Mets Bullpen Fails Again and Again and Again In 5-4 Loss To Nats

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• Mr North Jersey July 17, 2012 at 10:49 pm

  What a punch to the gut. After coming back from 2-0 in the 9th to take a 3-2 lead then to blow it only to once again take a 4-3 lead only to blow it once more and lose 5-4.
  Sigh…

  Parnell, dude how is it that a guy that throws a fastball as hard as you struggles to make bats miss? I’m pulling for you but you just are not a closer. Maybe you need the Heath Bell treatment with a trip to S.D. you can be a great closer over there but here in NY you are just not cutting it.

  The one guy I expected to get his batter out Byrdak vs Harper and even that doesn’t happen as Harper ropes a ball over Hairston’s head.
  Sigh…

  Props to Niese for finally breaking the string of bad starts with a great performance and Valdespin continues to get big hits. Don’t know if he will eventually start to be figured out and struggle similar to Capt Kirk of late but Collins you need to ride the hot bat for now.

  Need to find a way to end what is now officially the longest losing streak of the season, 5 games with Young on the hill 2morrow.

  LGM!
  • Mex_17 July 17, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    Young is godawful. We have 3 decent starting pitchers, 2 mop up men masquerading as starters, and an entire bullpen full of arsonists. Aaron Heilman laughs at this bullpen.

    Our season ended tonight, the rest are exhibition games.
  • Mr North Jersey July 18, 2012 at 12:00 am

    Also wanted to note those last 2 at bats Hairston had was just painful along with leaving a runner at 3rd with no outs that 1 inning. In 1 at bat he swung at a ball thrown up to his neck.
• oleosmirf July 17, 2012 at 10:49 pm

  Terry did everything right in this one too. It’s a shame the bullpen is costing them any chance for meaningful games in September.

  The playoffs were never happening, but meaningful September baseball would have been nice again…
  • Amazin July 17, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    Well, it doesn’t matter what moves Terry makes, because when the GM gives you a bullpen of stars like this one, every move comes out the same.
  • gorgeguy July 17, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    I disagree on Terry Collins job, other than having Valdespin hit for Bay (who should be should be D.F.A. B.T.W.).

    Bad decision #1) There was no reason to pull Ramirez for Edgin…. no reason other than the vogue lefty vs. lefty situation. Jerry Manuel totally burned out Feliciano with this must-have strategy. They pinch hit and voila! Another run!

    Bad decision #2) Why not have Rauch close the game instead of …. the vogue lefty/lefty thing again!!! He has more toughness than most in the pen and he actually has some closer experience. Yes, he’s not tremendous, but Byrdak + Beato to close???? Lousy call!

    Horrible, horrible loss. Only good side is that either Broxton or Street may be on his way by tonight and that Nickeas showed he can absolutely not hit. Hard to say if it was his game-calling that resulted in Niese’s solid effort but the Nats were probably pretty tired too.
• mikey July 17, 2012 at 10:50 pm

  I never thought a bullpen could look as lousy as the 07-08 models, but this current pigpen is just insane. Seriously. Send ALL OF THEM down to the minors. Anyone they replace them with can’t be worse.
• Mex_17 July 17, 2012 at 11:08 pm

  There were “positives to take away from this game”? Um…We’ve given away the past 4-5 crucial games against division rivals, with the worst bullpen in MLB. Maybe one of the worst bullpens, ever.

  We’ve plummeted in one week from “maybe playoffs” down to the level of the Marlins, who are already waving a white flag and selling off all their players.

  The only positive to come from this game is now I have free time to do yard work instead of wasting my time imagining the Mets could make the playoffs, and watching every game.

  My tomatoes are looking good. I need to water my peppers. The Mets? Who? Oh yeah, I watched them up through June. See you in April 2013. At least we got the no-hitter finally, that was all we got out of 2012.
• sarge69 July 17, 2012 at 11:13 pm

  He had him set up for another curvet but had to flash the heater, huh?

  This game was just like the game we lost Sat in Atlanta when the BP did the same thing to the team.
  How many times can you run this same group, Byrdak, Beato, Ramirez, Rauch, Parnell, FF and now Edgin and hope that they can get 3 outs w/o allowing a base runner?

  Is it the pitch selection by bench? Pitch location by bench or catcher and pitcher?

  Previous post on this site extolled the virtues of above mentioned BP arms and wouldn’t you know it the SUPPOSED reliable part of BP blows the game, TWICE, just like in Atlanta.

  What can be done? This is the BP you have been handed and unless Mets bats score another 10-16 runs per game to allow for expected runs allowed by BP then what do you do?
  We were getting around this before because starters were going late into game, 7th-9th innings but now R.A. seems to have hit a wall as has Johan and unless Young’s start was a fluke then we are in for a long week especially with Batista going Sat against the bravos.

  Wow, we are going to have to bring out the bats early and continously against Zimmerman and hope that BP can get 3-6 outs after a good outing by Young.

  Sad, sad loss and I wonder what the FO ultimate strategy has been all along, especially when they saw Bay struggling out of the gate and the BP blowing games in late June that all we heard was, “yes we will be in the market, BUT, we can’t get pricey relief help,” I feel, maybe wrong, that this FO was, as we all were, surprised by this team and the job TC was doing and that they figured that with Ramirez, FF and Rauch added that it would be sufficient but this strategy did not work.

  Boy where has Byrdak, the automatic LH hitter specialist gone?
  He has allowed more hits and walks than he should and his LH specialty has gone out the window with this BP.

  Sheesh, having to depend on Young to give us a good start tomorrow is not made for a good sleep.
  • gorgeguy July 17, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Byrdak is burning out. He has been used just like Felciano where the manager just has to have a lefty vs. lefty thing. Righties can get lefties out too! Isn’t that what starters have to do every stinking game!
• Joey D. July 17, 2012 at 11:29 pm

  Anybody notice Torres didn’t even put up a beef when called out on a play at first that he was clearly safe? Even though he would have lost the argument, after I thought I saw all the things one can do to contribute to a loss, I never thought I’d see a Met just let an umpire make a bad call without even a whimper of a protest. Guess Torres can’t even tell when he’s safe – or our first base coach for the matter.

  Only three words can describe what I feel about out bullpen and you guys know what they are… Just thought of two more obvious wordsto add to those – “Sandy” and “Alderson”.

  Love the reference to Heilman.
  • Fonzie13 July 18, 2012 at 12:40 am

    I thought it was strange that both Goodwin and Collins didn’t go ballistic with that call being blown like that. I couldn’t believe Torres was called out on that and another thing that shows is how you should always bust it down the line. That was a routine groundball that Lombardozzi took for granted and Torres busted down the line the entire way and was clearly safe. Most guys on our team and especially the leader of the team never bust out of the box like that.
• Squidoo July 17, 2012 at 11:34 pm

  Rauch, Parnell, Byrdak, Beato FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Fonzie13 July 18, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Don’t forget Ramirez too. They all suck, it’s pathetic.
• tlagee July 17, 2012 at 11:37 pm

  Hate to face Davy Johnson – the guy is incredible between the white lines.

  Bottom of the ninth, man on first with one out. Tejada was in perfect position for a hard grounder that would have been a DP and ended the game – except for one thing – Davy called a hit and run – the runner took off, Tejada left his spot to cover second and the batter hit it right where Ruben had been standing. No hit and run and that could very well have ended the game with a Mets’ victory.

  Proud of the way the boys fought back. Bullpen is dreadful. I had a sick feeling in both the bottom of the ninth and the bottom of the tenth. Absolutely no confidence.

  Parnell is a talented pitcher with no stomach for closing.
  • Mr North Jersey July 17, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    “Proud of the way the boys fought back”

    This.
  • Joey D. July 18, 2012 at 12:08 am

    Hi Tl,

    Have to agree with you about Johnson – he is incredible between the white lines.

    Probably because he has the latest Ipad in the dugout and uses saber metrics to make his decisions for him. Hey, with all the bad pitching decisions Terry has made, perhaps the sabers are on to something after all!
• Bryan July 17, 2012 at 11:49 pm

  Hey did we get Terry Collins that contract extension yet?
  • Mr North Jersey July 18, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Ha!

    Now would be a good time to duck.
• Hitman July 17, 2012 at 11:50 pm

  Can we PLEASE dump this clown Parnell for someone with the testicular fortitude to actually gut it out in big situations?

  Mets management, you BETTER be willing to burn the midnight oil and be on the phones for RELIEF. NO MORE WAITING!
  • Mr North Jersey July 18, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Parnell for Huston Street? Look how good the last reliever we sent them did. Parnell could prob break all of Bell’s records in S.D. and he prob won’t complain that the Mets never gave him a shot as well.
    • Hitman July 18, 2012 at 12:12 am

      Did you hear? Street is “too pricey”. What a load of shit!

      SD would probably take up on Parnell. If he succeeds out there, all the sorry fans will go “Why didn’t the Mets hold on to Parnell? They gave up on him too soon”, quickly forgetting nauseating performances he’s given us like tonight, or the one the other day in Atlanta. I said it before, I’ll say it again: I don’t give a rat’s ass if he becomes the next Heath Bell elsewhere, because I will remember how he fared.
      • Fonzie13 July 18, 2012 at 12:31 am

        Yep, like they 2nd guessed the Jeff Kent trade who sucked for nearly 5 years in a Met uniform. Heath Bell didn’t exactly distinguish himself here but you could say he didn’t get a fair shake always being on the Norfolk shuttle.
        • Hitman July 18, 2012 at 12:40 am

          The Jeff Kent thing I always thought it was more of the fact that he was a douchebag than his play, but also true.
        • gorgeguy July 18, 2012 at 8:17 am

          Thanks Fonzie13 for pointing that out. Heath Bell never got the opportunity that Parnell has had. Management, in addition to the fans at that time, always wanted proven stars.

          In terms of Parnell’s performance, he got squeezed on the very first 2 calls from the ump. Both of those pitches could have easily been called strikes as they were on the black. Add that to that lame call at first (where Andres was safe by a full step), and I’d say that the umps are determined to cement the Mets’ fate.

          Nonetheless, Bobby has been good in the 7th and 8th so unless San Diego really wants him for Street, there’s no reason to just give him away. Much of his struggles seems to revolve around location of the fastball and its straightness. In the 7th/8th inning jobs he performed earlier in the season, he seemed to locate his pitches better and got a lot of grounders.
• Kymets July 18, 2012 at 12:06 am

  Who else can throw 100 and be hit as hard ad bobby Parnell
• Pete July 18, 2012 at 12:16 am

  You got to feel for Terry Collins.Knowing in his heart his bullpen sucks to the point no matter how well the starters do the pigpen will find a way to blow the game.I said before Bobby Parnell is not a closer.He doesn’t have the guts or confidence to get batters out.Opposing players can sense it. All good hitters can catch up to a fastball.He need’s a second pitch to offset hitters just sitting there waiting for a mistake location.Maybe Johan can teach him a change-up? If not he needs a change of scenery.We’re not going anywhere again this year with this bullpen.So why not try R.A. for one or two batters,He can’t do any worse than we have now.Besides throwing 10-20 pitches isn’t going to have an adverse affect on his next start.Let’s think outside the box and see what we can come up with.Getting retreads from other teams does.t solve the Met’s problems.
• Joey D. July 18, 2012 at 2:02 am

  Well, the kids did their best again. Twice came from the dead to take the lead only to again have the bullpen destroy all their fine efforts.

  But there is now a problem that Sandy’s friend Bud Selig has created that puts Sandy and other general managers into what I believe could be detrimental to a team that is caught in the middle of what Fonzie and others have disagreed upon, regarding the position of the Mets last season, with Metsie, myself, etc. We felt they were ready to compete if not with a bit of help then at least by keeping the team in tact while the opposing side said that their future laid ahead of them and it was more important we get what we could for players like KRod and Beltran than trying to bank on an upset.

  What is the problem now? It’s the second wild-card.

  Almost any team with a .500 record can have a reasonable shot for the fifth position. There are really only a handful of teams in each league right now that one could truly say are completely out of it. So that puts the pressure on a general manager going all out as possible (and reasonable) to win despite the odds being quite against them and becoming a buyer and possibly jeopardizing a team’s future. The Mets did that in 2004.. So, without the second wild-card many teams who could otherwise continue concentrating on the future now have to seriously worry about the backlash from fans coming down on the front office for not doing anything. So I am apt to almost believe that the team as it is currently structured, and with the injuries and lousiest bullpen in the majors, should try and see if they could get some promising good, young prospects for Santana.

  Why less hope and considering a stand that I totally disagreed with last season? Well, it actually has everything to do with the points many felt were true about last year and I didn’t.

  It was mentioned that the other teams were much stronger than the Mets and that they would pull away from them, despite the team having played at a 50-37 pace for more than half a year. Well, the fact that they were able to play 13 games over .500 for such a long stretch against tougher competition last season to me, in turn, means that they are much weaker this year, having now played 42-44 against much more mediocre teams since starting off at 4-0. And that includes a major comeback season by Wright and a surprisingly decent one by Santana with Davis back in the lineup a full year.

  So, with a 46-44 record and the playoff system being like it was in 2011, if they had Beltran and KRod repeating their 2011 marks this season, I might very well have considered trading them off for young talent that could help us tremendously in the long term. Last year, no, not for the promise of a Zach Wheeler but this year, yes.

  They were stronger with KRod and Beltran last season even though the kids are showing steady progress now. They are now without those two impact players and the bullpen that Sandy and Paul assembled, this is the worst it has been in quite a long time. We also have a hole in center. I know many will disagree with this but we must give responsibility to those who put us in that position – Sandy for dismantling the club last year and spending a large chunk of money on new core of relievers that can’t as a group even be called mediocre and his one big trade. Other than Beltran, he had those other key players still in his control.

  But Selig and his second wild-card makes that same possible move with Santana even more unpopular and financially much more dangerous than last year because even mediocre teams have a chance for post-season now and the fans won’t stand for a team that sits still.
  This heartbreaking loss is typical of the season and comes directly from Sandy and his people for what they did with the moves they made last summer and over the winter.

  If we still had the pen I wish we did, then I would say no, don’t get rid of Santana and let the team push on like I did last year. But they don’t and thus we might have to make the moves this year that others believed were correct last season. For me, that is a shame for I feel neither had to happen.

  But we can’t change what Sandy did with the team he took over. I think we might be very well better off being sellers, because 1) the five post-season places up for grabs keeps teams like the Mets at a reasonable position to still win one and 2) even though they probably won’t due to injuries and the moves made by the front office, and 3) but won’t for this time the front office probably can’t.

  Again, it wouldn’t be fair to the players or the fans for the front office to throw in the towel and not have faith in it’s players, but if the playoff system was set up as it was last year, probably most of us would be resigned to calling 2012 a season in terms of serious post-season contention.

  What would be fair is to eliminate that stupid fifth wild card slot because that is going to screw up many a genuine effort to rebuild for many clubs down the road, not just us.

  So after all is said and done, what I think was completely outrageous in 2011 might, due to 2011 and the winter that followed, might be the logical next step.

  Two different seasons, two different situations.
  • Joey D. July 18, 2012 at 2:09 am

    …. meant so say in the fourth paragraph from the bottom: “if the playoff system was set up as it was last year, probably most of us would be resigned to NOW calling 2012 a season in terms of serious post-season contention.”
• jdon July 18, 2012 at 5:32 am

  that 2 strike fastball to Morris was an asinine call. he had looked like a little leaguer against Parnell’s curve and should have been given another one. And Darling was right–the fastball to Espinoza had to be up. Bad calls by Thole. Or bad agreements by Parnell. His fastball down in the zone can be 100-it is still a meat ball. Both of those hitters put good wood on it. FAce it—Parnell ain’t much. Got a nice curve now, but velocity alone …? You can have it
  • USMF July 18, 2012 at 8:57 am

    I see two problems with Parnell.

    Problem #1. His fastball is too straight. Guys are sitting on it and just sticking their bats out and letting the velocity of the pitch do all the work. He needs to change his grip and get some movement on the ball. Just a little cut or tail on the ball wold make a big difference.

    Problem #2. Bobby does not throw inside. His Curve is very nice, it’s down the middle but effective. Everyone of his fastballs are away! Guys can’t slap at the fastball that’s inside on them. He’s got to throw inside and keep the hitters from diving out and slapping at it.

    Bobby has a lot of bad luck, but that bad luck is caused by just throwing the ball and not pitching.
• Johnny July 18, 2012 at 6:46 am

  If you dont get relief replacement soon you can find yourself lookin at the playoffs from the cheap seats!! I still have 2007 playoff tickets if anyone is interested, you remember that dont you …the one game failure that caused the Mets the playoffs!!!
  • NJstuckinTX July 18, 2012 at 7:09 am

    Been thinking the same thing. Understand the market is ‘stagnant’, but now is when desperate teams have to start making moves, even if it costs a little more than they would like. I would qualify the Mets as desperate, at this point.
• Alex68 July 18, 2012 at 7:28 am

  I hate to say i told you so…. BUT I TOLD YOU SO….. I am glad most of you are little by little recognzing what Horrendous Job the GM has done for us in 2 consecuitive seasons.
  With that being said, i will give parnell the benefit of the doubt here, had he had an experience good calling catcher instead of thole that ball should’ve been up and in.. I was thinking he had called yet another slider in the dirt when i saw his glove down, instead after throwing 4 consecutives pitches down you’d think thole would call a pitch up and in, but, nope, a FB down, where as a hitter you’d be expecting a ball down again.. Amazing
  TC is not a fault here, after we had the lead again i get what he was doing, we know byrdak sucks, he just has been less sucky than the others, i heard some people calling for rauch?? Really? The man has lost 7 games already this season, so it’s not as if a win was eminet. I think we should be proud of this team STILL, 2 games over 500 is not what many expected on july 18th, but here we are, we believed in this team and got excited etc, too bad the GM has sat on his As$ and did nothing to help an overachieving team get better, but hey, as i said, he’s past his prime and has been overmatched by everyone as a GM….
• Alex68 July 18, 2012 at 7:35 am

  On a side note, the SF giants GM Brian R. Sabean should be EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR, for fooling sandy alderson and dayton moore into taking SF crap this year…
  For absolutely CRAP he’s gotten melky cabrera and angel pagan. the so called players the SF giants gave up have been absolutely garbage, as it was the case for Johnatan Sanchez who was DFA from the royals after Sanchez had a 7.76 ERA in 12 starts with 44 walks and 36 strikeouts in 53 1/3 innings, allowing more than two baserunners per frame
  Ramirez have been marginal at best for us, and of course, that garbage CF we acquired as well..
• Kay July 18, 2012 at 7:39 am

  It’s deja vu all over again, a horrendous bullpen since 2007 and counting………………this is nothing new.

  IT HAS TO CHANGE!!!!!!
  • Alex68 July 18, 2012 at 8:13 am

    Uhhhhh, Excuse me??? Why do you feel the need to take a shot at other bullpen for us?
    In 2007 our bullpen was not this bad,… Not even close, down the stretch i think EVERYONE got tired, it happens… All you doing is defending how bad this bullpen has been by accusing the others of the same… WRONG!!!! last year we were the #4 best BULLPEN in the league in the first half, then, the need of save money for the wilpons sandy DESTROYED what seem to be one of our biggest strengths..
    Here’s the bullpen ERA since 2007
    2007: 22-21 4.03 18 Blown Saves 39 Svs
    2008: 28-28 4.27 28 Blown saves 43 Svs
    2009: 17-28 3.89 21 Blown saves 39 Svs
    2010: 26-27 3.59 16 Blown saves 36 Svs
    2011: 24-27 4.33 24 Blown saves 43 Svs

    Last year we had 17 losses and 14 blown saves after trading Krod…. Not to mention, our bullpen ERA was amongst the best in baseball…. We saved up $17.5 million though…
    • Joey D. July 18, 2012 at 8:35 am

      Hi Alex,

      I hope more will recognize the damage caused by KRod being sent off. No matter what one wants to say, there was no disputing that despite the often hair breath Harry routine, he was an impact player in the bullpen.

      We are in a situation now that we do have to concentrate on re-building and could be out of serious contention for another year or so unless that second wild-card still dangles hope in one’s face and we satisfied with a team that might win 85 games and make it into the post-season each year.

      We weren’t in quite the same situation last season – we were a better team even though in transition but didn’t have to find ourselves in the situation now with a hole in center, the bullpen and bench. Pagan in center, Krod and Issy (and Takahashi from 2010) still in the pen would have made a big difference this year and signing Francisco for a relief role he is better suited for (and same with Parnell) the same.

      If the Mets are broke sort of speak, then yes, we had no choice. If we weren’t and could have sustained these players, then Sandy got his wish by starting nearly from scratch when he could have been on the first or second floor.
    • Alex68 July 18, 2012 at 8:41 am

      Joey D, i get the whole option was a problem, i get all that.. but what was the point of us getting rid of him? to save money we didn’t even use? We still went shopping to the 99 cent store. Not sure what good that did for us last year, our bullpen was solid, hell, parnell had a sub 3 ERA, i think it was 2.80 ERA or something like that, Izzy was good for us in the 8th spot, i mean, things where ok for us… then, it all fell apart after the second half.. And they haven’t been the same since.. Yet, you wonder, who else are we supposed to criticize for that? We killed omar for his acquisiition of the bullpen, why not do the same with alderson? He’s done a terrible job overall in pretty much all the players he has acquired so far… IT’s gotten to the point that bench players are his greatest acquisitions.
    • Kay July 18, 2012 at 12:08 pm

      Are YOU kidding me? How am I defending this bullpen? I said it must change, keep making things up and reading things to fit your agenda. How dare I take a shot at the other bullpens? Really? Why because YOUR lord Omar put them together? There were awful too, especially 08. This current bullpen is HORRENDOUS and must be fixed. Do I need to say that again, or should I give you a chance to twist those words too?

      Did you really write “down the stretch i think EVERYONE got tired, it happens…” I can’t believe what I’m reading. So YOU are now defending them for getting tired. Yet how many times have you brought up DWright’s K for the first out in a tie game in the top of the 9th in one game late in 08 and blamed him for not making the post season? You are consistently inconsistent to fit your agenda.

      The whole bullpen last year went in the tank when KROD left is an empty argument. How many games were blown before the 9th inning. KROD was the closer, he would only have been used in that capacity. So the bullpen blowing games in the 7th, 8th inning had nothing to do with KROD leaving, just an excuse (you know the thing you hate).

      SMH ($1 to Alex68)
      • Joey D. July 18, 2012 at 4:16 pm

        Hi Kay,

        That is true, the pen might not have even pathed the way for KRod. But then, him not being there at the end put pressure on all the others left behind to compensate for someone they couldn’t.
        • Kay July 18, 2012 at 6:37 pm

          Hi Joey – That may well be the case, on paper but that’s an excuse – they are MLB players, they need(ed) to step up. To blame SA that the bullpen tanked because KRod was traded seems empty to me (as I said above), what if, KRod had gotten hurt and was gone the remainder of the year?
          • Joey D. July 18, 2012 at 11:34 pm

            Hi Kay,

            Injury is one part of the game nobody can predict will happen (OK, maybe with Jose Reyes LOL) so moves can’t depend upon that.

            With KRod, it’s just not him for as others have said, with the bullpen we have now, there would not be too many opportunities to even get to that ninth. That is why I always include the discarded Takahashi and Issringhausen in my discussions. They had proven track records and are still doing the job today.

            Not excusing those who could not step up for not being able to do so, however, I’m not excusing the front office for obtaining those players who couldn’t – and getting rid of those who could.

            LGM – anyway
• gary s. July 18, 2012 at 8:03 am

  I agree with everybody complaining about the bullpen, but nobody mentioned how bad the Nationals pen was last nite.The difference is that Clippard came in with 14 saves in a row and had only blown 3 saves all year.To make the playoffs, you need a closer who saves an average of 80 per cent of his opportunities.Parnell clearly is not the guy.He has a track record of complete failure, yet this organization keeps allowing him to fail.When Francisco got hurt, Alderson had to make a move for a closer.He didn’t and we get nightmares like the 2nd Atlanta game and last nite’s disgrace to watch
• srt July 18, 2012 at 8:08 am

  Lost in all this yet another horrendous showing of this god-awful BP is Jason Bay.

  The gift that keeps on giving….long after the gift giver is gone.

  There should be no way he’s this team come next season, money be damned.
  • gorgeguy July 18, 2012 at 8:27 am

    I’m not one to give up on players as easily as most, but I totally agree on Bay. He had 3 lousy ABs last night and didn’t look confident at all. I cannot envision him ever getting straightened out in NY as he just looks completely out of sync.

    The only good thing about him is that he’s not a complete jerk like Bobby Bo was and he’s not a tub of lard like Mo Vaughn came to be. Nonetheless, I wish they would DFA him immediately in as dignified manner as possible.
    • srt July 18, 2012 at 8:44 am

      Top of the second, Bay grounds into a DP after Hairston singles. 2 out. Ike and Torres single. One run minimum lost there.

      Top of the seventh with Wright on third and 1 out, Bay flies out to short center not even deep enough to score that run.

      He had two opportunities for RBIs and couldn’t get it done. He did nothing at the plate, going 0 for 3 before Terry made the correct decision to PH for him with Valdespin in the 9th.

      IMO, this signing is worse than the Oliver Perez one.
      Right now we have too many holes to have this automatic out in the middle of the lineup.

      And I agree about his demeanor. Seems like a nice guy but he’s a nice guy just not getting it done. He has to go.
  • gary s. July 18, 2012 at 9:25 am

    They should have left Bay in Buffalo till he hit at least one home run.Good chance we would have never seen him again
• Metfan Lou July 18, 2012 at 8:45 am

  Excuse me I hear the water running. I’m back. It was just the Mets flushing their season down the drain. I hope they didn’t plug anything up.
• Gina July 18, 2012 at 11:21 am

  I went from extreme euphoria when Valdy jolted it out of the park, to an unexplainable sadness when Parnell blew the save. He was getting strikes with his curve, why did Thole call for the fastball after 8 straight curves for strikes? I mean yeah it was Parnell’s fault, but Thole called that pitch.
  • srt July 18, 2012 at 11:26 am

    Do you remember the game where Ike was thrown about 8 curve balls in a row and even Keith commented: ‘can’t go to that well too many times’. Bang, Ike hit the next pitch out of the park.

    I didn’t mind the fastball there. It was the location that stunk. Should have been upstairs. Change his line of site.
• mel tuck July 19, 2012 at 2:02 am

  ownership and sandy truly think met fans are fools …and we are for putting ourselves through this nightly aggravation…how can they march out the same bunch of sickening losers in the bp and expect anything to change…can you imagine that bum rausch has 7 loses?…and parnell is devoid of courage…battista is an old fool…and beato is a young fool..what a way to collapse …its july 17 and we are done!!!…I hate being a met fan…
• Cj July 31, 2012 at 2:33 am

  Parnell and the Dominicans cut them or find some idiots to take them