10
2011
Mets Post Game: E6, E5, E6, E5, BS, L
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Get your minds out of the gutter Metsmerizers, the BS is for “blown save”… I don’t usually get asked to do these game recaps so this will be anything but typical.
Despite a somewhat solid effort from starting pitcher Chris Capuano, and an almost valiant comeback attempt led by the resurgent Jason Bay, the Mets still found a way to hand the Chicago Cubs a 5-4 victory this afternoon at Citi Field.
David Wright and Jose Reyes combined for four errors which led to three unearned runs for the Cubs, but the most egregious of those errors happened in the ninth inning after the Mets fought back to take a 4-3 lead in the eighth. Wright got eaten up by an easy grounder by Geovany Soto to lead off the inning and that ill-timed miscue would set the tone for what would be another meltdown by closer Bobby Parnell.
“I was trying to retreat and catch and throw and just clanked it,” said Wright
Pinch-hitter Bryan LaHair then greeted Parnell with a double to put runners at second and third. After registering two outs, the Cubs’ best hitter Aramis Ramirez came up to the plate and rather than walking him with first base open, they chose to pitch to him and the rest was history.
Parnell would later say, “I felt like I threw well. Unfortunately, things didn’t go our way.” For the Mets closer, it was his third blown save in his last four chances and his fifth of the season. He’s not exactly cutting the mustard in his new role.
Capuano pitched seven innings and allowed two runs on five hits while striking out six. He kept the Mets in the game for the most part until giving way to the bullpen.
Jason Bay’s two-run single in the bottom of the eighth inning, his second hit of two hits, temporarily gave the Mets a 4-3 lead. Lucas Duda and Wright also had a couple of hits on the day.
Tomorrow will be a big day for many reasons as the Mets conclude the series on the tenth anniversary of the September 11th attacks. Miguel Batista will take on the Cubs’ Matt Garza at 8:05 PM on ESPN’s Sunday Night Baseball. Just win, baby…
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| Team | W | L | Pct. | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 26 | 17 | .605 | - |
| Nationals | 25 | 17 | .595 | 0.5 |
| Marlins | 23 | 19 | .548 | 2.5 |
| Mets | 22 | 20 | .524 | 3.5 |
| Phillies | 21 | 22 | .488 | 5.0 |
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Shouldn’t that say E6?
haha yes it should be, got caught up with their uniform numbers. I knew there was something wrong.
Reyes’ two errors were meaningless. The Mets were winning in the 9th. You can’t butcher a rather routine grounder to 3rd. Wright ALWAYS backs up on grounders. It’s a poor habit the announcers NEVER talk about. Let Tejada not play a ball on the backhand and RIGHT AWAY Gary Cohen goes into some superfluous blah blah about Tejada ‘needing’ to go to the backhand. Wright backs up on a grounder and he shuts his piehole and allows the color commentator speak.
Even Ojeda covered Wright’s rear by saying “sometimes you back up on grounders and sometimes you don’t” in a justification type analysis. It’s amazing how no one rips into Wright. He jogs home and almost gets doubled up and no one says a peep about “lack of hustle” because the Golden Boy can’t be attacked….SMH
WOW what a shocker – a Wright detractor killing him, but saying Reyes’s error’s were meaningless. You have got to be kidding me.
Never a bad word about YOUR golden boy, his error on the opening play on Thursday, nothing…….but only Wright’s error’s count. THEY ALL COUNT AS BAD PLAY, WRIGHT, REYES WHOMEVER.
Keep shaking your held until it falls off, maybe then you will stop making up crap.
The hypocrisy from some on this site is off the charts, call Wright the Golden Boy and in the SAME post say Reyes’ errors were meaningless. Now I’ve read it all.
I’m a Wrightophile, but one thing I know: David has always retreated on grounders, and from everything I’ve ever read about playing third, that’s not the thing to do.
Pops
Simply amazing.
SMH
ALL sins are forgiven if you make the plays in the 9th to win the game. WRIGHT DIDN’T MAKE THE PLAY! Does it need to be translated in Yiddish? Nobody gives a flying dump what happened in innings 1-8. In the 9th, with the lead, Wright came up small on a ROUTINE grounder.
I would LOVE to see how many errors Wright makes after the 6th inning throughout his career. I want to see how other 3B do fielding wise in the later part of the game. Wright has never struck me as a solid fielder and a few too many of his errors come late in games. I would love to see accurate numbers comparing his to his contemporaries on the hot corner.
Dude – I am not condoning Wright’s error but go ahead on your rant, however, you said “nobody gives a flying dump what happened in innings 1-8″ then you say I would LOVE to see how many errors Wright makes after the 6th inning throughout his career.
So which is it, if Wright makes it after the 6th it’s a mortal sin buy if anyone else makes an error before the 9th all is forgiven. WOW that’s not a double standard.
Also, ALL ERRORS are NOT forgiven for ANYONE in any inning, even if Reyes makes them. If you knew a thing about baseball ALL runs count, and early errors still leading to runs cost a team.
Yesterday the team lost by ONE run, those earlier runs DID cost the game just as much. Also AGAIN, I’m all over Wright for making the errors (in case I’m not clear), but lets dismiss the three fat hits Parnell gave up following that. NO NO that’s all Wrights fault too.
Translate in any language you want, but I NEVER EVER said ANY even the one in the 9th is ok, so do YOU NEED translations?
You can spin it however you want to fit your argument. Me wondering how many errors Wright has committed after the 6th inning is a direct connection to me calling Wright a choke artist. He chokes when the game is on the line. It’s been his history with the bat and with the glove as well.
And I don’t care if Wright and Reyes made 10 errors in the first 8 innings. If you’re ahead in the 9th and you play flawless defense, nobody will give a CRAP about the other errors. Unfortunately, Wright GAGGED/CHOKED a routine grounder. Baseball is meant to be played with 3 outs an inning, not 4. You DO know that, right?
“And I don’t care if Wright and Reyes made 10 errors in the first 8 innings. If you’re ahead in the 9th and you play flawless defense, nobody will give a CRAP about the other errors. Unfortunately, Wright GAGGED/CHOKED a routine grounder. Baseball is meant to be played with 3 outs an inning, not 4. You DO know that, right?”
You asking me about baseball is pretty comical. Obviously YOU do not know that EVERY run counts, and in this game ALL errors had an effect on the final outcome, and YOU continue to THINK, that I am dismissing the 9th inning error after saying for the 3rd time now that it DID matter.
Another know it all that has so much to actually learn – starting with your screen name, that’s a joke.
Errors committed in any inning, regardless of who commits them, are always meaningful, even when they don’t lead to runs being scored. Stress free innings are every pitchers goal. Get enough of them and you have a good chance of winning the game. Hits are going to happen, nothing you can do about it but walks and errors put people on (and move other guys up) and frequently score. Outs that you earned wind up being runs against you. To judge them by what happens after (whether they come back to haunt you) doesn’t make them any less meaningful at the time of the offense. It just means someone picked you up. Probably the pitcher, maybe another fielder, anyway your back in the dugout, 4-5 extra pitches thrown and maybe even burnt your best pitch sequence or used your out pitch to the #3 or #4 hitter in the first instead of the 5th or 7th.
Not meaningless at all.
Now I’m on record that we should resign Reyes this year and let Wright go after his option year (2013) but I simply can’t understand the hypocrisy of some posters here.
Reyes has his worst months in August and Sept of both 2007 and 2008, Wright has his best months of the year in August and September of 2007 and 2008 and yet Wright gets called out repeatedly for wilting in the clutch. Now Reyes errors are meaningless while Wrights cost the game. Why the double standard?
It just can’t all be selective memory or delusion can it? There must be something else driving this double standard.
SMH.
ahhh, t lagee,i don’t usually reply to your post, but here i go..
there is no double standard here, errors are not meaningless, i think omar was saying reyes errors didn’t cost us the game, while at the end, wright’s did yet cohen killed reyes for it and didn’t say squat about wright’s. the guy is a notorious choker, and btw, you might wanna check again with that septemeber 2008 again, he was unclutch all year hitting 243 with RISP, and of course, the MOST MEMORABLE STRIKEOUT IN METS HISTORY against none other than the same cubs who yesterday walked LUCAS DUDA to pitch to wright, letting him know “hey, beat us, we know you couldn’t back in 2008, you won’t this time either”, and little did you know he FOLDED once again..
In that case Alex, OmarFan’s comments should have been directed toward Cohen, and he did call Reyes error’s meaningless even though everyone knows they weren’t meaningless at the time they occurred.
It most certainly IS a double standard. No other way to put it. Reminds me of a game in Miami last year where they both made two apiece. The difference here was that Reyes got picked up, Wright didn’t. Doesn’t make any either one’s “meaningless.”
They both played poor defense and that is the last thing a defensively challenged team needs since we’re already getting bad defense at catcher, sometimes at 2B and RF. Errors are contagious and with our rotation and pen, simply not something we can afford to happen from anyone, at any point in the game.
fair enough, in my opinion errors are never meaningless because they (as wright error proved it) can cause you the game, this team has no closer, and the poor guy they keep trotting out there keeps blowing games, as a defense you have to play your strongest when that “closer” is in the game, god knows last thing he needs is to give the opp more outs..
August and Sept 2007 and 2008
RBI RS RBI+RS
Beltran 90 81 = 171
Delgado 66 57 = 123
Reyes 35 78 = 113
Wright 85 90 = 175
Considering that Wright hit 3rd everyday in all four of those months, the most common spots in the order for him to drive guys in would be leadoff (Reyes) who wasn’t hitting, Castillo/Church/Murphy hitting 2nd, the pitcher hitting ninth and the # 8 hitter which was usually some combination of Defilice/Alomar/Milledge/Lo Duca/Gotay/Green/Schneider or someone of that ilk and even in 2007 when Castillo was getting on (2008 he was horrendous) almost certainly he’s on 1B so no way Wright drives him in with anything less than a double and even that’s no guarantee.
With table setters like our #8 hitter, the pitcher, Reyes not getting on as much as usual and a #2 hitter who when he did get on almost always required at least a double to get plated by Wright I’d say he made a lot of his opportunities. No one’s going to come through every time but considering the guys hitting in front of him I just don’t see the need to constantly single him out for criticism of those two blown post seasons.
Those four months (other than Oct 2006) were the most pressure packed games the Mets have played in the last decade and as you can see by the numbers he led the team in runs scored and despite the lack of baserunners to drive in, did drive in almost as many as the team leader who had HIM to drive in getting OB at a .433 clip as opposed to Jose’s .324, the pitcher and whoever was hitting 8th that day or the guy in front of him who required an extra base hit to score from 1B.
For him to get ALL the criticism IS a double standard plain and simple and I know a few of you will deny all credible evidence of how wrong you are and point to what you want to remember or one AB or some other nonsense but the fact is EVERYONE could have done a little more and I’ll always wonder how many big hits by Delgado, Beltran and Wright were rendered “meaningless” after the emergency call up couldn’t get out of the 3rd or the bullpen blew the game in both the 8th and the 9th or as usual we had four guys in the lineup that couldn’t have started for KC or Pittsburgh.
you really wanna tell us that he did good in sept 2008 based on numbers?? do you actually watch the game or like billy beane in “moneyball” you have ppl text you the boxscore only??
do you know how many games i saw this guy just NOT come trough in the clutch JUST In sept? i mean, are we supposed to forget that in 2008 the man hit 243 with RISP for the whole year? i’ve said it many times, had he hit 300 that year with RISP he would’ve had 150 rbi’s!!!
and please, don’t give me that crap about OBP and how reyes wasn’t on base. how many times didn’t we see reyes open the game with a hit or walk, then stole 2b, then bunted to third and score on a wright’s ground out to 2b or a sac fly, i mean, in 2008 wright LEAD THE LEAGUE IN SAC FLY. wonder why that was.. stop defending that choker..
Mets lose while playing like, well, the Cubs. Wonderful. Guess they felt sorry for the Cubs having played as poorly as they have all year so the good guys these Mets are they felt obliged to throw the losers from Wrigley a bone, right? LOL Seriously, as much good as it may appear that Collins has brought, where is the consistency, and I ain’t talking about consistently bad either. I realize injuries have hurt them. But injuries happen to other teams.
Atlanta has had injuries to Jones, McCann, Jurjens, and Hanson to name a few. Philly has had injuries to Rollins, Victorino, Lidge, Utley, and Oswalt. St. Louis has missed Wainwright and Pujols. Yet, these teams continue to find ways to win. I will concede Atl and Phil have better overall pitching and that helps tremendously. But the one thing with the Mets for ’11 I always have to go back to is their home performance. Injuries or not, this team has a winning road record but is 8 games UNDER .500 at home! 8 games. 8 wins puts them at 79-66 and makes them relevant in the W/C chase behind the Braves, not an afterthought 12 behind in the W/C and 24 in the division. Injuries DO NOT account for being such a rotten team in the “friendly” confines of Citi Field.
Hadn’t really noticed till early this week it was shown Mets are 11th in errors in NL, wow!
Is the defense that bad or has the constant new players playing different positions been the problem?
That error by David was key but hey Parnell you are 26 now so man up, take the blame, cause all pitchers say they threw the ball well when they lose or win doesn’t matter.
You don’t throw all fastballs to a great fastball hitter like Ramirez who always has a great 2nd half when the Cubs are bad.
Bad call by Terry top allow Ramirez to hit, I know he had his doubts about Parnell melting down with no room for error with bases loaded but how did the alternate work out?
I know you want to find out but this takes me back to the year Wagner got hurt and Mets had BP by committee and it hurt down the stretch especially against teams like the Cubs and Nats that year.
SA you have got to do something about BP cause playing a good game then having the closer blow it does not lead to a team growing, only in frustration.
Good solid recap – well done.
Errors are part of the game and seem to happen on the routine plays. What is more disturbing is why TC keeps throwing Parnell into the pressure cooker when he can’t handle it. Also the writer is incorrect. Teams with injuries do suufer. The Cardinals are trying to catch the Braves in the WC and are 5.5 games behind them now with a lot of the season left. Never count out a Tony LaRusa team.
I dont think Collins has a choice. He’s tried Beato and Acosta without success, Izzy is hurt, he cant throw Igarashi, Carrasco or Byrdak in the ninth, what do you suggest Collins does? The bottom line is the only guy who could do the job is gone. Mets need a closer and it isn’t coming from this group.
Oh I don’t know, with about 16 games left, why not take a starter (dare I say Big Pelf) and throw him into the closer roll, take Parnell as an occassional starter or long guy and go from there. I know in earlier posts I thought it was a bad idea for Pelf to close but seeing Parnell, I am now in favor of it.
Nice CHOKE job by Wright in the 10th with the bases loaded and 2 outs. Typical of this kid.
Typical fan that only pays attention to Wright when he fails, but yet gives Reyes a pass on everything.
Are you actually a Mets fan?
i watched this game on saturday, and of course, gary cohen S***** on reyes, but when wright made that error in the ninth inning he stood quite and just played it like it was meaningless, well, we know what happened, fast forward to sunday and well… another CHOKE job by #5.. had gary cohen been the announcer he would’ve give wright a pass as he always does.. is amazing the love for a guy who’s done nothing but feed off beltran, delgado and reyes to pad his stats.. not a leader, good kid, not a superstar or godsend as some of you may think..
Who ever called him a God Send……………..
I was AT the game on Saturday, and it’s ok for Reyes to make two errors? Not a word about that, nor this error on Thursday. 3 error’s in 3 days and that’s ok – Wright Chokes……………
Oh and he’s not a good “kid” – how many millions of dollars have YOU Raised for sick children?
who in the blue hell are you??????
Who are you?
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