An MMO Fan Shot by Peter S.
I have to admit, I can’t believe how many fans are buying into the “Yoenis Cespedes can’t hit good pitching” rhetoric. We are playing right into the Front Office’s hands by believing he is not good and isn’t worth a contract this offseason. Well, I don’t fall into that category. We are letting the Front Office let the best player we’ve ever had (besides Beltran) walk. Ok, Wright in his heyday was better – but you get my point.
So, I decided to do a little bit of research. I didn’t go into OPS as I believe it is not a good stat in small samples as a couple of homeruns can really weigh it in a players favor. Here goes:
The Question:
How would the top nine free agent hitters fare vs the last 10 winners of the Cy Young Award over the previous six seasons from both leagues?
The Cy Young Award Winners:
- Jake Arrieta
- R.A. Dickey
- Felix Hernandez
- Zack Greinke
- Clayton Kershaw
- Dallas Keuchel
- Corey Kluber
- David Price
- Max Scherzer
- Justin Verlander
The Top 9 Free Agent Hitters:
Yoenis Cespedes, Justin Upton, Jason Heyward, Ben Zobrist, Daniel Murphy, Chris Davis, Ian Desmond, Alex Gordon and Denard Span
So I pondered…what would these guys do, over 600 at-bats, vs the top pitchers in the game from the last 6 years? I mean, surely, the Cy Young winners is a good and fair barometer, right? So let’s start with the actual AB vs these pitchers:
Cumulative Numbers: | |||||
H | AB | BA | HR | RBI | |
Cespedes | 41 | 147 | .279 | 8 | 20 |
Upton | 23 | 114 | .202 | 5 | 13 |
Heyward | 23 | 86 | .267 | 1 | 5 |
Zobrist | 40 | 214 | .187 | 5 | 15 |
Murphy | 22 | 74 | .297 | 5 | 10 |
Davis | 40 | 153 | .261 | 4 | 17 |
Desmond | 18 | 103 | .175 | 3 | 4 |
Gordon | 52 | 231 | .225 | 8 | 25 |
Span | 44 | 167 | .263 | 1 | 10 |
Now, let’s look at each player’s career numbers over 162 games:
Career 162 Game Average: | |||||
H | AB | BA | HR | RBI | |
Cespedes | 172 | 634 | .271 | 30 | 103 |
Upton | 161 | 592 | .272 | 26 | 84 |
Heyward | 156 | 583 | .268 | 19 | 68 |
Zobrist | 156 | 588 | .265 | 17 | 77 |
Murphy | 173 | 602 | .287 | 11 | 72 |
Davis | 146 | 574 | .254 | 37 | 101 |
Desmond | 160 | 608 | .263 | 19 | 75 |
Gordon | 163 | 605 | .269 | 19 | 75 |
Span | 187 | 651 | .287 | 6 | 57 |
And finally, what would those guys’ numbers look like if they each faced this group of pitchers over 600 at-bats, to me, the best way to judge what that small sample really means:
Numbers over 600 AB | |||||
H | AB | BA | HR | RBI | |
Cespedes | 167 | 600 | .279 | 33 | 82 |
Upton | 121 | 600 | .202 | 26 | 68 |
Heyward | 160 | 600 | .267 | 7 | 35 |
Zobrist | 112 | 600 | .187 | 14 | 42 |
Murphy | 178 | 600 | .297 | 41 | 81 |
Davis | 157 | 600 | .261 | 16 | 67 |
Desmond | 105 | 600 | .175 | 17 | 23 |
Gordon | 135 | 600 | .225 | 21 | 65 |
Span | 158 | 600 | .263 | 4 | 36 |
I never thought I’d see Murphy’s numbers pop out like this, but it shows how well he fares vs good pitching. Of course, that is nowhere near his regular career home run numbers. So perhaps it’s just an outlier.
Cespedes, on the other hand, came in at .279 – 33 – 82 even though all we’ve been hearing is that he cannot hit good pitching. Obviously, these numbers prove otherwise. In fact, these numbers show that just about half of these guys can’t hit good pitching consistently (Desmond, Zobrist, Gordon & Upton hit .225 or worse). Power wise, Cespedes is ahead of every free agent OF on this list, and well ahead of prodigious home run hitter Chris Davis.
Denard Span, who is reportedly a Met target, had a woeful showing so how is he going to help replace Cespedes? You want Zobrist over Murphy? I hope you see the difference in consistency vs good pitching.
But of course, this is a very small sample, and does not mean anything. But, can we stop saying that Cespedes can’t hit good pitching? Can we please stop talking like Zobrist is the answer? Judging either of these guys based on 150 AB or so makes a lot more sense than judging them based on playoff numbers. But, just in case people are wondering, career numbers for each player in the playoffs:
Postseason Career: | |||||
H | AB | BA | HR | RBI | |
Cespedes | 26 | 94 | .277 | 3 | 14 |
Upton | 11 | 48 | .229 | 2 | 4 |
Heyward | 11 | 53 | .208 | 2 | 6 |
Zobrist | 34 | 132 | .258 | 4 | 9 |
Murphy | 19 | 58 | .328 | 7 | 11 |
Davis | 5 | 24 | .208 | 0 | 2 |
Desmond | 10 | 37 | .270 | 0 | 0 |
Gordon | 24 | 108 | .222 | 3 | 17 |
Span | 12 | 47 | .255 | 0 | 1 |
And if you extrapolate their postseason performance over 600 ABs:
Numbers over 600 ABs: | |||||
H | AB | BA | HR | RBI | |
Cespedes | 166 | 600 | .277 | 19 | 89 |
Upton | 138 | 600 | .229 | 25 | 50 |
Heyward | 125 | 600 | .208 | 23 | 68 |
Zobrist | 155 | 600 | .258 | 18 | 41 |
Murphy | 197 | 600 | .328 | 72 | 114 |
Davis | 125 | 600 | .208 | 0 | 50 |
Desmond | 162 | 600 | .270 | 0 | 0 |
Gordon | 133 | 600 | .222 | 17 | 94 |
Span | 153 | 600 | .255 | 0 | 13 |
To be fair, Cespedes’ power numbers are cut in a 1/3 off his career, but in terms of batting average, he is right on par with his career numbers. Ben Zobrist can’t shine Murphy’s shoes over 600 playoff AB. Alex Gordon, Mr. “KC Royals approach” – he has a career .222 BA in the playoffs. Not exactly consistent.
And of course, the one guy who will likely get the biggest contract this offseason is Jason Heyward. Please review his numbers above, and think to yourself… Is this guy really getting a better deal than Cespedes? Please, he is not a great player. He is not in Cespedes’ class offensively.
OK, so this argument has major flaws. I get it, there are more overall stats and the old “eye test” to consider. I mean, the NL figured out Cespedes, he can’t possibly make adjustments because he is a head case. I know, I know. He is not worth $20 million a year. I get it. People are scared. Just please, don’t tell me he can’t hit good pitching. It’s just not true. In fact, statistically speaking, he is the second best free agent hitter available vs good pitching. Of course, Sir Murphy is No. 1.
Thanks for giving me a few minutes to vent.
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