David Wright: Jose Reyes Makes Me A Better Player

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• Bayonne Mets Fan February 7, 2011 at 10:30 pm

  I actually kind of like the way Wright spoke out publicly in support of Reyes, despite Saber Sandy’s comments.
  • any February 7, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Which comment? Calling him one of the best players in the league, or saying that the team needed more Jose reyes’?

    obviously he hates him. Clear as mud.
    • Bayonne Mets Fan February 7, 2011 at 11:08 pm

      I don’t care..they BOTH need to hit in the clutch more, especially Wright!
      • JerryG15 February 8, 2011 at 7:44 am

        Well it’s good to know it’s another day ending in Y where Bayonne can mis use the word Saber and bring up Wright and having to hit more in the clutch. Thank God I can get on with my day now all is right in the world.
        • t agee February 8, 2011 at 8:25 am

          Good to see that the statisticians are on the job.
      • Donal February 8, 2011 at 9:08 am

        Wright hits great in the clutch. Your memory of one instant does not define his career.
• Metsie February 7, 2011 at 11:47 pm

  If David really and truly wants Jose to stay he needs to do the talking with his bat and not with a camera crew!

  I want Reyes to be resigned as much as the next guy but if Wright and Bay slump the way they did last year then they will have done everything but pack reyes bags for him!

  Reyes will get paid only if the rest of the team warrants spending that kind of money.
  If they don’t look like they can win WITH Reyes now then there is no reason to keep him!

  Instead of worrying so much about who is and isn’t on the team they should be thinking about how to play at a level where NO ONE gets moved because why fix what isn’t broken?

  I don’t know that they can but they got till July to show me because I don’t think Sandy is going to wait any longer than that!

  It is put up or shut up time for everyone on this team.

  Put up as a team and you stay a team.
  If they don’t put up as a team the good players will be the first to go. REBUILD, FIRESALE DEATH AND DOOM, call it what you want.

  But if this group isn’t in contention by the trading deadline we will strip it down to the foundation and start over will all the picks we can get for that $140 million worth of nothing!
  • NYMetsGirl5 February 8, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Sorry, I don’t buy that 100%. First of all, you cannot compare the seasons Bay & Wright had last year. Bay was horrendous. Wright had periods of long slumps, but played day in and day out and produced. Second of all, Jose Reyes has to control Jose Reyes’ destiny. He has to be the one to go out there and play hard and stay healthy and be the Jose he used to be. The past two seasons have done nothing to prove his value to this team. Don’t get me wrong, I love Jose and want to see the Mets re-sign him because I do agree with what Wright said about how a healthy, productive Jose affects this team… but there has to be some responsibility on the player himself. He doesn’t need Wright & Bay to get a contract, he needs Jose to be Jose to get a contract.
    • Metsie February 8, 2011 at 12:55 pm

      You can’t call a .347 OBP, .402 SLG 47 RBI horrendous. His BA went down as did his HRs. But he hit 20 doubles many of which would have been HRs in other parks.

      he was .020 points off in BA from his career average.
      He had as many doubles in a half season of 2010 as he had in entire seasons with Pitt and Boston. Only in 2005 did he have 44 Doubles the other years he had 2B numbers in the 20′s. So he was hitting more doubles off the wall with us. Some of those as stated would have been HRs in either Pitt or Boston.

      If you look at the splits, Bay hit .303 in May when Wright was hitting .248 Two of his HRs were in that time. In June he dropped to .250 Once Wright got hot and hit .404. Bays last 3 HRs were durung that time which explains the BA. He was trying to hit HRs instead of just driving the ball.

      It wasn’t horrendous, just not what you expected. If he had the entire season to work out his issues we probably wouldn’t be talking about his problem at all!

      Doesn’t matter now what he did. Only matters what he does next. If he is a bust wave bye bye to Wright reyes and Beltran while they are probably stuck with Bay as they rebuild!
  • METS62FAN February 8, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    FIRESALE? It’s tough enough to sell a piece of a team under the ‘SWORD OF DAMACLESE’ let alone one gutted of it’s most talented,promising youth.

    The best thing, in my mind, for Alderson to do is to decide to shave $10M off of this years’ payroll by simply letting Beltran walk for his picks & assigning his contract value over to Reyes saving Jose’s current $11M!

    Typically, Jose ends pretty high on the RS ledger in the NL, how close Pagan can tailgate him in that measure will be KEY to our success.

    Here’s my preferred path to cutting this year’s payroll: Let Beltran depart for picks, slide Beltran $$$ to Reyes & Beltran position to Pagan promoting a prospect to RF for ’12 @ minimum payscale. NET SAVINGS approx $10M!
    • t agee February 8, 2011 at 12:23 pm

      ’62, We cannot offer arb to Beltran by contractual agreement so the only way to get anything for him would be to trade him after he has reestablished himself.

      I can see any number of teams interested come May 1st and I’d be willing to keep some of his paycheck in order to maximize the return and I would gladly offer 4/60 – 5/75 for Reyes 2nd week into ST.

      Even if he were to get hurt at least that’s the kind of guy it’s worth taking a chance on.
      • METS62FAN February 8, 2011 at 1:01 pm

        T, thanks for having my back on that Beltran, ARBI condition; as U & I have often clashed on the VALUE OR NOT of some of Omar’s riff-raff signings; I’ve come to realize the two MOST HARMFULL deals, as they turned out, were Santana & Beltran.
        As each was entering their 28-32 Primes suprisingly instead of peak performances we got ‘piqued’ fans.

        BELTRAN’S PARTICIPATING IN only 76% OF THE GAMES PLAYED THROUGH HIS CONTRACT.

        Santana’s failures to healthily complete ANY SEASON while FAILING TO EXCEED 16 Ws, BEING MOLESTED REPEATEDLY by our most KEY OPPONEBNTS ATL,PHL,NYY.

        Since ’02 only Glavine had/has been as ineffectual against Atlanta as Santana.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not accusing either of ever dogging it or NOT giving their ALL; just the contrary. It absolutely astounds me at how Santana can so repeatedly stink against these prime competitors yet still be renowned as a BIG GAME PITCHER. Aren;t his 2 biggest meltdowns 1 each against NYY & PHL?
        in 3 years I can recall ONLY 3 STANDOUT SIGNATURE moments. That ’07 last GS,the STL marathon & his 2010 openner Vs Johnson & Fish.
        By expecting there to be more am I being overly demanding? Hell, even Trachsel had 2 one-hitters as a Met, How many for Santana?

        Beltran’s in & out of the lineup issue has kept him ineffectual for nearly 25% of his PRIME PRODUCTION years. Both were key aged acquisitions one @ 28(Beltran) the other 29(Santana).
        • t agee February 8, 2011 at 1:25 pm

          I know ’62, Beltran is the last guy I thought wouldn’t last his contract, even at 7 years. First the quad then the collision. Three great years and 2 injury plagued ones plus his last season here.

          Johan has been plagued too, maybe it’s the lack of sanitary water die to the “Iron Triangle” next door.

          Fact is these 7 year contracts rarely if ever work out and because of never having any other options your forced to go more years than makes sense.

          If guys are joining an established team with a realistic chance of winning they can be had for 4 or 5 like Halliday and Lee if not you have to go 6 or 7 and like I said it just never works out.

          My fear is Johan is not the same when he gets back either this year or next. What then? 60M more parked on the DL or as a 3rd 4th starter just when we finally get rid of 18M worth of dead ass.

          When is it going to end ’62.
          • METS62FAN February 9, 2011 at 12:40 pm

            T, I believe it’s time to waer the sandwich sign that reads;”THE END IS NIGH”

            I’m not just being facetious, I’m serious; sure it’s one thing to claim there should be depth on the farm to maintain progress & another to try to contend using “checkbook” development.

            T, we’ve agreed in the past that in ’05 Minaya was handed a Farm system bereft of any meaningful talent at any usable level or any position, Lastings Milledge was the last prospect standing from the Phillips’ regime, Duquette had already stripped the roster of any tradeable veteran assets such as Alomar, Benitez, Burnitz, Ventura, Zeile without adding any useful young talent of any regard ie Royce Ring as the sole prospect returned; but only if we accepted his companion sore-armed Almonte? Duquette passed Almonte onto Boston in one of his final elimination moves.
            T, historically there are ONLY 3 methods for adding youth & vitality to a Major League Franchise; the amateur draft, trading vets for prospects & signing undsrafteable internationals. Between Duquette’s elimination of the trade option and Fred’s elimination of the Competitive signing bonus the ability to rebuild internally via youth was severely damaged making the ONLY feasible method for improving MLB performance the acquisition of Top F/A
            So much for what I believe is the “How we got here” past, my optimism for a change in style-modus operandi, lies with the combination of Alderson’s having less demands/expectations on him combined with a deeper development program, though still less respected due to obvious lack of NAURALS types from 1st & 2nd round picks, a fanbase weary of the failed F/A disappointments, wanting more developing, a loss of stature as a potential Salary structure destroyer by Commish leasding to a wink should we exceed slot as Selig recommended,Alderson strongly requests. Weary Wilpons looking for Headline shelter are less meddling Wilpons.

            Yes, T, I believe the light is actually the end of the tunnel & not that feared onrushing freighttrain!

            LET US PRAY! AMEN!
            • Metsie February 9, 2011 at 1:28 pm

              I agree this year is the END of the END, Not the beginning of it. The end started Two years ago! When all the gambles started getting hurt.

              This year will be the final chapter. The team will not look the same even before the season is over!

              The only question now is HOW LONG will it take to transition.
              Two possibilities here:

              Short time, long time!

              Short time is possible if Pelfrey steps up and becomes the ace he was supposed to, Pagan hit the way he did last year, Reyes returns to full form and shows he is worth giving a new contract, David Wright makes that performance pay off, Bay is more of a help than a hinderance, Davis shows he wasn’t a fluke and improves, Niese continues to stay consistent and healthy, and the KEY…

              Beltran plays well enough to command some good prospects at the trading deadline.

              The long version will happen is Reyes, Wright and Davis are only so so. Cause then Reyes is gone and maybe Wright too! beltran I think is a goner no matter what happens here. This will mean we are in a full rebuild that will take 3 or 4 years minimum to complete. And don’t expect any big mega deal signings or trades until that is done.

              As for Omar’s move we all admit he had no farm to work with. Was his plan great? NO WAY! but it also wasn’t pure folly. He made some bad contract choices because he had no farm to fill and people wanted to see us win.

              Now while none of us are happy with the farm as it is it did produce Niese, Davis, Thole, has Mejia and Gee in the wings, you can’t go a day without someone touting Murphy at 2B so how bad is a farm that has 3 ML starters and 3 more potential wing candidates coming from it.

              As bad as the GMJ, castillo and Perez contracts are (and castillo is really a borderline BAD lets face it 8 Mil?) to be fair we should also factor in the Dickey and Pagan signings as virtual steals!

              Omar basically gambled that he would have the farm developed by the time the FA contracts he handed out would expire.
              And that actually has come to pass in a very mediocre way.

              This team can go either way right now.
              If it shows it is at least close to competing then we won’t have to suffer a long rebuild.

              If it can’t compete then we are likely to stockpile as many prospects and picks as we can. Which means if people think they are unhappy now just wait till they have to sit through what might essentially be be a Buffalo Bisons vs the Phillies series!
              • METS62FAN February 10, 2011 at 12:01 pm

                Metsie, here’s my biggest fear, Beltran & Reyes play well, our pitching struggles & we’re buried deep in 3rd place on 7/31. Everyone knows Sandy HAS to deal Beltran & offer yesterday’s trash making Sandy forced to deal Reyes to get anything of value. That’s your beginning of the end as for ALL those castigating Reyes with claims he’s not worth a Crawford deal 17M+. what about Wright next? without Reyes what’s his chances @ better numbers? better or worse? I think worse. dealing Reyes will lead to dealing Wright as a Reyesless team will have considerably worse outlook than a Reyes one. Is that when u invest more? unlikely. No Reyes, No Wright, No Beltran, NO FORSEEABLE POSITIVE OUTLOOK. Those dominoes tumbling that way destroys the teams forseeable outlook which decimates SNY’s ratings forcing the Franchise to rollover not playing dead; just DEAD! DNR!
              • Metsie February 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm

                He doesn’t HAVE to deal Reyes because Reyes will net some draft picks if he leaves. He Might trade Reyes is the deal is worth it though.

                As for beltran I don’t think your going to get garbage for him. He would be a great DH in the american league who can also play the field when needed. His bat would have been top 5 in SLG if he had a season as good as his september!

                Beltran isn’t done he is just RISKY. Until he shows he can play everyday no one is going to buy into the numbers. If he manages to stay on the field until the trading deadline hits then we will get some offers for him to a team who needs another bat to shore up their playoff drive.

                And remember with Beltran gone it also opens up the possibility to use his money on something else needed.
• Mikey February 8, 2011 at 7:37 am

  If you guys wanna see Jose Reyes in a Met uniform next year, then you need to go to games. Buy tickets. End of story. It’s the unfortunate truth. If you want David Wright to be a Met for the foreseeable future as well, you need to buy tickets and go to games.

  It’s annoying, but it’s true. Boycotting Met games this year because you think they’re gonna be lousy, only to buy tix again when you think they’re gonna be good is frontrunner behavior. Yankee fan behavior. Philly fan behavior.
  • happy little mets fans February 8, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Yeah, listen to the little Metsie mikey…go to games, spend your money, support the Wilpon family. pay off their debts. most importantly SAVE THE WILPONS and KEEP THE METS THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF BASEBALL!!!!
    Good post mikey…. you are a good little metsie, juist like that bayonne dude!!!!!
    • Metsie February 8, 2011 at 9:51 am

      troll
      • Donal February 8, 2011 at 9:52 am

        Ya, we all know. Lets just all ignore it.
        • Mikey February 8, 2011 at 9:57 am

          Wish I had enough time on my hands to troll the boards of teams I don’t like. This guy has the life! We should all strive to be more like him!
          • Metsie February 8, 2011 at 10:32 am

            Not hard just move in with Mommy! LOL!
• sarge February 8, 2011 at 2:14 pm

  David has been playing alongside Jose since 2004 or 2005 me thinks and of course when they were both playing healthy and producing they were All Stars and great players but I feel that since Delgado left, no one to hit behind him that worried other teams, then David tried to take it all on himself.
  Jose has had the type of problems that fast player can only hope to avoid and when healthy he is in the top 5 leadoff hitters in MLB even with his walks being down.

  I appreciate David sticking up for his team mate and fellow Met vet cause they are the ones that will carry this team this year if they are to compete, INO.
• METS62FAN February 10, 2011 at 1:17 pm

  Metsie “no reply” otion but here’s what u said…
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  “Metsie says:
  February 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm
  He doesn’t HAVE to deal Reyes because Reyes will net some draft picks if he leaves. He Might trade Reyes is the deal is worth it though.

  As for beltran I don’t think your going to get garbage for him. He would be a great DH in the american league who can also play the field when needed. His bat would have been top 5 in SLG if he had a season as good as his september!

  Beltran isn’t done he is just RISKY. Until he shows he can play everyday no one is going to buy into the numbers. If he manages to stay on the field until the trading deadline hits then we will get some offers for him to a team who needs another bat to shore up their playoff drive.

  And remember with Beltran gone it also opens up the possibility to use his money on something else needed.”
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  Metsie, I pray you’re right those are scenerios that have worked for nearly every team; but in 49 yrs I can’t remember any such happening in Flushing. Ever consider that the Beltran money may need reinvestment in the Madoff settlement? otherwise it’s a perfect fit for retaining Reyes; alas I think Picard may all ready be on that line.
  • Metsie February 10, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    If they needed that money for Madoff Beltran would already be gone.

    Did you read the complaint against the Wilpons?

    Even if everything they accuse the Wilpons of were true at most they would get 300 Mil back!

    They are trying to use bankruptcy laws to get money back but those only apply to Madoff himself since he is the one that went bankrupt not the Wilpons.

    he is trying to say the Wilpns OWNED the fund because they were the one with the most money in it.

    madoff is not going to have any affect. Mark my words on that.

    They will give back about 300 Mil and maybe some interest and by the time this clears the courts chances are likely Sandy already respent the money by then.

    That case is going to drag on for years after all the appeals are exhausted!
    LOL

    And I’m not going to worry about past history. Even if you think the Wilpons were the cause of that they got too many things to worry about than bothering and tinkering with Sandy.
    • Donal February 10, 2011 at 5:18 pm

      I think you’re right. Picard seems to be all about theatrics and scare tactics. The ‘pons will probably settle just to make this go away and buy a little more karma.
• Robert February 13, 2011 at 9:04 pm

  Playoffs??? Mets are a fourth place team in the NL East at best.