MMO Game Thread: Mets vs Rockies, 8:40 PM

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The Mets will get an opportunity to even up the series when they take on the Colorado Rockies at Coors Field tonight at 8:40 PM.

Zack Wheeler (1-2, 3.99 ERA) gets the assignment for the Mets and will oppose left-hander Jorge De La Rosa (2-3, 5.23) for the Rockies.

Wheeler has been hot of late, giving up just six runs with 19 strikeouts over 18.1 innings in his last three starts – all of them Mets victories.

Juan Lagares, who was activated from the disabled list before last night’s game, doubled in his first at-bat to extend his hitting streak to 10 straight games. Lagares would double again and drive in a run in his return to the lineup.

Since July 1, 2013, Lagares is second on the club with 18 doubles, trailing only Daniel Murphy (23) and is hitting .264 (87-330) with five triples, four home runs and 35 RBI over that period.

The Mets have had a starter yield seven or more runs just twice this season. Both times it was righty Bartolo Colon, who gave up nine on April 13 against the Angels and seven Thursday night.

The Mets have a .987 fielding percentage, the second-best in the National League behind Cincinnati (.989) and the fifth-best in the majors.

Scott Rice has retired 12 of the last 13 batters he’s faced and is unscored upon seven straight games (3.1 innings) and in 11 of his 13 outings. In addition, Rice has stranded 13 of 15 inherited runners.

Starting Lineup

  1. Juan Lagares – CF
  2. Daniel Murphy – 2B
  3. David Wright – 3B
  4. Chris Young – LF
  5. Curtis Granderson – RF
  6. Josh Satin – 1B
  7. Travis d’Arnaud – C
  8. Ruben Tejada – SS
  9. Zack Wheeler – RHP

Game Preview

The Mets just didn’t quite have it last night in Colorado, and look to find it in game 2 tonight. Last night Colon had a bad start, ending the Mets streak of starting pitchers going at least 5 innings and the Mets offense wasn’t ready for the starting pitching to have an off night. The Rockies won 7-4, but that easily could have been 7-1 if it wasn’t for d’Arnaud hitting a three run homer in the ninth. Tonight Zack Wheeler looks to get the Mets back on track as they square off with Jorge De La Rosa.

Zack Wheeler is 1-2 on the season with a 3.99 ERA over 5 starts in the first month with 29.1 innings of work and 31 strikeouts. Wheeler is coming off of his best start of the season logging 6 innings with 1 earned run while striking out 10.  Wheeler has not faced the Rockies in his short career and has only faced one batter, Drew Stubbs, who is 1-2.

Jorge De La Rosa is 2-3 over 6 starts in his first month while posting a 5.23 ERA over 31.0 innings while walking 13 and striking out 28. His last two starts have been much better than his first four. In his last two he is a combined 12.0 IP, 2 ER and 8 K. In his career he has pitched 29.2 innings against the Mets with a 4.55 ERA. The Mets have the following numbers against Jorge:

  • C Young 5-26, 2B, 2 HR
  • Wright 3-10, 2 2B, 5 BB
  • Abreu 1-8
  • Granderson 0-3
  • Murphy 0-1

Lets Go Mets!

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  • HarveyKsYou

    Wheeler needs to give us 7 innings for once tonight. And Wright needs to step up and start hitting.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Mets will bounce back tonight!!!!

  • John Ginder

    The worst part about looking to bounce back from a difficult game is having to wait for the late start.

  • Wheeler will go at least 7 and get our first pitcher’s hit tonight. You heard it here first!!

  • donobrien

    Last ABs for Chris and Curtis, hard hit singles. Last AB for Travis, a three run dinger. Continue where you left off, gentlemen.

  • HarveyKsYou

    d’Arnaud looked like Piazza in his last at bat (I only say this because Travis grew up idolizing him.. )Absolutely crushed that ball.

  • amarksupreme

    yeah I think someone else mentioned – it just sounded so sweet off the bat

  • CJM

    Perfect game. 12 Ks.

  • jason bay

    Time for Leroy to start trolling Wheeler as he does every time he makes a start.

    That being said his .325/.404/.525 with 5 doubles and a HR Vs. LHP is alarming.

    CarGo, if he goes, Blackmon, Mourneau and Dickerson are concerns.

    Got to go in tight on ’em and move it around.

  • sarge69

    Amen HarveyKsYou.
    David, my fav on team, has looked either tired or hurting.

  • Macdaddy

    Well the tag line is the kiss of death for Rice. On the road in Colorado that just begs for an ugly box score for any pitcher…let alone saying that Rice has not been scored on in last 7 games.

  • WillisReid

    Coors field, LHP, great time for Wright to get it going.

  • Macdaddy

    It was hit well…but realize this is Coors Field in Colorado.

  • Macdaddy

    CJM…seriously homeslice stop smoking the local Denver Weed…hahaha. Please return the Bong to it’s original upright position and prepare for the munchies.

  • jason bay

    It is amazing to me how a team like the Rockies can develop OFer’s like crazy and find time to get SS’s, 3B men and catchers on top of it.

    They got rid of a few guys in Fowler, Helton and Young Jr. recently too.

    Course they haven’t developed too much in the way of pitching since Ubaldo.

  • jason bay

    LOL

  • T Boogy

    I thought the same thing in philly against Hamels but that didn’t work out. David is struggling. Might need a day off soon.

  • Dcg

    1. Chris young. 2. Murphy. 3. LagAres. 4. Duda. 5 Wright. 6. Grandy. 7 dArnaud 8 Omar q

  • WillisReid

    Davis looks like he’s off the gas. Not that I thought that he was on it in the first place.

  • billpulsipher

    shocked TC hasnt slit his wrists benching EY 2 games in a row….how can he justify benching a .190 hitter

  • CJM

    Tejada’s greatest asset is his ability to hit lefties. Would make absolutely no sense to start Quintanilla over Tejada against a lefty.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Am I the only one who doesnt feel real confident before Wheeler’s starts?

    I realize his numbers are looking pretty good but I just can get past the fact that he lacks the ability to dominate. And pitching in Coors Field is scary enough.

  • AlexHZ

    People are giving the rockies too much credit. They are just hot right now, they will all come back down to earth except probably tulo.

  • CJM

    Tonight’s lineup is Lagares, Murph, Wright, Young, Granderson, Satin, TdA, Tejada, Wheeler.

    Would like to see Satin start to get the wheels turning against lefties. Otherwise they might as well make Duda the full-time first baseman.

  • CJM

    Including Tulo. He’s not gonna finish the season with a 1.200 OPS.

  • CJM

    I get excited for Wheeler’s starts. I keep believing that each start will be the start he puts it all together.

  • Macdaddy

    Pick your drug and then your posion. Hard to groom pitching talent in Rocky Land when, sans humidors (there’s a joke in there but I will have mine that thought for a bit to find it) balls fly around that stadium like ping pong balls on a lottery drawing night.

  • Not4

    Feel like if Satin does not get it going soon, he will be down in AAA and Campbell will be brought up. That is what should happen at least.

  • jason bay

    If that is the lineup Wright is not getting anything to hit.

    Can’t believe Grandy is going to be in there against the LHP and why hit Q against the LHP at all? Tejada has been good against them .438/.500/.500 (18 AB’s) in his career too 418 AB’s (.302/.373/.374)

    RF Young, CF Lagares, 3B Wright, 1B Satin, C TDA, 2B Murphy, LF Young Jr., SS Tejada, P Wheeler is how I would go today.

  • Macdaddy

    Ruben’s greatest asset at this point is his paycheck because at $1.1M for 2014…he’s stealling from the Mets.

  • Waz0787

    Same with you. Giants won multiple WS since we made the playoffs. They knew their stuff. Wheeler is overhyped by mets fan. He is good but not great.

  • CJM

    If he only played against lefties and they had a shortstop who could hit righties (I dk, say Drew), Tejada would be well worth the $1.1 million.

  • Macdaddy

    Ah come on JB…you are using logic…and well LOGIC is not a word found in any Mets Coach, GM or Owners Lexicon.

  • Not4

    Interesting thought. I’d agree with you in part and disagree in part. Think Wheeler still lacks consistency with his his control and maybe his approach – he’s still learning the ropes. So just don’t know what to expect at this point. But he is finding a way to still pitch well and I think this is a process by which hopefully he will continue to evolve throughout the year. I think as the weather heats up, so will he.

  • CJM

    It’s fine if Wheeler ends up being just good. In fact, it’s fine if he ends up being average. The Mets traded a half-season of Beltran for Wheeler. Considering they were contractually not allowed to offer Beltran arbitration, and he was not gonna re-sign with the team, it is impossible for that trade to have been a loss.

  • Macdaddy

    I did the whole thing as a kid, borrowing a bunch a spare parts from my friends to put my bike back together after it go run over by a truck. Yeah I had a bike to ride but it looked like crap and didn’t really ride very well. Thus I am not into the whole spare parts thing.

    Yes I get your point but I am not a fan of Drew, and if the game plan is to not spend and roll the dice with what they have…then TC should be smart enough to work the roster and line up to the advantage of his players. Yet the damn fool can see the obvious…and this is an MLB Manager.

  • Waz0787

    If wheeler is traded for a bat. I wouldn’t complain

  • jason bay

    Developing pitchers in that environment must be tough and I’m not excusing them so much as lauding them for developing hitters plus they have Herrera, Murphy, Parker, Story and Dahl and their farm systems all play at altitude in Tri City WA, Asheville NC, the California and PC Leagues.

  • Macdaddy

    I am sure EY layed the envolope on his desk with those rather interesting nature pictorals of TC frolicking in the hills of the Poconos as a young and experimenting youth…yes good old Mount Airy Lodge. Trust me EY will be back in the lineup tomorrow.

  • MetsfanInParadise
  • Not4

    I’ll start by agreeing with one point – Wheeler is a good pitcher right now, but not great at this point. But the tone of your post makes it seem like you believe he cannot and will not improve, which is just about as asinine as can be – so maybe I am reading into it too much.

    He’s a young pitcher with GREAT stuff. He needs to refine his control and learn how to “pitch” more. But the kids seems to be learning and improving. Harvey’s immediate success should not delude you into thinking that is the normal path for most great pitchers. Just does not happen that way very often. Most often, there is a learning process and it takes a couple of years in the bigs before the improvement turns into domination for most of the greats.

    So relax on this “Wheeler is overrated” crap. He’s a 23 year old (soon to be 24), who has a total of 22 starts in the big leagues. with an 8-7 record and 3.55 ERA. In a couple of years, we’ll find out if he was over-hyped or not. But even if so, his floor seems to be a No. 3 or No. 4 (assuming he never gets consistent control). His ceiling still remains top of the rotation. Hardly something to be so snide about

  • CJM

    Depends which bat. But having Wheeler as a prospect is basically playing with house money.

  • Macdaddy

    It was a good deal for Carlos and the Giants, and also a good deal for the Mets. I think it is way too early to start making judgement calls about Wheeler and his ability or lack there of…the kid is doing fine and with any young pitcher you will have some rough spots. Realize were not talking about Mike Pelfry here.

  • $14435385

    We might have been saying the same thing about Darling if blogs existed 30ish years ago (god,writing that sentence made me feel old)…but he eventually figured it out, and there was no one on that staff I wanted on the mound in a big game more than him, including Gooden. I think Wheeler has some of that bulldog in him – time will tell.

  • Andrew Herbst

    We need Wheeler to build off his last start. Have to give him some run support

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    I been saying wheeler should be headling a package to get a bat, tgats what we need.

  • Macdaddy

    It’s an organization thing, in all fairness. You either have a pitching mentality or you have a hitting mentality…hard to find places where both work together. Also teams are grabing pitchers left and right in the draft and certain teams, like the Rockies make the decision to grab positional talent and then use that talent to trade for MLB ready arms.

  • HarveyKsYou

    The ball was crushed… A home run anywhere.. Don’t think the air affected it that much.

  • Erin_II

    Quit smoking shrooms.

  • WillisReid

    Harvey’s quick success spoiled everyone. We went from thinking it would be Gen K all over again, to disappointed they all aren’t perennial Cy Young candidates.

  • mad met

    How many k’s for curtis the windmill granderson tonight against the lefty gonna say three and a pop up

  • AlexHZ

    Eventually he will have a Larry Walker type season in that stadium.

  • Guest 1

    id wait until harvey comes back and when thor is up before we do anything like that. God forbid harvey isnt the same guy he was and hes never himself again.. or is thor is a bust… it wouldnt be smart to trade him for a bat just yet.

  • Hotstreak

    Grandy is more likely to get a KEY hit than Wright.
    built in excuse for him. What no maden form or support for Wright.
    Both of them are two big busts.

  • oleosmirf

    He lacks the ability to dominate? Seriously?

    How many K did he have last game?

    What’s his K rate this year?

    Which Mets SP has the lowest career ERA?

  • jason bay

    LOL,

    How true, how true.

  • Macdaddy

    Yo Harvey…watz ahhhup. Not disagreeing that it was ripped but there is a mental thing when teams come to Coors. Call it what you want but everyone seems to have a different mental state when they hit at Coors.

  • Hotstreak

    duplicate comment

  • Hotstreak

    You can take it better than anyone.

  • jason bay

    I don’t think that tonight Granderson is more likely to get a key hit than Wright is.

    Granderson has 13 hits all year.

  • $14435385

    Unfortunately, it’s our culture these days…all judgment, no patience. If a guy doesn’t come out of the chute hitting .320 or winning 2/3 of his games, he’s garbage. Hell, even if he does win 2/3 of his games but does it without throwing 97 he’s garbage (see Gee, Dillon – at least to some fans).

  • shouldaswung

    I don’t believe so. Yeah, that guy was serious.

    Pretty sure it was 10.

    I know THIS one…Tom Seaver at 2.57

  • Bartolololol

    At the B-Mets game in Binghamton tonight, looking forward to checking out Tovar and Plawecki, if anyone wants a report just lemme know.

  • I really wish we had signed him.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Have a spiedie for me.

  • metsfan79

    Me too. He’s only 13 years younget then the guy we signed but would have cost 2 million more so tjeres that

  • TPT

    hahahha wow i think some people just write on here only to be noticed because if ever anyone was dominating last game it was Wheeler and thats not to say at Coors he will but that’s a crazy to say unless once again he calls it sarcism lol

  • jason bay

    No way Jeff wants him around after he had him traded by interim GM Jim Duquette after Rick Peterson’s off the cuff remark in some irrational attempt to be named executive of the year or curry favor with the resident long toothed lefties Leiter and Franco.

  • Bartolololol

    Will do of course

  • TPT

    or Bartolo throws a few more gems like last night

  • Wow. Turns out I hate 8:40 starts. Who knew??

  • TPT

    and i guarantee you not one team in the majors would not want him p.s the Giants didnt give him away for free he cost a Beltran

  • Anthony

    I hate playing in that joke of a park.

  • metsfan79

    20Ks tonight!

  • Lutece

    Check Matt Reynolds if you can too

  • BronxMets

    how are you watching them you there?

  • TPT

    so JB with CY batting behind Wright you say he wont get anything to hit but with the 158 batting avg Satin hitting behind him he will?? haha wow I dont see much improvement in fact CY still more a threat to pitchers than Satin

  • Bartolololol

    Yes smart phone

  • BarnRat

    It occurs to me that the Rockies really should be the ones using Las Vegas for their AAA team. Not only fairly close, but must replicate the Coors pitching/hitting conditions pretty well.

    Maybe they’d throw in Tulo if we traded affiliates

  • Bartolololol

    Plawecki just ripped a comebacker for a single which drilled Portland’s pitcher who happens to be a Binghamton University grad

  • HarveyKsYou

    448 feet… That’s a BOMB.

  • muskytoes

    The Rockies AAA team is located about 70 miles away from Coors Field. Maybe they’ll trade with us if we throw in the entire 51s roster and Nimmo.

  • NYM86

    http://exposnation.com/en/expos-day-2014/

    Apparently Expos fans are planning on gathering at a Mets game @ Citi in July.

  • LIMetfan22

    Why? Lol

  • muskytoes

    Must be Huey Lewis fans.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    THANK GOD you said it, because when I say it Im seen as a Wheeler hater.

    Dont get me wrong he has had some solid outings this year but he gets in too many jams and wont be able to get out of them like he has managed thus far

  • BarnRat

    We could also give them slot machine coins — oh, wait, that’s like money. Never mind.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Maybe the Wilpons are moving the franchise to Montreal.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Yea lets try to get 2 and get out of there it’s not real baseball

  • SchadenfreudianSlip

    TDA is going to put up nice numbers. He looks good in the box. Not a worry at all.

    Granderson on the other hand? I do think he’ll come around but based totally on history and not his recent at bats. He doesn’t look great up there. Some terrible swings.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Yeah, but Better than those 10:20pm starts when we played in LA

  • BarnRat

    Fleeing the IRS?

  • Destry

    Wheeler has got to find a way to get lefties out consistently with Morneau, Cargo, Blackmon & Dickerson in the Col lineup

  • Manager of The Year

    I like the lineup however i would prefer to switch TDA and Satin in the lineup

  • muskytoes

    My new favorite player on the Portland Sea Dogs is Mookie Betts. Mookie. Betts. Mets. Sandy has to get this kid.

  • AlexHZ

    Needs to pound fastballs inside and up and in, mix in a curve in the dirt. Just gotta pitch smart, his stuff will take care of the rest. He could be dominant, his FB leaves his hand looking like hes about to throw some BP(at least on tv) and it hits the glove at 95-98.

  • BronxMets

    does anyone read anymore………..

  • So I see you are quite familiar with that delectable treat and my favorite of all ballpark foods.

  • Bartolololol

    He’s playing for them tonight, i thought the same thing when I heard his name announced

  • NewYorkMammoths

    You’re just asking for an American Psycho quotefest.

  • MyasDaddy

    OT: Anyone got any tips for the Derby tomorrow?

  • Bartolololol

    You said how are you watching them you there…..I said I was at the game in my first post….

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    I wonder if he was named after Mookie Wilson.

  • Waz0787

    I agree. We have surplus of pitchers and if right deal come along mets should trade him.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    I grew up in the area. I go back 1-2 times a year–always fun to visit the old landmarks.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Starting Lineup(should be)

    1. Juan Lagares – CF
    2. Daniel Murphy – 2B
    3. Chris Young – LF
    4. Travis d’Arnaud – C
    5. Curtis Granderson – RF
    6. David Wright – 3B
    7. Josh Satin – 1B
    8. Ruben Tejada – SS
    9.Zack Wheeler – RHP

    You want your 3 best hitters(Lagares,Murphy & C.Young) to get the most at bats. And Mike Piazza batting cleanup is an added bonus.

    Grandy and Wright stretch the batting order, not to mention you set a precedent letting everyone on the team know its all about PRODUCTION and not what you did in the past or how many zeros your contract has 😉

    If youre struggling figure your sh*t out at the back of the order. Dont screw things up for the whole team by being an unproductive out in key hitting spots in the order

  • Selltheteam06

    You do not seriously think that Chris Young is a better hitter than David Wright. Stop.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    You should read carefully.

    P.S. He looks a hell of a lot better than him at the moment.

  • Run Support Group

    Leroy was calling for David to he traded a few days ago because he’s done apparently

  • Edward

    Wow! That’s a far cry from where you were a little over a week ago on Darnaud. You’re like a fish out of water man.

  • Phoenix Met

    “Grandy and Wright stretch the batting order” = CY is a better hitter? Sheesh. Do you guys just see Leroy post something, and automatically start typing a rebuttal before you read?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    CORRECTION: BBLB was calling for him to be traded in 2011 because he knew Wright was done and regressing.

  • MikeBedlam

    Counterpoint: I would actually bat Tejada at leadoff against lefties.
    /puts on flame suit

    1-Tejada
    2-Murph
    3-CY Danger
    4-Lagares
    5-Wright
    6-TdA
    7-Grandy
    8-Satin
    9-Wheeler

    Wright gets some protection, and so does Grandy.

  • Run Support Group

    David’s shown no signs of regression the past 2 years. He’s put up 12 WAR. If that’s regressing, then almost all players have regressed

  • 2rings

    need a big bounce back game tonight. Need some early runs

  • Run Support Group

    Not bad, Tejada hits lefties well. I’d switch JLAG and CY thougj

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Thats exactly what they do

    1.Leroy posted
    2.Skim through
    3.Look for anything to argue about
    4. He said Wrights name o_o
    5. I hate you Leroy

  • Super T

    Maybe the Mets marketing dept included them with their letter to the fans.

  • Edward

    Not me, I was ragging on you for flip flopping. Last week darnaud was josh thole, this week he is the second coming of mike piazza. lol

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    If youre going to argue your point with a terrible and SUPER FLAWED SABR stat like WAR then our conversation is done.

    FYI WAR said that JOSH DONALDSON was a BETTER PLAYER than MIGUEL CABRERA(THE MVP) & CHRIS DAVIS Last year

  • IndianaMet

    Try getting a reservation at Dorsia now you fu@$ing bast@?&!

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Lol…Thats a lie I Never said he was as good as Thole

  • IndianaMet

    Always bet on black!!!!

  • Edward

    lol, yeah if memory serves, you did say Thole was better.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    If you call Satin and Wheeler protection I would love to know where your home is located your safe must be in between your matress 😉

    And Tejada is fine where he is as far back in the lineup as possible.

  • Edward

    Let’s go Let’s go Let’s go!!! Big bats out of the gate please!

  • Hotstreak

    Pitch Count is his problem leaving it to BP. BP stands for batting practice of opposition. Who is our closer anyway? I know its not BP or Bobby Parnell. Yes I should not quit my daytime job but we will see Hawkins tonight. Leroy or Latroy whatever.

  • Anthony

    Let’s hammer this bum de la rosa.

  • Anthony

    Yeah dog

  • Andrew Herbst

    Lagares keeps on hitting.

  • 2rings

    JL raking

  • knicksjp07

    lagares with the leadoff double!!!

  • MyasDaddy

    Juan- You are my sunshine, my only sunshine. You make me happy, when skies are grey.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    He’s just a “doub” machine

  • sperry

    I was as doubtful as anyone about Lagares being able to develop into a major league hitter this offseason

    I’ve never been happier to be wrong

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Lol i have never seen that swing

  • MikeBedlam

    Good hitting.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Odd swing from Murph. But we’ll take it.

  • 2rings

    nice

  • MikeBedlam

    Satin versus a lefty does offer protection.

    Tejada is a career .302 hitter versus lefties. I’m not a Tejada fan, but you can’t ignore that.

  • LIMetfan22

    Good start to the game lol

  • MetsfanInParadise

    OK, the stars are aligned for the captain. A lefty, this field, time to bust out

  • Metsaholic

    WILD!!!!

  • Andrew Herbst

    Good start.

  • sperry

    Simmer down keith that was a friggin fastball straight to the dirt

  • MyasDaddy

    WTF was that!

  • MikeBedlam

    At least we don’t have to hear about the damn streak anymore.

  • LIMetfan22

    Capt’n killing lefties this year. Just not hitting for much power yet. That should change tonight.

  • Metsaholic

    TC IS PISSED!!!

  • Andrew Herbst

    What was Murph thinking?

  • 2rings

    bone head

  • knicksjp07

    why was he going with no outs?

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    I like that Murph is aggresive but that was a bad time to do it

  • BronxMets

    Lagares is not a leadoff hitter. I mean did you see the way he hit a double instead of taking pitches? He should have attempted a walk so he could be on first and make the guy up second have to take pitches so he could maybe steal. Just awful.

  • sperry

    Did de la Rosa ever even move? Jesus

  • 2rings

    cost us a run with his brain lock

  • George_Theodore

    low baseball IQ

  • LIMetfan22

    STUPID decision. He’s in the doghouse after that.

  • MikeBedlam

    DFA!!!!!!!!

  • Anthony

    C’mon murph

  • CJM

    Murph’s a bonehead.

  • Andrew Herbst

    No he wasn’t even looking at 2nd.

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Murphy is acutally a very smart hitter

  • Super T

    LOL, wow DW with a base hit after murph out….who’d thunk?

  • $14435385

    Somebody’s got to nail Murphy’s feet to the bag when he’s on 2nd with less than 2 out.

  • Manuel1991

    Really murph

  • LIMetfan22

    Please be satire. Please?

  • BronxMets

    Murphy is actually one of the dumbest players I have ever seen.

  • George_Theodore

    yes.. not so much on the bases 🙂

  • $14435385

    He should be.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Don’t forget, he had a .281 OBP last season. He can’t get any better than that.

  • Anthony

    Let this bum off the hook

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Roger Ramjet

  • Edward

    No worries Murph, we gonna be all over the scoreboard today

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    What did he do? i just tuned in.

  • Super T

    Thus the “LOL”.

  • igotyourbackman

    Pick up your teammates, let’s go!

  • MetsfanInParadise

    He made a bonehead play but 28 straight steals gives him a little cred

  • Metsaholic

    Of course. I am.

  • George_Theodore

    caught stealing 3rd with no outs

  • 2rings

    somehow Gary???? really

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Don’t care if thats a out that was a nice swing and good contact

  • BronxMets

    Destry where you at?????????? You want to explain Murphy making one of the dumbest moves this year?

  • LIMetfan22

    Meh LOL is usual #CORE talk. Never know these days

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Woulda, coulda, shoulda

  • Waz0787

    It should be 2-0 mets but murphy thought he was ricky trying to steal 3rd with no outs smh

  • MyasDaddy

    A chance for a crooked number, turns into one lonely run!

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    WTF?!?! Why?

  • MetsfanInParadise

    We hit rockets early last night too, look where it got us

  • George_Theodore

    you’ll have to ask him

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    You wanna bet that I can and will ignore it??? Lol

    I stand by my initial comment Tejada plays best when he is towards the back of the order and doesnt have that added pressure to produce towards the top of the order.

    And he runs the bases like Duda

  • BarnRat

    We’ll get back a gift from the Rockies somewhere along the way and balance will be restored to the universe

  • MetsfanInParadise

    And I don’t even get to see the postgame show. MLB doesn’t carry it online

  • $14435385

    Murphy reminds me of the Tommy Boy line – “When I get all excited, I’m like JoJo, the Indian circus boy with a pretty new pet.”

  • Waz0787

    Nice beard blackmon

  • MyasDaddy

    Blue has a low strike zone tonight.

  • George_Theodore

    EYJ will start at 2nd tomorrow

  • goorru

    Everyone be careful what you say Jessup Wilpon is watching.

  • igotyourbackman

    There goes the no hitter

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Morneau hitting .340. Talk about a renaissance of your career thus far. They couldn’t take a flyer on him?

  • Waz0787

    So it begins. Have a feeling it’s going to a high scoring game

  • Fair enough.

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    But… It was going so well

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    And Wheeler in a nutshell he’ll get 2strikes on a hitter but CANT put them away….

    VERY PELFREY-ESQUE

  • Waz0787

    He doesn’t do ped

  • 2rings

    if the Mets took him, he would be hitting .052

  • Only been there twice, but I love the town, the park, the whole atmosphere. There’s a lot of that Norman Rockwell type charm to Binghamton and it’s such a perfect minor league setting. Our former B-Mets beat writer, Tim, was a fireman there and also helped build NYSEG Stadium. And our current one John runs a local sports radio show there and is very involved in the community.

    I hope the Wilpons don’t do anything to botch our relationship with them.

  • igotyourbackman

    Come on! These guys are wearing purple! Let’s go!

  • Waz0787

    Lol. If I see his posts its a wrap. I will show him the meaning of troll.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Who knows? You could say the same thing about Jose Abreu, but thats not the case.

  • goorru

    Yeah because having average speed and stealing 28 straight stolen bases takes a low baseball IQ. He made a mistake, it happens.

  • igotyourbackman

    It’s the poor man’s pink, for god’s sake!

  • Edward

    Wheeler will strike out the side now, watch.

  • bspo1

    not a good time for Mets pitching to fall apart.

  • Anthony

    Barney is their mascot

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I wouldnt touch Morneau

    1. He is Canadian like Jason Bay
    2. He had a concusion and was never the same like Jason Bay

    1 Too many similarities to Jason Bay

    and lets be real he wasnt hitting til he got to Colorado hitter heaven.

  • igotyourbackman

    No

  • MyasDaddy

    Still cant wrap my head around that post. I wanted to throw my phone out.

  • We always get some cool references on these threads, but that might be the first Tommy Boy one. 🙂

  • MikeBedlam

    I stand by my initial comment as well.

    And yes, He does run the bases like Duda.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    2 strikes on tulo watch him give up a hit

  • igotyourbackman

    Wild today

  • MetsfanInParadise
  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    WILD EVERYDAY!!!!

  • 2rings

    I was being facetious, but this park , hitting in this lineup, tends to not make the stats transferable to another team and another stadium

  • Anthony

    Hey sack a word of advice keep the ball down

  • Man I wish Tulo was ours.

  • igotyourbackman

    Where was the defense?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I TOLD YOU HE SUCKS BALLZ

  • Waz0787

    If wilpons weren’t broke we could have traded for tulo. Sigh

  • bspo1

    this is going to be a long road trip

  • 2rings

    bad defensive positioning

  • igotyourbackman

    Crap, holding runner

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I TOLD YOU WHEELER SUCKS …..2STRIKES HE’LL GIVE UP A BASE HIT

  • Bunch of f’kn idiots.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    So do 28 other teams

  • goorru

    I thought I went to Messblog for a minute.

  • igotyourbackman

    Settle down Wheels. LGM!

  • Anthony

    There goes the shut out

  • HarveyKsYou

    Wheeler suxks

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    “1. He is Canadian like Jason Bay”

    So is Joey Votto, and I’m sure many would love to have them on their team.

  • 2rings

    oh man…we are going to get swept

  • HarveyKsYou

    Guy gives up nothing but rockets, has zero control..

  • knicksjp07

    seems like this might be another long game SMH

  • Taskmaster4450

    Why did Tulo get traded?

    I thought the Rockies GM said he wasnt trading Tulo or Cargo.

    Oh wait, they are still in Colorado.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Damn Wheeler is TOAST!!!!

  • MikePiazza3186

    Wheeler=lickety split

  • Waz0787

    Wheeler pitching like an ace. Colon must have giving him advice.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    WELP, Morneau doing what Morneau does best: going the other way.

  • Whatever you think of him, he’s ours so root him on!

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Wouldn’t it be nice if THEIR #28 tried to steal 3rd too? Never mind

  • MikeBedlam

    Screw the players, can we trade for Colorado’s hitting coach?

  • bspo1

    yup!

  • HarveyKsYou

    All this shows us is that our rotation is just average.

  • Not sure he sucks but I do remember that in Little League, we were thought to throw it in the dirt or outside the strike zone with two strikes.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I said it from the beginning we shouldve traded this kid for Justin Upton when we had the chance

  • AlexHZ

    mothafucker refuses to pitch inside

  • George_Theodore

    snake bit!

  • Ted Danson

    LOL oh man

  • 2rings

    wow…game over

  • knicksjp07

    of course!!! lol only the mets

  • igotyourbackman

    Jesus. We need you. Now.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Another blowout coming.

  • Andrew Herbst

    We are snakebitten.

  • Selltheteam06

    Yep not our night

  • MikeBedlam

    METS LUCK STRIKES AGAIN!!!

  • Now that’s what I call a turn for the worse…

  • Tom

    “Proof the world is not flat” Man I love Keith.

  • $14435385

    Thanks Joe – there are some classics in that movie…

  • May sucks. Give me back April.

  • Taskmaster4450

    A lefty going to LF…imagine that…that is beyond the Mets understanding.

  • CJM

    Already wondering what could’ve been in this game had Murphy not made that dumb mistake in the top of the first. Feels like it changed the entire complexion of the game.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Im not a Cardinals fan Joe.

    If one of my players is sucking im going to say it.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Yea he looks bad so far

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Snakebit

  • Fast Eddie

    You gotta be kidding Me with that ball curving like that! Wheelers got to buckle down or he could let this get away from him…

  • It had nothing to do with Wheeler not putting guys away, but getting that OUT was not smart.

  • sperry

    Ehhhhh Murphy’s mistake has nothing to do with Wheeler getting torched

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    True, but with the Mets budget and the way they like taking flyers at guys in which they try to get one last squeeze of something out of them (Byrd/Hairston), Morneau would’ve made sense to them.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Wheeler another overrated pitcher.. Pelfrey, Humber, Wheeler.. All were suppose to be top rotation pitchers and all give/gave up bullets and just weren’t tough enough on the mound.

  • AlexHZ

    FINALLY!

  • MetsfanInParadise

    makes Murph’s blunder really stand out

  • bspo1

    Wheeler just walk the entire team please.

  • Go ahead and say it then, but do you have to be so damn loud? LOL

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Wonder if he can get 1 out???

  • CJM

    Yeah of course his play had nothing to do with Wheeler on the mound. But his play does have something to do with the Mets not having 2 or more runs, potentially. As in, the complexion of the game would be different.

  • $14435385

    I hate road trips to Coors Field.

  • bspo1

    good thing the Mets put up a fight for 1 inning!

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Alright guys he will settle down now and go 6

  • igotyourbackman

    Wheeler seems all over the place, no?

  • CJM

    But it does have something to do with the Mets not having two or possibly more runs. And the complexion of the game would be different if that were the case, which is my point.

  • HarveyKsYou

    You’ll never see a guy who throws this hard who gives up nothing but bullets.. Wheelers fastball might be fast, but it’s very hittable.

  • igotyourbackman

    21 pitches 1st inning … And counting

  • Taskmaster4450

    Where are the people who attacked me earlier for not feeling confident with Wheeler going and that he isnt a dominant pitcher.

    How is that looking now? Because Wheeler had a good game his last start means he is dominant? How is that? The guy lacks a put them away pitch.

  • MikeBedlam

    Have we ever seen Wheels pitch angry?

  • Love Lagares!!!!

  • AlexHZ

    Thats because they are sitting on it. Its pretty obvious. Tulo was like half a foot from the plate.

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Thats ALL there getting guys!

  • bspo1

    yeah, run saver for sure!

  • BadBadLeroyBrown
  • Either Young would have never caught that cause they play deep.

  • That kid is a stud. He’s no where near Carlos Gomez (finished product). But….he might be closest thing to Gomez by the end of the year. Yup. I’m dreaming.

  • igotyourbackman

    No one cares

  • 2rings

    maybe not, but I will tell you what, he is the ONLY MET pitcher this year who has thrown inside.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Average rotation.. Terrible lineup and bad bullpen= 79 wins at most.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Very atypical of Wheeler.

  • MikeBedlam

    I’m looking at him totally different right now.

  • Waz0787

    Jessep must have jinxed the mets. After we had a winning record in April our little friend had a parade on his hallway. Mets decided not show up again.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    YES…lol

    Thats me in game screaming at the tv
    😉

  • igotyourbackman

    The 2nd inning might be a good time
    To start.

  • Metsaholic

    I thought that was dropping in front of CY. I forgot Lagares was out there. No worries.

  • mr mojo risin

    meh, that was BS … let’s get some runsss

  • MikeBedlam

    Reminds me of…*gulp*…Bobby Parnell. The version that was a “thrower”, not the pitcher we saw the last 2 years.

  • MikeyT

    Was there a single hard hit ball that inning? Rockies just have every weak ground ball find a hole the last 2 nights

  • Taskmaster4450

    The only Met pitcher in a decade or more to throw inside.

    Pedro might have been the last.

  • 2rings

    and who the heck is Barnes to be glaring back..Zack should have stuck the next pitch in his ribs

  • BarnRat

    1st inning leads are for wimps

  • HarveyKsYou

    Now if we even had an average offense this game would not be close to over. But we know the deal.

  • MikeBedlam

    Agreed.

  • Edward

    I think they were attacking you because of Wheeler’s 20 something professional starts. You don’t get credit for calling a fresh faced kid a bust, because most are.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Wheeler=stiff

  • Taskmaster4450

    11 runs in 10 innings and you are calling the Rockies basically lucky?

  • goorru

    He couldn’t be here tonight he’s mowing lawns to pay for his playoff tickets.

  • Waz0787

    I wish he played for the mets.

  • Wheeler is fulfilling his role of making it look as if Colon’s start wasn’t that bad yesterday. He’s just picking up the vet.

  • bspo1

    here comes the Ace pitching for the Rockies.

  • jason bay

    In the above example it was Grandy batting after Wright with a LHP on the mound.

    Who would you pitch to or around TPT?

  • HarveyKsYou

    Wheeler= John Maine.. Light. Maine was way more dominant.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    TDA with warning track power in Colorado….not good bro

  • MikeyT

    They have had a lot of really good luck. They have about 6-7 seeing eye hits in 10 innings

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yes I am not calling him a bust and do believe he can develop into a top of the rotation pitcher.

    But at this time, after 20 something starts, he is still raw and wild.

  • BCleveland3381

    Awesome, we get down 4-1 and all our hitters think they’re babe ruth and try hit it into the next county.

  • 2rings

    going into the series we all knew that in this ball park , and this line-up, we were not winning any 3-2 games
    so it is on the offense to wake up

  • Anthony

    Love the bats here

  • Super T

    All this shows us is that our rotation needs an offense to support them when they don’t throw dominant stuff.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Its colorado those warning track flys are actually infield pop ups in any other stadium

  • Taskmaster4450

    Keith would agree with you.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Cmon, Rube, clear the pitcher

  • HarveyKsYou

    Anemic offense.

  • Waz0787

    Since alderson took over. Our draft has improved one spot every year. I am saying this we will finish with the 9th worst record this year.

  • MikeBedlam

    If the Mets rotation had 7.9 runs to work with, we’d win 120 games.

  • BronxMets

    Tejada doing what he does

  • Taskmaster4450

    He is advancing at a much faster pace than Gomez. I would say they will be close except for the power. Gomez has more pop but that is all.

    Believe it or not, defensively Lagares is ahead of Gomez. Gomez doesnt have the arm of Lagares nor charge the ball like Juan does.

  • MikeBedlam

    He hasn’t struck out yet.

  • igotyourbackman

    At least he’s working this pitcher

  • Taskmaster4450

    Steve Trachsel won 15 games for the Mets because they scored like 6 runs a game for him.

  • Super T

    Read his article at work earlier (can only read can’t respond) and it was killing me not being able to respond to it, that article was wrong in sooo many ways I could have wrote a book.

  • You know I’m old when my first thought when I read this was that you were somehow talking about former pitching coach, Rube Walker.

  • Andrew Herbst

    At least we cleared the pitchers spot.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Good ab

  • $14435385

    Nice AB by Tejada.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Wheeler hr here

  • HarveyKsYou

    All he does is draw an occasional walk, otherwise he’s useless.

  • igotyourbackman

    Time for the 9spot HR

  • Have our pitchers gotten a hit yet?

  • Taskmaster4450

    Here goes Cohen with the Met pitchers 0 for crap.

    Why doesnt he just shut up.

  • Anthony

    Nicasio an de la rosa a couple of cy young winners

  • 2rings

    no

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Joe Pignatano, Eddie Yost. Roy McMillan. Almost forgot him

  • MikePiazza3186

    This is true

  • igotyourbackman

    Low “strike” there

  • MikePiazza3186

    By the way go penguins!!!

  • Andrew Herbst

    How long will Cohen mention that our pitchers haven’t gotten a hit?

  • BronxMets

    He is the most negative

  • HarveyKsYou

    If we had some power it wouldn’t be impossible for us to come back.. But we have no power, not even XBH power.

  • igotyourbackman

    That didn’t work

  • MikePiazza3186

    Until they do

  • Taskmaster4450

    Until the Met pitchers get a hit.

  • Yup! Those were our guys for many of my early years of fandom. Simpler times. And $7 box seats or probably less at that point.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Keith’s giving us an edjumication

  • Peter S

    Until they get one?

  • MetsfanInParadise

    too obvious

  • Andrew Herbst

    It’s annoying after a while.

  • igotyourbackman

    What are you watching “Happy Feet?”

  • Peter S

    Boooooo

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Mike Pelfrey > Zack Wheeler

    John Maine > Zack Wheeler

  • MikePiazza3186

    Lol no nhl playoffs

  • Andrew Herbst

    Hopefully it’s sooner rather than later.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I’ve been meaning to post that.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown>Old King Kong

  • Waz0787

    He has a era over 5. After the game it will under 4. We make every pitcher look like a cy young candidate

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I recall $5.50. I saw Woody Fryman pitch a one-hitter against them in ’75. John Stearns got the only hit, a double Front row seats

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Tracy McGrady > Zack Wheeler

  • Peter S

    I just flip the channel when he gets up. I just ignore the fact that he is on the team.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Maine was better: less hits, more Ks.

  • Taskmaster4450

    It was like the no hitter streak that he would say each time the other team got the first hit of the game.

    I cant believe people actually like Cohen.

  • More lies though.

  • Peter S

    Might’ve needed to double switch.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Go look at 2007.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Yep. Exactly. He would always comment on the no hitter streak.

  • Peter S

    Except for when AJ Burnett, I mean wheeler, is on the mound.

  • Peter S

    lol you know they say that it comes in waves.

  • jason bay

    People remember Carlos Gomez when he was brought up here at 21 before he was close to ready. Lagares came up at 24. That is a big difference.

    If we had an in house book mark CG could have developed for us and been more than just a throwin.

    He went from the Sally League to AA, played 36 games in AAA and got the call at 21.

    Ridiculous.

  • MikeBedlam

    Better than throwing it away into the dugout. I’ll take it.

  • Waz0787

    Boo rangers are my hope. Islanders fan needs to keep their mouth quiet

  • HarveyKsYou

    Here comes a triple.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    smgdh….This kid Wheeler is a mess…crash dummy

  • MyasDaddy

    He has to make that play! Come on!

  • “John’s a habitual liar in a lot of ways as far as his own health.” – Dan “The Man” Warthen – 2010

  • Peter S

    David Wright has…oh never mind.

  • CJM

    It’s his job.

  • MikeBedlam

    Of course he does. But, have you watched our pitchers attempt fielding and throwing this year? Their batting stats are more impressive.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Colon would have thrown it into the OF. At least Wheeler held it

  • HarveyKsYou

    Maines injuries kept him
    From being a top flight number 3 it a 2..

  • Peter S

    I still don’t understand how Maine got outs.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Yeah. I just don’t like to be reminded of it.

  • Waz0787

    Degroom is ready bring him up. Wheeler needs to work on his control in double A.

  • Peter S

    Let’s not over do it there.

  • Maybe we can get a Wilpon on tape saying something like “Damn that Blackmon.” It may be enough out of context.

  • igotyourbackman

    Ah Murph. Deke

  • HarveyKsYou

    More bullets. His stuff is very overrated.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Does Wheeler remember he has a breaking ball?

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Always entertaining. Even when he was thrown out

  • CJM

    His stuff is good. He has no idea how to hone it.

  • 2rings

    nice d but I know many on the board will still have an issue

  • I think we’re having two different conversations. I’m out.

  • Edward

    Is it impacted by that altitude?

  • George_Theodore

    couldn’t wright get the force at 3rd on that?

  • 2rings

    or TdA , or whoever is calling the game?

  • CJM

    He could’ve gotten the lead runner.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Every hit is hit HARD!!!!

    Pitchers with nasty stuff dont get hit this hard consistently.

  • Peter S

    Assuming Wheeler some how completes 6 innings, please don’t tell me this was a quality start because he went 6 innings.

  • HarveyKsYou

    I agree.

  • MikeBedlam

    Yeah. And he should’ve.

  • Peter S

    AJ Burnett

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I thought so too

  • MikeBedlam

    That’s not the only requirement for a quality start.

  • Taskmaster4450

    A QS is 3 ER or less in 6 innings…he already gave up 4.

  • CJM

    Apparently a lot of pitchers have trouble throwing their breaking balls in Colorado.

  • igotyourbackman

    So don’t watch. Thanks for coming. Bye bye.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    That’s the definition-at least 6 innings, 3 ER or less

  • Waz0787

    Dude he wears a met uniform. Common little easy. We get it he is not ace.

  • HarveyKsYou

    I guarantee you I watch more games than you. You’re not the perfect fan. Bye bye

  • Peter S

    I would take Trachsel in a minute as long as I am not at the game while he pitches.

  • Ted Danson

    I cant wait till we leave Colorado.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Get this bum out of here

  • 2rings

    we have no infield range at all

  • CJM

    This sucks.

  • MikeBedlam

    Really? 6IP qualifies as a quality start? That’s it?

    You EXACTLY sure about that?

  • Totally.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I can’t wait until this series is over.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    What a surprise

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    We couldve had Justin Upton for Zack WheelsOff

  • HarveyKsYou

    I say we loose this one 13-3

  • Selltheteam06

    A quality start is a statistic 6IP or more allowing 3R or less

  • This is why defense and pitching alone don’t carry a team to the post-season. You can’t expect to get both every night and need to have a strong offense for nights like this.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    You could look it up

  • MikePiazza3186

    I’m dropping wheeler on my fantasy team he stinks

  • igotyourbackman

    I guarantee you I don’t care. You my friend are a blow hard. Go blow elsewhere.

  • Taskmaster4450

    TdA sets up outside and he throws it inside.

    That is what is meant by wild. It isnt always about base on balls.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    Geez, bro, give it a rest. I’m here trying to enjoy the game and you’re in my ear like a mosquito.

  • goorru

    Tejada is awful, his defense doesn’t make up for his lack of offense.

  • MikeBedlam

    Or you could learn to not only read, but to see who I replied to.

  • MikeBedlam

    I know.

  • Peter S

    Guys I was being sarcastic

  • Taskmaster4450

    So you take a rumor and just keep posting it like it is fact.

    Show where that trade was on the table.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    You and Waz should get a motel room

  • HarveyKsYou

    You’re not suppose to talk back to adults.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    So 1 WHOLE HOUR PAST and we’re just getting out of the 2nd inning thanks to Zack WheelzOff.

    Imagine how the defense feels playing behind this kid. You have to get your defense OFF of the field

  • So, what was Tulo doing?

  • Edward

    People are pissed because their beloved Mets are getting kicked around. You need to give it a rest dude. Do you even care about the game itself?

  • Joanie Yan

    There comes a point when a pitcher just doesn’t have it and you just have to take him out of the game before it gets out of hand. Girardi does it all the time – Collins never does it.

  • 2rings

    adjusting his cup

  • igotyourbackman

    Justin Upton molests Collies.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    A big early deficit ruins my entire evening. Especially since my cable is out (and it was just connected 2 days ago)

  • Waz0787

    I am calling out Joe. I want a poll are the mets heading towards t direction or wrong direction

  • yeah, noticed that…maybe adjusting the cup and running is like walking and chewing gum for him.

  • 2rings

    agree, but they were in the Pen early last night too

  • hmm, odd play by Tulo there. If a Met did that you could count on 100 articles killing the player by morning.

  • Super T

    What he said.

  • Bail4Nails

    “Good pitching wins games.” — Yeah, but when your Pitcher’s not doing well, you kinda need to score some Runs. Sandy, get some Offense! Dykstra, Campbell, ANY OTHER SHORTSTOP!

  • Only a rumor.

  • goorru

    Tulo is too good and too fragile to risk any injury on a rundown

  • CJM

    Not if that Met had a 1.200 OPS.

  • Agree, I recall plenty of times when pitchers were pulled after 1-2 innings and returned 2-3 days later with a great start.

  • HarveyKsYou

    More weak contact! Yet we give up rocket after rocket.

  • 2rings

    lol thanks Schneck..needed the laugh

  • igotyourbackman

    So you’re saying you’re an old fart?

  • Super T

    Some in here would still be ripping him.

  • Metjorge

    Well…should I DVR the rest of this sh$&? I can’t remember the last time we came back from a 5 run deficit.

  • Umm why am I the one getting called out, pray tell?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Jose Abreu hit another Homerun today

    11HRs—33RBIs

    THANKS SANDY

  • Phoenix Met

    Damn Leroy, your getting as big a fan club as Alex68! Gotta love how people tell you what kind of fan you are when your opinion differs from theirs. Stay strong man.

  • 2rings

    before DVR’s were invented maybe

  • HarveyKsYou

    You can take three players from our lineup and add their OPS together and it still wouldn’t catch up to Tulos.

  • You wanna bet? 🙂

  • BarnRat

    Dice-K is starting the 2nd hour of his warm-up and is nearly ready

  • MetsfanInParadise

    They cued up the music!

  • HarveyKsYou

    2006.

  • Maybe this is the beginning of something for Wright. Here’s hoping. Any signs of offensive life are welcome and might bode well for future weeks.

  • George_Theodore

    just go bang your head into a wall somewhere, it would have the same effect..

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Saw a stat on that recently-they haven’t given up 5 runs and won in something like 2 years

  • Phoenix Met

    Use your magic and get us a player with a 1.200 OPS and let’s find out! =D

  • Waz0787

    Hey. I didn’t do anything today.

  • 2rings

    2 lucky hits,,,now Grandy can come through and get his season started in the right direction

    or not

  • HarveyKsYou

    Hit a HR and I’ll believe we can come back.. But as we know this team has zero power.

  • MikeBedlam

    lol

  • Joey D.

    Hey Guys,

    Turned on the game a few minutes ago to see the rockies score some runs in the second. Accepted that, but what was this – Lagares leads off game with double, Mets get three hits and score only one run?

  • fedupfan13

    I remember that too, not 100% though. I think will Myers for wheeler was definitely brought up by Kc

  • CJM

    Tonight’s lineup? Nope.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    hahahahahahahahaha

  • Super T

    LOL, no those only go up on certain sites after a Mets win.

  • This would be a great time for him to do something.

  • HarveyKsYou

    He just hits singles.. Useless to be honest.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Paradise,

    Guess that’s all I need to know LOL

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LOL…Ive always had a vicious fanbase here but not on the level of Alex lol

  • Ilgranformaggio

    Please make it 6-4. What am I supposed to do with the rest of my night? Thank goodness there’s still 24 minutes of happy hour left.

  • Edward

    Just get on base Grandy, please!

  • Ugly. Really ugly.

  • Oh I believe it. I’m all aboard the Lagares train. IF…he plays all year, he could easily be a 4-5 WAR player.

  • Metjorge

    Grandy being Grandy

  • HarveyKsYou

    Much worse than Bay. Bay hit occasional home runs.. Not Grandy.

  • goorru

    Granderson at this point should be platooning and i’m being kind about that.

  • George_Theodore

    Murph got thrown out trying to steal 3rd with no outs & Wright up..

  • Waz0787

    Since you did the interview with the other site. Mets forgot how to play baseball

  • OK, I’m for resting Grandy tomorrow.

  • Edward

    This is going to have to be addressed. No GM worth his suit will allow this to continue, I don’t care how much Grandy is getting paid.

  • MikeBedlam

    This game recap was posted too early.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I need better weed to deal with this

  • Ted Danson

    How long did the Bay fiasco go on for?

  • Ilgranformaggio

    I’ve seen more prodigious swings and misses by 5 year-old kids in tee ball. He is bad.

  • 2rings

    then you don’t know this ownership/front office very well

  • HarveyKsYou

    If this continues all year he has to be released. He will get 10x the treatment Bay got solely because he was a Yankee who came over to the lousy mets and became lousy.

  • I wish to the dear Lord we had packaged Murphy and some pitching for Joc Pederson. Granderson is already looking like a terrible contract. This is what I expected for the second half of that deal. I know it’s only May…but he looks atrocious out there. Atrocious.

  • Ahhh okay, now I understand. lol

  • Metjorge

    Man….4 years of dealing with this?

  • HarveyKsYou

    Gross.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    If you can hear me in your ear you need a psychiatrist and someone needs to up the dosages on your meds. Cause as far as I know these texts have NO voice command AND you dont have to read them or comment either….unless that Son of sam dog is telling you to do it???

  • Joey D.

    Hi George,

    That explains some of it – never be the first out at third.

    DeLarosa of the the five plus ERA and the Mets couldn’t couldn’t even score more than a run in the first leading off with a double followed by two more hits – now can understand. Murphy must have driven him in, is thrown out, then a bases clear single.

    He ran us out of a bigger inning and let Delarosa off the hook.

  • MikeBedlam

    That explains a lot.

  • Ted Danson

    Lagares makes playing the outfield seem easy. Hes just a natural out there.

  • Lagares might be the only guy on this team I like watching play defense. Everyone else scares me.

  • Edward

    If memory serves, Bay was bailed out by convenient injuries throughout his time in NY.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Judge not…

  • George_Theodore

    you got it

  • CJM

    Murphy. He’s turned himself into a gold glove caliber second baseman.

  • Metjorge

    Wow. Going for the record.

  • jason bay

    Most FA’s don’t come close to living up to their contracts but this is extraordinary even for a FA.

    Murphy and some pitching wouldn’t have gotten Pederson in the off season. Hopefully we have the opportunity to get him at the deadline.

  • Joey D.

    One knows how little one is interested in the game when the Mets own network doesn’t show the game in progress and instead shows an interview full screen, only breaking back for the pitch.

  • Mejia has won me over. I was concerned with the cap throwing incident but couldn’t be more happy with his progress. He may surpass Wheeler as things currently look though obviously much too early to say.

  • MikeBedlam

    Oh, no judgement here. Seriously.

  • Nice.

  • Said the same thing yesterday and one day last week. it’s appalling that they do that.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    What does it explain ?

  • BarnRat

    It’s an indictment of our pitching staff that they aren’t out-hitting Grandy

  • Bail4Nails

    They know me well at least. I’d rather see Mejia than Wheeler any day of the week.

  • BronxMets

    Mind boggling why they didn’t sign him

  • MikeBedlam

    How you misunderstood a simple comment below.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Bail,

    LOL, even when he is only showing how to make a pitch as Wheeler is actually throwing them in a game.

  • bspo1

    Granderson needs to be benched or switched in the lineup with TDA

  • He’s also been giving hitting pointers to the Met pitchers.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Which one? Not that you’re right. And, by the way, you ARE judging me

  • HarveyKsYou

    You know Grandy T-Shirt day is on this upcoming homestand. I can see those being thrown on the grown and stomped on.

  • 2rings

    Joe D..cannot win in this ball park with NO OFFENSE

  • MikeBedlam

    At what point does someone have to take the fall for the complete lack of offense from this team? More specifically, when can I plan on having my Hudge Was Fired Party?

  • Super T

    Yeah, and it will probably be another 10 seasons before the Wilpons’ ever sign a big name FA again.

  • HarveyKsYou

    He’s really helped Granderson huh!

  • George_Theodore

    or worse

  • Joey D.

    Hi Paradise,

    Too bad a Met minority owner cannot be with the team tonight and has a show going on live in ten minutes. Colorado is his kind of place – always a mile high.

    Good point. LOL

  • 2rings

    Hudge is only carrying out the stupid organizational philosophy. Don’t get me wrong, I do not like Hudge one bit, but for him to go, they would ALL have to go, then THAT WOULD BE A PARTY!!

  • MikeBedlam

    When I said that 6IP was not the only requirement for a QS.

    I am right. If I was wrong, I would say so. (I know that’s not too common around here).

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Hey Taskmaster4450

    Taskmaster4450 • 14 minutes ago
    So you take a rumor and just keep posting it like it is fact.
    Show where that trade was on the table.

    I DONT DO RUMORS BRO, I only deal with FACTS!!!!

    So here is what Sandy Alderson had to say when Mike Francessa asked him about the OUTFIELD

    SANDY ALDERSON:For example, with the Justin Upton trade to Atlanta. We weren’t prepared to trade WHEELER or Harvey, but you never know what a team is willing to do after a period of time they’ve surveyed the market. So we kind of held out the possibility, well gee, maybe we will be able to work something out with other players in our system. And unfortunately, Hairston signed I think the night before Upton was traded. Had it happened the other way around, then we might have been back in on Scott. But had we made a trade like that we couldn’t guarantee him the playing time that he was looking for.

    http://www.amazinavenue.com/2013/2/13/3987354/new-york-mets-spring-training-michael-bourn-justin-upton

    Sooooo you stand corrected
    Your Apology is accepted…just dont let it happen again 😉

  • billpulsipher

    that great mets starting pitching looking really competitive in coors field. 2 games in a row they got their heads handed to them

  • Anthony

    Clueless

  • 2rings

    I CANNOT STAND Satin and his called 3rd strikes

  • HarveyKsYou

    Drawing an X over the Grandy logo.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Satin has to go

  • billpulsipher

    hes a sandy guy

  • CJM

    Send him down.

  • MikeBedlam

    It’s also Bonfire Night. Go figure.

  • Metjorge

    I haven’t yet figured out which pitch Satin likes to hit.

  • bspo1

    Funny how we are the only team in the majors who can’t hit in Colorado. Sandy hiding behind the record in April, dodging the huge offensive issue.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    TDA changed his batting stance look how closer to the bag his left leg is now

    Kid is lost

  • MikePiazza3186

    He can’t hit that’s the problem

  • billpulsipher

    jeff banned mike francesa from doing his show in citifield during the subway series. jeff once again proving what a gutless coward he is

  • 2rings

    another reason to hate him
    it is SOUP time..call him up, get Satin on the next bus out

  • HarveyKsYou

    Offense looks good! Can anyone on this team ever have a 3-4 or 4-4 day? Jeez.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Minimum of 6 IP, maximum of 3 runs allowed. And your conclusion is unwarranted. My attention was divided-I had filet under the broiler. Late dinner

  • MikeBedlam

    There really is no better time than now.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I’d be very interested in attending such a party, but you’d probably call the cops on me

  • MikePiazza3186

    The answer is no

  • $14435385

    Had enough of Josh and his passive ABs. It’s Soup time.

  • Metjorge

    Lol Tejada bunting for a hit.

  • HarveyKsYou

    And Fatcessa has the best radio show around.

  • George_Theodore

    Yay! Keith found his missing ring!

  • MyasDaddy

    Did Keith get divorced?

  • MikePiazza3186

    Pleas please please please please!!!!!!get us a new shortstop!!!!!!!!!!!!AHHHGGHHH!!!!!

  • MetsfanInParadise

    yes, yes, yes. TC makes excuses for Satin because he’s a bench player and gets few ABs. Then they need to get someone who CAN hit coming off the bench.

  • billpulsipher

    4 games in coors and 3 in miami (who are great in miami) this has all the makings of a 1-6 stretch then Yankees the following week…hell is on the horizon

  • HarveyKsYou

    Do you smoke that garbage ?

  • MikeBedlam

    Which conclusion?

    I had cold pizza (that I paid money for), so you win that battle.

  • Bail4Nails

    I would like to see Dykstra get a shot at Satin’s spot. Doesn’t Campbell play some Outfield? At this point, he cannot be any worse than Grandy or Abreu.

  • George_Theodore

    no, he had lost a ring in the Hamptons, but I guess he found it

  • goorru

    If they can’t buy them ala Metsblog, the Daily news and the 7 Line the Wilpons have no use for you.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    So you drink that garbage?

  • I have this post I’m working on for three days on the offense and what appears to be complete lack of accountability. I was citing a few good articles on the subject. One article by Marc Carig on Tuesday had some interesting insight and quotes. Here’s part of what he wrote:

    So far, they’ve been hitless wonders, wrapping up an encouraging opening month at 15-11 after Wednesday night’s rainout. It’s their best record to start the season since 2007. They enter a four-game series against the Rockies Thursday night as winners of seven of their last nine games.

    The Mets have gotten by relying on a familiar formula: pitching and defense. Their starters have posted a 3.37 ERA, seventh in the National League. Their fielders have converted 71.7 percent of batted balls into outs, sixth best in the league.

    But if the Mets intend to follow through on their fast start — and make a legitimate bid to reach the 90-win goal set by general manager Sandy Alderson — they’ll need more out of an offense that has done just enough to get by.

    “It’s just a matter of you’ve got to continue to plug forward,” Mets manager Terry Collins said. “Keep applying yourself, don’t get down about what you’re hitting. Just try to continue to put a good swing on the ball.”

    The Mets have scored 4.08 runs per game, good for seventh in the National League. But they have done so despite ranking 14th in average (.220), 10th in on-base percentage (.300) and 15th in slugging (.319). As of yesterday, they led the NL with 242 strikeouts.

    Nevertheless, there is optimism within the front office that the hits will eventually start falling. It’s rooted in the belief that the Mets have not been rewarded for scorching the ball.

    At 21.7 percent, the Mets’ line-drive rate ranks fifth best in the major leagues, according to data from FanGraphs.com. Considering how hard the Mets have hit the ball, one estimate puts the team’s expected batting average for balls in play at a healthy .326, good enough for third in all of baseball.

    Instead, the Mets have just a .282 average for balls in play, which lags at 25th.

    That disparity points to some bad luck.

    Of course, that belief isn’t universal. Statistics recording batted balls are ultimately subjective. One observer’s liner could be another’s fly ball. For instance, Inside Edge scouting data ranked the Mets among the worst at making solid contact.

    Even Collins said recently that he takes batted ball data “with a grain of salt.”

    “Yeah, we’ve hit some balls hard,” he said. “But I haven’t noticed a big bunch of balls that people are making catches on or anything.”

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    What it is, is stupid. Jeff can’t win that one, but of course that’s way over his rug.

  • Metjorge

    I am sick of these coaching staff too. Everyone needs to go.

  • HarveyKsYou

    We’re not winning this game… No life from the offense. No one in this lineup has any pop. Wish we signed Marlon Byrd and left this bum Granderson to go to his shitty home town White Sox.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    That any misreading of a comment was due to a toke

  • 2rings

    Dykstra is another lefty , only 1b I think,,although I would take him over Duda in a heartbeat.
    Soup is utility guy..outfield and corner infield spots

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Exactly

  • HarveyKsYou

    Daddy Warthen

  • Edward

    Yeah, I think I’ll watch one more inning of this garbage, and then I’m out. No way I’m spending my Saturday in sunny Australia watching this anaemic offence.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Yea seems everyone improved

  • sperry

    Thinking of Warthen being there for 7 years now makes me feel old

  • MikeBedlam

    Lol. Never. I don’t do cops. Besides, in my neighborhood, there has to be an imminent felony for them to show up.

  • Metjorge

    Swap the roster and coaching staff between MLB and AAA.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Mejia was ALWAYS better than Wild Wheels

  • 2rings

    with exception of DW, this is a minor league defensive infield, and YES that includes Murph

  • bspo1

    Maybe Werthen can be the hitting coach also.

  • ArchieBellandTheDrells

    Tejada needs to go.

  • 2rings

    and makes me want to puke

  • HarveyKsYou

    It’s him or Q.

  • Selltheteam06

    Maybe he can be the shortstop

  • CJM

    Glad to see all the Sandy Lovers have returned to their homes within a force field impenetrable by baseball knowledge.

  • Ted Danson

    Hakuna Tejada!

  • HarveyKsYou

    I vote Chris Carlin.

  • 2rings

    we need a snowstorm to roll through for the next 2 days, and get the heck out of here

  • MikeBedlam

    Oh. I was only joking. No offense intended.

  • So, here is where we are in the cycle for those taking notes. We’ve gone through a few days of commenters (such as me) warning that we cannot sustain this pace without some offense. The optimists pointed out that we are not capable of enjoying a good run and must always complain. Now, as things are looking a bit more dicey, we start saying many things just short of “I told you so” as we still have a winning record and the optimists are a bit quieter but still think that we complain too much, In a couple of weeks, when we are dipping a bit below the .500 mark, the optimists will accuse us of being happy to see the team losing when we talk about how we saw it coming. I do hope at that point we can stay close enough to .500 to make a run after we bring in some new bats. See, I’m an optimist, too.

  • Metjorge

    It’s almost time to bring in Papa Grande.

  • Bail4Nails

    RANGERS WIN!!!

  • HarveyKsYou

    He’s going to give up eight runs.. What a bum.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Who cares.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Sandy lovers only come out when the team wins a gae so they can say, “You guys complain too much enjoy this game we won” then disappear for the next 7game losing streak

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I read the same line drive and BABIP figures. What do your eyeballs tell you? I feel like we’ve been hitting at-’em balls for the last 2 years but our luck can’t be that much worse than other teams for that long, can it?

  • Also, Collins doesn’t have the luxury of choosing his coaches, not even his bench coach Geren. I’m not sure he’s all that thrilled with Hudge.

  • Means lot of worries.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Nothing wrong with Warthen or Teufel. And I challenge you to have a legit complaint about a bullpen coach

  • Waz0787

    Yes!!!!!!

  • Joey D.

    Hi BBLB,

    You know how often I posted that quote from Sandy during the interview he had with Francesa from February 2013 to make a point about how waiting instead of being more aggressive in the off-season could backfire as a strategy? Even though in hindsight neither outfielder would have contributed in 2014, that was not anticipated at the time when the Mets were trying to get either one of them and they wound up with nothing.

    That it worked out in our favor was not by design but by unplanned luck.

  • ArchieBellandTheDrells

    Blackmons got Parnell face

  • 2rings

    I know TdA is the wave of the future, but I wonder in a setting like this, Recker is not the better defensive option for young pitcher against this red hot lineup

  • HarveyKsYou

    Wheeler is terrible.

  • Metjorge

    Uhmm why didnt he throw the ball?

  • Yeah. I think that’s why this is scary. I expected him to not live up to the contract. I just didn’t expect that to start now. We’ve talked about this. If we had to get a veteran on our budget I wanted Beltran. As for Pederson, Murphy and Montero would’ve been enough. And no I don’t want to give away Montero, but I like Pederson that much.

  • bspo1

    Wheeler trying to out do colon. What will Mejia do tomorrow?!?

  • MikeBedlam

    Good point. And one that I had forgotten about. While I’m not a TC fan, this might’ve been the only gig that TC had available, and it certainly is not a cake walk.

  • Waz0787

    Exactly I have been called names for calling them out. Hey jessep u there buddy?

  • 2rings

    I do…YES

  • Bail4Nails

    Well, the Rangers didn’t send me a letter chiding me for lack of loyalty. They simply MAKE THE PLAYOFFS every year. They make me feel so much better when the Mets are getting crushed.

  • Given that we don’t have another SS who is capable of starting, what exactly is the experiment?

  • HarveyKsYou

    You should be banned for that.

  • At this point, just get innings kid. Wow.

  • Be awesome.

  • HarveyKsYou

    You have no right to talk to someone like that.

  • Destry

    Wheeler better work very hard on learning to get lefties out or hes gonna end up a RP

  • I’m not a firm believer in BABIP or any stat that has various subjective parts to it.

    Stats or no stats, our offense is bad.

    Adding two huge strikeout guys to a team that led the majors in whiffs seemed like an odd decision to me.

    My hope was that Grandy would compensate with a ton of homers and doubles but it hasn’t happened. Yet.

  • They DVR’d all of the games before yesterday and plan to watch them in order repeatedly until the Mets win 90 games.

  • We need a closer, I guess. smh.

  • Ted Danson

    HILLSIDE HONDA.

  • BarnRat

    Just not with that invective

  • HarveyKsYou

    I’m not a troll. Get over yourself. You want a troll? Go find Alex or Trevor or Leroy Brown. I speak how I feel and Wheeler is highly overrated and is not as talented as they make him out to be.

  • Oh boy, that could be ugly.

  • QueensRussell

    Oh for crying out loud. Just tuned in and I thought it was a repeat of last night’s telecast. WTH!!!

  • This games not over. Since it’s the 5th and they need to play 9. That said, we will lose.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Who do you think you are? Mr know it all tough college boy! Lol.

  • igotyourbackman

    Way to believe in your team!

  • QueensRussell

    Encouraging!

  • MetsfanInParadise

    The insulting commenters are just like the ones who give you the finger on the highway. It’s easy to be an asshole when it’s not to someone’s face. I don’t give a crap who loves or hates Sandy–I wish everyone would just concentrate on the game and not on showing each other up

  • I said this yesterday but I continue to be embarrassed for Lagares. Surrounded by this sad excuse of an offense.

  • How about we chill out? All opinions are welcome here.

  • Destry

    He blasted a 3 run bomb last night and is hitting .300 over his last 10……yeah lost

  • bspo1

    CY Young Rockies at it again.

  • QueensRussell

    Let’s Go Mets!

  • igotyourbackman

    You like to hear yourself type…

  • Mike Lloyd

    Lol

  • HarveyKsYou

    Thank you. He has no right to talk to me like I’m a POS.

  • ArchieBellandTheDrells

    Idea: Fire Collins, make Granderson retire and become the manager. Win-Win and the mets get Grandersons worth out of his contract.

  • Hey, I’m still watching. And that was a joke. That said, it was based in truth.

  • Super T

    Wheeler hasn’t even had a FULL season in the bigs yet. But, you ALREADY know he sucks? Care to tell us how Syndergaard, Montero, and deGrom are all going to do in the bigs too, seeing you ALREADY know Wheeler sucks?

  • QueensRussell

    Lagares as usual!

  • Tommy Med

    Jaun Lagares > Pete Rose

  • HarveyKsYou

    This guy is exciting to watch! Really rooting for him.

  • Edward

    Noooo! These guys are far more entertaining than this POS game.

  • Lagares is awesome.

  • QueensRussell

    We need a 3-run bomb

  • Metjorge

    That’s it. Lagares did his thing. Take the field now.

  • 2rings

    Juan needs to STAY away from Hudge

  • IF…Lagares becomes a base stealer…he’s the PERFECT Citi Field player.

  • CJM

    Hahaha. ANOTHER hit for Lagares!! And all you SANDY LOVERS want Eric “strike out” Young to start over him. LMFAO

  • bspo1

    Far far away.

  • Edward

    No doubt, lord forbid any of those three go through the natural growing pains of becoming a major league pitcher.

  • Tommy Med

    Murphy takes some of the worst swings I’ve ever seen from a major league player

  • Ilgranformaggio

    A bit harsh, but I get the frustration. So many people deal in absolutes and hyperbole. Terrible tonight, yes. As a body of work, “terrible” is a word used just to elicit such invective responses.

  • QueensRussell

    No one wants anyone starting over Lagares. Seriously.

  • HarveyKsYou

    He has looked bad this year.. I’m sorry.

  • Gland1

    It often seems around here that people care more about what “side” they are on than the team itself

  • MikeBedlam

    He’s got the speed. Just needs better reads and to work on his first step.

  • 2rings

    I hate when murph does that..one handed fling. he is too good a hitter to do that

  • bspo1

    Is Murphy Louis Castillo or something?

  • A Wright HR after the 2 singles would be nice and give us something good to take away from this game.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Exactly. I’m so over it

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Dont bring my name in this. Fight your own battles

  • QueensRussell

    You need to post in the Idiot Box; you’re in the wrong place.

  • metsfan79

    Lagares is one of the only reason to watch this team. Is it too soon to dfa granderson?

  • CJM

    Obviously you’re not seeing any of the SAndy Lovers commenting here.

  • Make Lagares Captain and demote Wright to private.

  • HarveyKsYou

    It’s scary when Lagares is your best offensive player.. Because he isn’t going to hit you HR and therefor will be stranded on base a lot

  • Gland1

    Me too. It’s exhausting. I don’t understand what enjoyment there is in that.

  • 2rings

    the capt is really scuffling. What it is avg now? .240?

  • HarveyKsYou

    I give Granderson until July before I believe he should retire.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Insane huh???

    Hope you dont take offense when I return the favor and retaliate just as vile

    And I will 😉

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Gotta refresh the page and move this conversation to the top of the thread

  • Metjorge

    It’s a 4 game series too. This could turn really ugly. Let’s hope Mejia can stop the bleeding tomorrow.

  • When I started this site I was told it was doomed to failure and you can’t embrace all fan opinion. It’s been challenging, but I still stay true to the concept of giving all Met fans their say without fear of attacks or insults.

    For example, that post by Jessep today was totally contrary to what I believe, but it’s his opinion and he’s entitled to it.

    If everyone just disagreed more civilly it could be better than it is now.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Even so… This team just shows no life at the plate. I can’t believe they regressed from last year.

  • Waz0787

    People need to go easy on wheeler. He was drafted by a winning . Their pitching coach is one of the best. Poor kid got traded to the mets. That’s not his fault. He did everything one can do to to win a game last start our bullpen blew it. We have 3 young pitchers in triple A. One of them will take his place nothing changes.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Oh, someone will hit one in the 9th, when it doesn’t matter

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    The moderator needs to be MODERATED

    LMFAO…what a conflict of interest >_< hahahaha

  • QueensRussell

    Hey Everyone, Look, I’m a Douchebag Troll and I chose the clever name of “Unblockable.”

  • Well, Gary, he sucks. That’s what Ojeda should have said.

  • goorru

    troll

  • Metjorge

    Why isn’t Ojeda the pitching coach?

  • Waz0787

    He is not going anywhere

  • MetsfanInParadise

    What? What was so good about last year?

  • 2rings

    amen..and Keith the hitting coach..
    They both see what the issue are, and say it before it happens almost every time

  • 3doza33

    We are in need of a blockbuster trade to shake things up! Trade everybody!! We need a Tulo type player. This is so painful watching these guys! If they don’t want to make a trade then they need to fire our hitting coach! His time is way past the due date!!

  • Super T

    I would be willing to wager that Sandy doesn’t want EY starting over Lagares, if anyone – it would probably be TC who seems to prefer playing veterans over kids.

  • Gland1

    People might be allowed to have their say and offer differing opinions, but the attacks and insults are everywhere.

  • Edward

    Yeah, but there’s no doubt in my mind what colour he bleeds. You on the other hand…..

  • MetsfanInParadise

    MLB online doesn’t provide the studio feed so I don’t hear a word of what Bobby O is saying. They broadcast the game straight from the park, not back through the SNY studio. Someone enlighten me?

  • Trade everybody! That’s absolutely ridiculous. We need to keep Lagares.

  • Connor O’Brien

    So… nobody?

  • BarnRat

    The movie Alien…. the acid the alien had that burned through everything in the ship. That’s my game summary at this point.

  • bspo1

    I agree something needs to give. Our pitching staff up until yesterday had been great. We cannot sustain winning like we have with this terrible offense.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Satin almost botched the underhand toss

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    I’ve got massive problems with the way this org is run, but I want the players to succeed. I don’t mind contrary opinions, but having to hear the same-old same-old “Ha ha, X sucks” eventually drains the enjoyment from this site. I come here to add to the pleasure of the game, but lately it feels like being chained to a dentist’s chair.

  • Connor O’Brien

    His career ERA is about 3.5. Hardly an abomination.

  • Ojeda speaks like a guy on the Met’s payroll.

  • bspo1

    I don’t agree with trade everyone. I’m more speaking of acquiring a professional hitter and firing Hudgens.

  • CJM

    Here’s a list of players who’ve done well this year:
    Lagares-Omar’s guy
    Murphy-Omar’s guy
    Duda-Omar’s guy
    Niese-Omar’s guy
    Gee-Omar’s guy
    Mejia-Omar’s guy

    Here’s a list of players who’ve been terrible this year:
    Granderson-Sandy’s guy
    Chris Young-Sandy’s guy
    Eric Young-Sandy’s guy
    D’SLOW-Sandy’s guy
    Colon-Sandy’s guy
    Wheeler-Sandy’s guy
    Bullpen-Sandy’s guys
    Wright-Steve Phillips’ guy

    SEE A PATTERN HERE? #BringBackOmar

  • BronxMets

    Absolutely not

  • Metjorge

    Familia looking good. Hopefully Terry is paying attention.

  • Yup.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Seems irrational. They’re bound to bounce back. That’s just how it works, unless the entire team is suddenly Jason Bay…

  • Super T

    Think Harvey’s incredible MLB start has really set some unrealistic expectations for a lot of Met fans. Hate to break it to a lot of you, but the MLB start for Wheeler is much more the norm for young players (struggles & adversity) than Harveys.

  • BronxMets

    Yes you are insane

  • MikeBedlam

    I love this site’s overall philosophy, but the only way to keep these threads civil is a “block user” feature. You add in vastly different opinions with old blowhards and the young “Youtube commenter” generation, then you’re asking for trouble. By giving people the ability to shut off who they don’t WANT to hear, it keeps the discourse more civil while allowing those that aren’t here to troll more enjoyment with like-minded fans.

  • CJM

    Another Omar guy.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Yes, they traded two months of an older player with no draft picks attached and no money to re-sign him for a highly regarded pitching prospect.

  • CJM

    Fernandez, Wacha, et. al. beg to differ. When Wheeler was brought in, Sandy told US he was gonna be an ACE. Well, ACES don’t fail this much. He’s mediocre at best. #FireSandy

  • I apologize for that. It’s hard to maintain complete control especially in this age of dynamic IPs that change with a simple device reboot.

    All we can do is try to contain it. But believe me it frustrates me too.

  • Connor O’Brien

    *facapalm*

  • Waz0787

    He is who he is. If the oposition scores more than two runs. Chances of losing is pretty high. We need talents simple

  • Bail4Nails

    I’ve wasted so much breath begging for Offensive upgrades. They could easily bring up Campbell and/or Dykstra to spark the Offense, which of course they won’t. But for now, why not just:
    EY LF
    Lagares CF
    Murphy 2B
    Wright 3B
    Duda 1B (Still think Soup/Dykstra would be way better)
    CY RF
    D’Arnaud C
    Anyone else SS

    I’m not a huge EY fan, but him Leading Off is easily more productive than Grandy anywhere in this Lineup. Terry has to shake things up until Sandy gets his head out of his ass.

  • goorru

    Are you seriously trying to have a real conversation with him?

  • Metjorge

    Who strikes out next? Any bets?

  • Connor O’Brien

    The artist formerly known as “TheVoiceofReason”

  • HarveyKsYou

    Well I mean I’m only a true fan who actually gets annoyed when we do bad.. Why else wojld I be in this thread if I wasn’t a true die hard? I’m annoyed that he got lit up. And scouts have even said he looks like an Edwin Jackson type.. For proof Steve Adams of MLB TR replied to a question of mine with that. He is a credible source.

  • Waz0787

    The commissioner made him the mets gm. Selig ain’t going no where

  • Connor O’Brien

    You’re right, I have to stop.

  • jason bay

    Well Schneck.

    You should look at in the prisim of all those few who claimed we were “in it” in 2011 and shouldn’t have traded Beltran and then Shouldn’t have traded a Cy Young award winner and “what outfield and box of choclates and all this other crap.

    The facts are that this team needed a full scale rebuild for the longest time but the owners couldn’t afford one and after hearing about how we were going to go 10-17 in April I think everyone had a right to feel excited about being 15-11. Certainly people that claimed who would go 10-17 would have only been too glad if we had.

    The reality is teams evolve over a period of years and Alderson is not building a one and done so the expectation level has to be adjusted. In the Majors there are a number of core players and in the minors many more.

    If you wanted a good team in 2014 you should have outraged over all the short sighted, self serving indulgences of the early and mid ’00s which prevented that from occurring.

  • Edward

    Yep, only way to make the comment section more civil is to shed the veil. Link the comments with their social networking sites (Facebook).

  • I’ve implored Disqus to please add an ignore feature, and they assure me it’s in development. That was 2 months ago. I will send them another email on that.

  • igotyourbackman

    You lobby for Omar?

  • 2rings

    crooked number…here we go boys!

    now that is crooked. now just a little more crooked

  • BarnRat

    Not hitting at Coors against a guy with a 5.2 era = not hitting. We need bats!!!

  • Taskmaster4450

    For those who didnt notice, Flores back in at SS in Vegas and hit a HR tonight.

  • Gland1

    That’s a good way to say it. I’ve been slowly realizing that I haven’t been enjoying this blog for exactly what you describe. It seems like certain people are more focused on proving their “side” right than enjoying the team and the game.

  • HarveyKsYou

    It should frustrate you even more that a site writer (I think I’ve seen him publish some stuff, or maybe not)/ regular who is cursing out people who love the site. Yeah I was being negative but I’m not trolling I’m just pissed.

  • Connor O’Brien

    A platoon partner with Duda would be a good callup. Oh wait… (Josh Satin). Use him!

  • Metjorge

    They are going to have to make a third warmup mound for Matsusaka everywhere they go.

  • Yay. Thanks for the update.

  • Destry

    How is it the Rox have 7 hits 1 BB 1 2B and we have 6 hits 1 BB 1 2B yet the score is 7-1?

  • Mcgrupp81

    That guy is 30-5 at Coors Field

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    You stand corrected son 😉 FACTS!!!!!

    Last on the list of hopefuls is Wheeler, the return haul in the trade that sent Carlos Beltran to the Giants. Because Wheeler is a year younger and a year behind Harvey and Familia in his development, he is spending this spring in Minor League camp. But Wheeler may be the most talented of the bunch, and is a good bet to join those two at Binghamton to start the season.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120302&content_id=26963560&c_id=mlb

    Wheeler, Harvey and Familia all landed on MLB.com’s 2012 Top 100 Prospects list, released Wednesday, with Wheeler topping the list at 28th overall, Harvey clocking in at 38th and Familia at 90th.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120124&content_id=26453076&vkey=news_nym&c_id=nym

    Wheeler, 22, was ranked as the 11th best prospect in baseball by Baseball America before the season. Reports during spring training touted him as better than fellow right-hander Matt Harvey, but that’s hard to believe at this point. Harvey is in line to start the All-Star Game at Citi Field this July thanks to his 5-0 record and 1.93 ERA.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/22290469/zack-wheeler-expected-to-join-mets-after-23-more-triplea-starts

    I dont make things up kid, strictly FACTS

  • igotyourbackman

    Boobies behind home. White shirt

  • I was talking about the specific conversation about Hudgens that was going on when I typed the comment, where he was oozing praise. Not in general.

  • George_Theodore

    finally!

  • Grandy Time!!! I called it but forgot to type it.

  • Mcgrupp81

    Granderson 2 Run Bomb. That’ll hold him for a couple of weeks.

  • igotyourbackman

    Yay boobies and a HR!

  • sperry

    He needs to play in a hitter’s park. It’s really that simple.

  • Ted Danson

    I pissed and missed it.

  • MikeBedlam

    Did that really just happen?

  • Mike Lloyd

    He’s in the same doghouse that Tejada was for 2 years.

  • Metjorge

    Maybe that’ll get him going.

  • Tommy Med

    That was a LASER

  • Emmanuel

    IS THIS REAL LIFE?

  • bspo1

    Good stuff Grandy!

  • metsfan79

    Well to be fare technically j.bay hit better then tejada, granderson, tda, satin, eyj

  • CJM

    Well Murphy blew one run for them on a boneheaded play in the first. Otherwise, it’s Alderson’s fault.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Unblockable,

    It is too early to say Zack is an abomination. We can see that he has the potential but whether or not he will master it is another story.

    So won’t use this an excuse to bash him but this still doesn’t alter the fact that he was obtained because the ownership and front office had to unload themselves of more than $100 million in order to meet their payment obligations and that included a firm decision to rid themselves of Beltran and KRod which didn’t change as the Mets found themselves in the wildcard race – a commitment to trying to do one’s best to win which didn’t seem as important as a commitment to stay as owners – which from a business point of view is understandable.

    So the circumstances in which we obtained Wheeler were an abomination, but that has nothing to do with Zack and we should not put him in the middle of this.

  • BarnRat

    OK!! A whiff of oxygen!

  • Destry

    Our SP have given up 14 runs and pitched less than 5 IP in both games. Could make a case for either

  • MikeBedlam

    It’s not about the total hits, it’s about WHEN they were hit. 😉

  • Super T

    Do you share your account with anyone, cause as often as your positions seemingly switch, it’s hard to know which one of your personas I’m responding too?

  • Connor O’Brien

    1. “may be” — and it was when they were both prospects
    2. lists balance both potential and likelihood of being an MLB regular– and it was when they were both prospects
    3. see above — and it was when they were both prospects

    No one called Wheeler a guaranteed ace like you claim.

    (I’m not going to look at your response, so don’t even bother typing one.)

  • bspo1

    Okay down by 4 now. Let’s go!

  • Edward

    uh oh, pitcher is rattled. Oppo taco!!!!!

  • Mike Lloyd

    It’s never over in Colorado 🙂

  • goorru

    Satin = waste of a roster spot.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    The #CORE salute you, CJM.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Not at all.

  • mad met

    Not a fan of the sand man. But i want ey playing over granderson cuz he suck butt

  • Rally Time.

  • Destry

    He had stolen 28 straight. Give em a break

  • Beats that other whiff we’ve been smelling for two days.

  • Taskmaster4450

    That was out down the line in Citi also.

  • I apologize for that. I just got off the phone with him and it will never happen again.

  • Edward

    or perhaps TC will call for a sacrifice bunt.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Haha good point!

  • Bail4Nails

    Satin of the .143 Batting Average? Yes, I’ve heard of him. He’s the guy who Walks or Strikes Out all the time, right? I always confuse him with most of the other players on the team.

  • Waz0787

    Damned I went to take a pass and ganderson hits a hr. Smh

  • HarveyKsYou

    Somewhere Mike Francesa is clapping. Go watch the video of him clapping profusely after Grandy got his first hit as a met.

  • Ted Danson

    Got something going.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Very small sample size…

  • igotyourbackman

    Keep it going now

  • I knew this would happen. I knew they weren’t done. My account was hacked earlier by the way.

  • Metjorge

    Brewers on fire. Another save for K-rod

  • Joey D.

    Yes, that was a home run regardless. And I’ll take that broken bat single by Travis too.

  • That’s it. Pee every Granderson at-bat.

  • QueensRussell

    Sorry, you’re not man enough to post your photo or a real name, poor little puke.

  • IF…Tejada homers here…what will you do??

  • Bail4Nails

    So was April’s Pitching. We need Offense!

  • Novito

    It’s hilarious to see fans talk so much bs about Curtisssssss, with the really bad start (and i understand trust me), but he gets a HR and now its “this should get him going”, “Grandyyyy”, “GrandyMan” etc. y’all flip quicker than a coin. Lol

  • MikeBedlam

    I spend time reading ESPN. Believe me, that hasn’t worked for them, either.

  • SchadenfreudianSlip

    Its time for me to admit something.

    I think I might be a jinx.

    The Mets score far more frequently when I’m not watching. I’m not sure if their offensive challenges are entirely my fault but it does appear that at least some of it is on me.

    I feel better having admitted it.

    I missed the Granderson HR. I just turned back on the game. I apologize in advance.

  • Tommy Med

    TDA actually has a swing similar to Wright. He’s gotta cut that wiggle tho. That split second is holding him back. wright should work with him.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Harvey was in the league pitching cant you read and these are only a few reports I just pulled out of a hat.

    Youre full of it kid grow up and admit when youre wrong. Live to see another day dont ruin your reputation/credibility.

  • I’ll eat my hat. And grab a beer. Well, I’ll grab the beer either way.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Bunt; move the runners over.

  • Metjorge

    We are being sarcastic.

  • CJM

    That doesn’t change the fact that it was a stupid, stupid play that cost them at least a run.

  • DL!! DL!! Bring up Flores.

  • MyasDaddy

    Glad you’re not the manager

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LMFAO….WOW

  • Kidding.

  • Haha. You’re winning so far.

  • Ted Danson

    LOL@ Keith

  • goorru

    Gee I hope Ruben is ok…..

  • igotyourbackman

    Just because you think it doesn’t mean you have to share it

  • Selltheteam06

    Get Flores up here for the game tomorrow, hes starting at SS tonight

  • Novito

    Some of you are lol

  • KEITH

    That’s what I thought.

  • CJM

    Diagnosed as a bipolar sociopath 8 years ago. Have spent the last 4 years in and out of psych wards.

  • Destry

    Yeah cause we shouldve kept Beltran for one more month?

  • Waz0787

    Damn I thought tejeda broke his leg. Got excited flores time.

  • CJM

    They better. I’m just sharing facts here.

  • HarveyKsYou

    So you want him to hit into a DP or fly out?? Because that really helps.

  • Novito

    I see some who really do flip like a coin my dude so speak for yourself

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Tejada should go on the DL for precautionary reasons. hitting the ball of your foot could be career ending

  • MyasDaddy

    I can understand if those are the tying runs on base. But they are not.

  • Destry

    Even if we lose were 15-13. Were you expecting 162-0?

  • Mike Lloyd

    Run naked wildly through the street with just a Met hat on…Lol

  • CJM

    Seems like Tejada always has long at-bats against lefties.

  • Haha. Mike Lloyd takes the lead.

  • He really, really sucks.

  • Mcgrupp81

    weak

  • Destry

    Should we hang him in the street to teach a lessen?

  • SchadenfreudianSlip

    I mean, I warned you all. And I did apologize.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Should’ve bunted..

  • Ted Danson

    Thanks for nothin Tejada.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    maybe you should work on improving your relationship with Josh and Howie.

  • Abreu, go deep!

  • CJM

    Blame Sandy for that double play. The shortstop problem should’ve been solved MONTHS ago.

  • Rally Killer.

  • KEITH

    Troy Tejada. Nope.

  • BronxMets

    ok can the Flores ss talk be over please he is awful

  • MikePiazza3186

    I hate u sandy!!!

  • MyasDaddy

    I know what you’re going to say but you still shouldn’t do it.

  • Super T

    LOL, good to know –

    CJM • 3 days ago

    I just gotta say, we owe this all to Sandy Alderson, who again displayed his genius in acquiring Travis d’Arnaud. As Mets fans, we’re incredibly lucky to have such a great GM with such a high IQ.

  • Selltheteam06

    he is not worse than Tejada

  • CJM

    A tar and feathering should be sufficient.

  • On the plus side it was a great at-bat for Tejada. (ducks)

  • bspo1

    In grand fashion my tv shut off on its own after tejedas DP

  • SchadenfreudianSlip

    So hard to go back to AM radio after having adjusted to listening to ball on the FM dial.

    But I do love me some Josh pop culture references.

  • Metjorge

    Come on Abreu. Show them how it is done.

  • Sandy Alderson faux

    At least we know shortstop is not our problem here.

  • Metjorge

    Looking for the fences

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Blah, blah, blah. This is who we’ve got. Live with it.

  • Waz0787

    He looked perfectly fine hitting into dp

  • QueensRussell

    A single would work just fine

  • MikePiazza3186

    Sandy better do something about tejada by next week

  • Mike Lloyd

    Damn was hoping for a chance..

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Its 1 thing to say hey

    Miggy Cabrera just cleared the bases

    AND

    Ruben Tejada just cleared the bases

    the difference between a double play to clear the bases and a bases clearing hit

  • Super T

    CJM • 3 days ago

    I just gotta say, we owe this all to Sandy Alderson, who again displayed his genius in acquiring Travis d’Arnaud. As Mets fans, we’re incredibly lucky to have such a great GM with such a high IQ.

  • Waz0787

    He did

  • Peter S

    Do we all love Grandy now?

  • igotyourbackman

    Professional hitter my ass

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Were not out of it!

  • bspo1

    The Sandy/Hudgens approach!

  • BronxMets

    Brandon and Alexa are cute but how many blonde and how many black guys are buying tickets

  • HarveyKsYou

    We have the longest innings and come away with so little.

  • CJM

    LMFAO. Sandy Alderson’s AARP All-Stars! Featuring Bobby Abreu, Bartolo Colon, and Jose Valverde! They’ll DOMINATE the old timers’ game this year!

  • Waz0787

    Damn mets are slick. Grandy hits HR and bam he is on tv

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Not all of us. he still has to show a lot more.

  • SchadenfreudianSlip

    Hey, welcome to the party. Can’t keep a good man down, right A Dog?

  • George_Theodore

    Alexa’s blind?

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Broken record. collapse thread.

  • CJM

    I don’t know man. I’ll run those numbers and get back to you. Sit tight.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Love the garbage bin in the background but I think Sandy should be facing it

  • BronxMets

    Defensively he is Flores Duda and Murphy in your infield would be the Swiss cheese of I fields

  • bspo1

    We’ve been saying that since October 1st 2013

  • BarnRat

    Maybe not enough?

  • Mike Lloyd

    I’ll bet $20 bucks Collins calls Abreu a “crossover” bat. “He can hit lefty’s and righty’s equally Kev”…”We need to get Bobby going”

  • Joey D.

    Hi Connor,

    I’m sorry but you are wrong – the Mets were hyping Zack Wheeler big time since the trade in 2011. And then what was “super Tuesday” all about along with the bottles of champaign waiting for him in Atlanta?

    If you want to take the word “guaranteed” in the literal sense, then yes, the Mets were not doing that, however, please don’t make it appear as if that was not their intent and that they were not trying to spin that idea full throttle.

    It was obvious that this was BBLB ‘s intent all along and thus to to cite him on a technicality by his use of the word “guarantee” was like a misuse of stats.

  • MikeBedlam

    He’s a crossover between old and should be retired.

    As is TC.

  • HarveyKsYou

    I like the black hair woman. She’s much more attractive.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    The only alternative to 40 year old retreads in the bullpen and on the bench is to go young. I really think Sandy should crunch some numbers and figure out if filling some seats is worth abandoning some of those Super Two concerns.

  • CJM

    Classic. Atlanta is crumbling and the METS can’t be the lowly Rockies with a chance to really grab this division by the balls. #FireSandy

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Bring the damn kids up! They can’t do any worse!

  • Super T

    Cubs

  • KEITH

    Colorado offense,even without 2 top players, is legit. Reminds me of when we played Detroit, last year. Can’t keep up.

  • CJM

    I think it’s the Yankees for the trivia answer.

  • Mike Lloyd

    Go ‘Young’ ? TC tries that enough-as in E. Young. Lol…

  • MikeBedlam

    He’s so non-committal with the young players, it’s disgusting. If they want to be a young and talented team, the young guys should be playing in MLB instead of Vegas.

  • Mike Lloyd

    Agreed

  • Waz0787

    Damn subway series is coming up. We getting swept

  • MetsfanInParadise

    My guess is the Marlins. They’ve had some truly awful stretches in between their big seasons

  • Matt Mosher

    Yeah. Best offense in the biz right now.

  • CJM

    Wow another great stop by our fearless leader Travis d’Blow.

  • Matt Mosher

    Boy thank god we passed on Jose Abreu.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I mean, “Too bad Dinger wasn’t back there.”

  • Mike Lloyd

    It’s going to be his downfall. You can’t be a rebuilding team with a Manager who doesn’t trust young players.

  • HarveyKsYou

    I automatically went to the 2013 marlins.

  • Selltheteam06

    Are you kidding? Flores could not have much less range than tejada and would bat at least 40 points higher. The worst thing that would happen is Flores gets sent back down.

  • Waz0787

    Campbell is 27 lol. Young according to mets standard. I rather watch them lose with young one’s then scrubs

  • saturn

    Did you see that pitch? I did. I mean, TDA and the batter were lucky they werent hit. TDA has one passed ball I believe, but the mental mistakes and the passed balls and have been scored “wild pitches” are quite a few…this time…the ball kind of just slipped from Torres hand like he had oil in it.

  • Super T

    Yeah, we sure wouldn’t want a pesky cleanup hitter driving in runs in this mess of a lineup.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    In-ca-VEEL-ya

  • Mike Lloyd

    Can he get up to Mario Mendoza territory first?

  • bspo1

    we are never even in the conversation for productive players, it’s sad.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    John Lannan

  • HarveyKsYou

    Let’s show some fight… Or not

  • CJM

    Great at-bat by Murphy there. First pitch swinging when they’re down 4 with nobody on, late in the game. Stud batter.

  • BronxMets

    The 150m singles hitter is up

  • MikePiazza3186

    Murph is ice cold again

  • BarnRat

    Well, my biggest concern tonight is that Juan is only 2-4 and hasn’t drawn a walk

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Punch and Judy hitting David Wright with the power of Juan Pierre

  • bspo1

    oh yeah, I forgot about him!

  • bspo1

    I wish SNY and the media would stop talking about a player the Wilpons can’t afford.

  • Super T

    That outside slider gets Wright like everytime.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Wright had stuck out in almost every game this year.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Lol captain!!

  • bspo1

    time for a day off. He always comes out strong after a day off.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Wow David Wright looks good oiut there with that swing

    Hope he doesnt spend his $140M all in one place

  • Who represents the Mets in ASG this year? They have to choose at least one of them.

  • BronxMets

    he is such a leader

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    $140mil to Wright and you thought Bays contract was a burden

  • CJM

    Valverde.

  • bspo1

    Lagares or Gee?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Jennry Mejia
    Juan Lagares

  • George_Theodore

    Lagares

  • HarveyKsYou

    Niese.

  • Kid8

    Murph

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Bobby Abreu

  • Waz0787

    Tejeda

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Carlos Torres

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    John Lannan

  • jason bay

    There all a burden.

    Red Sox and Cardinals have the right idea.

    Trade and buy to rent, then get something for them before they age out.

  • BarnRat

    If it’s Lagares that would be saying a lot of good and bad things about the 1st half.

  • Waz0787

    Torres should see Collins when his arm fall off.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Lagares, mejia, Niese, wright

  • Kid8

    Late inning defensive replacement to implement the deke.

  • jason bay

    Lagares all the way.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Where’s our Charlie Blackman? An actual star type player (based on his stats so far; he’s not a star though).

  • bspo1

    must be nice to have an offense.

  • KEITH

    Scary. Blackmon has better numbers than our whole team. Who?

  • HarveyKsYou

    And here the mets are who hit weak ground balls and fly outs.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I love how Mets fans discredit ballparks like Colorado and Philly and call them bandboxes but when the Mets go there they cant hit.

  • BarnRat

    Brutal. Cooking show anyone?

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    The lowly Rockies? They are 17-13 entering this game with the best offense in the national league. What are you talking about? The Braves just got swept in Miami. The Cardinals just lost to the Cubs. It’s a loss. The sky isn’t falling.

  • Destry

    That’s been something I’ve thought about often as well. So if we promoted Rafael Montero at the end of April, instead of the middle of June, is the super two year more expensive than the 2/$20mil we spent on Bartolo Colon who we would have no need for if the super 2 status wasn’t a concern? Its so funny how people overthink something so much that they underthink everything else involved in the decision.

  • bspo1

    If Miami wins again tomorrow and Mets lose, the Mets move to 4th place.

  • Haaaaaa.

  • Waz0787

    Only logical answer to the struggle is mets decided to have their home meal schedule on the road.

  • bspo1

    and yes i know its may 2nd, I’m just saying how fast things change.

  • Waz0787

    We will get swept in miami

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Holliday, Peralta,Molina,Wainwright, Carpenter etc etc etc

    That disproves your point JB they gave all those guys big contracts at 1 point or the other

  • Super T

    This Colorado series drives home why you can’t be a “successful” team built just on pitching and defense.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Citi Field will have 2000 people in it then, count on that.

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    This is what Jessep was talking about I believe. Do you just think that? Or do you hope for that? Is Miami a better team than us? Did we win 2 of 3 from them last week?

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    you can – just not in Colorado.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Wonderful. The implosion coming.

  • George_Theodore

    should have deked them, murph

  • BronxMets

    When the chips are down hit it to Murph

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Who’s pitching????

    MANNY ACOSTA!

  • Ted Danson

    We look just horrible this series.

  • Connor O’Brien

    He was hyped as a good prospect, as he should have been. Many top prospects, despite their ratings, aren’t always predicted to be stars.

    Reading the experts, I only saw 2-3. The comparisons to Harvey were before Harvey became a top 5 pitcher in baseball.

  • Super T

    Or against the Angels, Tigers, Rockies or any other team that scores a lot of runs.

  • CJM

    Murph’s let his teammates down twice tonight now.

  • KEITH

    Turn out the lights, the party’s over!

  • bspo1

    typical Terry overuse and abuse.

  • Kid8

    I thought up a really fun saber metric stat the other night, but I had been drinking and now I can’t remember. I guess this game is a good reason to drink some more and try to remember…

  • BarnRat

    My wife wants to know why I’m wearing a bag on my head… I’m trying to think of a romantic response

  • bspo1

    can someone say slaughter house.

  • HarveyKsYou

    We would never make it in the playoffs. That’s when you play the big offensive teams.. We’d get so embarrassed.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Only 4 runs down
    Only 5 runs down
    Only 6 runs down
    Only…..oh wtf game over

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Don’t know why, but I felt like we were still in it, even down 4. But it’s out of reach now.

  • BronxMets

    Its just not true thats the only problem with your argument

  • Waz0787

    Bro please. It’s been a long night. Mets will get sweep

  • bspo1

    I love how the booth has been giving little jabs here and there at the Mets organization, about time.

  • Waz0787

    It happened last year remember davis being sent down lol

  • HarveyKsYou

    They’ve hit the ball harder in this game than we’ve hit all year it seems.

  • HarveyKsYou

    They’re not homers, that’s why.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I’m just as impressed that he didn’t then throw it away

  • prosoundz

    Rockies could go deep in the playoffs. They need to deal whatever prospects they have for one Ace starter and bullpen arm and they golden. They have some nice YOUNG players.

    Arenado
    Rosario
    Tulo
    Gonzo
    Blackmon
    Morneau

  • Super T

    Why is Torres pitching? He doing mop-up duty now too?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Well, at least we made it into May this year. That’s an improvement of sorts.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Snoop was a great guy with the bong though.

  • saturn

    who cares? now get on web gems and play for personal stats 🙂 Torres should immediately go to the doctor after the game. I mean, TC just wants everyone to get hammered. He does not want to give the mets a chance at all it seems

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Whoever is calling the pitches is an idiot

    How many outside corner FB are you gonna call???

    Might want to come inside to these hitters rather than let them ALL get the head of the bat on the ball.

    He nearly took Murphs arm off

  • Waz0787

    Dude game was over after first

  • bspo1

    terry will pitch him at all costs and he must throw more than 40 pitches each day.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    They’ve been getting steadily more outspoken as the days and weeks go by and the failure of this hitting philosophy grows ever more glaring

  • saturn

    Morneau is 32. But yes…they got some good players right there. But I would not trust Morneau not to break down or decline

  • Super T

    Wouldn’t classify Morneau as a young player.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    You’re right–the catcher should always worry about whether his fielders will be able to cope with the batted balls

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Guess theyre mad their names was on that letter lol

  • bspo1

    Sandy can’t even bring up ONE solid offensive player.

  • Waz0787

    Same age as ganderson

  • KEITH

    Agree

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    WOW your stupid

  • BarnRat

    They’re collectively hoping for a termination package.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Anyone going to see the new Spider Man movie tomorrow ? Maybe I’ll go to the later one with the guys instead of the noon one.. At least I’ll be having a good time.

  • Waz0787

    Gee take him. Wheeler take him

  • prosoundz

    Lol. He can. It’s that he won’t. Flores, Puello, Brown. To be fair he did bring up Lagares from injury.

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Come back time now

  • Peter S

    A harsh way to put it but funny nevertheless

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I was just thinking the same thing about you.. I’ll remember to use my sarcasm font next time just for you. And it’s “you’re,’ by the way. The guy who doesn’t know grammar shouldn’t try to play the stupid card

  • Selltheteam06

    What is not true? Tejada is batting 200, Flores at the very worst would bat 240. What is not true?

  • Waz0787

    Jessep is a happy man tonight

  • prosoundz

    Gee and Wheeler wouldn’t get us anyone of those guys.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Would be typical mets.

  • saturn

    therefore not young

  • Peter S

    Sarcasm dude

  • Waz0787

    Now that’s web gem

  • prosoundz

    Holy S Hit!!!!

  • George_Theodore

    wow!

  • prosoundz

    Brook Robinson reincarnated.

  • Selltheteam06

    Tejada is a below average defensive SS

  • saturn

    Rockies Schooling the mets on everything

  • HarveyKsYou

    TWO HIT DAY!! HOLY
    FUCK!

  • George_Theodore

    Grandy hits when he has the awesome protection of Satin behind him

  • Super T

    Flores back at SS tonight and already has a HR for Las Vegas.

  • bspo1

    Satin is okay, but we really need to bring up one of the guys from Vegas, they are tearing it up.

  • prosoundz

    Rockies hitters > Mets pitchers. Hopefully Mejia can show them whose boss.

  • Waz0787

    I guaranteed tomorrow all the alderson lovers will be like grandy had two hits last night. He is breaking his slump.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Best 3B arm I can remember in the last couple of decades was Ken Caminiti. Yes, he was a cheater. But he could throw

  • MetsfanInParadise

    WHO GIVES A FUCK

  • Isn’t that something we all kind of hope for?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    No theyll say we are losing because Ey wasnt playing. Lagares is getting onbase too much affecting chemistry

  • Super T

    So you didn’t like the Granderson signing at the time?

  • HarveyKsYou

    Ryan Zimmerman pre arm trouble.

  • MikeBedlam

    My guess is that we manage to score 6 more runs before the end of the game.

  • bspo1

    I hope Mejia is lights out tomorrow

  • saturn

    Satin is good for walks, but can he hit? He doesnt look like Satin from last year…I remember when everyone wanted him to be a started based on “potential” what a joke.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Time for the tease.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    TDA should pretend he is a big leaguer for once and get a hit here

  • Waz0787

    Not for four years.

  • MikeBedlam

    He’ll have to be.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Manny Machado

  • Waz0787

    I was. It’s been a long day

  • HarveyKsYou

    Ruben useless up!

  • Waz0787

    Good point lol

  • Edward

    like that one last night

  • saturn

    Game over for a while now but Tejada will just have to make sure its super over. Thats how he rolls

  • Waz0787

    Moneyball philosophy

  • billpulsipher

    lose 3of 4 or all 4 here, lose 2 of3 or all 3in MIA, yankees the following week….so this is where it all ends kids

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Morneau is not young when any other team is in town.

  • HarveyKsYou

    I hate Ruben. You know you are a terrible player when all you are good for is working the count!

  • Waz0787

    It never ends. Life of a mets fan. Pain and agony

  • MikeBedlam

    Do you have tonight’s winning lottery numbers, too?

  • greg

    Rockies lineup has 1 guy hitting under .280. We have 2 hitting over .280, with 5 hitting under .250. What I’d give for just one of their players

  • billpulsipher

    its where bein over .500 and listening to sandy lovers gloat ends

  • billpulsipher

    no but i can put the mets at under 75 wins..guaranteed

  • Tom

    It was just a vocal minority who wanted Satin to start, guys a bench bat at best.

  • Waz0787

    I am sorry. Mets burned me out tonight

  • bspo1

    4 more years! 4 more year! 4 more year of Dave Hudgens please!

  • saturn

    For TRIPLE A

  • BarnRat

    Our hitters are actually running a pretty good relay for giving Grandy some company under .200. Baton passed to Ruben.

  • MikeBedlam

    I wouldn’t let Dave Hudgens pickup my garbage from the curb for 4 years. To say nothing of him in the dugout.

  • Waz0787

    A genius thought WS is won in april. Mets aren’t going anywhere this season most logical fan knows that.

  • saturn

    Farnsworth wears glasses. Old School baseball players…screw the Lasik Surgery. Only thing I like about him…other than that DFA please

  • MikePiazza3186

    Why am I still watching this lol

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    David Wright is a mess he cant hit or even throw he nearly threw that ball into RF

  • MikeBedlam

    But if the season ended on Wednesday, we’d be in the playoffs!!!!!!

  • Waz0787

    After 5th. He loses himself

  • MikePiazza3186

    Well he’s pressing right now but give it time he will snap out of it

  • Mike Lloyd

    I Gotya Pete. No offense intended dude.

  • Waz0787

    Most of us here aren’t mets fan according to the writing lol

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    Ok fine. Mets will get sweep. They lost the first two against the Braves then won 6 of 8. No reason they can’t win 3 of the next 5 for a 4-4 road trip. Or even 2 of the next 5 for a 3-5 road trip which wouldn’t exactly be terrible. But be pessimistic if that’s your M.O.

  • MikePiazza3186

    We gotta at least try and get one win in col

  • KEITH

    I suggest growing the beard and mustache. It’s helping Blackmon.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Pressing?

    LoL…Thats Wright slang for SUCKING!

    Funny how different rules apply for guys like Grandy. No one makes excuses for him like they do David

  • BarnRat

    Channeling the immortal thoughts of Keith Hernandez: I’m going to pass on our 8 run, 9th inning rally… See ya all

  • CJM

    Why would you wear glasses when you could just as easily get surgery to fix your eyes?

  • MikeBedlam

    I’m certainly not. Just here for the bi*ches.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    The Rockies and the Mets are a study in contrasts. They show that hitting is contagious. We show that slumping is, too.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Lmfao….Sad part about that its true.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Rally!!!!

  • Mike Lloyd

    Rockies are in trouble now. Q is up…

  • saturn

    Because David is not batting below the mendoza line and had more than 2 RBIS starting this game. You cant even compare the two. You fail to understand that David Wright was meant to be a hitter, a complementary player, not the superstar. He was meant to be the .300 20 HR 90 RBI 20 SB hitter, and he was for some seasons. He has never going to be Miguel Cabrera. But since the mets never bothered to acquire any STAR players…the limelight and expectations fell on him. You will never stop your hate for David Wright. I assure you him and his 140 million could care less about your daily rambles on the internet bashing him.

  • MikePiazza3186

    And dinger is our good luck charm

  • MikeBedlam

    That really depends….does he hold the Uzi with two hands or one? It’s an important distinction.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Unblockable,

    It’s not Wheeler – it’s the organization and Zack getting caught in the middle. That’s why I didn’t want to talk about Zack himself but rather just the circumstances that brought him there which I know you and I along with so many others felt was a betrayal. Nobody undermines a team in a wildcard race with just a third of the season left to go thinking in terms of shaping a team five years down the road with all the unknowns that nobody can predict happen just to obtain a highly rated A-ball prospect – who is also part of that unknown possibility.

    Beltran was going to be gone as was KRod regardless of what their contribution was to the team or that their contributions were to become key ingredients turning the team into a legitimate contender – just as much as Reyes returning in 2012 was never going to happen because being a “priority” does not equate with an initial offer never even being made.

  • Waz0787

    Mets suck so bad there is nothing left to criticize lol

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Good. Let Barney distract the pitcher

  • saturn

    Whats wrong with glasses? They have existed for a reason… Not everyone should cater to technological advances if they dont want to.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Good swing q!! He is a baseball player!!

  • CJM

    We need to exchange this current Omar for the Omar that brought us to the playoffs in ’06.

  • MikeBedlam

    That would’ve been a HR in Colorad…..

    …oh.

  • Waz0787

    Damn man 7 more years. That’s a long time

  • George_Theodore

    dinger has police protection

  • KEITH

    I agree. I hope Lagares doesn’t catch the disease.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Nah I’ll pass on that fool minaya

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Another freakin atom ball. Even when we hit it hard it’s right at someone.

  • saturn

    That was a nice effort by Q no joke. Good swing. But they always seem to line them to the gloves of the other teams

  • Mike Lloyd

    Here I thought that was a Rockies scout.

  • MikePiazza3186

    What is going on In the crowd lol that was strange

  • George_Theodore

    LOL.. Keith’s reaction to whatever that was in the stands!

  • MikeBedlam

    Even Keith was uncomfortable. Bryan Singer must be working the camera.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Lol…Im sure he could care less but obviously YOU dont o_O

    And please spare me the crap, no one said he should be Miggy. But stop calling him a HOF and no one will compare him to future HOFers.

    Wright is SUCKING BADLY thus far. He has been regressing for years now. And he is in the 1st part of a 140M deal…we are doomed

  • George_Theodore

    that totally cracked me up

  • Waz0787

    Common guys where is enthusiasm ? I remember last road trip in Arizona. It felt so lively over here.

  • MikePiazza3186

    That was a long and hard one

  • MikeBedlam

    Game ovary.

  • CJM

    Oh another weak ground ball by Murphy? You don’t say.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    15

  • MikeBedlam

    In a very uncomfortable place.

  • Metropolitan

    remember don’t be negative..

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    15W-13L

    The Sandy Lovers arent chirping now…..

    I Wonder why???

  • MikeBedlam

    I just got the strangest phone call. It was Bud Selig. He asked me my name and wanted me to verify my MLB.TV account details. Then he thanked me for my business and started cackling.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    No dance tonight.

  • CJM

    #FireSandy
    #BringBackOmar

  • Waz0787

    Mets win they all come out.

  • MikePiazza3186

    Take it easy ok we are still doing ok we just gotta get em tomorrow

  • Waz0787

    Write a fan post

  • Metropolitan

    FIRE Sandy Alderson Wheeler friggin sucks and he has failed to trade him before he hurt his trade value

  • MikePiazza3186

    Why in the world would you wanna bring back Omar he was a disgrace

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Youre not a real Mets fan

    Yours truly
    ~Jessep aka Michael Branda

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    A disgrace that got us to the playoffs and had more winning seasons than losing seasons

    Compare that to Sandy who is going on 9 losing seasons as a GM…………………..What does that make Sandy???

    I await your response…………………………………

  • Metropolitan

    we could have had Justin Upton for Wheeler but no..now we got nothing but a back of the rotation scrub

  • sperry

    Hey keith the 1840s called they want their vest back

  • CJM

    Hey Sandy, the 1840s called, they want Colon, Valverde, and Abreu back. HEYYYOOO

  • Hotstreak

    Good News. No blown save by a mets.

    Good News no meaningless hr. by Wright.

    Good news Mets on pace to win 86.78 games and I said 86 wins (not 1986 record).

  • KEITH

    Blackmon MVP. Weiss manager of the year. Cy young. That guy that pitched yesterday. World Series Champs. Rockies. Mets take highschool pitcher with ninth pick.

  • Waz0787

    If the mets trade lagares tomorrow because he is not a “club house guy” what would be mets fan reaction?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol….ok

    LGM I guess

  • MetsfanInParadise

    It doesn’t take cursing to be obnoxious. you prove that constantly.

  • Mike Lloyd

    That’s funny. Hat tip for that chuckle sir.

  • saturn

    Yes, please enlighten us with your brilliant scouting discussions about a young 23 year old pitcher and how useless he is because he had a bad game. You know he is really polished and experienced and well he should pitch a no hitter everytime

  • MetsfanInParadise

    LGM

  • MikePiazza3186

    Lol sandy had to clean up a mess Omar on the other hand had unlimited money to spend and he blew it all and if you don’t see that sandy situation is different you must be pretty stupid

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I’ll tell you after I win the lottery, which is just as likely

  • Waz0787

    That’s right metropolitan speak your mind. I for one enjoy reading your comments. I have known you from metsblog and knicksblog. You tell the truth and the fact. Keep writing your honest opinions

  • Waz0787

    Let’s go mets.

  • saturn

    I never said he was HOF, but you cant deny his place on the Mets all time list when hes broken most of the record he has. You hate him because according to you he cant perform. According to you he should carry the team all by himself, and win the world series. Pitch, catch, whatever he has to do. We are doomed to what? A declining player? So are many teams. The tigers…that new deal they made with Miguel Cabrera is a deal with the devil and will hamper them for a long time. It was unnecessary.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    LGM

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Omars leftovers
    -Mejia 3.49ERA
    -Niese 2.88ERA
    -Gee 2.20ERA

    Sandys sandpit
    -FartoloColon 5.65ERA
    -WildWheels 5.13ERA

    Just saying………………

    THANKS OMAR

  • Mike Lloyd

    Projectile vomiting…

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Why are you taking him seriously?

  • Metropolitan

    but seriously all these pitchers the Mets got who are already up or not that far away are not going to pan out,tough decisions have to be made and it is like Alderson is too scared or just too stubborn to make a move to move forward

  • Waz0787

    This site is a thing of beauty when the mets lose.

  • Waz0787

    Wheeler and gee should be gone. If there us, a market for niese trade him as well. We could fill multiple positions alderson

  • HarveyKsYou

    Wild wheels! That’s a classic! Funny.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Nope youre the stupid one overlooking Sandys 9 straight losing seasons as a GM. You are aware he wasnt with the Mets for 9yrs right???

    So………………………..

  • Terry

    Anyone ripping on Wheeler didn’t watch the game. The first inning was as bad luck as I’ve seen for a pitcher. The Rockies had one good hit and scored four runs. If we had a second baseman with any range, the first batter is an out and not a single. Changes the whole inning. Wheeler will be fine. He’s still young and still learning. He’s no Harvey but he will be good. HE is the least of this team’s problems.

  • Waz0787

    Our lineup lacks major league talents.

  • Metropolitan

    yes this sort of move is what needs to be done…I mean these guys can’t even do anything at Coors friggin field for christ sake.

    AAlderson has hurt Wheelers trade vaule though waiting and waiting

  • MetsfanInParadise

    The fixation with Omar is old, but I actually agree with you on Alderson. He’s a bean counter, not a baseball man. He was brought in to put their financial house in order and he’s done. that. Now it’s time to let the baseball men run the show. This hitting philosophy is a perfect example. It may be logical but it’s not realistic. Not all players have the eye or discipline to wait for those perfect strikes and some actually hit bad balls better. They should be identifying the players’ strengths and using them. And our scouting sucks too. Look at how quickly teams like the Marlins and Braves rebuild, and it looks like we’re standing still. Oakland. Cleveland. Hudgens has to go and Collins should be running the minor league system. Alderson doesn’t have the baseball savvy to put the right people in the right places.

  • Waz0787

    I am with you sooner the better. Trade from our pitching depths to get us some major league hitters

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    #PutTheChampagneBackOnIce in a CRYOGENICS CHAMBER next to Ted Williams frozen head

    We wont be needing that for a looooooooooooooooooong time

  • Destry

    Yeah because giving up a few runs in the thin air of Coors Field means season over. You should probably just stop watching now.

  • Metropolitan

    could this be Gen K 2.0???

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Seems like the Rockies pitchers were just fine pitching in that thin air???

    Maybe there was global warming everytime we came to bat???

  • KennyandtheMets

    Hey CJM. Just curious. Are we still a playoff team?

  • Destry

    Wasn’t Niese drafted by Steve Phillips and signed to a below market extension by Sandy Alderson? Do you want Minaya back or something? You realize he hasn’t exactly turned down GM jobs left and right. He had a ton of young talent available to him with an unlimited payroll. He ran this franchise into the ground.

  • Waz0787

    U mad bro?

  • Waz0787

    Put wheeler in the pen

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LOL…I loved the 15-11 translate to 90 wins!!!!!!

    YEAH!!! Sandy was right lol

  • Metropolitan

    when is Alderson going to make a big impact trade for a bat???????

  • RyanF55

    Coors Field round 2…ouch

  • Destry

    I wonder if playing half their games in Coors Field has anything to do with it?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Misconception is Minaya ran the team into the ground…The truth is Omar Minaya didnt have any dealings with Bernie Madoff it was the Wilpons and Katz family so lets be clear of whos mess Sandy was cleaning up.

    Also what kind of cleanup job is it when you replace Santana and Bays contract with Wright and Granderson(2 older players at the time they signed)???

    And no Niese was a Omar Minaya draft pick from 2005.

    FYI Sandy wasnt exactly getting any offers either for YEARS which is why he was sent to DR. Alderson actually tried to REHIRE OMAR but Omar declined. Shows you that Minaya wasnt the cause of the Mets downfall

  • Destry

    How much would you like to wager on it?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Nope, COLLIN COWGILL

    Bwahahahahahahaha

  • MetsfanInParadise

    The fixation with Omar is old, but I actually agree with you on Alderson. He’s a bean counter, not a baseball man. He was brought in to put their financial house in order and he’s done. that. Now it’s time to let the baseball men run the show. This hitting philosophy is a perfect example. It may be logical but it’s not realistic. Not all players have the eye or discipline to wait for those perfect strikes and some actually hit bad balls better. They should be identifying the players’ strengths and using them. And our scouting sucks too. Look at how quickly teams like the Marlins and Braves rebuild, and it looks like we’re standing still. Oakland. Cleveland. Hudgens has to go and Collins should be running the minor league system. Alderson doesn’t have the baseball savvy to put the right people in the right places

  • billpulsipher

    I thought Wheeler was the real deal but the more I watch him, hes nothing more than a thrower, and there is a million Zack Wheelers around….this guy is turning out to be a major disappointment…good job by sandy not trading him for Upton

  • mets4lyfe

    Jon Niese was drafted during the Minaya regime in 2005. Moreover, most things that are said about Minaya are more myth than reality. He didn’t leave the team in “shambles” as most people would like to think. Minaya left Sandy Alderson with Jose Reyes, Angel Pagan, Carlos Beltran, David Wright, Ike Davis, Jason Bay, Josh Thole, and Murphy. Moreover, the lack of high-ceiling MLB ready prospects wasn’t Minaya’s fault. Obviously he could’ve done a better job with the farm, but it wasn’t his fault that he was pressured to be in a ‘win-now’ mode by his superiors.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Miggy Cabreras decline will be Wrights prime numbers.

    Wrights decline will be Tejadas numbers.

    Thats the difference.

    And I dont hate or dislike Wright at all I just think he is soooooooo overhyped

  • Destry

    I didn’t realize that we were the only team that didn’t sign Jose Abreu. How did that work exactly ALex. It was just us and the White Sox? We were the only two teams that were allowed to sign him?

  • HarveyKsYou

    John Maine was more dominant when he was on.

  • Destry

    U wish. Keeping trying troll.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I haven’t given up on Wheeler yet but I will say it’s easier to trade an expiring contract that you’re not counting on for the future for a prospect than to evaluate a talent-for-talent trade. RA Dickey-for prospects. Byrd and Buck-for prospects. This front office hasn’t proven to be skilled enough talent evaluators

  • mets4lyfe

    I didn’t watch the game; can someone give me a rundown of Wheeler’s outing? Don’t sugarcoat anything. Thanks.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Why don’t you go back to talking about Sandy and Omar and not about the other commenters? It’s much more interesting

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    HE SUCKED BIG TIME….

    GAME WAS OVER IN THE 2ND INNING

    THANKS TO WILDWHEELS

  • Destry

    Yep. That’s because you sign & develop pitchers that can pitch in your home park. How did our starters look at home, Minaya sniffer?

  • MetsfanInParadise

    he didn’t have it and the Rockies are hot. They’re hitting everything, hard, and not right at people the way we do. When we hit it hard, that is. I’m going to hit it hard right now.

  • Destry

    Who is in our lineup? Did you watch the game?

  • Destry

    What was our record with those players when Minaya got fired?

  • mets4lyfe

    I’m not too optimistic about Wheeler improving his command to a point where he can be a top 10 or 15 pitcher in baseball.

    I wouldn’t be too disappointed with an A.J Burnett 2.0.

  • Waz0787

    Maine was pretty good

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Ervin Santana?

  • Destry

    What was our record Minaya’s last year with that $140 mil payroll? I seem to forget.

  • Waz0787

    He is below burnett

  • Waz0787

    Chris young the great was alderson choice

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    NEWSFLASH!!!

    Go check out those pitchers on Colorado that shut us down. They arent good at home hell Nicasio is terrible DeLaRosa is decent at best after the injuries.

    Try getting to know players past philadelphia..They play baseball in the Mid West and West you know

  • mets4lyfe

    Reyes only played 133 games coming back from hamstring surgery in 2010, Beltran played only 64 games in 2010, Murphy missed all of 2010, Bay only played 95 games because of concussion, etc.

    Quick question, did you watch the Mets in 2010?

    EDIT: I’m not sure there’s much to complain about regarding the previous years. The Mets were decimated with injuries in 2009 and they had a good run from 2006-2008. It’s just unfortunate the players didn’t perform well enough during the stretch run.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Well, I’m off to the beach in the AM. Night. LGM

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I didnt want to ruin his night completely lol

  • HarveyKsYou

    That’s a number 3, a four for some years. He would be a bust then:/

  • Waz0787

    Hit up jessep plan the parade for us. Keep us updated lgm

  • Destry

    Why did the other 28 teams pass on him Alex?

  • HarveyKsYou

    That marlins game he was like Matt Harvey.

  • mets4lyfe

    Overall career wise

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Someone loves SandySand up there shorts lol

    You should get really wasted and go swimming in the deepest part of the water.

    Sleep tight
    LGM

  • Destry

    Newflash. Our pitchers aren’t going to shut out St L for an entire series each time, but we did last week. Don’t understand why you want the Mets to lose. Can you answer that question?

  • mets4lyfe

    Ervin had solid command of the strike-zone in his early days. He wasn’t a surgeon, but he threw strikes consistently. Always kept his BB/9 in the low 3s.

  • Destry

    Laugh all you want at Steve Phillips but he is only reason Minaya had any success what so ever. Otherwise we would’ve had $140 mil payroll without Wright and Reyes

  • Destry

    If he had $140 mil to spend he would.

  • Destry

    Did you just call yourself a loser? or you aren’t a Mets fan? Which is it?

  • Joey D.

    Hi Connor,

    The Mets were not hyping him as a good prospect – they were touting Wheeler as going to be a top staple in the rotation for many years to come. In addition, this has nothing to do with with whatever the “experts” might predict. “Experts” do not create hype like “super Tuesday”.

    The problem also is reflective in the many independent articles lauding Sandy for acquiring a prospect the caliber of Wheeler for a rental, concluding the Mets were heading nowhere as the attached implies. Just like those outside the organization, to justify the trade, the Mets had to both hype Wheeler and the team not having a realistic chance of winning the wildcard that season for the organization had even a more important reason to do so – to downplay the financial circumstances that we know has been dictating their moves.
    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2012/12/19/3778812/sandy-alderson-master-negotiator

  • CJM

    Yes.

  • mr. belvedere

    why are so many Mets “fans” happy that we lost two straight?

  • KennyandtheMets

    According to my calculations, we rank 7th in the NL right now. Isn’t it the top 6 teams that get in?

  • Destry

    Are you are Mets Fan?

  • Destry

    Under the guidance of Steve Phillips.

  • Destry

    Its kinda strange isn’t it? Im quite sure they aren’t Mets fans. Just trolls posing. Ignore them and they will go away. I fell into the trap of giving them attention. Why would anyone be happy that their team lost, and be mad when we were off to a good start.

  • Destry

    Hey. Whats your deal? Whats your agenda here? Why are you happy when we lose, and mad when we are winning? Whats up with that? Are you some punk kid hiding behind your dads computer screen trying to get attention? Your behavior is awkward to say the least. Whats your angle dude?

  • Destry

    What is the deal with you, Leroy, unblockable & WAZ? What are you doing? Why are you happy when we lose? What are you trying to accomplish? Each of your behavior screams everything but that of a Mets Fan. Whats going on? Very strange.

  • Destry

    One question. Why are you happy when we lose?

  • Erin_II

    Dude, you just really need to tone it down with the constant inane, annoying simpleton garbage. If you feel like he sucks, try harder to convey it in a more articulate manner. Explain what you have seen to shape your opinion. Nobody wants to hear it all the time…. So and so sucks, OR posting BALLGAME!!! after the other team scores first.
    If that is the way that you are going to continue to post, you best be prepared for the negative feedback you will continue to earn.

    Dude, just grow up.

  • RyanF55

    You get more joy when the Mets fail than succeed. You’re a joke of a Met fan. I want to punch Sandy and the Wilpons directly in the face, but I don’t get JOY out of the team getting worked. You literally like it when they lose and come on here to chastise anyone who roots for the teams success. Try rooting for the team, it’s f-ing May 3rd and were above .500…but yeah, the season is surely over . We can also close the book on Wheelers career now right?

  • jason bay

    Peralta is the only FA there Leroy and I think any team that had Molina, Holliday, Wainwright on it would have extended them too.

    The Cards have taken back 18 extra drat picks in recent years by offering arbitration to departing FA’s.

  • BronxMets

    no hes not and he is better then Reyes was/is when he is on the field.

  • joeyd1966

    Isn’t it amazing how Met fans (alleged) are elated when their team loses and at the same time attack other poster’s here who get axcited when the team is playing well. They hate the GM with such a passion that they enjoy night’s like last night when one of his prime acquisitions gets shelled. At the end of the season last year Alice68 said he was disappointed that they did not lose the 100 games he predicted.

  • Macdaddy

    Here is reality…which is a physics question and application. Air composition is essentially the same from sea level to higher altitudes, the difference is obviously pressure and density. Since air density is about 18% less in Denver than sea level the distance a baseball travels tends to be about 10% less at sea level than at altitude in Coors field. Obviously other metrics come into play beyond air density, such at temperature, humidity, velocity of pitch, centering of impact, bat speed, wind speed and what is called the parabolic flight of the ball. Nonetheless, if we had all those variables plugged in one could quantify with considerable accuracy how much further a ball struck in Coors would travel than at Citi Field. In any event, a good metric is to use the 6% to 10% variance factor for Coors and thus in any struck ball you will typically see that the distance quantified in Coors is about 6% to 10% further than at see level. Just a basic back of the napkin approach.

    Don’t get me wrong a 400 foot shot is a shot in any park…but in Coors you have to take all HR’s distances with a grain of salt. Yesterday game time had the temp at about 60 degrees and by the end of the game they were down in the 50’s…wind was gusting up to 24 mph…and it was blowing out last night. At the end of the day…I think at best in Citi it was a 400 foot shot or less in Citi…

  • Selltheteam06

    lol ok then

  • Peter S

    None taken…sorry for the dude comment, I was doing some drinking at the time lol.

  • Mike Lloyd

    You were fine-dude is fine. Lol. I read my conment, it came off as snarky Pete-so it’s I who apologize.

  • Peter S

    No big…we have bigger problems now lol