Loria and the henchmen in his front office for example.
If Wright signs, I’ll take that as an affirmation that good things are coming our way.
If Wright doesn’t sign, it will only confirm what I’ve been thinking and saying all along. That there is no plan and this franchise is doomed under Alderson like it was under Grant.
Joe I mentioned this earlier but you do realize that a FO job is to
“The front office lies to media, pubic and fans everytime they open their mouth. You cant believe a word they say. They are okay with lying and it’s become the embodiment and personification of who they are.”
Which organization out there is truthful with their fans and the media? As long as you understand that everything said in the media has an agenda and is separate from the real truth, which lies in the middle, then comments by players, FO, etc will take on a new light.
Which begs the question what would stop them from lying to Wright as well just to keep him an avoid the public relations disaster that would ensue due to his loss?
Once he is signed they can do whatever the hell they want again even trade him if thats what they decide.
So the only guarantee Wright could get from them is if they go and get someone to show him they are serious before he signs!
And I doubt highly thats going to happen.
And just because they can make an argument that convinces Wright to stay doesn’t mean they can actually execute it considering how bad the moves they have made so far have worked out.
Because despite what the vocal minority think – the fans love David Wright. If he was lied to, he’d eventually say something. Because he’d ask to be traded.
They can’t afford that type of PR nightmare. They cannot afford to have one of the best players in franchise history demand to be traded because he was lied to.
If it came that though they would have a lot more to worry about than PR!
They would be under fire to GET FIRED long before Wright got frustrated and lashed out!
So bottomline is if your so quick to lie to the fans might as well lie to the player they need to keep or risk the PR problem anyway without Wright having to say a word!
Either way they face a PR problem…Only choice is NOW or LATER…
They can lie to wright and deal with it later IF later isn’t already TOO LATE for them and they are still here.
They have until the end of next year to start winning and show us something.
Another year like this one and these guys are DONE!
No matter what they said to Wright to get him to sign and sooner if they don’t get him to sign at all!
This.
Hi Joey D:
I have a question for you. Hypothetically we had Murphy as our 3B and DW is a FA from another team. That team was a cone of the Mets with not the best players for protection and an unbalanced lineup. Weight hit the FA market wanting 120 M for six years. Rememebr he is now a 30 year old FA (2nd generation) and not home grown. His stats are still good but declining. Rumors are that he of back issues. You read the local papers and blogs of his former team that he is not clutch. We fired recently Omar for signing these types of FA ala Bay (also medical rumors with back) What kind of offer would you make to Wright in this scenario if any?
4 yrs 75 million gauranteed plus 2 option years. Plus incentives for Allstar appearances, GG, Silver Slug, etc…
Hi Hot Streak,
It seems logical that a team now put in the position that the Mets are in would not try and trade David this winter. At his age, David would be more valuable on a team with a chance to win now, not for us. Murphy’s natural position is third and moving him there makes way for our youngster down on the farm to get his crack at second.
But it would be much better to go with the illogical choice to try and re-sign David. It would be good for the players and the fans and if nothing more, it would be in the best financial interests in the long-term for the Wilpons because most all fans would feel as if they were kicked in the teeth and the stomach and nobody, and I mean nobody, will show up at Citi Field with these owners still in power.
There are just some things that can’t be computed and one who relies on all intelligence and no heart does not have the wisdom to understand this, even when it comes to one’s own financial self-interest. Spirit might not win ball games but the lack of it can certainly lose them… along with the fans..
Wright has GOT to insist on an out clause to protect himself against just what you describe – a lowlife owner lying to him about the future financial plans for the team. I wouldn’t put that past our esteemed ownership for a second.
If you were Wright, would you take this front office on its word? This contract will be Wright’s biggest career move ever. Its now or never for him to be part of a winning organization. I just don’t see the FO being able to do or say anything that would convince Wright or anyone else their plans and direction will result in a winning team. Payroll will not be increased and player development, as with any team, is no guarantee.
‘What If David Wright Doesn’t Want To Stay?’
Oh boy….when I suggested this the other day, a couple of posters here jumped all over it commenting Wright has no leverage.
Of course he does. This article spells it out.
I have to think that if no extension can be worked out, he’ll be gone by opening day.
That’s it? That’s his leverage?? I don’t wanna stay?? Ok, if he’s not traded then we collect a draft pick for him.. and move on. your negotiations skill must be horrible if you claim that his leverage is that he doesn’t wanna stay.. Very lame
And right on que…..
What if he doesn’t want to stay? You gotta trade him in December while the acquiring team can still get a draft pick unless he provides an extension window.
There’s no way they can come up with a plan this winter that will satisfy Wright AND Dickey. With no $$$ that leaves only the trade mkt and they’re our only real chips. Sure we should see what Neise, Davis and Tejada would bring back but have to start somewhere with “core” players.
Well, they could lay out a plan and there are ways to get around not having money this off-season. It just depends on if the Mets actually see that player as a future piece to the puzzle and if that player wants to be in NY. I have given the example of BJ Upton. You could offer him 6M the first year followed by 14M, 10M, 10M to get to your 4/40. That is always a two way street though. The Mets have to think he is a good fit and he has to want to be here.
I agree gary….
There is no way they can convince anyone we are going to be winning anytime soon.
Which is why I say they will have to offer Wright a 5-7 year contract to at least give him the shot at retiring a Met (one of his desires) and Dickey at least a 4 or 5 year deal.
If they do they can at least sell them on something happening in a year or two (Bay and Santana’s contracts gone) that will let them be aggressive again in FA and possibly building a winner around Wright, Davis, Harvey, Wheeler and Dickey by 2015.
Then you might convince them to stay knowing thier careers are pretty much set to near retirement.
Hi Gary,
I agree with your scenario about them simply not having the money and thus trading both David and R.A. when they can.
I suspect they might be trying to prepare the fan base for such since last week the broacaster on SNY were talking about whether it would be in the Mets best interests to trade both players when they can get something in return.
I could be wrong but it seems that they are already planting the seed in our heads.
If he doesn’t wanna stay?? GOod Riddance!
LOL, “Uh yeah, I am not bias at all….”
Seriously Alex, I just don’t get it. I realize that you don’t think he is a HOF or “clutch” etc but what is the reason for the vile venomous attacks?
Excuse me?? How is that vile?? isn’t that the same thing a bunch of people in this very site said when reyes left? how come i didn’t see you posting on their comments in here or saying anything about that? it’s al me right? Jesus man, the need of you replying to me is kinda weird, if a player does not wanna be with the mets then WHAT WOULD YOU SAY!?!?!?!?
Exactly Alex…..The David Wright double standard is alive and well. TRS wont reply to you because he was caught red handed with his hands in the cookie jar. This is the same thing that was said about Reyes…..”Good Riddance” and no one not even TRS called it vile.
Again, showing that the main reason for your distaste of Wright has and will always be that he took the lime light away from your boy. You let others create your opinion of a Mets player. Nice job.
TRS,
Wow nice way to deflect TRS….1st you claimed what he said was vile then Alex pulled your card…and now your changing your tune and saying he took the limelight away from his boy???lol…comical….What limelight??? Hate to say it but the only baseball limelight in NY resides in the bronx with Jeter.
Is it possible that Alex wasnt persuaded by anyone and just thinks Wright is overrated and he used the Reyes situation to prove what he was saying was far from vile but just his “OPINION”….as others had about Reyes…Amazing
That could be if he hadn’t been doing it for about 4 years and have admitted that a primary reason he doesn’t like Wright is how he is treated by media and fans and how they treated Jose.
Again, you didn’t answer my question, if a player don’t wanna be with the mets, what exactly would you say to that player? I didn’t even see you around calling people vile etc when reyes left here and people were saying all kinds of stuff about him etc, hell, even an article was written the next day how that was the right move and thank god we got FFF, Rauch and Ramirez. Not a single peep from you, but as soon as i say the same about your golden boy then i’m vile and venemous.. SMH
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Did I get it all?
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Now we got it all out haven’t we?
Yeap, just don’t come crying when we attack back at you, Your desert and your lady for being disrespectful ok? You bitch enough about what we do yet you show the littlest respect towards others as well.. I can take it, just make sure you can handle it as well without the constant begging for us to be respectful. just letting you know
Not sure where that was disrespectful. I just stated what you yourself have said many times. Your dislike of Wright has foundations in the fact that you believe there is a double standard towards him and Reyes and because the fans and media seem to give him a pass. It’s not like I am stating something you haven’t said before.
Thus because of Reyes being slighted you developed a hatred for one of the best and perhaps statistically the best positional player the Mets have ever produced. I loved both of them and never understood the need to tear one down to bring another up. I also never got why you expected Mets fans on a Mets sight not to get upset when you constantly berate a guy that they consider a great Met.
HAHAHA Thats not an attack or disrespectful right?
Then you should not complain about my post!
I guess that moratorium on me was merely so you could focus your attacks on Alex who you think you might have a better chance at making a point with!
Wrong again, the only reason you and a few think i hate the guy is because i called them 4 years ago UNCLUTCH.. then it developed into something it’s not. the kid is a good kid i am sure, nice guy, good looking guy, but he’s not what mets fans (Me included) thought he was. we all thought he was the next Jeter with POWER, yet all we got is a decent/good player, and if you throw the last 4 years which, shockingly from 25-29 they have been so so if you ask me. The double standard is clear, it has nothing to do with reyes, what amazes me is that someone like you cannot see in a mirror what you accuse me of doing all the time, when reyes left people blasted him and went on to say asinine comments after asinine comments about one of the best player this franchise has had, however, when the same is been said about IF wright leaves, you jump out the water to defend wright to no end and call me and others haters etc. How pathetic is that? where we were when reyes was getting blasted for leaving? why the wright situation will be different? tell me what’s different about wright and reyes?
When reyes left, it was good riddance, he didn’t wanna be a met, he’s this and that, but when i said that if wright doesn’t wanna be a met good riddance to him as well you came out blazing your guns at me.. where were you when the reyes detractors were blasting him??? wouldn’t you consider that DOUBLE STANDARD????
But yet again, it all goes right back to how you think Reyes was treated unfairly and that causes your hatred for Wright. You show it in every post. I think you honestly think you are getting people back for their feelings on Reyes by returning it on Wright. That makes no sense whatsoever. Each player and situation is unique. So in turn you are calling out Wright because someone else called out Reyes and you feel there is a double standard. You have said it from day one.
With young 3rd basemen like Machado, Moustakas, Middlebrooks, Olt, and Lawrie, it’s not like
It’s not like Wright is irreplaceable.*
If Wright leaves who will be the face of the Mets??? IKE??? He doesnt have the boy band look and his kinda unkempt and he doesnt have Wrights soft Michael Jackson-esque voice….baseball has everything to do with looks and bringing in the female teenie boppers….Mets need a Justin Beiber
I’m looking hard for that sarcasm icon. I think I see it, but not quite sure…
I’m betting no. Not the Coeur’s style.
“Mets need a Justin Bieber”
*shudders* I’m not gonna even touch that one…
Justin Bieber is way too poppy….we need someone who can sing the blues!
I agree with you on your point JoeD that if Wright doesn’t return/resign with Mets then that means continued dark days ahead for this team waiting on “other” prospects to be ready and hope that a decent Major League bat falls in their lap.
I want only one thing from this FO, state the plan going forward with some specifics, not vague comments or hopes because fans, as myself will buy the lies for only a short time plus with the AS Game coming here in 2013 this franchise does not want to be fielding a team that is stagnant with no plan for future vs Royals who despite being under .500 you could see them moving forward AND owner vowing to add what is needed.
I want David to return, at a good fit for him and Mets but it eventually comes down to what FO tells him in off season because he will not negotiate during 2013f season if they p/u his option.
I don’t even need the specifics from them Sarge…
Just a date or a timeline set as opposed to this constant moving of the calendar fence 2013, no 2014, no 2015 check that 2016….
Truth is though I think if they have another season like this one again next year it really won’t matter what thier plan is because they won’t be around to implement it.
After next year they won’t need Sandy to cut the remaining payroll just about any GM could do it!
Santana and Bay are off the books and the job of beancounting will be done.
The only thing that could be left for a GM to do is to fix the reduced revenue problem they should have worked on before now!
Cause increasing revenue is the way to fix all of our problems, cutting loose three All Stars only made it worse than it had to be!
Agree with your premise, but what’s to say that wasn’t the plan all along, and if it was, it’s obvious why they wouldn’t spell it out to anyone.
It sure COULD have been the plan….
But what does it make all that stuff we heard about good cheap signings, Winning baseball, Track Records, Good Job as a GM we have had all these fights over?
Plain and total bull!
And a lot of people will have severe case of Omlet face for helping play this trick and making excuses for these actions to the fans wouldn’t you say?
I get mistaken for a guy who hates Sandy when I could care less about him I’m just not dumb enough to think he is making this team better when all he is doing is making it cheaper.
My biggest arguments are against those who come here and try to make it all sound like GOLD STAR moves which insults my intelligence!
It’s not the moves that concern me as much as the few Propagandists who try and play them off as good baseball when it is clear it is anything but!
Hi Heybatter,
What Metsie says makes perfect sense and when looked at it in that context, one can understand the moves that were made starting with the signing of inexpensive players (Sandy’s own description) to the ridding ourselves of still productive players of all-star quality to making no moves to strengthen a team so the players would not at least feel as if they were kicked in the teeth to signing the least amount of draft picks other than the Pittsburgh Pirates and not even negotiating a $60,000 difference between the Mets and one of their two number two draft picks (number 75 in the entire country). And that doesn’t include the ten percent cut in non-roster operating expenses, a total re-organization of the business structure or negotiating with creditors the terms of paying back their debt obligations.
That was the plan to begin with and as many of us have suggested, the Wilpons could not advertise it as such and thus the public relations blitz about Sandy and his vision to offset it.
As you will notice, many in MMO who had faith in Sandy as a baseball person are now having second thoughts and just as many are starting acknowledge that his role might have had to do with developing an economic plan that would allow the Wilpons to still retain ownership. I know somebody who share his own Met blog with a friend of mine who had a strong allegiance to the moves Sandy was making, seeing them as part of a long-term rebuilding plan but now admits he too has second thoughts. His own feeling is that Sandy started out with this vision and then discovered how bad the Mets economic situation was. At least he’s meeting me half-way now.
I would be shocked if David is re-signed for this will signal both a long-term financial commitment because Sandy always reminds us how teams can be burned by such agreements AND that it means that David’s own assessment of the future looks good as far as him playing on a winner. Not to mention his own stance on keeping the payroll at most at the $100 million level. Considering that includes meeting the financial obligations already on the books for Bay and Santana (what is it, about $45 million between them?) that means around $55 million left for everybody else. If he does re-sign both David and R.A. that will mean the amount left for the rest of the team would be about……, oh well, we can then do all the arithmetic.
I wonder how Sandy can analyze the complex metrics he talked about last night yet cannot understand simple arithmetic. That’s where the credibility gap again comes into question.
I agree with you on your point JoeD that if Wright doesn’t return/resign with Mets then that means continued dark days ahead for this team”
I am sorry, but aren’t we LIVING in dark days with him on the team???? You telling me we can not get a 3rd baseman who can hit 20 HR and 80 RBI even on the market?? by trade or even FA?
Just to state my point even more here’s all 3rd baseman with good/solid numbers during the 2012 season:
Cabrera 331 42 133
Beltre 316 35 98
Ramirez 300 25 98
Freese 296 20 80
Zimmerman 286 24 96
Chris Johnson 284 15 75
Headley 281 29 108
AROD 275 18 56
Seager 260 18 80
Mustakas 245 20 70
Pedro Alvarez 242 29 81
youk 250 19 58
Frazier 264 18 64
Middlebrooks 288 15 54
Chipper 294 14 61
Longoria 288 13 49
Eric chavez 288 14 34
Sandovak 288 12 60
Thank you…
Well Alex your kind of killing your argument there…
If there are so many guys out there that can do what Wright does then why would anyone give you anything for him?
And if they won’t why trade him at all?
How many of those guys who have those numbers would put them up in the cavern known as CitiField?
My point is metsie, the guy is not worth what he’d be asking #1, and #2 if he says he doesn’t wanna stay with the team, GOOD RIDDANCE, and to quote one person in here when reyes left: “it’s not as if we anything with him anyways”
Well we don’t know what he is asking for just yet….
I think the years are the key not the per year money but we won’t know till they activate the option and work on an extention to know exactly if thats true.
But take another look at that list and tell me what those guys are asking for roughly the same amount of performance somewhere else that may not be repeatable here.
I mean A-Rod makes a ton more than Wright is likely to ask for.
And how many of those guys on the list can actually be gotten?
He’s not worth what he’d be asking for…………
Insightful, you know what he’s asking for?
this is 2012. Gm’s don’t look at average, home runs, and rbi anymore.
Yep which is how we wound up trading Pagan for two stiffs!
Funny that 3 of those 3rd baseman were drafted under Sandy’s watch. Chavez, Headley and Freese
are you sure that wasn’t under Elanor Rigby?
if they gvie him enough money, he will stay. Case closed. If they don’t he will leave. Also, the subtle shots at Reyes in these articles is laughable. “The later is having a great year”. Beltran had a great first half and has tanked down the stretch as he battles injuries. Reyes on the other hand, as John likes to point out is injury prone. Oh wait , He has played just about every game and ranks third in the majors in WAR among shortstops. Not good enough i guess…..
Boy,
John Delcos does love him some David Wright it seems like every article he posts is regarding David Wright. I’d rather focus on re-signing R.A. Dickey over Wright.
don’t sweat it leroy the whole Wright thing comes to a head in a couple of months.
They will take the option and then have until Spring Training starts to either resign him or not.
If he isn’t signed by then they are trading him.
And the issue will be done!
Do you promise? lol
Yep cause Sandy couldn’t sign anyone worth more than 7 Mil per…
He just can’t do it!
R.A. pitches every 5th day.David plays every day.How many 3rd basemen have the Mets gone through in their history? Sign David and show your fan base that you really care about loyalty.If they don’t,name me a free agent who would be willing to come here? After all didn’t Sandy already mention that it’s going to be a quiet off-season? If we strengthen the bullpen in the off-season then maybe we have a shot at the wildcard.
R.A. pitches every 5th day.David plays every day.How many 3rd basemen have the Mets gone through in their history? Sign David and show your fan base that you really care about loyalty.If they don’t,name me a free agent who would be willing to come here?
he doesn’t need a NTC from the mets really. Very soon into the deal he would be a 10/5 guy anyway.
So, IMO, you can make valid arguments either way to keep (extend) him or trade him. And there is not a clear cut answer.
what I hope, in terms of loyalty, being a good guy, thinking of the fans, etc? That he decides early on and tells the team. Especially if he really wants to move on. Instead of stringing them along, trying to have his cake and eat it too (using the mets basically as a bargaining chip), just have an honest conversation with the FO, and give them a take it or trade me offer (if he even wants to put up the take it part). And of course, don’t announce to the media!
that way, Sandy will know that he needs to be traded, and can just get on with doing that and making plans around it.
the worst case for both sides is pretending he might sign, just wants to wait a little, yada yada, then bailing anyway like Reyes did with little return.
The Mets never made Jose an offer so how can you say that? Rather if management knew they were not going to be able to re-sign him why didn’t they trade him before the deadline?
because you can’t trade a guy that depends on his legs who is on the DL with a bad hammy. Or when he comes back and is obviously still hobbled.
A hammy that never healed the rest of the season, hence the disappearance of his running game in August and September.
it was obvious to anyone watching a game that he was still hobbled by it. I remember thinking that every time he tried to run that he was about to blow out the hammy again.
GKR mentioned it nightly – how he wasn’t stealing bases and he wasn’t taking the extra base on long hits.
If they had that crystal ball, they could have traded him before 3 July when he left that Yankee game hurt, then went on the DL.
Then again if they did have that crystal ball we wouldn’t be having conversations about what they’ll do with Bay. He never would have been here to begin with.
Then again if you were Reyes, leading for the batting title and approaching a big pay day on a team going no where would you risk that for a meaningless stolen base? He was looking out for himself, as would most.
I could not blame him if he wanted to leave. He may not have the tremendous numbers in recent years, but this guy is a gamer. Wright has done all the things asked of him, and he has not been treated the best by management. If he stays I will be happy, if he leaves sad but I understand.
Pick up his option and trade him in the offseason…it’s the only option with Wright. He will be 31 after next season, will he or The Mets really be interested in a long-term agreement together? This team is going nowhere for at least the next 3-5 seasons…Wright isn’t an idiot, he knows this. Do everyone a favor and trade him for 2 good prospects (Nolan Arenado and Wilin Rosario, preferably…toss Mejia and Duda into this deal).
Sorry, Rockies are already rebuilding and said they were happy with their in house options. They really don’t need one year of Wright”
Rosario is another by-product of Coorsfield who’s numbers a weak on the road and Arenado is a nice but slightly overrated prospect who hits in hitters leagues and is avg otherwise. I can’t see Colorado trading 2 young under control players for one year of David Wright. Makes no sense for them.
Agreed, which is why that rumor of a deal that was bantered around but had not one official source was just that… a rumor.
We can always move Daniel Murphy to 3rd base and save 15 million.
Hey – a position where Flores can play!
Very simple answer to your question. Make your best offer and set a December 1 deadline for him. If you dont have an agreement, trade him for one of those young catchers that seem to be available in Colorado, San Diego or Toronto. Move Murphy back to third base, and go get a second baseman or give Spin a full shot until Flores is ready.
I think Flores will be more suited to 3B but yeah you are right. If they don’t reach an agreement by the winter meetings gotta cut bait so you can make plans for life without him. Besides his trade value during the off-season will be at a peak because the acquiring team can still get draft-picks back where they can’t for a mid-season trade.
Since David will be set financially for life no matter how much or how little he signs for, money itself won’t be the main issue. It will be where playing baseball can be fun once again instead.
If we as fans find Citi Field to be a morgue, imagine how the players must feel. I see him wanting to go for the bond he has with the fans can’t be expected to be strong enough to keep him here. It wouldn’t for any of us if we were in his position right now either.
That’s how bad this organization has become thanks not to any vision about building for a future but the vision of having the name Wilpon remain on the door to the executive office.
I love David Wright as much as any but yeah money will still be an issue. I couldn’t tell you the last time a guy signed a big deal that money had nothing to do with it. Obviously don’t bring up Cliff Lee because that has been disproven many times. He took the money as well.
He will have less value for the mets than any team because by not signing they get draft picks as compensation. Let him go. Reyes is gone and that didn’t hurt the team at all.
David Wright will be playing 3rd base for the Phillies, Yankees or Orioles in 2014.