Mets and Marlins Discussed A Jason Bay For Heath Bell Swap

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• Mr North Jersey August 1, 2012 at 6:00 pm

  What I would of given to see the reaction in Miami if this trade had happened.
• gary s. August 1, 2012 at 6:16 pm

  Heath Bell would have flipped out if that went down.He hates the Mets for using him as a human yo yo years ago
  • Sloatsburg Mets Fan August 1, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    I think that was more old regime and specifically Rick Peterson. I think.
• Even Flow August 1, 2012 at 6:39 pm

  Wow, the Marlins are dumber than I thought. Never been fond of Buck, but I’d still take Bell, even in a bad year.
• Pat August 1, 2012 at 7:00 pm

  Interesting, Buck and Bay can’t hit but as a cheap backup i’d take buck. Bell could easily bounce back. The bullpen is a crap shoot anyways why not?
• Mikey August 1, 2012 at 7:01 pm

  This is one instance where I’d rather keep Bay.
  • Mr North Jersey August 1, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    What? You go stand in the corner for 15 minutes and think about what you just said.
    • jessep August 1, 2012 at 7:18 pm

      To be honest, as bad as Heath Bell’s been – he’s been bad for 4 months. Bay’s been dreadful for 3 years. If the Mets actually convinced somebody to take Jason Bay off their team they should build a statue outside of Citi Field for whoever gets that deal done
      • Mikey August 1, 2012 at 7:37 pm

        As awful as Bay has been (and continues to be), he hasn’t pulled any of Heath Bell’s antics. Plus, all of Bell’s anti-Met rhetoric over the last few years has really annoyed me. Dude, you were a mediocre middle-reliever with a weight problem and two pitches, only one of which was any good. Guys get yanked around all the time and you don’t hear them yelling their heads off in the press.

        The Marlins complete and utter failure this season has been an absolute joy to behold.
        • jessep August 1, 2012 at 8:33 pm

          Mikey – You’re not wrong. I think Bell is a fabulous example of why you don’t pay closers a ton of money and I enjoy every bit of failure he has in that uniform.

          But – if the Mets could get anybody to take Jason Bay even for a penny – I’d consider it a steal.

          Knowing people here though when Bay turns it around in Miami they’d walk with pitchfork in hand to Citi Field and blame Alderson for trading such a valuable player!
      • Joey D. August 1, 2012 at 8:14 pm

        LOL.

        You know Jessep, you might be right about that statue!
      • METS62FAN August 2, 2012 at 10:13 am

        JESS, KEEP IN MIND JEFF LORIA IS UNTRUSTWORTHY S I PRESUME HE IS THE INSTIGATOR BEHIND THIS RUMORED ALMOST DEAL DESPITE HIS LUDICROUS PRETENSION AS A “BIG TIME SPENDING OWNER” THIS PAST OFFSEASON, THE INNER 3 CARD MONTE DEALER WITHIN HIS SOUKLESS BODY EARMARKS A TRADING PARTNER ALDERSON WOULD DO WELL TO AVOID.
        ROSENTHAL’S DISMISAL OF THE NEARLY $9M EXTRA TO BE ASSUMED BY NYM IS TYPICAL OF THE LOWBROW REPORTING HE’S NOTED FOR.
• 86mets August 1, 2012 at 7:26 pm

  Bay vs Foster as worst FA LF ever? Bay, hands down. At least Foster slugged over .400 with the Mets (.422) whereas Bay isn’t even close (.376). Foster also out hit him as well (.252 to .240). Would I have made this trade? You bet! Bell has been awful as has Buck, but sometimes a change of scenery can help. Oh, wait…..this would have been an all “B’s” trade (Bay for Bell & Buck). No significance to that but it’s interesting that all 3 struggling players last names begin with B. Must be a bad year for the letter B!
• larman August 1, 2012 at 7:40 pm

  This trade should have happened,. why cause bay really sucks, that’s why the mets gave up on him the first time, we all felt since at the time bay was the hitter to get, but the not money at all. The mets management should have done better at that moment to get someone else to play for them. This is why the owners suck so bad with our team, they don’t want us too, they don’t want us to be winners i get it now, this trade should have happened. I’m sorry bay is striking out too much with runners in scoring postion, can’t find his swing to save himself, needs to leave to do that. I feel bad for the guy, but common on now. What’s wrong with this picture is the owners fault, and they need to go, GO OUT OF TOWN AND LET OUR METS HAVE OWNERS WHO REALLY CARE FOR US FANS.
• Matt August 1, 2012 at 7:47 pm

  I like Bell, even in an awful year. But we only have Bay for another year – Bell we’d have for two more beyond that. Still….its interesting.
  • larman August 1, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    ow can any one like bay, i mean as a hitter no what has he done in two in a half seasons, oh yeah get hurt over and over and overagain, Besides the mets coulld have made the deal and by next season we would see how bell would be in ex- games before the start of the season. In a way bay is a nice guy, but as a ball player now forget it.
• oleosmirf August 1, 2012 at 8:24 pm

  This trade would have actually made the Mets take on payroll, which shouldnt be a factor.

  What was a factor is that the Marlins couldn’t simply be THAT dumb…
• Donal August 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm

  Bell is being paid like a front line starter for the next 4 years. Bay will be gone by June 1 of next year.

  Relievers are the most over valued players in baseball and closers are the worst of that.

  I can stomach a bad hitter for the next few months. I have reason to believe Bell will get better at 35+.
  • Nice batter August 1, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Bell has 2 years left on his contract.
    • Matt August 1, 2012 at 11:08 pm

      Yeah, end of the day you do not do this deal. We’ll be rid of Bay soon enough. Well, not soon enough, but in a year.
    • Donal August 2, 2012 at 7:00 am

      I was counting this year, but I missed that 2015 is a team option unless he hits some performance benchmarks.

      Considering how that benchmark is most likely saves, which are more dependent on the team’s success than his production, I still wouldn’t take the chance.