Tigers To Sign Free Agent Reliever Joel Hanrahan

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May 2

The Tigers have agreed to a deal with right-hander Joel Hanrahan, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports.

Detroit was one of five teams recently reported to have “strong” interest in the highly regarded reliever who is one year removed from Tommy John surgery.

Hanrahan, 32, is 22-18 with a 3.85 ERA and 100 saves lifetime, and he had 76 saves for the Pirates in 2011-12 when he made the All-Star team as their closer.

April 30

Jon Heyman of CBS Sports reports that the Tigers, Yankees, Rangers, Red Sox and Rockies are among the teams showing strong interest in free-agent closer Joel Hanrahan, who is likely to sign before holding another open showcase.

Heyman adds that the former Red Sox closer is believed to have already received multiple offers, and that at least those five teams are thought to be in the running for the hard-throwing two-time All-Star.

Hanrahan, 32, is 22-18 with a 3.85 ERA and 100 saves lifetime, and he had 76 saves for the Pirates in 2011-12 when he made the All-Star team as their closer.

April 25

Andy Martino of the Daily News checked in this week on a few free agents linked to Mets, and reports that the team still has not decided whether to pursue free agent reliever Joel Hanrahan.

Hanrahan threw well at a recent showcase, but isn’t quite ready to contribute. One evaluator told Martino that is still about a month away.

And, according to sources, there is no momentum on the Stephen Drew front.  The shortstop’s medicals and link to draft-pick compensation have scared off all suitors so far, and the there is nothing new between him and the Mets.

April 21

Mike Puma of the NY Post was told the Mets still have not discussed whether they will make an offer to free agent reliever Joel Hanrahan.

Close to 20 teams showed up to watch veteran closer Joel Hanrahan throw in a showcase at the University of Tampa on Thursday, and judging by the early reviews, don’t be surprised if there’s quite a bit of competition for the two-time All-Star, reports Jon Heyman of CBS Sports.

Teams have already discussing deals, but no word if the Mets are one of those teams

Scouts there said Hanrahan looked fit and healthy, and pitched at 87-93 mph, putting him possibly ahead of schedule for someone 11 months removed from Tommy John surgery.

Hanrahan, 32, saved 76 games in 2011-12 for the Pirates.

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  • Reese Kaplan

    The last I heard, Scott Atchison was still looking for a gig. He looks older than both Valverde and Farnsworth. That’s Terry’s kind of pitcher.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    No problem with signing retreads and reclamation projects as long as they are the “right” ones. smh

  • Taskmaster4450

    It might help to know what you are talking about before posting…it will make you look less ignorant.

    Atchinson is with the Indians and off to a good start. So him looking for a gig is incorrect.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yes well that is the mantra. And Alderson only seems to sign the wrong ones and other GMs always the right ones.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Hahaha. Ok.

  • Anthony

    Still depressed over frank francisco signing with the pale hose

  • jerseymet

    I’m waiting for Tim Byrdak and Perpetual Pedro to be signed to minor league contracts.

  • Xavier 22

    funny how selective memories can be

  • jaygreen55

    You mean like Latroy Hawkins, Jason Isringhausen and Marlon Byrd? Or do they not count. With reclamation projects you win some and you lose some

  • If they can get him cheap on a minor league deal, why not? Just like Abreu. Maybe they catch lightning in a bottle.

  • Taskmaster4450

    So is Byrdak.

    I think I saw him at the local bowling alley holding up a sign “Will pitch for peanuts”.

  • Lost in Queens

    Your not getting him cheap. Spend the money and get him. While were at it get a shortstop. Tired of hearing about wait till next year

  • Erin_II

    This guy?

  • Agee’s Catch

    What’s the asking price? I know he’s not getting a minor league deal.

    He’s throwing 87-93. How close is that to pre-surgery velocity?

    When will he be ready?

  • Agee’s Catch

    If we sign this guy, I expect him to close. Am I wrong?

    Based on his 2013 contract with the RedSox, I’d be willing to offer him 3.5M for 2014 and an option for 7M in 2015, if he makes 30 appearances in 2014. 500K buyout if he doesn’t.

  • BarnRat

    So if the Mets FO likes him and this is basically an auction process, our advantages are Citi is a pitchers’ park, we can commit to a significant late-inning role, and we’d probably be OK with a 2 year deal. Disadvantages: $$$$$. Good luck to us.

  • Rocky Thompson

    DIdn’t you hear? The Mets are going to win 90 games this season.

  • Rocky Thompson

    In your proposed contract, why do the Mets need to pay a buyout if his option is not vesting???

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Hanrahan is Joe D.’s boy! Go get him! o_0

  • oleosmirf

    Incentives, Incentives, Incentives.

    That’s how you can get him to sign without guaranteeing him a ton of money.

  • Biggle Boy

    I’m sure Sandy will wait for the market to come back to him. No rush. After all, it’s not like we only have 37 year old guys to close games, right?

  • Rocky Thompson

    Is there anyone on the Mets roster that they can trade that would free up say $3.5 million to sign Lanrahan??? That would solve two of the Mets three problems. The third being the need to upgrade SS.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I’d be willing to take a chance on Hanrahan.

  • But then it only takes one contract of guaranteed money to bury that idea.

  • I saw him there too but he was holding the sign with his right hand as he had injured his left shoulder when he held it too long earlier with his left.

  • oleosmirf

    Oh I have no problem giving him guaranteed money (1-2 million), but obviously the Mets are not going to give him anything more than that given his injury concerns.

    Give him a deal similar to Dice-K, just with more lucrative incentives.

  • Ice Cold Beard Shine

    Selective? Sandy’s projects are mostly failures. They seem to serve asPR stunts if anything.

    The worst believer in these projects is Terry. What a tool!

  • Ice Cold Beard Shine

    I don’t understand why he signed Young, based on the OF depth and not because Cruz was available. What did he see in the SS, 1st base positions and the BP to warrant no significant signings. Why not go for more balance. Why leave glaring holes?

  • Off Topic: Good read by the Times titled “Who made that relief pitcher?”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/20/magazine/who-made-that-relief-pitcher.html

  • Jgreen

    Wow so many teams need to fill their hole. Hanrahan surly knows when to enter the market.

  • If close to twenty are in in him, we’re most definitely out. Carry on.

  • Agee’s Catch

    i’m clueless?

  • jaygreen55

    That’s a lot of money for a pitcher coming off Tommy John only 11 months ago.

    No way you can expect him to pitch with any great frequency and back to backs would probably be out of the question. You’d have to start him out as a 7-8th inning guy and it’s unlikely he can give you more than Farnsworth is right now

  • Wolfmicky21

    Just like Stephen drew…

  • Guest

    does he want the league minimum? If not, then Ol Sandy is out…Besides we have Valverde..who needs a closer?

  • schadenfreudianslip

    Awesome. I’d react that way too if someone was spouting off about my wife!

    Not enough Slap Shot references in this world! Now excuse me, i have to go put on the foil.

  • schadenfreudianslip

    Boy you nailed it as always. Using facts and history to make your point. No bias. No ignoring reality. Just diving right in with your objective analysis. Well played sir.

  • metstastic

    and if he demands a multi year 10M/year contract, he will be sitting out just like Drew…

  • metstastic

    Rocky asked if there is anyone that we CAN trade. No one will take Ike’s contract.

  • metstastic

    Sure that’s going to happen with 20 teams interested.

  • metstastic

    What OF depth? You only had Grandy at the time.. Lagares was no sure thing to hit. EYj was your “4th” OFer.

  • Destry

    What most people fail to understand is that Drew and Boras hold all the cards now. They have turned down offers. They will get what they want. The Tigers, Mets, Reds, Pirates, Yankees, Red Sox, and every other team that has an injury to the middle infield between now and June will be bidding on Drew as we draw closer to the draft. How many 3.0 WAR SS are available without having to trade 2 or 3 of your best prospects to acquire at the deadline? ZERO……Sandy missed his opportunity.

  • Destry

    He saw a 1B that is hitting .275 3-HR 8-RBIs .800-OPS and will put up better numbers than a defensively challenged Kendry Morales at 1/10 the price. SS….is another story all together

  • Destry

    O’Flaherty got a 2/$11mil deal and isn’t recovered yet. Gavin FLoyd got $4+incentives and isn’t recovered yet. TJ is routine procedure now. Its estimated that in 10 years over half the pitchers in the league will have already had TJ, and they other half will at some point. 1/3 of all MLB pitchers have had or are recovering from TJ in 2014

  • Destry

    He was 96-98 touching 100 before the surgery

  • Agee’s Catch

    I’d have to think another 6-8 weeks?

  • Destry

    Atchison is not looking for a job, and is pitching well for the Tribe. He had a 1.50 ERA with the Red Sox in 2012 also. He wasn’t great with us because Terry ruins bullpen guys. They have to warm up every night to get one out, never knowing there role. Atchison is a classic ROOGY, yet Collins would throw him 2 innings at a time, and bring in Brandon Lyon for one out, Rice for one out, Edgin for one out, and repeat the process the next day. Management of the bullpen is the best way for RP to have a good season. They all have good stuff.

  • Ice Cold Beard Shine

    The infield could have used that 7 million.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    Yanks ?

  • elsid1986

    I guess they will discuss it once he is signed elsewhere.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Of course they haven’t. What kind of nut would think this team needs a talent upgrade?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Duda is cheaper, but I don’t think he puts up better numbers than Morales did last season.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Why does signing yet another “veteran,” this one coming off surgery, make a difference? “Want to win” ha!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    So he should sign the 32-year-old Hanrahan?

  • Charley’s Twin

    Rule #1 for a Met acquisition: no other team can be interested in the player.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Man. Lots of Hanrahan fans around here. Strange that we bash these reclamation projects and cry about Collins liking veterans, then we scream for 32-year-old relievers coming off major surgery as if they’re somehow different.

  • Alex68

    The mets ARE BROKE!!!!!! They just salary dumped Ike Davis, you really think they’d go and sign anybody else!?
    Sandy’s quick to release someone else’s mistakes, let’s see how long before someone mentioned what in the hell was he thinking signing FF and COLON to 2 year deals when nobody else wanted them and give CY $7.5 million to do nothing in NY… But hey, #GoodLuckIn2015??

  • Andrew Herbst

    We won’t sign Hararan. Sandy will take his time making an offer, while another team gets him.

  • lareplus

    We have talented pitchers at AS A. . .when rhey are up some will become star relievers. . .DK MAY become an effective in long relief. . .Montero or preferably DeGrom could be terrific closers. . .

  • Apparently the just offered John Rocker a deal including a case of beer, some smokes and a hunting rifle.

  • Charley’s Twin

    the truth hurts

  • Metsaholic

    Exactly. I don’t understand some of the rational of these post. They want the Mets, who have a recent history of spending large amounts of money on old players, coming off injury, on the back 9 of their careers…failing. Why should the Mets get in to a bidding war for such a gamble in Hanrahan? It’s not like they are a closer short of being in contention for a worlds championship.

  • Guest

    of course not. why spend money. let the pig wilpons pocket more money off Ikes contract…not like the Mets need a closer or anything. Im sure Farnsworth will save 40 games……BOYCOTT THESE PIGS

  • trevordunn

    when does sandy sign bill pulsipher to a deal. this GM is as ignorant as the pigs fred and jeff

  • metsfansince64

    I think it’s more a matter of fans being frustrated with the payroll and just wanting to see the Mets spend money, to reassure themselves that the team can actually afford to go out and pay to get someone (even if that someone isn’t really a good fit or carries a lot of risk). I don’t know that the name attached even matters.

  • Sylow59

    It is different. I know more than Balderson and the Wilponzis (especially Jeffy) and Collins is an idiot. He probably wouldn’t pitch Hanrahan because he thought he was 23. And if he did, well a blind squirrel sometime finds a nut. And by then Hanrahan would have festered and become useless. I hate everything about this team. I am a Met fan.

  • trevordunn

    32 is a kid compared to these 40 year old clowns…Hanrahan never pitched himself OUT of baseball, he was just injured,. big dif unlike your boy Valverde, Dice K and farnsworth who were one step away from the newark bears

  • Metsaholic

    Ike Davis, not withstanding. I don’t like the CY contract or the Colon contract. But the test is the Grandy contract. Grandy is not a player for a high K team with no other good hitters around him. Still, I get the gamble in signing him. But they really have to be ready to eat some contract by next year or 2016.

  • metsfansince64

    Yes, and all it cost Drew was at least $7 million dollars. Great job, Boras (sarcasm heavily on).

  • Sylow59

    Payroll bro. They need to spend more. The more they give Hanrahan the better he is.

  • trevordunn

    that 75 million dollar payroll is just too much to handle…

  • Metsaholic

    Well then the fans are just wrong, and we can’t blame the Wilpons for not giving in to this need to spend as proof of life. The fact that they went in on Grandy after Bay is shocking. I’m an owner…I say no.

  • Metsaholic

    LOL! 😉

  • Sylow59

    If we gave everyone a 33% raise it would be more than the Cardinals salary. Then we’d win. Excellent point. It doesn’t matter who is on the roster, only that we have a big salary.

    Wacha makes league minimum. He must suck

  • Alex68

    BTW, did anybody see the report of what the mets are getting for Ike Davis? they’re saying the PTBN is an 18 year old pitcher, round 8th of the 2013 draft… If that doesn’t scream payroll contractions, i don’t know what does….
    This ORG is a joke, fill with liars and not so good hearted people…

  • Charley’s Twin

    Are you suggesting there’s no room for a talent upgrade in the bullpen? That’s what it sounds like.

  • Charley’s Twin

    where did you see that?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Valverde is my boy? That’s news to me. haha

    Hanrahan is a reclamation project coming off major surgery. Let’s not pretend that you wouldn’t be at the front of the line crying about the Mets signing another guy off the scrap heap. I hope they sign him just so I can see all the amazing comments it will bring.

  • omar minayass

    of course they haven’t. why would they need to? they have a solid bullpen full of major-league level talent. no need to add someone like hanrahan.

  • trevordunn

    all the sandy lovers were here a few days ago saying the PTBNL is going to be a huge impact player LOL. what a joke

  • Metsaholic

    As the great Londo Milari would say. “I think you’ve got it surrounded”

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, you sound like you’re a big fan.

  • mets4lyfe

    I’ve heard the Mets have heavy interest in 38 year-old former closer Eric Gagne who hasn’t pitched in the Majors since 2008.

    Mets feel like they have a very good chance of signing him to deal.

  • Sylow59

    No. I’m mocking the idiots that believe if we overpaid every aging FA we would have clinched by now.

  • Metsaholic

    You need to check your hearing.

  • trevordunn

    sandy the idiot alderson could have traded Ike for Ryan braun or in a package for J Upton in 2012 and said no. He could have gotten Britton from BAL in spring training and said no. (Britton has a 0.00 ERA and is going to be named closer) instead this idiot holds onto Ike til he is worth nothing than trades him for a bag of balls. what a loser

  • omar minayass

    in regards to latroy hawkins, sandy said age “is not paramount, but important.” please note that we have a bullpen with valverde, farnsworth, and now the ageless wonder daisuke. i’m too lazy to look up their ages, but this guy is obviously just slingin poop to the media/fans/any other idiots who are dumb enough to follow this team

  • trevordunn

    they are negotiating with jesse orosco and bill pulsipher as we speak

  • metsfansince64

    I don’t understand why he signed both Young and Granderson for the outfield, when you already had EYJr., and Lagares, with Puello waiting in the wings (plus Kirk and DenDekker). One OF signing I can understand and approve. But Lagares had hit at every level and showed himself a terrific defender; Puello had excellent numbers in the minors; and either Kirk or DD would probably suffice, along with Andrew Brown, as depth in case of injury. So, given the black hole at SS, and the problems at 1B, why the heck use your limited resources on two signings for the OF, where you had tolerable depth, even if not great talent? As opposed to SS and 1B, or closer-type relief pitcher, for that matter, where you definitely had need.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Well, the bullpen stinks yet again, and improving the major league roster is not a priority. Yet again.

  • He will cost money. I am not sure we are in the money spending business. The somewhat good news is that he also might be a crapshoot. And we can’t be taking on any more crapshoots, can we?? Heck, why not?? What do we really have to lose.

    Ok, point one remains. We don’t have money.

  • Metsaholic

    overpaid every aging FA (who are also coming off injury)

  • trevordunn

    i moved to LA in 2009 and adopted the Dodgers as my 2nd team. you wanna talk about 2 dif worlds. Its like dating a supermodel and dating rosie o donnel. the mets are a little league team compared to LA. I feel sorry for my fellow met fans who are stuck with these gutless PIG Wilpons. luckily for me, I at least have a season to look forward to in LA. I suggest you guys all drop the pigs and find a new team. BOYCOTT

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    You really believe that Ike for Braun stuff, don’t you? hahahaha. Wow. Hate to be the one to tell you this, but Santa and the Easter Bunny aren’t real.

  • Lotus1209

    You think Sandy could have traded Ike for Ryan freakin Braun??!?!?

    Wow. If you honestly think that then you are more lost in your misery than I thought.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    See ya!

  • Ales68

    From Harper of the daily news:

    Some industry speculation that PTNBL in I. Davis trade is 18yr old RHP Neil Kozikowski, 8th rd. pick. 2 scouts say Mets reallly liked him.
    Pirates paid over-slot ($425,000) to sign Kozlowski. Threw 88-91 in HS, but at 6-4, 180, projects to throw mid-90s. In ext. S.T. right now.
    Scouts say Mets’ area scout Art Pontarelli scouted him heavily last spring, really liked him.

  • Guest

    whos closing next year btw? you know when the Mets are big contenders….LOL

  • Sylow59

    I was being sarcastic. I agree with you 100% that the complaining has become out if control.

  • Alex68

    Yup. i am sure they’ll say some ridiculous crap about 2020 and him winning CY etc… you know the drill…

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    It’s a totally unconfirmed report from a “source.” Excuse me. Not even a “source.” “Industry speculation.” Take a deep breath.

  • metsfansince64

    It was tweeted as “industry speculation”. Doesn’t mean it’s accurate, because another tweet, from the Pirates’ organization, has their GM saying that the Mets are choosing from a list. However, the reason for the industry speculation is clear: the Mets expressed considerable interest in the kid, whose name is Neil Kozikowski, RHP, very projectable supposedly, and the Pirates went overslot in the 8th round to sign him last year. Btw, the Pirates were rated by practically everyone as having the best draft last year.

    Obviously, if this is the kid – and that may or may not be the case – it’s way too early to know if he’s going to be anything.

  • trevordunn

    its common knowledge dude. They offered Braun. Gammons reported it as did Heyman

  • Metsaholic

    The bullpen has been streaky. It has not stunk. The real issue is the fact that the team doesn’t have a closer and they didn’t get a backup for Parnell. Mistake? Hell yes. But they should not over pay to fix it only to make the fans happy they spent money. Spend, yes. But spend wisely.

  • omar minayass

    your mother told me they were real.

  • Alex68

    It’s looking like once again, sandy pooped the bed, signing CY and COLON when we needed a 1B and a SS was as idiotic a move as i’ve ever seen…. to make matters worst, he still didn’t address those needs he said were the priority coming into the offseason… What a pathetic and awful GM we have

  • trevordunn

    misery? my team is in first place…you guys are the ones drowning in the pit of hell with freddy and jeffey boy

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Ah. Apologies then.

  • Sach

    I’m not that crazy about this guy. For me, just 87 as part of the range of his fastball from his last showcase is just too much of a red flag. I’d like to see the Mets give a shot to a young gun as their closer- Jacob deGrom that they can possibly move forward with if not Bobby P instead of bringing in another retread

  • Rocky Thompson

    If Drew holds all of the cards, I hope he likes solitaire.

  • metsfansince64

    Please take your own advice, and leave.

    Is there an ignore function here? If not, is there anyway to add one?

  • Why would they??! God forbid we get into a bidding war and show some balls for once!

  • omar minayass

    cerrone, stop posting under ur pseudonym & please just take care of your own POS blog.

  • Sylow59

    Old AND coming off an injury. Hmm, that gives me two things to complain about. Win-Win!!

  • Guest

    is John Franco available? He fits right in with the senior citizen brigade sandy is running…Armando? paging manny acosta?

  • mets4lyfe

    Yeah, probably Ike + Syndergaard + deGrom.

    Regardless of the PED cloud surrounding Braun, he’s still one of the game’s elite.

  • Alex68

    I heard that too, i almost lost it when i saw Britton was the main guy the Orioles were giving us… we have an awful GM who is somehow idolized by a bunch of losers who accept this situation and actually embrace it…

  • trevordunn

    in 4 years when Hanrahan is 36 and onhis way out of basbeall, the metsies will come running

  • omar minayass

    yeah, its called go to metsblog.com. this site is for people with a functioning brain only, so you probably should leave.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    hahahahahahaha. Burn.

  • Metsaholic

    Beautiful, perfect.

  • trevordunn

    remember when sandy wanted nothing to do with Brian Wilson. They claimed he lost his velocity…B Wilson was hitting 95 yesterday and 95 the day before.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Ah. Switched teams have you? That’s not surprising.

  • beers22

    What’s the logic of sending Brown down for Abreu????? I don’t get this move at all.

  • metsfansince64

    Gee, and to think I thought it was for trolls who root for the Dodgers, but have nothing better to do with their lives then come here and aggravate real fans who actually care about the Mets, instead of supporting their own team.

  • Guest

    sandy logic

  • Tommy

    I would much rather they bring some of the young arms up and see what they can do!

  • omar minayass

    i’m sure it involves paying bobby abreu some sort of money if we don’t have him on the ML roster by 4/30

  • Charley’s Twin

    definitely. I don’t mind the trade, but would sure like to see Ike’s salary reinvested in the team, since the Wilpons are quite clear that all their financial problems are over with (rolls eyes)

  • Sylow59

    I forgot Wacha, Lynn, Wainright, CMart, Rosenthal were lefties.

  • trevordunn

    super 2 super 2 super 2. the broke freddy and jeffey boy cant afford to risk it

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    hahahahahahahaha. You’re my favorite. Always there when I need a laugh.

  • Charley’s Twin

    144 games to go, and Kyle Farnsworth is our closer. How can this possibly NOT end poorly?

  • trevordunn

    it happened when he was public enemy no. 1 in mil….they would have pulled the trigger to get him out of there

  • metsfansince64

    I’m totally with ;you on that. I think it’s disgusting that all teams received an additional $35 million dollars in tv money this year, enabling practically every team out there – except the Mets – to retain players, lock youngsters up, etc. — and the Mets, with $40 million coming off the payroll, have the nerve to CONTRACT payroll instead. Absolutely outrageous.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    For a Dodgers fan, you spend an awful lot of time worrying about the Mets.

  • Sach

    Beers22, as Jared Diamond said on the right- Capt. Kirk backs up CF too. What if CY tweaks his quad again? Who would start in CF before Juan returns?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments
  • trevordunn

    unfortunately im still a mets fan as well. like you people, i cant cut the chord on these pigs freddy and jeffey boy…i do look forward to the day Matt Harv toes the rubber in SoCal because its coming. jeffey boy wont pay, and Kershaw is already buddies with him. lovely 1-2 punch that will be

  • goorru

    EY and Grandy play CF

  • metsfansince64

    Not that you care about the facts or anything else Mets-related, Mr. Dodger fan, but nobody said that. What people said was that the more significant part of the deal would be the PTBNL, but that it was probably a kid from the 2013 draft, so he wouldn’t be ready for years.

  • Alex68

    Regardles, this will end up being a salary dump just like with KROD, i said the same thing then as i say now.
    Reminder, for as long as sandy’s here, we won’t be a winning team.. Playoffs? not even close…

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Whatever you need to tell yourself. Keep one foot in the door just in case. I get it. 😉

  • trevordunn

    TC will bury Lagares in AAA. watch

  • Sylow59

    No problem.

  • elsid1986

    Sandy is saving his money for that big time acquistion at the deadline. LOL

  • Sylow59

    RIF: Reading Is Fundamental

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Ok.

  • Sylow59

    The Cardinals reduced payroll. I wonder 8 their fans are complaining?

  • Sylow59

    Lol

  • goorru

    Sandy slings poop and the media and some of the fans eat it up.

  • beers22

    So roster decisions are based on one series now? That’s a good way to run an organization.

  • beers22

    Abreu is 40 and and hasn’t been productive since 2011, why is he even here?

  • trevordunn

    brown will be back when he’s 38

  • JRB74

    Not that I necessarily want this guy, but the Mets bidding against several other teams? They won’t even bother.

  • Charley’s Twin

    They’re not complaining because their roster is complete and they go to the playoffs more often than 3 times in the last 25 years. Why is that difficult to understand for you?

  • Chuck

    Neither one of them have any evidence to back up their statements. If they did, they would have posted it. That said, those of us that are optimistic about the PTBNL have no evidence yet either. So, for both sides, it is all just conjecture. So I will just wait and see … until then, LGM!

  • Sunshine

    And yet someone did.

  • Sach

    Goorru, you might say EYJR and Grandy play CF. I say that’s pushing it. Neither of these guys are as good as Capt. Kirk in CF. Besides, this is probably not just a PH bat off the bench move. Maybe Capt. Kirk gets another start or two in CF vs. a RHSP with CY sliding over to a corner before Juan returns.

  • Alex68

    SL up in arms about Hanrahan, but if we sign the guy, these people will go back to Home depot to plan that statue construction…. again…
    I’ve never seen a fan base divided before by the awful work of a GM. i don’t get this… they’ve used all kinds of excuse, we’re patient, we understand how they’re supposed to build, wait until 2014, it’s not his fault it’s omar’s, not wait, it’s the wilpons, no wait, it’s actually the players they acquire because they suck, he doesn’t need money, unless the player he brings in for cheap doesn’t work out, because then, we have no money… etc… 3+ years of the same garbage, hipocrecy and double standard…
    These SL make me sick!

  • Taskmaster4450

    Here is the typical met fan base (the usual suspects) screaming for the Mets to sign someone.

    Here is a question for all you geniuses: does anyone know how he actually performed? What did he look like when throwing?

    So far, I havent read anyone making him an offer. If 20 teams were blown away, surely someone would have made an offer within 72 hours.

  • goorru

    I wouldn’t trust Sandy either way, he also looked at Kazmir last near and passed on him.

  • Sylow59

    Off topic. If the complaint is payroll and nothing else then responses should be based on comparative situations.

    And, btw, it appears that you agree that salary is not the driving force for wins.

  • Rocky Thompson

    So this “ORG is a joke” based upon “industry speculation”. There is also “industry speculation” that the PTBN is Austin Meadows.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Lol! You’re right. That’s the Moneyball philosophy.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Of course I agree with that. What I object to is refusing to address gaping, obvious holes in the roster (such as SS) when real solutions are available. St. Louis did just that when they signed Peralta in November. Meanwhile, we run Tejada out there and plan to go the next 144 games with Kyle Farnsworth at closer.

    And how is that off topic? The track record of the organization is fair game. We’ve been a 2nd division ballclub for five years running (will be six) and there is a complete lack of urgency to deal with that fact.

  • Sach

    Alex68, thanks for the lead with respect to the PTBNL in the Davis trade. I certainly wouldn’t discount a projectable SP prospect. Remember, Sandy initially wanted highly regarded SP prospect Nick Kingham in trade for Davis. I would prefer some sort of a SS prospect but I’m really not that crazy about Jones,Arbet or Frazier as a SS prospect. There’s certainly nothing wrong with trying to stockpile SP prospects in your farm system and then maybe making another trade from such down the line.

  • Metsaholic

    Yeah, but give SA credit for picking him up. He’s cheap and if he works out until they can trade, develop or find another option (which they have to do sooner or later) Great. Yes, he didn’t get a backup to take over for Parnell

  • MetsFAN660

    Amazing.

  • trevordunn

    what other big market big city team is horrible for 5,6,7 years straight? Other than the Mets, its the Cubs…the 2 biggest “loser” franchises in the sport. ..

  • trevordunn

    Sandy also passed on Brian Wilson because he thought his arm was dead. Wilson whos hitting 95-96 on the gun now

  • A team in contention could easily guarantee Hanrahan $3M+ and a MLB roster spot. If the Mets didn’t want to go over $2M for Hawkins, a healthy player who saved 10+ games last year, was great in the clubhouse and proved he could pitch in NY, why would Sandy roll the dice on this guy? For what, the run to 90, or even better, the playoffs?

    Ha ha ha ha ha. That’s entertainment!

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    lol crazy

  • TPT

    first of all Kershaw has his own worries health wise i’m from Los Angeles and everythings not rosey with him his injury is a shoulder muscle and tho its the back of the shoulder its a big concern and even if hes ok this year people and Drs in Los Angeles say it could be a progressive type injury….and its all fine to be down on the Wilpons because hes broke hes lies and he cheap ..but compared to the ‘LETS SPEND LIKE NEVER BEFORE AND RUIN BASEBALL AND WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP” L.A. Dodgers he just might be the lesser of two evils in my book

  • Taskmaster4450

    Maybe not but are you one who is screaming to sign Hanrahan without having any clue what he looked like?

  • Taskmaster4450

    Knicks, Jets, Rangers, Islanders, Nets

    Just to name a few.

  • TPT

    he”d roll the dice because his older been on numerous teams and hes coming off Tommy John surgery exactly SAs type of relief pitcher anybody but a young guy with nasty stuff that we have in our own system

  • Taskmaster4450

    And what teams have jumped at Hanrahan.? There were 20 teams watching so obviously the competition is going to be fierce. You would think someone would get going and make him an offer. Yet 72 hours later, we hear of nothing.

    By the way, how did he look on Thursday throwing?

  • Sylow59

    I was replying to a post strictly dealing with salary. You wish to change the subject.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Sylow59
    “The Cardinals reduced payroll. I wonder 8 their fans are complaining?”

    That’s what you said. If I were a douchebag like you I might have said “reading is fundamental” here.

  • JRB74

    Not only won’t they make an offer, they probably asked Hanrahan’s agent to validate their parking stub when they came to see him work out.

  • Sylow59

    Way to stay on topic.

  • TPT

    and was quoted as saying(Hawkins) he and his family loved N.Y. and wanted one more summer here……..another mind boggling move by brain dead SA

  • TPT

    1.35 ERA AND 5 SAVES SO FAR ..WHO IS THIS GUY YOU ASK? WHY ITS NONE OTHER THAN LATROY HAWKINS AND HIS OUT OF SIGHT 2 MILLION DOLLAR SALARY THAT SA REFUSED TO PAY A 40 YR OLD PITCHER..for all you Hawkin haters on here hahaha wow

  • MetsFAN660

    Let’s see where he is at the All Star break. My guess is that he’ll be back to being LaTroy Hawkins. Hey, I liked the guy a lot, but he wasn’t going to get the offer to close here, and that’s what he wanted to do. Good for him, and not the worst thing that ever happened to the Mets. By far.

  • TPT

    you mean the old Latroy Hawkins who came in when Parnell went down and saved 13 games and had a 2.35 era? that Latroy Hawkins ?oh ok i see.. or do you mean the one the all the young pitchers in the organization were heart broken when he left because they all gain invaluable experience from him because he lent so much of his time teaching them? that Latroy Hawkins? and tell you what for what they paid Lannan and what there gonna get out of him 5 saves for 2 million already would of been worth it.. he wanted 2.5 million and the Mets offered 1.5 million and look at how we upgraded the bull pen for 5 times more? answer is we didnt upgrade it at all we only spent 5 times more money

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Jeff Wilpon: “We didn’t make an offer to Hanrahan because he wasn’t an outfielder.”

    Just brace yourselves, people.

  • Bill Buckner

    Why wouldn’t we put the $3.5 million saved in the Ike trade toward signing Hanrahan and possibly address a glaring need? Because the Wilpons are our owners, that’s why…

  • Bill Buckner

    Not sure how the Jets or Rangers make this list. Despite the Jets not winning a superbowl in 40+ years, they’ve been a fairly consistent playoff team during my lifetime. The Rangers have been good but not great for a while as well. I don’t believe either team has gone 6 years without a playoff appearance in the last 30 years…

  • Metsaholic

    Goodness, a person needs to go to an AA meeting after reading all the rediculous whinning on this subject. Sigh.

  • Joey D.

    Hi TPT,

    Me too – I would love for LaTroy to “be back to being LaTroy Hawkins”. I wouldn’t even mind if he was the LaTroy Hawkins of 2012, 2011 or 2009 (2010 he was injured).

    There was no logical reason for the Mets not to have re-signed him after last year. Oh yes, I can understand at the time the fans being misled into believing Parnell did not have possible issues stemming from the neck surgery and not knowing how unreliable Black really was – but even then up to a point with it being a question of keeping Hawkins or not paying him the $1 million more which was not outrageous in terms of baseball markets go.

    Yet now, with more known regarding what the organization really knew – that they had genuine uncertainty about Parnell being able to return to the pitcher he was due to the neck surgery and that Black was not held in esteem by the consensus of baseball people in August of 2013 as he was perhaps a season or two before that – I do not understand why there are those who are simply not willing to now say in retrospect that Sandy Alderson did put money ahead of the ball club. There is no baseball methodology in the world that could justify doing anything else for we did not have the arms ample enough to replace him.

  • Joey D.

    Hi JRB74,

    LMAO – that was a good one. They probably brown bagged their own lunch with them as well.

  • Joey D.

    Hi TPT,

    Don’t even try going on that route. Remember how I was blasted when I mentioned how much LaTroy wished to stay in New York and wasn’t looking to go to a team assuring him he would be the closer? That was because we can take what people say with a grain of salt…. and yet, perhaps we cannot blame those for thinking that way after listening to Sandy Alderson the past three years.

  • Anthony

    If we are so pitching rich why is there no one to call upon

  • TPT

    your spot on Joey D

  • TPT

    nobody got bashed more than me and some guys on here played that game ” show me where he said that?” which i took the time to find it and posted it and of course nobody who bashed me acknowledged the post

  • Joey D.

    Hi TPT,

    Only picking up on your cue… 🙂

    Again, why is it so difficult for some to simply say Sandy considered not paying Hawkins what he was asking for- which was not outrageous for one in his position. – was more important than what was good for the team.

    Also, looking at it from Hawkins’ perspective, would one re-sign with a club that was only offering him $500,000 more than he was making the previous year after his performance not just in 2013 but based on his record four of the past five seasons with the scouting consensus being that LaTroy still had good stuff going on his pitches?

  • Taskmaster4450

    I really dont like the Mets uniforms. I understand the meaning behind it, but it looks bad.

  • Joey D.

    Hi TPT,

    Let’s just say we’ve both gone through the wars together!

    I know the frustration you feel when being accused of making things up and then providing the first person quotes in full – including in full what they were pertaining to – along with providing the links for everyone to read – with those articles not from an unknown but established website – and yet then being accused of twisting things around by others playing word games.

    What’s the worst you’ve been called? For me, the above is actually quite mild. So is being called a “straw man”, one with an agenda to prove and one who fabricates links that do not exists. My all time favorite is being called a pathetic person who wants to destroy the reputation of a fine human being (Sandy Alderson). Can you top that one? LOL

  • MetsFAN660

    Hating? Should I have written “I liked the guy” in big block letters? Hawkins is a great guy, and over his almost 20 career he has performed anywhere from good to awful. Usually, he’s good but not great, and that’s where he’ll probably wind up this year. That doesn’t mean that I hate him, and the fact that he left the Mets for what he thought was a better opportunity doesn’t mean the Mets screwed up. I mean, you do understand that he would have probably taken the Colorado closer gig even if the $ from the Mets were the same, right? Stop looking for reasons to be angry.

  • mikeyknows

    if they dont make an offer, its goes to show the mets owners are flat broke especially they save $$$ on the davis trade.

  • stemog

    Starting pitching is fine, that’s where the strength lies. I know many people think you can just plug a guy in anywhere, but that’s not the case. A starter doesn’t warm up the same as a reliever.

  • Destry

    And isn’t he injured again?

  • Destry

    That’s so funny. You are getting a fake Matt Cerrone report in which he cited himself as the source confused with reality. He had to publicly apologize the next day.

  • Pike Miazza

    The camo look on a baseball uniform has never looked good..

  • Pike Miazza

    They have money somewhere…remember, they offered Balfour $14M he turned down…

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    1.74 ERA and two saves so far…Why it’s none other than Kyle Farnsworth at far less cost!

    I’d like to have Hawkins too and they probably should have paid him, but you can find closers anywhere.

  • Metropolitan

    again the draft pick compensation needs to be fixed in some way ,it does not seem kosher that a team that wins the world series that year or make the playoffs for that matter should not be able to stockpile extra draft picks and a non playoff sub 500 team like the Mets have to lose pick(s) if signing these players with the qualifying offers

  • Sach

    I seriously doubt the Mets throw their hat in the ring for this guy- just too questionable now to hand the closer role to plus all the Mets FA are basically- ” Let’s cast our line in the shallowest FA waters, hey we got a bite, let’s reel him in.”

  • $14435385

    They’re waiting to see how many camo jerseys they can sell to assess if they can afford him…

  • DKNOKOZ

    “Farnsworth can earn a base salary of
    $1.5 million, with a bonus of $75,000 for 40, 45, 50 and 55 appearances.
    That then increases to $100,000 for 60 and 65 appearances. He can also
    earn $100,000 for 30 and 35 games finished, $250,000 for 40 and 45 games
    finished and $300,000 for 50 games finished”

    far less cost? you sure about that?

  • mets4lyfe

    In other news, The Mets are close to signing 38 year-old Eric Gagne.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    hes too young

  • mets4lyfe

    They’re going for a little bit of youth this time.

  • $14435385

    Totally unrelated note, but I was looking over Greg Maddux’s stats last night, particularly from 1995…just astounding. 19-2, 1.63 ERA, 209 innings in 28 starts (just under 8 a game), 8 home runs, 23 walks (3 intentional) and 181 Ks. He had a .811 WHIP. .811. Truly inhuman.

  • $14435385

    They’re trying to catch lightning in a growler.

  • mets4lyfe

    Collins was asked about the possible acquisition of Eric Gagne.

    His response, “We got ourselves a proven closer then”.

  • RyanF55

    Of course, adding him hurts the team in no way. We certainly can use BP depth, it will all come down to compensation.

  • RyanF55

    I loved to hate watching him pitch haha

  • Metstheory22

    I would be trying to develop a young closer (Familia?) at this point instead of a guy that is not long term.

  • mets4lyfe

    Probably because they’re hesitant to spend money on Major League talent.

  • $14435385

    Too many cooks in the kitchen…

  • Bill Buckner

    A second team? Really? Bandwagon much?

  • Bill Buckner

    I think we know they are not “undecided” – in fact they are very much decided…on not getting into a bidding war with other teams for any commodity. The only guys they signed during the offseason had little to no interest from anyone else. That’s no accident, folks.

  • lareplus

    I don’t want him. . .we need a shortstop more than another risky reliever. . .spend the money there.

  • Taskmaster4450

    If you recall, him and Glavine used a plate that was 4 inches wider than everyone else.

    He got all the calls a few inches off the plate.

    But it is amazing his run during the steroid era.

  • mad met

    Degrom

  • $14435385

    Years ago I saw a video of Wayne Gretzky hitting a target the size of a quarter with wrist shots one after the other from about 25 feet. …Maddux had freakish control like that, too. If he was throwing 4″ outside, it’s because he knew the umpire was calling that a strike. If the ump wasn’t, he didn’t throw there. I’ve never seen anyone control a baseball like Maddux could in his prime.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Seriously doubt the Mets let him sniff much of those incentives. These penny pinchers won’t allow him to cost more. They’ll move on quickly. They’ll also mix and match closers as they already have.

    More than likely it ends up being the same at most but probably not even.

    So yeah, I’m reasonably sure about that.

  • RS

    What about Bobby?

  • Jakal42400

    They have to start going the Cardinals way. You have a plethora of starting pitching, throw them in th BP where they can help right now on a ML level. Not neccessarily Syndergarrd, a top rank prospect, but others who have exceeded expectations (ie. DeGrom, Montero). Let them help in the big leagues.

  • RS

    He doesn’t K enough to stay effective in that role. No one expects him to continue to have success. He’s a good player, nice to have around, but far from a solution to the mets closer problems IMO.

  • Metstheory22

    If you mean Parnell, he could be back next year or could take longer to pitch again. We can’t say what he is going to be next year, at this time.

  • Des

    Sandy Alderson is a superstar at getting value for his money. Sure he’s made a mistkake or two, but overall Sandy is supershrewd. From the bottom of my heart, i say: Thanks Sandy.

  • ari

    Mets need to bring up degrom Hes ready and has a power arm . Torres is over worked and Farnsworth won’t be reliable. Also how long will we. Have to watch tejada and his 200 average

  • Mookie’sRight

    Des, SA is not shrewd. Giving Grandy 12Million a year for 3 years is Jason Bay Dumb.

  • oleosmirf

    non-tendered and will be auditioning for teams this time next year.

  • Once they get past Super Two deadline, the Mets will probably boost the bullpen by adding deGrom and Montero, and whatever one or two relievers still pitching well. They won’t spend on Hanrahan and might not need to. What they need to do is make a decision on SS.

  • metsman

    Good.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    The Mets have plenty of young guys they can call up. If they wanted, they could totally revamp their bullpen overnight at almost no cost.

    No reason to go out and sign another retread.

  • metsman

    The worst part of his track record ( can’t include Grandy or Young yet…if at all) would be overpaying for “proven” relievers.

  • Andrew Herbst

    This is a smart move. I’d rather call up guys like deGrom and Montero than take a risk on Hanrahan,

  • Anthony

    I can’t get too worked up either way. I just don’t expect us to be in the mix for these type personnel moves. Call it apathy

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    What type of personnel move is this? Another retread? Another guy looking to get his career back on track?

  • RyanF55

    Guess they didn’t like what they saw, but with Valverde/Farnsworth in the pen, I would of thought they would explore it. Not a huge deal…hopefully one of the young kids can come up and produce.

  • Joey D.

    Hi David,

    I think Ron, Keith, Doc, Cleon, Kooz and the Glider should sent that open letter to the wrong people. 🙂

  • Joey D.

    Hi TGWLC,
    Don’t you know what that means? We won’t even bother spending money on retreads any more! It’s a minor league contract or nothing!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I don’t see why they should spend money on retreads just to prove they have money to spend. Really silly to me.

    Sandy has repeatedly used the phrase, “making a move for the sake of making a move” and it’s not his style. That’s what Hanrahan would be.

    You’d be happy they spent money, then rip them for signing a retread as soon as he showed any cracks.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    It doesnt work that way to bring up all untested unproven rookie arms like some Mets fans who state we have tons of arms after Super2…
    [FYI Super2 for bullpen arms are a friggin joke]…

    ALL successful bullpens have experienced VETS who continuously throw strikes.

    NONE of the Mets bullpen prospects have shown that ability to throw strikes repeatedly.

    Black = Wild
    Familia = Wild
    Leathersich = Wild
    Walters = Unknown what he can or cant do.
    DeGrom = Starting pitcher you HOPE will be able to pitch out of the pen
    Montero = Starting pitcher you HOPE will be able to pitch out of the pen

    Added to the fold of

    Germen = 2nd year pro still a ? mark
    Torres = Has been a revelation can he keep it up
    Rice = Arm will fall off soon
    Farnworth = Arm hanging by a string
    Valverde = Arm hanging by 2 strings

    Dice K = Has looked fine in the pen thus far BUT isnt he the insurance 6th Starter for the rotation? And will this success out the pen continue?

    The smart move is ALWAYS add DEPTH!!! Especially depth the caliber of Hanrahan whom was one of the best closers in the game not too long ago.

    We currently have NO CLOSER and for those waving the Dice-K as closer flag remember it wasnt too long ago they were also waving the Valverde flag now they are burning it.

  • Opti-Mets-tic

    If Vegas was taking bets on it, I’d bet the team he signs with is neither of those 5 reported. (That is pretty much always how it works). The teams NOT in on him, are the ones willing to try and drive the price up.

  • Guest

    tigers/yankees/rangers/red sox=big market teams that want to win and spend money…mets=small market also rans……im sure sandy will find some 40 year old on the scrap heap…

  • Peter S

    I don’t see this happening. The mets bullpen with Torres, Dice K, Farnsworth is doing a great job right now.

  • billpulsipher

    yea because Dice K and Farnsworth are going to be lights out all year….get ready for the day they implode because its coming…just ask valverde

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    You wouldn’t slap a question mark on Hanrahan?

  • CyYout

    I didn’t know where to post this. As of now, only 5 teams have a better record than the Mets despite their seemingly brutal early schedule: Tigers, A’s, Braves, Brewers, and Giants.

  • KMO82

    Would you see this happening if they weren’t doing a great job? Until this team identifies a weakness and goes out and fills that need by obtaining a player and increasing payroll I will continue to be skeptical they have the ability to do so. Yes, they signed a few guys this winter but they could have done more and payroll was still 10M of what it was last year and they have only trimmed that 3 more million by trading Ike. I’m all for spending wisely but there will come a time this organization will need to step up.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Of course not…he comes with a high price tag and was something two years ago.

    Velverde was something two years ago but is crap because he signed a minor league deal.

    That is the difference.

  • Joey D.

    Hi TGWLCW,

    It was just a joke about the state of the financial situation.

    I agree with you about the retreads 100 percent. But I have a friend who is into rotisserie league and thus insists these types of signings represent a sound fiscal policy if one believes his team is not good enough be expected to win and is still rebuilding.

    I keep on arguing with him that one cannot expect to win when one goes out and stockpiles the team with so many of these types of players. His reply is to wait to the young kids further develop and then go out and get better quality players.

    I think many are going to be quite upset looking back at this season if this team does surprise us all and finishes up with about 84 wins or so games thinking what we could have accomplished if instead of going after retreads we went after players who could have made the different in those six other games that could have given us the 90 wins that Sandy said he wanted.

    … or didn’t have the attitude of my friend who still things we are in the rebuilding stage and should not invest in quality free agents at this time.

  • Taskmaster4450

    You dont understand the spend spend spend crowd.

    Sandy needs to spend money to proves he cares about winning. Absent that he is punting.

    Hanrahan is great signing because he costs money….until he fails then he is Marcum and Sandy wasted the money then.

    Of course, all the people calling for the signing wont mention it again…much like the BJUpton crowd vanished.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Gotcha.

    Kind of like, “Our bullpen is full of “what ifs” and retreads, so let’s sign a guy coming off TJS because he’s available.”

  • Bob Walsh

    Yet everyone of the teams in the hunt all have superior bullpens.

  • Bob Walsh

    Interesting, isn’t it … that the teams mentioned all have top shelf bullpens. Yet the Mets, with a solid bullpen, yes, have no need for a closer?????

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Not the Yankees, not Texas and not Detroit. Of the interested teams, only Boston and Colorado have better bullpens.

  • Anthony

    Maybe they would sign him cause they thought he could get outs. A novel concept. He isn’t 40 years old either he was relevant just two years ago an his performance was not of issue. Injuries happen. I would take him over valverde in a second

  • 3doza33

    I don’t mind not going after him. What really hurts is that most of us wanted Abreu! He is doing exactly what most of us knew he would do in Chicago. We could of had him instead of Grandy and had extra money for Drew! Ugh! I am actually a Duda fan but Duda would look great in Satins spot with Abreu giving Wright the protection he needs. What a difference he would have made!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    What was Valverde doing two years ago? And the year before? He was plenty good.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    They all have top shelf bullpens? You sure about that? Detroit has one of the worst bullpens in baseball, as does Texas.

  • Bob Walsh

    So using this logic … why Granderson, coming off two injuries and, for the record, much younger than BJ Upton? Yankees didn’t want him.

    He’s the essence of a spend, spend, spend type of FA signing … especially when you had Largares and Puello, on a team rebuilding from the farm, to play the same position.

    The FA signings by Alderson have been putrid … that’s my idea of the spend, spend, spend crowd, of which you are apparently one.

    Hanrahan was lights out before his surgery. That’s the bet you make with him.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    How was Granderson before his injuries last season? He was garbage? Same bet, more money.

  • Bob Walsh

    I’ll answer this way. Unlike you, the five minutes or so I have to post have expired. Look it up.

    I can tell you this … that four of the teams are playoff teams, year in and year out. Must be a coincidence.

  • oleosmirf

    yes he should, he’s most likely an improvement over our worst reliever, no?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Ah. Changing it to playoff teams, not better bullpens. Convenient. I did look it up. That’s how I know you’re wrong. You can do it too.

  • Bob Walsh

    Its not the same bet. Its about $50 million reasons why its ridiculous to even make the statement.

  • oleosmirf

    The difference is simple. If Hawkins shows his age and sucks, he still gets 2.75 million

    If Farnsworth does that, he gets paid much less.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    It is the same bet. They’re betting he’ll be good for them. It’s more money.

  • Bob Walsh

    In the very few minutes I have to post — unlike a troll like you — I took a stab that teams that win 90 plus games year in and year out have top flight bullpens.

    Of course, if you’re using the very small sample of this year …

  • Bob Walsh

    Money changes the nature of a bet … but that may be a bit more abstract for you to grasp.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I know. Someone who points out your mistakes is a “troll.” It’s okay. You’re sensitive. I understand. I will refrain from pointing out your errors. You probably assumed they had better bullpens because they have higher payrolls. It’s fine. I understand.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yes, it’s very abstract.

  • Bob Walsh

    The Mets bullpen for the past 5-6 years has been just about the worst in baseball.

    If you were intent on keeping this a Mets issue, you would welcome a player like this. Of course, you’re so drunk with the Kool aid you think that the Mets already have a closer on the team.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Ah. Now it’s over the last 5-6 years, not this season. Keep changing things to suit your argument.

    You move goalposts better than Sandy does.

  • Bob Walsh

    Somewhere along the way you have transposed the term witty with obnoxious.

    Look, I have to go. Have a career to get back to. Nice chatting. Keep on. Apparently there is nothing else in your existence.

    Its amazing … no matter when I pop onto MMO, you’re posting / trolling. You’ve already replied to my every post.

    Truly sad and pathetic.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I know. You’re so busy. While you’re not here, try looking up a stat or two. It’ll make things easier.

  • Bob Walsh

    And a dab of deflection … don’t address the point, make some childish attempt at wit. It is embarrassing … you just are way too smart to see it, I guess.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Stop wasting your precious time on trolls like me! You’re oh so busy!

  • Bob Walsh

    I think its called projection, genius.

    Nobody moves the goalposts more than you do. You are such a clever, witty boy.

    Keep trolling on.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    You’re so busy! Don’t waste your precious time on me!

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Agree, about abreu they once again choose the cheeper path or excuse not to sign the better ballplayer. Other notable ones: bay instead of holladay, saying vlad gurrero had a bad back, saying arod wanted his own plane, etc i can go on.

  • Captain America

    It’s embarrassing reading your posts.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    OT for a minute: Anybody heard about OPRAH buying the Clippers? I never thought she would consider being an owner of a sports team. I kinda wish she would buy out the Wilpons now.

  • SCarton12

    I don’t agree with you, but that is a good point.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments
  • Rocky Thompson

    IMO this decision is not based on money. The Mets just saved $3 million trading Ike Davis and offered Grant (Ball Four) Balfour a substantial contract. Speaking of Balfour, he has a 6.10 ERA and 9 BBs in 10.1 innings.

  • Bob Walsh

    Can you possibly be more of a loser?

    You dont even have the guts to use your real name and photo.

    That’s a troll and you are a gutless troll.

  • SCarton12

    and the Bourne crowd. However, I do think they have the money and the need for better BP arms.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Hanrahan is just as much a question mark as anyone in our bullpen now and at far greater cost. Say what you will about Valverde and Farnsworth, but at least they’re healthy.

  • Bob Walsh

    Captain America saves the day!

    Pathetic little troll.

  • SCarton12

    The only problem with Hanrahan is that he is strictly a fastball (98-100mph) pitcher. I feel if he only gets back to 94-95 he won’t be successful.

  • Captain America

    I truly wish there was an ignore feature on MMO.

  • Captain America

    If you, and we all ignore him eventually he will go away

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments
  • Bob Walsh

    You’re probably right. But I don’t think they have to pay full price and it might be worth it since the team obviously is playing better.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    He’s a very busy man.

  • Bob Walsh

    You got the tights, too, captain?

    There is an ignore button imbecile. You replied to me. I completely ignore your posts.

    Captain America. Saving the world from me. You should be very proud.

  • Bob Walsh

    From the car loser boy.

  • Bob Walsh

    Go tell mommy that you have been mean today.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    LMFAO I’m crying

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Haha. My favorite gif.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Easy grandpa.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Don’t use your phone in the car. It’s dangerous.

  • Bob Walsh

    So now it’s an insult to be a grandfather?

  • Bob Walsh

    Hey loser. Get out some more. Put down the mouse. There’s a real world out there.

    It’s called blue tooth. Comes with the car.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Nope.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Ok. Good. Just want to make sure you’re safe.

  • Bob Walsh

    Apparently it is to you, smart guy. You certainly said it in a mocking way.

    Easy grandpa is what you wrote. And that’s not a disparaging remark of grandfathers?

  • Bob Walsh

    Pathetic little twit.

    You should be so lucky. Of course you’d have to have a life and a girlfriend or a wife.

    So how does your day go? 50% trolling here and 50% trolling porn?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, that’s about right.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Of course not. I’d never do that. Our elders are some of our most valuable members of society. Living history, if you will.

  • Bob Walsh

    So you are mocking grandfathers and people older than you?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Absolutely not.

  • Bob Walsh

    You actually turn to one of the biggest trolls on MMO for support?

    Maybe the tights are, well, too tight, and are restricting any sense of intelligent thought.

    Yes, have me me boycotted by two trolls …. please, please, please.

    Funny, Captain … but my articles are among the top read articles on MMO, with thousands of replies, and tens of thousands of readers.

    No, I don’t think I’m going anywhere. But, hey, in your wasteland of a life, I’m glad I give you meaning and purpose.

  • Bob Walsh

    I see you and the Captain are buddies now.

    Tell me, is it his tights that first got your attention?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Sure was.

  • Bob Walsh

    Curious. Does he take his shield to bed?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    No. He hangs it up.

  • Bob Walsh

    Well, you finally got one chuckle.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    See, you love me. Just admit it.

  • Bob Walsh

    Let’s not go off the deep end.

    You can be paradoxically amusing. Though I’d wish you’d better sublimate your talents in a more useful way.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Don’t run away from your feelings, Bob.

  • SCarton12

    With all these other teams involved, he’s going to get more than full price. I think this BP is fragile and thin. I hope help is on the way.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Lol…Exactly.

    If the report stated that Sandy Alderson was allover Hanrahan we’d be hearing how on top of things Alderson was….you cant make this stuff up.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I DONT either that was more interim as in 2014 if a rotation spot is available. Since we’ve already heard the Mets are rumored to give him a taste in the pen this year due to innings limit etc.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Who said he came with a high price tag???

    NO ONE….

    Also 1 would figure he would take a little less to pitch for the Mets since we are the only team on that list with a WIDE OPEN SPOT at closer. Where he can REBUILD his value….You know just like NELSON CRUZ whom everyone was shocked he took so little to rebuild value.

    Put your propaganda filled agenda to bed already

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    And Hanrahan is healthy as well.

    FYI Wasnt Farnsworth shaking that arm after an outing and Collins had to check in on him. And his response when asked about his arm health was, “IM OLD”…

    Sadly his next outing he couldnt touch 90mph and was ineffective. Soooo there is that

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Until Farnsworth is on the DL, I assume he’s fine and healthy. And I’m pretty sure that was after he saved a win, so there is that.

    Hanrahan is healthy…for a guy coming off TJS. He probably comes with usage restrictions, at least to start. I’m not saying they shouldn’t sign him, but let’s not pretend it’s a slam dunk, no-brainer.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LMFAO…Sounds like an accurate of him to me.

  • Bob Walsh

    He’s my personal troll. He replies to everything I say.

    I truly think he’s addicted to posting on MMO.

    All the frothing trolls are out now. 15-11 and you’d think Alderson invented baseball.

  • Bob Walsh

    Are you a deranged stalker?

  • Kabeetz

    We have Farnsworth and Valverde, two veteran STUDS who are no doubt not only the closers of the present but also of the future. No need to look into a viable, affordable, dependable closer.

    That would be like throwing good money after bad on a shortstop.

  • lindro88

    Look at that list. No way the Mets are outbidding any of those teams. I’m sure they aren’t passing because they are comfortable with Farnsworth or Valverde. Hanrahan is no sure thing. Very few rp’s are. Those teams can afford to take a shot and be wrong. Unfortunately the Mets can’t. Our bullpen help will hopefully come from within.

  • Dan Feinstein

    This guy bob seems to take things very personally. You’d think him being an elder guy that he would know to not respond to someone messing with you. Also kinda fruity he has to mention he gets “thousands of readers”

    Good job TGWLC

  • MetsFAN660

    I just heard Bob Apodaca is thinking of a comeback. They should sign him too. Whatever it takes. And for every Jose Abreu out there, who may turn out to be a good player, (although adding another 1B when they already had 3 didn’t make sense to me), there is a Bourn-Upton-Hughes-Arroyo-Peralta combo of players that people shrieked about letting other teams have, who would have been busts here. Are you sure you guys actually like the Mets? You seem to want them to do stupid things.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yawn. One less retread to talk about. Whatever shall we do? How will we survive?

  • metsman

    3.85 ? Is that his salary or ERA?

  • That is a fabulous gif.

  • metsman

    You are the greatest ever for posting this…my chest hurts.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    The dumbest thing a GM could do is “NOTHING” to improve the team. Which Sandyy has done a great job of so far

    2009 = 70W-92L

    2010: 79W-83L
    2011: 77W-85L
    2012: 74W-88L
    2013: 74W-88L
    2014: ??W-??L

    NY Mets record through the first 27 games since 2010

    2009: 14-13
    2010: 15W-12L
    2011: 11W-16L
    2012: 14W-13L
    2013: 12W-15L

    2014: 15W-12L

    Courtesy of @Wilponzi’s research

    So please tell me, what so different about the 2014 Mets from past Mets teams???And why exactly should I or any fan be more excited this year???

    ——————————————————————-

    P.S. You mention Bourn,Hughes, Peralta and Arroyo…2 players(Bourn, Peralta) that Alderson wanted to sign NOT fans…

    But more important you leave out Granderson, Colon and Chris Young….3players Alderson DID SIGN who can be viewed as BUSTS!!!

    B. Colon: 5.65era—1.44whip
    C.Grand: .141/ .252/.217/.470
    C.Young: .233/.283/.419/.701

    Do you see how that works…..I love how you Sandy lovers skew things to make it seem favorable. All agenda driven HALF TRUTHS rather than giving the facts.

    You also could mention the players that many wanted that ARENT looking like BUSTS

    Abreu, Diaz, Justin Upton, Napoli, Cruz etc etc etc.

    There is nothing worst than a self righteous bozo that feels he can question other Mets fans fandom and loyalty to the team are you sure you arent related to the Wilpons and Sandy and had a part in writing that letter???

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Hahaha. It’s my favorite gif of all time.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    How does Hanrahan improve this team? He can’t even start pitching until June. Why wouldn’t we just bring in fresh arms from within because that’s all Hanrahan is: a fresh arm. He’s as much a question mark as anyone else in our bullpen. He’s not 40 but he’s coming off surgery. To their credit, at least Farnsworth and Valverde are healthy and can be used normally.

  • billpulsipher

    Kyle Farnsworth to the rescue

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Haha. Tigers sign Hanrahan and he immediately goes on the DL. If the Mets did that fans would be pulling their hair out, unable to type their complaints fast enough.

  • I think we’ve reached the max number of over 30 retreads in the bullpen, allowed by the players’ union anyway.

  • Guest

    You mean like signing Granderson, just about a retread after missing all of last year, for $60 million and he’s batting .133 a month into season?

    Or spending $20 million on a 41 year old retread with the 5 plus ERA and a 2-4 W/L record?

    Or maybe the $7 million spent on a one year retread batting .233?

    Is that what you mean? Get it now. Brilliant post. Set us all straight.

  • Guest

    Nice post. The Mets would be winners if the season ended May 1. Just like this year.

    Break out the pom, poms, you kool-aid drinkers. Salavation is upon you and your leader, the great and masterful SA.

  • guest

    Oh great genius. Unless you crawled out from under a rock, ALL Mets fans know he would start on the DL. He’s hurt, oh great one who posts all day long.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    So Hanrahan is the answer? The guys can’t even pitch until June…maybe.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Is that supposed to be some sort of counter argument?

  • guest

    Duh, I don’t know. Is it? Make too much sense for you, oh great one?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Haha. Ok.

  • guest

    Yes, oh great and perceptive one.

    The retreads we have now will break down by then and he will fill in the ‘retread’ gap. Get it? Mind you, not a plan for your brilliant leader, the know all, see all, do all SA. I bow now.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Haha. You’re going to fit right in around here. I can tell. Welcome.

  • guest

    Oky, doky, partner. See you down yonder ways.

  • MetsFAN660

    I think it’s one of the regulars who is not signed in. Otherwise, yes, another howler.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, I have a good idea.

  • MetsFAN660

    I’m thinking Walsh. Or one of the other names he uses. 🙂

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    😉

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol…nicely done

  • Taskmaster4450

    It is so predictable. The same fans attack no matter what.

    Here is the deal. These fans want Hanrahan signed because he makes money. He didnt pitch in a year (but for a few games) and is two years removed from any success. This is exactly the same a Velverde but since he was on a minor league contract, that does not count. So spend the big bucks to prove you care about winning.

    Of course, if Alderson signed Hanrahan and he struggled, the attacks on Alderson would be non-stop. Remember Marcum? He is stupid, doesnt know how to spend money, etc…

    One other point that is of interest….when the guys are passed on by the Mets and do suck, notice how quiet these people get. I remember the attacks that the Mets/Alderson were too cheap last year to give Scott Hairston $8M over two years. How did that work out? He hit .191 last season and has 2 ABs this year. How about all those who were screaming that Alderson should have given Balfour more money to coax him into signing with the Mets? Where are those people now that his ERA is about 6?

    This comment was written with TGWLC in mind…did I about sum it up?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Hahahahaha.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I’m honored and humbled.

    And yes, that about sums it up. Where’d the “Ike’s going to have a huge year!” crowd go?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    And if Alderson had signed him and did that you’d be stating how it was a depth move and he will be here to help us later this month into the 2nd half and end of the year.

    No harm no foul like all of you SANDY LOVERS said for Farnsworth Valverde, Abreu etc etc etc

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    No. I’d be making jokes about it being another retread, just like I’ve been doing. It would be me and you and the rest of #TheCORE making “retread” jokes.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Your full of it here task it is NOT a big money deal.

    It is an INCENTIVE LADEN DEAL….Meaning the deal depends on his production. So your argument goes out the window…..NEXT

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I dont make retread jokes unless the person is useless like Bobby Abreu

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Well, you have at least a month to come up with comments about Hanrahan so that’s plenty of time.

  • metsman

    If Valverde, Farnsworth, Hawkins, Hanrahan were all my in my pen I wouldn’t be excited about using any one of them. I’d ride the hot hand and hope for the best. This is relief pitching…you’d think some of you have never watched this game before with all the Monday morning QBing going on.

  • Taskmaster4450

    What is ironic is I actually think Ike is going to put up good numbers in Pittsburgh with that short RF. The difference is I didnt see him doing it with the Mets.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Joe D. does interviews on that other blog? I thought we hated that other blog.

    http://metsblog.com/audio/this-weeks-metsblog-qacast-presented-by-verizon/

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I also thought we were supposed to be crying about giving the “kids” their chance. Now we want to block them with guys like Hanrahan? Guys coming off TJS? The youth movement at least makes sense to me. Not this move.

  • Taskmaster4450

    No it doesnt.

    Hanrahan goes to the Mets and fails and you would be one of the first in line bashing Alderson for signing him just like your ilk does with Farnsworth and Velverde.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I am always amazed how people seem to think that a guy who comes back from TJS will instantly be as good as he was before. Many will be disappointed next season is Harvey doesnt come back and post a 2.25 ERA like he did before. Personally, I feel that unrealistic. I was even told the 12 month recovery and the 12 months of strengthening the arm is old and passe. It is quicker now. It seems the new model means that the likelihood of another surgery is increased. Not sure that is an improvement.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    At least Farnsworth and Valverde are healthy and can pitch normally.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I’m already prepared for the “Mets ruined Harvey” comments if he doesn’t post a sub-3.00 ERA.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I am actually prepared for worse. Harvey’s determination can be a problem here unless the Mets and Boras reel him in. I applaud his desire to get back so soon but I think he is prone to rush it further increasing the likelihood of further injury down the road. I hope I am wrong but that is how I read it.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Interesting the Tigers, in need of a SS, havent touched Drew?

    I havent heard about Dombrowski being on a limited budget yet he passes on him. Why?

    Maybe all the Drew lovers out there can help me understand this.

  • Jgreen

    It’s the draft pick I guess, since this year’s pool is known to be great.

  • Tank

    He sucks. I have a friend of mine whos a Sox fan and he told me back in Nov to stay away from him.

  • omar minayass

    maybe as a wilpon apologist, you can help me understand why you back this piece of crap front office up on every single move they don’t make.

  • omar minayass

    you are so right. why would i want a proven closer in balfour when we have daisuke, farnsworth & valverde? not to mention vic black in AAA who couldn’t hit the backside of a bartolo.

  • omar minayass

    LOL FARNSWORTH AND VALVERDE!! why don’t you & task go grab a table at the acela club and proceed to frisk each other in your 2014 mets camouflage jerseys.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I’m sorry, are they not both healthy and capable of pitching on back-to-back days? I love people like you who think a joke is some sort of counter.

  • omar minayass

    they are healthy TODAY. TODAY!!!!!! i mean wake up jesus christ. they will be lucky to have their arms attached to their bodies come all star break

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Same goes for Hanarahan. Haha. I mean, come on. The guy is signed to a deal and goes right on the DL. He might not be able to pitch for another month and when he comes back, like any pitcher coming off surgery, he won’t be pitched normally. That means potentially not back-to-back days. It’s hilarious that you think signing a question mark like Hanrahan somehow counteracts the question marks we already have.

  • omar minayass

    ok, yeah so don’t even attempt to sign hanrahan (for $1 mil + incentives). we’re ok with our bullpen & by your logic, we are healthy for the entire year because two 40 year olds have held up for a month. oh, and that’s right, they can throw on back to back days. such a smart observation.

    you are a clown shoe, nothing more.

  • Buster

    Please, be fair and let’s wait until its official the PTBN is the 18 year old before you start calling this lying organization a bunch of liars.

  • Taskmaster4450

    How do you back every move a FO doesnt make?

    There are thousands of moves the FO could make but doesnt. Hell, how do you go about figuring out all the moves a FO could make let alone know about them all?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Haha. Ok, man. Pleasure as always.

  • Taskmaster4450

    It could be…I dont know.

    But then again on here, many laugh at the notion of not signing Drew because of the draft pick.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Balfour a proven closer?

    He has 78 career saves. You might want to look at Velverde’s record….I think he has a bit more closing experience.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Joe D. is more of a “Sandy Lover” than I thought.

  • Taskmaster4450

    So typical.

    Sign someone anyone as long as they are outside the organization until they fail and then it is attack the FO for signing them.

    You understand the guy is still injured. Funny how the Marcum signing was attacked thoroughly on here for still being injured yet now you want the Mets to repeat that .

  • oleosmirf

    But there are other moves that Sandy has made and moves he could have made, but didn’t have worked out against him.

    Mets fans have every right to complain about the Colon, Granderson and Young signings. As of right now, all 3 look to be regrettable. Obviously, it’s too early to make final judgments, but Sandy’s offseason so far has been pretty bad despite the winning record.

    I’m not one of the idiots who complains about everything Sandy does something just because he’s a SABR guy, but sometimes you have to call a spade, a spade.

    There are valid reasons to complain about the job he’s done.

  • Hotstreak

    SA is Mr. May.CORRECTION: MR. April. April fools;

  • Mets Fan in NC

    No surprise…Mets don’t compete for free agents. They just sign guys nobody wants

  • Captain America

    Probably got banned