Mets Are Paying For A Bullpen That Was Misconceived From The Start
When Willie Randolph has Rick Peterson make a call to the bullpen, it has become a vicious game of "Choose Your Poison."
It's like playing "Russian Roulette" with six bullets in your six shooter.
"Omar Minaya and Willie Randolph have to assume the blame." That is what Ed Coleman from WFAN had to say.
It was a poorly constructed bullpen that began when Omar Minaya decided to give Guillermo Mota the contract that should have gone to Chad Bradford.
It continued when the Mets dispatched the third best pitching prospect in their system, Brian Bannister, to the Kansas City Royals for the erratic Ambiorix Burgos. While Bannister is now among the top ten starters in the American League, Burgos and his unorthodox delivery is now out until 2009 after Tommy John surgery.
The bullpen was dealt a devastating blow when the Mets top two relief prospects, Royce Ring and Heath Bell, were traded to the San Diego Padres for flops, Jon Adkins and Ben Johnson.
Even highly touted Matt Lindstrom was traded to the Marlins for the disappointing Jason Vargas.
Heath Bell is now one of the premier setup men in the league, while Brian Bannister has become the unequivocal ace of his team
Because of the way the bullpen was ravaged by Minaya, he was forced to pitch 21 year old Joe Smith for over 50 innings this season, leading to a sore arm and placement on the Disabled List this week.
The Yankees had Joba Rules for their prized prospect, but we had "blow the kid's arm out" rules for Joe Smith.
Willie Randolph has refused to define any roles all year for the bullpen and thought it would be cool to just pick and choose relievers in random situations all year long until they became so disoriented that not one of them understands their role on the team.
His constant obsession with pitch counts on the starters, severely ravaged a bullpen that has become overworked and ineffective.
Now Omar and Willie are left with the prospect of a post season dangling by a thread, and a bullpen that has not one pitcher who can be relied upon.
The Mets traded their top pitching prospects at the time, and got absolutely no benefit for them in 2007, and yet they refused to part with any prospects for a chance to obtain any relief for the disaster that has become the Mets bullpen.
The Mets need this bullpen to not only save ballgames, but now they must save the team's post season aspirations as well.
















Comments
Hey look at this NEWS>> Now you can't tell me he would be any worse then the crap Omar has assembled in that bullpen. Good going Omar not trying to think out of the box. Oh yeah he is not from your native land. If he spoke espanol you would have traded 2 more young white players for him.
Steve Trachsel-S- Cubs Aug. 31 - 2:01 pm et
Cubs acquired RHP Steve Trachsel from the Orioles for infielder Scott Moore and RHP Rocky Cherry.
A Trachsel trade always seemed likely, but it's pretty surprising that the Cubs are reacquiring him. He does give the team a nice insurance policy should a starter falter down the stretch, but as things stand now, he doesn't figure to be an upgrade over Sean Marshall. We're assuming that's who he'll replace if he enters the rotation right away. Only NL-only leaguers desperate for victories should pick him up.
Posted by: WILLIE HAS TO GO AND OMAR HAS TO GO. | August 31, 2007 2:12 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Aaron Sele pitched on Saturday.
Posted by: Tyler | August 31, 2007 2:19 PM
Some of the moves willie makes with the starters and bullpen truly make me scratch my head. Nobody is going to die if a starting pitcher goes into the 8th inning. Mota should NOT be brought into close games. And i wish Willie would go out and argue with an ump when they make a bad call, not just go out there and then go back in the dugout. I want willie to get ejected and fire up his team. Thats one thing he really doesnt seem to be able to do at all. Maybe they will fire themselves up, but i sure hope they do it in time for this series against the braves. They need to at the very least, win ONE game!
Posted by: Cass | August 31, 2007 3:25 PM
You state facts that you cant argue with. You cant get mad about the Bell trade since he couldnt perform consistently in NY. However the Mota deal was ridiculous for a known cheater. And the Bannister deal is another WHAT IF scenario for us. I would have to say today is the toughest day of the season. The Mets need to play each series like its a playoff series. Finally, Willie got what he wanted...EVERY GAME IS A BIG GAME.
Posted by: david | August 31, 2007 3:26 PM
Ok this nonsense has got to stop. If you want to blame Omar for not adding a quality arm to the pen thats fine but to make Bannister, Linstrom, Bell and Ring out to be CY Young is utter nonsense. None of them ever showed enough promise to even be considered as core pieces to this team. No one could have foreseen the kind of success Bannister and Bell would have had this year. Bannister was to be a #4 or #5 starter at best. Bell was nothing special at any point in his career and his motion raised major injury concerns. Just check out the following scouting reports and honestly tell me you wouldn't have made these deals.
Jason Vargas - Low-mid-90s heat and strong slider and change-up, backed by impressive poise and command for a young pitcher. That slider is killer against left-handed hitters. Still needs to work on his approach to right-handed hitters, as well as his endurance. Good mid-rotation southpaw.
Ambiorix Burgos - Can hammer the strike zone with a moving fastball that gets up to 98 mph. Keeps the offense at bay with runners in scoring position. Struggles with command over his breaking and off-speed stuff. Left-handed hitters' slug him far too well. Good setup man with closer potential.
Ben Johnson - Generates good power with a quick swing. Has decent speed and plays the outfield quite well. His plate discipline is a work in progress. Needs to improve his approach with runners aboard. Good fourth or platoon outfielder.
Adam Bostick - He emerged as a prospect in 2004 when he struck out 163 batters in 114 innings to lead the low Class A He pitches at 88-90 with a fastball that features a late hop that hitters have a hard time with. He can be over-reliant on his fastball and needs to trust his offspeed stuff more.
Scott Schoeneweis - Possessing good control and medium velocity, he is a solid ground-ball pitcher. He has three good pitches with the ability to throw them in all counts and is killer against left-handed hitters. He's proved flappable when the pressure is on. When his control does break down, he has the tendency to leave the ball up, and that can mean big trouble because his velocity is less than overpowering.
Matt Lindstrom - His fastball sits at 94-97 mph but is relatively straight and he has been working on various grips and finger pressures to increase movement. He has lacked a reliable second offering, but his slider has emerged as his second-best pitch. He throws it at 83-86 mph, but he has a tendency to get under it. He needs to improve his pitch selection.
Heath Bell - Generally a power pitcher, he has averaged nearly a full strikeout per inning but also proved to be hittable with a straight fastball with little late movement.
Brian Bannister - Has refined command over a big, swooping curveball, a nasty high-80s cutter and a fastball that hangs in around 90 mph. Not overpowering, so that command needs to be bang-on all the time. Can be inconsistent with control. Solid mid-back-end starter.
Henry Owens - Once a strong armed catcher who was put on the mound in college and told to figure out pitching, he is competitive, bright and has good control, especially with his four seam fastball, which often shows good movement. He has a short whipping arm motion that present potential injury concerns. He has had arm and back problems off and on since 2004.
Royce Ring - Has gained some weight and watched his fastball drop off to the mid to high 80s. He could bounce back, as his arm at one point was pretty lively, but with his current stuff, it's hard to project him as more than a middle innings reliever.
Posted by: Christian (aka MetsMan) | August 31, 2007 3:50 PM
Christian (MetsMan).....how comfortable are you that we will get to the post season?
Posted by: david | August 31, 2007 3:55 PM
I just read that Henry Owens is out until 2009 with a torn labrum. These young kids are getting overused all over the place.
And why is Pelfrey starting Saturday? Why not Phillip Humber? So many other teams are bringing up young arms for starts, why not us?
Posted by: angst24 | August 31, 2007 4:15 PM
Well Pelfrey's 0-9 record should explain that or is it 0-10? What a silly question
Posted by: david | August 31, 2007 4:16 PM
I am 100% sure that when the season is over this team will be playoff bound. History, talent level and the schedule all favors the mets. I think there is a slight possibility that they fall out of 1st by a game or two but then turn it on. They have the best talent and over a full season the best team will win. How far we go in playoffs on the other hand is another story. In the post season the best team doesn't always win but during the course if the season 99% of the time the best team win come out on top.
Posted by: Christian (aka MetsMan) | August 31, 2007 4:21 PM
surprise surprise what did I say about Owens possible injury issues. That short arm whipping motion he has is torture on your shoulder and elbow. Bad mechanics = injuries and he has bad mechanics.
Posted by: Christian (aka MetsMan) | August 31, 2007 4:23 PM
Boy I cannot wait until Monday morning to read what all of you optimistic people have to say when we get swept at Turner field. The Mets are struggling of late and they do not play good ball in Atlanta. They are facing Smoltz and Hudson who both have their number. So all of you Mets fans look in the mirror and enjoy the miserly 2 game lead we have over Philly. The Mets will either be tied for first or 1 game back by Sunday. Once again Willie does a poor job planning a strategy for a game. He is so conventional and boring. Never see Willie do something that is new or inventive to score runs or shake up the other team. If Willie played Baseball like years ago, his bullpen would not be so tired now. Let your starting pitchers pitch. 25-30 years ago, Seaver, Blue, Gibson, Carlton,Koosman, Ryan etc never worried about pitch count and look they were excellent pitchers. Stop micro managing the game. Play Ball!! So as a Met Fan maybe I look at reality and know our streak of being in 1st place is coming to an end. I know that my club is not as good as the Braves hitting. I know my bullpen is shot thanks to Willie and of course Omar. I know that the Mets will not make it. IF for some strange odd reason they make it they will not win the first round. I know that Willie sucks and he needs to go. I know that Omar needs to get some real players on this team and stop trading for hispanic players all the time. I know that Omar is going to trade the future this winter to get players once they put on the orange and blue fail. Send Willie back to Joe Torre and the Yanks and SEND Omar back to Washington.
Posted by: Omar has to go | August 31, 2007 4:27 PM
LISTEN TO THE FAN
WWW.FAN.COM AND WHAT JOE BENINGO SAID. HE ALSO FEELS THAT THIS TEAM SUCKS DUE TO PEA BRAIN RANDOLPH.
THANKS JOE FOR SAYING THIS FINALLY!!! SOMEONE IN THE MEDIA SEES THAT WILLIE SUCKS
Posted by: OMAR MUST GO | August 31, 2007 4:37 PM
Pelfrey is 0-7 silly! He is due and will win Saturday in Atlanta!
Posted by: Derek C. | September 1, 2007 5:30 AM