Harvey Hits A Wall In Mets 7-3 Loss To Padres

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• Mitch Petanick August 5, 2012 at 7:52 pm

  They have to let Harvey go out there and pitch like they did in his first start.
  • Russell Zanca August 5, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Not sure I get this argument, Mitch–are you saying management is telling him to throw a change up rather than a FB in a given spot? Johnson calls the game, no? Been catching him all year. If Harvey doesn’t want to throw a given pitch, then he shakes battery mate off.

    I felt Harvey made some bad pitching choices, and just didn’t have what he showed in first tow starts, but if you know something better than I, then please explain.
    • Mitch Petanick August 5, 2012 at 8:10 pm

      I think they are forcing him to throw more change ups, and these younger pitchers are not always given the freedom to shake off catchers. I don’t think I saw Harvey shake off his catcher at all during that game.
      • Russell Zanca August 5, 2012 at 9:35 pm

        Never heard of a pitcher told he can’t shake off a catcher’s signs from Little League all the way up. That’s bizarre if true. If you have evidence, I’d love to hear it.
        • mitch petanick August 5, 2012 at 10:18 pm

          Here’s your evidence Mr. Zanca http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120704&content_id=34450588&notebook_id=34458320&vkey=notebook_chc&c_id=chc
          • Russell Zanca August 5, 2012 at 10:50 pm

            Thanks. With Marmol…LOL!
      • Squidoo August 5, 2012 at 9:51 pm

        Actually Mitch, you are onto something. After Harvey pitched that great first game, I read a comment from Warthen who said he wished Harvey could have thrown more changeups. I remember thinking it was such an odd thing to say.
  • Even Flow August 5, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Wanna do that? Keep Warthen FAR away from this kid.
• Russell Zanca August 5, 2012 at 7:53 pm

  Wright is now helping to kill us offensively. Don’t know what he’s batting over last month, but my guess would be about .230. Yikes!

  Sucha shame to lose this series. 6-5 road trip good, but not when we end things on such a fizzle.

  Ramirez (es), Torres, Bay, Thole, Johnson–the Expendables!
  • jessep August 5, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    I have to think Bay is done now. They said for how long that they would “evaluate” him after this series.

    In a perfect world you’d like to see him accept a minor league assignment and maybe go figure something out, but not at the expense of the big league club.

    But you can’t get told “this may be your final shot” and then hit .133 for the week.

    He’s such a negative energy for the team, he literally brings nothing. He looks defeated and that has to rub off on the entire team.
    • Amazin August 5, 2012 at 8:01 pm

      Hey, you know Jason Bay’s play is about identical to your posts.
• Joey D. August 5, 2012 at 10:48 pm

  It will be a good lesson for Harvey and probably one that all pitchers need go through during their maturation process. Not only was he hit hard but he was hit hard by the weak hitting Padres in probably the best pitching haven in the majors.

  The maturation process on the major league level is only taking it’s first steps. Very few come up and have the immediate dominating impact of a Stausberg, Gooden and Seaver. And sometimes they come up and fool people with premature dominance like a Jaba Chamberlain.
• Francesco August 5, 2012 at 10:58 pm

  Mets should look to trade Cedano
  there gotta be a team out there in need of a short stop
  Pirates?
  no way he gonna be back next season, atleast get something for him
• Francesco August 5, 2012 at 11:01 pm

  Mets should look to trade for
  Jarrod Saltalamacchia
  Chris Perez
  sign BJ Upton to play center
  resign Hairston
• gary s. August 6, 2012 at 12:03 am

  David Wright has been terriffic this year, but he has changed his approach the last 4 weeks.Probably the pressure of losing 14 out of 16 and the embarrassment of another wasted year of his career with this franchise.He is overswinging and striking out at a scary pace the last few weeks.The announcers have pointed this out a number of times the past few weeks.What does the hitting coach get paid to do on this team???
  • Amazin August 6, 2012 at 12:23 am

    The hitting coach? of the Mets? He teaches guys how to take.
• Alex68 August 6, 2012 at 8:09 am

  Since the ASB DW has been hitting only 220, and has struck out 26 times in 82 at bats (98 Plate APP) he clearly is struggling at the plate. Seems like it was a decade ago where he was an MVP candidate and there were post about him hitting 400 etc… Players go trough bad stretches, with Wright throughout his career, when he goes into slumps, they seem to last forever, and when he gets hot nobody can’t get him out.
• Mr North Jersey August 6, 2012 at 12:54 pm

  That triple threat of Lara, Mateo & Robles are looking really good for the Cyclones. If they don’t promote any of them hopefully they can make the playoffs with Brooklyn.
  • Mr North Jersey August 6, 2012 at 12:55 pm

    Apologies that was meant for the Mets Minors post.