MMO Game Recap: Mets 5, Rockies 1

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The Mets (16-14) beat the Rockies (19-14) by a score of 5-1 on Sunday afternoon in Colorado to salvage the final game of their four-game series.

Dillon Gee got the start for the Mets and was once again solid, tossing six-plus scoreless innings while striking out 5 and allowing only 6 hits and a walk. Gee also came somewhat close to being the first Mets pitcher to get a hit this season, but it was not in the cards…

The Mets got off to a quick start in the first inning, continuing the series-long patter of early fireworks. Juan Lagares got things started (of course) with a single and Daniel Murphy followed him up with a base hit of his own. After David Wright struck out, Curtis Granderson— who has shown signs of being an actual Major League Baseball Player lately— drove in Lagares with New York’s third hit of the inning.

Of course, the Mets still had to do something Mets-esque before the inning was over. Chris Young hit a shallow fly ball out to left and Daniel Murphy faked a break for home when the ball was caught. The throw from left was cut off and Murphy— who seemed to momentarily forget where he was, where he was from, and who he worked for— was thrown out trying to get back to the bag.

The Mets added another pair of runs in the 3rd inning. Murphy worked a walk and Wright cracked a deep double to center to chase him home. Chris Young hit another double to score David and set the Mets up for a huge inning, but Travis d’Arnaud— who had a rough evening— hit into a double play to hold New York to 2.

The Mets came right back for more in the next inning. Juan Lagares “doubled” on a ball that was misplayed by Corey Dickerson, and Murph doubled him home to make it 4-0. New York scored one more time in the 7th when CY walked and hustled around to score from first on Lucas Duda‘s double.

Dillon Gee ran into some trouble in the bottom of the 7th when Michael McKenry and Dickerson led off the inning with singles, and was pulled for Carlos Torres. Torres did his job, getting a groundout and a strikeout before departing for Scott Rice, who retired the lefty Charlie Blackmon to end the inning and close the book on Gee.

The Rockies got a run in the 9th when Justin Morneau greeted Jeurys Familia with a homer to right, but Familia retired the next 3 hitters to end the game and avoid the sweep.

Curtis - Granderson

I wrote a few days ago that Curtis Granderson had been showing some signs of turning it around lately. After a very solid series in Colorado for The Truest New Yorker Of Them All, there seems to be some hope that Grandy is ready to start earning that salary.

Reports surfaced yesterday that the Mets were ready to commit to Juan Lagares as their everyday center fielder. The next day, Eric Young allegedly has a freak injury in the batting cage, away from all the cameras. Coincidence? I think n– actually, yeah, that probably is a coincidence. But anyway, while I hope for EY to make a quick recovery, Lagares has just been amazing so far and the Mets need him on the field. Hopefully, the 3 remaining outfielders will stay healthy and productive so that Eric can take his time.

The 3rd outfielder, of course, is Chris Young, who also had a terrific series this week and has been quite productive of late. Chris was an All-Star a few years ago, so it shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to see him performing well. But, since the Mets signed him as a free agent, it’s obviously a huge surprise to see him performing well…

Gee has been rock-solid all year, with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions. When the Rockies got 2 men on to lead off the 7th, I was a bit worried that the Mets had left Dillon in for too long once again. Fortunately, Terry Collins realized that Gee had run out of steam and went to the bullpen, and the relievers were able to get out of the gym and preserve a very solid outing for Gee. I was actually a bit surprised that Gee didn’t start to crumble in the 6th, given his pitch count, but maybe his small apparent increase in stamina is an indication that he is getting into mid-season form (from a conditioning standpoint).

The Mets did a solid job with the bats in this series, and they should have come away with at least split, but a collapse on Saturday night and some pretty shaky starting pitching throughout the first 3 games of the series has forced us to settle for a 3-1 defeat in Colorado. Still, if you’re going to get only 1 win in a series, it’s best to have it be the final game to give you some momentum to take into your next matchup.

Enjoy the rest of your night, Mets fans. I’m off to watch the Rangers’ playoff game, and I’ll spend much of the game imagining how excited I will be when, one day, our Mets are back on the playoff stage.

Up next: The Mets will fly to Miami to begin a 3 game series with the Marlins. Jon Niese (2-2, 2.20 ERA) will face off against Nathan Eovaldi (2-1, 2.58 ERA) tomorrow night at 7:10 PM.

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  • Bartolololol

    The NL East is the most competitive division in baseball so far and it’s not even close. The NL East is the only division in baseball to have ALL five teams with a .500 record or better. In fact, all other divisions in major league baseball have at least two teams that are below .500. It will be interesting to see how this works out over the next few weeks.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Awful, pretty nightmare-ish series but at least they avoided the sweep. Winning 2 of 3 in this upcoming @ the Marlins series would be big for this team. I’d take a 4-4 road trip. Lagares, Murphy, Duda, and CY overall look pretty solid. Once Wright and Granderson come around to being themselves, the offense could become somewhat decent as the season progresses, believe it or not.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    The 2 best hitters on this team
    Juan Lagares
    Chris B.Young

    Came up big again today plus another poor outing by Travis d’arnaud leaving 6 men on base. All that hype he received compared to the silent arrival of Lagares.

  • In the 1st inning of game 2, I decided I’d be fine with a 3-1 series. We got it.

  • Ian Nolan

    I have to say I’m becoming more and more confident in Chris Young each day….hopefully that’s not a jinx but if he and Grandy can get going here we may have something in the OF going forward.

    Also, if Murphy played in that park all year I honestly think he’d hit .320 or higher…

    Finally, I’ll probably catch heat for this but David Wright needs to start showing some power. It’s gotten to the point with him where I don’t even think he may pop one out. I know Citi Field took away his RCF pop, but we cannot afford for him to become some 15 home run a year guy at this point in his contract. I just feel like he’s gotten a pass due to Grandy’s struggles…I mean D’Arnaud has 2 homers…Travis Wood, the pitcher for the Cubs has 3 I believe.

  • Xavier 22

    Yeah but how ’bout the Chris Young? Good pick up by Sandy huh?

  • AlexHZ

    Wilmer flores with a 3run shot

    Edit: while playing ss

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Ive always been Chris Youngs biggest supporter here. I was calling for him before the Mets signed him and got killed for it.

    So yes good signing by him. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then 😉

  • KMO82

    Be interesting to see now that Flores is starting to heat up with the bat if the Mets even entertain the idea of having him play SS.

  • CJM

    Duda continues to be a stud at the plate. .808 OPS this season.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Didn’t he hit one earlier.. Or is this what you’re alluding to?

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Sure I’d like more home runs from him too, but I’m not gonna complain if David Wright ends up hitting just 15 home runs — provided he has a great OBP and hits lots of doubles.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    WILMER FLORES > A-Rod(With juice)
    WILMER FLORES > Miggy Cabrera
    WILMER FLORES > Honus Wagner
    WILMER FLORES > Eddie Mathews
    WILMER FLORES > Mike Schmidt

  • Bail4Nails

    I was at a Communion party at a Restaurant, and I had to sneak to the bar to catch glimpses of the game. How did Familia look today? I’m secretly hoping he earns the Closer role (unless by some miracle Mejia, DeGrom or Montero get a shot).
    Anyway, how did Familia look?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Duda stud at the plate? lol…Iwouldnt call what he’s doing being a stud at the plate.

    STUD? NO.
    GOOD? YES

    Stud is what Jose Abreu and Pujols is doing right now

  • AlexHZ

    Thats what im alluding to. 2hrs last night, 1 today. Hes not gonna be wasted another whole year in aaa, bet on that

  • reality check

    Flores is not now, never will be a MLB shortstop. The club has to decide.either sign and keep Murphy long term and include Flores in a package, or trade Murphy and move Flores into second base. Thats the only way barring a injury he plays any real time for us

  • KennyandtheMets

    Familia was great. He attacked the zone with a 97/98 mph fastball and a nasty hook. He pitched the 8th and 9th and dominated 6 of 7 hitters. Morneau took him deep on a slider that humg down and in. Otherwise, he was awesome!!

  • AlexHZ

    What makes you think any of those 3 can handle it? If it was that easy every team would have a closer with 35+ saves. Its not easy to be put into that situation especially if youre a rookie. If youre gonna use degrom or montero its gotta be middle innings.

  • Nmartz

    The braves are not that Braves.. They have lost 6 games in a row.. Those are good news.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I posted yesterday that Murphy could hit 330+ in that park.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments
  • oltl

    Forget defense. This over rated fellow has holes all over his swing. He is the very familiar AAAA player. Anyone in MLB afraid to face Flores? Um, no.

  • AlexHZ

    Where do you and the guy below get this shit. Just making stuff up lol. Crazy

  • TheMetsMachine

    Based on your statement about Flores being a AAAA player, I’m going to assume that you have no idea what the term “AAAA” player means. Just saying, you need to brush up on baseball terms.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Be fair. d’Arnaud hit two bullets his first two times up today. They just found gloves.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Lagares has been our best player this season. CY is really showing signs of a comeback season.

  • Bail4Nails

    Mejia, like Familia, has Nasty Stuff. I consider that Important for Closer. I like a Closer that sort of scares the other team. As for DeGrom and Montero, I see their Control as an attribute for Closer. How many times do our “Closers” get in trouble by Walking the Leadoff Hitter. The less walks the better for a Closer.
    You are right about having the Guts to Close. But, you will have no idea whether any Pitcher has the intestinal fortitude to handle Closing, until you put him in that Situation and see how he handles it.

  • BarnRat

    Very satisfying to see hitting and pitching show up at the park for the same game! Nice win.
    So I guess Wheeler had our 2nd best start of the series?? (Can’t believe I’m typing that after Friday…)

  • Bail4Nails

    Awesome, great to hear. I think with Familia, it’s all about confidence. I hope he’s gaining it now.

  • Macdaddy

    At various points in the season you have must win games. Today was such a game, for a host of reasons. Yes some have noted that the Mets dropped 3 of 4 in this series and you certainly can’t make that a habit but at the same time you do need to recognize the value of a win, even if said win is avoiding a sweep. You can’t win a championship in April and May but you sure as heck can lose them in those months.

    The real value of this win is if the Mets follow it up with a win on Monday. I have the sense that this game gave the team a boost and I expect Niese to rise to the occasion on Monday and pitch very well. In fact I also expect the Mets to also have a very productive game offensively with David having an HR and driving in 3 runs.

  • Ian Nolan

    Biggest thing is he drives in runs but for the money he’s making over the next 6 years he needs to do more than hit 15 homers for me unless he’s knocking in 100 runs and hitting close to .300

  • mad met

    Murphy

  • KennyandtheMets

    He definitely has the stuff. Confidence or command or both, is all he needs.

  • Macdaddy

    Making statements like…he has holes all over his swing…is a very uninformed statement and to provide further evidence…it was used incorrectly. A player can have “A hole in his swing” but not “Holes”. I just get tired of people making quasi informed statements or at worse attempting analytics and yet they don’t have a damn clue about what they are talking about.

  • MikeyT

    Heck of a job by gee! Looked like an ace out there shutting down that lineup and ending a losing streak!!

  • derek murphy

    At the end of last season I thought the mets should have sold high on gee n Murphy. Not that I don’t love the 2 of them but I ddnt think Niese would continue on such a high level n figured murph would get better but mets wouldn’t want to pay. They can sign both guys to reasonable extensions n should do so now.

  • CJM

    So you went from thinking they should trade these guys to thinking they should lock them in longer-term?

  • KennyandtheMets

    Even the HR by Morneau HR was an ugly swing. He was off balance and let go with one hand. He hooked it down the line and just made it over the wall. It wouldn’t have made the warning track at Citi Field.

  • Macdaddy

    At this point in his career and maturation as a relief pitcher, building up to a closer, I would much prefer him playing a set up role in the al la Mariano Rivera fashion in his early days as the set up guy for John Wetteland, And here is why…despite Mo having one pitch…being cast in the set up role allowed him to work two innings usually which allowed him to build his stamina and also learn how to control his emotions. Dropping Familia right into the closer role might backfire and today was a good step forward in allowing him to learn how to pitch and not just gas balls up to the plate as a closer.

  • Jack

    Can’t wait until next season with Harvey, Syndergaard, Wheeler, Gee, and Niese. Im not giving up on Mejia though and Montero could be a young stud with his stellar command. Gee and Nieses trade value is really high but they are both doing amazing so far It’ll be interesting on how the mets go with their good problem regarding pitching. Should you keep or trade some proven veterans or young pitchers for some bats?

  • Jack

    Is anyone considered about Wheeler’s ability to command his pitches in the strike zone and to pitch deep into games?

  • Julian

    We all understand that his defense is not even close to gold-glove quality and is probably below-average in the majors. That being said, before his ankle injury last season he was hitting very well. I can almost guarantee that his offensive production will surpass Tejada’s in his first ten AB’s. I love the Mets, and I’m sure you do as well. What good is it to not be open to options that will possibly benefit our favorite team?

  • amarksupreme

    yeah, Familia did look sharp – Im hoping he can be the so-called closer, as long as the control stays intact

  • Macdaddy

    Travis has needed to work on seeing the ball to the bat…and frankly I think evidence of such has been him making good contact. Travis is an athletic guy and I have said this in the past regarding his at bat approaches…he had seemed to be pulling off the ball and not really watching it to the bat. When a guy has very good hands, which is typical of a catcher, they can become very handsy with their swings and thus pull off and not look the ball all the way the bat. You can get away with this in A, AA and AAA ball where most pitchers don’t have dominating movement on their pitches and tend to make more mistakes…thus being handsy and pulling off the ball can be hidden because the player is making good contact but again when you get to the MLB late movement and seeing guys who don’t make many mistakes and more importantly can get you out on the pitch they want you to swing at is the big issue for most players and in particular Travis. He is clearly working on that and if he keeps making solid contact I think he will start to get a few more hits and thus gain confidence.

  • Joanie Yan

    100% correct. Murphy is getting too expensive and Flores is his replacement. This will not solve their SS problem.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Well said.

  • BarnRat

    They worked a trade for Murph pretty hard in the off-season and couldn’t get the value they thought he warranted. An intereting problem with Murph. They don’t want him at what he will cost next season given that they have Flores, but everyone else knows that too…

  • RyanF55

    Move over Freeman, Goldschmidt. Lagares for MVP!!!

  • Macdaddy

    No…not remotely. The worse thing you can do is over analyze young pitchers and over instruct. The game at Coors goes into the can and you don’t even waste your time looking at it or analyzing what he did wrong. Wheeler is fine and as he gets more innings under his belt and develops a routine the better he will pitch. Patience is a virtue…

  • reality check

    True, it won’t. I think we should see if Oakland or Arizona wanna upgrade,not Didi though. We have nice trade chips

  • Macdaddy

    Anyone that puts Gee on the trade block would be a damn fool at this point.

  • Macdaddy

    Now you’re stealing my tag lines…hahaha.

  • derek murphy

    Depends on how they are going to allocate there money. Last year I said they should both be extended. The contracts they would get wouldn’t hurt there trade value if anything it would only increase. Murphy I thought could have had 2 years brought out and 2 added for 7 or 8 million. When your going to stroke u gota do it. Now if they extend murph he will probably want 5 years n 60 million. So do I wang to extend? Maybe. If the numbers reasonable. However, if we’re not going to spend its still worth extending these guys before trading. Gee is a whole different story I thought he was playing way above his head now I think maybe he is that good.

  • Macdaddy

    hahaha…so now you think Gee is that good…hahaha.

  • Metstheory22

    Should have spit the series. I think Mejia has good stuff, not sure still if it’s as a starter.

  • Jack

    I guess it’s safe to say Grandy wont be Bay 2.0

  • reality check

    Yeah!

  • CJM

    Really?

  • RyanF55

    Honus Wagner hahaha

  • Macdaddy

    hahaha…fair enough.

  • BarnRat

    Man, he’s hitting like .173. It’s early, so let’s avoid burying him, but congratulating him????

  • Jack

    I wonder if the Mets are in contention in June and Super Two passed if they will trade Colon so they can slot Syndergaard. It’ll be interesting how Sandy goes with this.

  • Macdaddy

    Well thank you Kenny…

  • Jack

    Im saying that he wont be bay but i don’t think he will hit 25 homers this season

  • Macdaddy

    That hit is a prime example of a Coors field HR…

  • BarnRat

    Yeah, OK, but talk about someone where the jury is still really out…

  • Macdaddy

    Which is why you plug him into a set up role and let him get near the fire but not in the fire. As a closer…you’re always in the fire.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Absolutely. It was a can of corn in most ball parks.

  • Macdaddy

    Even if the Mets are at .500 or less…I don’t see them moving Colon and rushing Thor to the parent club. A measured approach and…as terrible as this might sound…but making guys really fight/compete for a slot on the parent club is a good thing. The more the Mets have winning farm teams the better off they are going to be and more importantly the more prepared mentally these players will be for when the due come to the bigs. My bet…Noah will be a late season call up and might not even see the bigs if the rotation does well and they don’t have any injuries.

  • RyanF55

    I was in Denver for the weekend series….Coors Field is a beautiful stadium. I believe the same architects that designed Citi designed Coors as well and it has a very similar rotunda and exposed steel look. Of course the games I went to the Mets played absolutely horrendous, so it was fitting! The city was a good time as well, I’d recommend a trip:

  • Metfan9876

    It’s almost a guarentee that someone will either be traded or get hurt. Spots open up every year on just about every team in baseball.

  • Waz0787

    Good riddance mets won a game. After getting beatdown every way possible they won.

  • peter

    We need a closer, Mejia would fit perfect there, he has the mentality and stuff to succeed. Dice K should be fine in the rotation. It is a tough call man, but he could be Neftali Feliz like. He looks like he could be a to starter as well. The thing is he wants to start and seems adamant about that. With Montero and Degrom coming up as starters and Dice K still around, if Mejia moves to the pen then DIce K can stay in a long relief roll, Montero can come up into the rotation and Mejia can get a shot at closing. Not in the bullpen finding his way, throw him right into the closers roll. They can cut Valverde and Farnswarth and bring up Montero and Black. In my opinion this is not a bad move but Mejia would have to accept it.

  • BarnRat

    Why no? I cant believe they want Murphy at 10X the salary of Flores next year. I like Murph, but I’m a realist about the Mets abysmal financial situation.

  • yeah. We should wait til he’s terrible to trade him. That is the wisest course of action. Sell low I always say

  • KennyandtheMets

    Any news on why Lagares was flexing his leg a lot today? I would play it safe with him tomorrow. We face a RH pitcher in Muami.

    EY LF (Abreu, if EY isn’t ready)
    Murphy 2B
    Wright 3B
    Grandy RF
    CY CF
    Duda 1B
    d’Arnaud C
    Q SS (sick of Tejada).

    Don’t want Lagares to reinjure the hammy. We can’t afford to lose him for an extended period.

  • Macdaddy

    Look the guy fractured his left forearm and being that he is a left handed batter that is his power arm. Hitting is actually a push versus a pull…meaning your strength comes from the top hand. Most players who have breaks in the forearm or wrist tend to struggle when the come back and it takes time to get comfortable with your mechanics and how you drive through the hitting zone with your power arm. If he starts making consistent contact and is finishing his swings (meaning both hands are on the bat with extension) then I would say his breakout point will come towards the end of May. As it gets hot and he gets more AB’s under his belt, without any pain…then the pop and driving the ball will come back…IMO.

  • KennyandtheMets

    If Mejia wants to stay in the rotation, he will need to avoid implosions like yesterday. With his injury history, he might be destined for late inning relief anyway.

  • Macdaddy

    True but patterns emerge with teams and at this point…not jinxing the Mets but the pitching seems to be into establishing a rhythm. Honestly, I don’t see anything with this cast of pitchers that tells me that any of them are or could break down. Yes shiznet can happen but watching how these guys have been working, sans maybe Mejia and Niese…I see nothing to have any concerns…including those two guys. I think Mets fans will be pleasantly surprised with the durability and stability of the Mets starters this season…again IMO.

  • BarnRat

    I hate to bail on Mejia as a starter given how great he is when he’s good. Patience is still the right path here, especially since consensus view seems to be that deGrom is a quality BP arm. If deGrom is really a ML starter, then we have a more complicated (but ultimately more attractive) situation.

  • At least Duda has performed well enough to quiet the Flores or Murph to first silliness. That said, one of them have got to go. It isn’t doing us much good to have both Murph and Wilmer in the organization. If Flores can start hitting consistently, we’re gonna have to consider moving one of them

  • willymayshayes

    Look, the kid has a bat that I can’t wait to see up here. BUT, HE IS NOT A SS.

    I’d love to see him playing 3B, but Wright’s there….

    If I could sell Duda for something decent, I put Flores at 1B.

  • kbusch22

    I went into the series expecting the Mets to drop 3 of 4 since the Rockies have had the Mets’ number in recent years…so overall the series went about how I expected. Of course last night was a total heartbreaker and it would have been great to have a split…but at least it’s not a sweep.

    Gotta win this Miami series. LGM.

  • whoa – the Rays waived Heath Bell today. How far he’s fallen… need a job, old friend?

  • KennyandtheMets

    I think Murphy will be traded before the deadline this year. I doubt that our FO will want to pay him next year. I wonder if a team like the Rockies would give us some talent back for him. He fits Coors Field perfectly. I think he could hit 330+ for them.

  • Pablo Purchese

    Dont even think about it

  • hehe too late. He really has been terrible lately though

  • as much as I like Murph’s intensity and his ability to make contact, the dude is a fecking bonehead. Seems like a great teammate and all that good stuff but he just makes too many stupid plays

  • KennyandtheMets

    Give him a shot. What do we have to lose? Valverde and Farnsworth are awful.

  • calamityfrancis

    Good win. Keeps our heads about .500 water and some good karma heading into the next series. LGM!

  • Macdaddy

    He’s young and he got bit by the Coors field bug…nothing more or less. He simply left too many pitches up in the strike zone and because of the less dense air breaking pitches will have less movement…thus his pitches flattened out a bit and that is death. Once the weather warms up and you get those humid evening or hot days…he is going to be a nightmare to hitters. It’s all about getting ahead of hitters and in the 23 batters he faced only 10 were first pitch strikes…again an outing that was not his typical as his game against the Cards had him at 14 of the 26 batters he faced. Plus he was throwing strikes 61% of the time against the Cards and only 58% against the Rockies…which again shows he was having some control issues which happens on any breaking pitches.

  • KennyandtheMets

    He really does.

  • Rocky Thompson

    I know the designers of Citi Field also designed Safeco Field in Seattle. Not sure about Coors.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Mejia imploded the last game he pitched also. Not just at Coors yesterday.

  • Bobby O

    Nice insight Macdaddy. That is probably the case.

  • Macdaddy

    Seriously…do some homework and study what a guys is doing and how he is doing it before you jump on your trader Jack ship and send the guy packing. So seeing you’re so in tune with the value proposition that is Dillon Gee…what do you do? Who is your trading partner and what do you get for him…because I assure you if you put Gee on the table…you will be fleeced and essentially demonstrate your complete lack of player/personnel knowledge. But of course what the heck do I know.

  • Seattle could use him as a 3B. Murph for Franklin and a reliever? Seager has a little more power than Murph but doesn’t hit for the average and can’t steal a base

  • well that’s the thing – he’d come on a cheap deal because no one is gonna pick him off of waivers at $5,000,000 a year or whatever it is that the Rays owe him

  • WillisReid

    .438 BAA 3rd time through the order.

  • Bail4Nails

    Anyone notice that Wilfredo Tovar is Outhitting Matt Reynolds in Binghamton? They’re both Hitting very well, but that surprised me.
    At this point, I want Flores promoted to the Mets, so we can get those 2 competing in Vegas. I don’t see how Flores can be worse than Tejada/Quintanilla. Right now, that’s virtually Impossible.
    Bring up Flores, let Tovar and Reynolds battle it out in Vegas for next in line. By then, we should be near June, when you can go after a Trade if you need to. Let’s move on from T and Q and see what the Farm can do. What the hell is the Holdup?

  • If Murphy could get you Franklin he would be gone already.

  • WillisReid

    Awesome city. Did you get a Fat Tire?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Do you have any examples of these “stupid” plays?

    He’s a “bonehead” but he’s going to get Franklin and a reliever from Seattle? Wow.

  • I don’t see why a proven top 10 offensive 2B under team control for almost 2 full seasons could not net an unproven future 2B

  • willymayshayes

    If you could trade Wright for a great SS and have Flores fill in at 3B, would you entertain the thought?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Who is this “great SS?”

  • CJM

    Yes. But there’s no way they’d get fair value back for Wright at this point.

  • willymayshayes

    a healthy Tulo, for argument sake.

  • willymayshayes

    Why? contract or what?
    I’m guessing that a slow start is not it, he has too long of a resume.

  • Sell The Team

    Ok that’s it. Can we just finally leave Lagares in centerfield and check back in say eight years?????

  • Macdaddy

    Good point I had forgotten about his outing versus the Marlins.

  • CJM

    Contract plus he is showing his age, and seemed to start to show his age last year. The time to trade him would’ve been before the 2013 season, when they traded Dickey.

  • Why do we keep dumping Duda when he has an OPS of .808? That’s pretty damn good and I wouldn’t expect Flores to equal it.

  • willymayshayes

    I wouldn’t disagree it might have been better, but selling high is still possible. Just not at the apex.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    No. Swapping one for one it’s basically a push and doesn’t improve our offense overall. Might as well just add Flores at SS in your scenario.

  • SCarton12

    of course flores could be worse, how would it be impossible? The other two have played pretty good defense, which is sort of a necessity for SS.

  • QueensRussell

    Really expecting Familia to get better and better. He has the stuff to close as his control improves. Just don’t know about his mentality. He could be a very good one.

    Great to see Chris Young playing well and hitting.

    Let’s win the Marlins series!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    The time to trade Wright was after the 2007 season.

  • CJM

    I think the Mets would be wise to entertain any possible Wright trade. But they won’t do that. They signed him to finish his career in NY, whether it was the right move or not.

  • CJM

    Uh, no.

  • QueensRussell

    By the way, nice recap Tommy!

  • willymayshayes

    WHAT? with all respect, I’d want defense at SS.
    NOT the same

  • willymayshayes

    I agree.

    That “nice guy” will be here for the rest of his career.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Uh, yes. It was his best season as a Met and after that dreadful collapse, they could have shaken this whole franchise up with fresh prospects. We’d have resigned Reyes and probably have netted four or five prospects, two at least would have been high impact.

    We’d be a totally difference team right now.

  • SCarton12

    What an absurd comment.

  • Because one is very cheap and will play above average 2b while the other is older, more expensive and more of a liability in the field. Franklin is like a year removed from being a top prospect where as Murphy gets proposals for middle relievers.

    I like Murphy but the reason he is still here is that no other teams view him as highly as you do.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    You make that trade because you want defense at SS? Sorry, but I don’t understand that one bit.

  • CJM

    They were not gonna trade one of their best players after missing the playoffs by one game. That’s a ridiculous notion. Not only that, he was still under team friendly terms where his on field value far exceeded his cost. That is not something you trade a player.

  • JerseyCityMetsFan

    1 game out of first !!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    When his value is at it’s peak? Yes, that is exactly when you trade a player. It hardly would have been earth shattering. Still would have had Reyes and Beltran and Santana.

    A solid core to work with.

    And in return you get top prospects back that would have been major league ready. We’d only just now be talking about paying them.

    It would have been the “Wright” call.

  • JerseyCityMetsFan

    No

  • How so?

  • Bail4Nails

    No, they haven’t played good defense. Okay, they both play decent for the balls they can get to. But have you noticed how far Wright has been playing off the line to cover Tejada’s ass? Neither Tejada nor Quintanilla have much range at all!
    Now, I understand that Flores probably doesn’t have much Range either. But he can probably Hit better than .240.
    You have three in-house choices for Shortstop right now. All three are not good defenders. One could be a Very Good Hitter. It’s not a Rubix Cube we’re working with here.

  • CJM

    No you don’t trade an all-star who is cheap when the team is in contention. It’s that simple.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    No reason to think they wouldn’t have been in contention following that trade.

    We’ll never know, but they needed a facelift. Instead, they stood pat, did nothing, and now here we are. Reyes is gone, Santana is gone, we won nothing, and as you said, Wright is showing his age and this team is further from winning a title now than it was in 2007.

    They ignored the farm completely and it’s only just now starting to show hope. That one trade would have infused the farm with talent and at the major league level as well.

    But hey, Wright will finish his career as a Met, so there’s that.

  • do you watch Mets games? Getting thrown out stealing third with no outs and Wright at the plate? Faking home today only to get caught trying to get back to the bag? Those are just 2 examples in this past series.
    Yeah, even with his mistakes he’s still a proven, solid offensive 2B. Franklin is a spare part who is not proven in the majors.
    Perhaps more thinking and less faux condescension?

  • Franklin is going to be a 2nd baseman eventually. I think the Mariners feel that they’re all set in that department for the near future. He doesn’t have a position and is in the minors.
    Murph has proven that he is serviceable in the field while bringing nice offense for the position. He’d clearly have to move to 3B on the Mariners and perhaps they don’t view his offense as highly at that position but the dude is certainly valuable and doesn’t make much money and is not due to be a FA until after 2015

  • Flores can most certainly be worse than the two of them defensively, Tejada particularly. The question always has been whether his offense can make up for the difference. Still remains to be seen but even though we’ve been hearing about him forever, he’s still a kid

  • Would you trade Flores for two years of a league average offensive and slightly below average SS that cost 6-8m the next two years?

  • Captain America

    Did you say that about Mike Jacobs at 1B too?

  • BigAl831

    Gotta hand it to Gee. I feel so confident with him on the mound. Do we have an ace blossoming? Easy to forget how young Gee and Niese actually are.

  • BigAl831

    I sure did.

  • billpulsipher

    Flores=Eduardo Nunez….enough with the Flores lovers…have the genius GM go out and get a damn SS to fill the black hole that is there

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Haha. Not at all, but okay. We’ll never know what could have been.

  • Connor O’Brien

    And then play Flores at second?

  • Frank Francisco

    Every game Lagares plays makes me more and more confident that his offensive success isn’t a fluke. The kid HAS had offensive success throughout his minor league career in addition to short bursts last season, a fantastic spring and a fantastic winter ball season.

    Perhaps scouts underestimated his offensive potential? Maybe instead of the .250/.300/.400 player is actually closer to a ..280/.340/.450 kind of player.

    It’s no longer April and the kid is still hitting. Maybe its time to give him some credit.

  • mets4lyfe

    Yeah, if there was a scenario where the Rockies would be willing to part with Tulo for Wright.

    Tulo at SS and the Mets would be able to put Zack Lutz at 3B.

  • BigAl831

    Hey would you do me a factor and check out Eduardo Nunez’ minor league numbers? What’s the most home runs he ever hit in the minors? Or his slash line? Or most RBI’s? And compared to Flores? How old is Flores?

    Baseball reference works well.

  • that’s what I’m thinking assuming Flores proves he can handle ML hitting consistently. One of them has to go

  • billpulsipher

    you people who think he is Hanley Ramirez part 2 are clueless. He’s a decent bat with no set IF position aka Nunez. Hes not a top prospect cant miss player, if he was the entire baseball world would be talking about him considering he plays in NY…..

  • mets4lyfe

    I feel like it’s you shtick you play contrarian no matter how wrong you are. Contrary for the sake of being contrary, if you will.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Let’s hope other GMs don’t think that…

  • billpulsipher

    Tulo would blow his knee out in his 2nd game as a met

  • mets4lyfe

    A likely scenario given the Mets luck.

  • billpulsipher

    if other GMs thought highly of him, they would have offered up something legit for him, which I am assuming they havent

  • billpulsipher

    and his own luck…hes always hurt, more than reyes

  • mets4lyfe

    Murphy wasn’t even a top 10 offensive 2B last year.

    No one values Murphy that highly on the trade market.

  • BigAl831

    If you’ve watched games every day since Lagares made it to the bigs then you would be foolish not to be excited by the kid. It’s easy to see that he just has “it.” He’s obviously got the raw talent but to go along with that he also is constantly making adjustments, has incredible baseball instincts, hustles, shows a passion for the game, and is very humble.

    So very excited to watch him develop.

  • maybe he’s doing a Murphy impression?

  • Duffystaub

    Major props to Gee. After last night’s brutal loss he made sure there would be no more of that. The old baseball saying – “Momentum goes as far as tomorrow’s pitcher”.

  • sure he was. 10th in OPS. 9th in HRs. 4th in steals. 11th in OBP. 5th in average

  • Bail4Nails

    Tejada had one good defensive game where he dove for a couple balls, and made some good double plays. Errors, or lack thereof, do not tell the whole story though. I think Flores can get to the same balls Tejada can, as he showed in Spring Training.
    I’m not saying Flores is the Star Shortstop of the Future for the Mets. But I know Tejada/Q DEFINITELY are not. I don’t understand what we have to lose by replacing a Castillo-type Hitter with Average Defense, with Flores. Even if Flores is slightly worse on Defense, he has consistently driven in Runs throughout his MiL Career, and even in ST.
    Flores replaces a HUGE hole in our Lineup for now. This buys us time to see what we have in Tovar/Reynolds.
    Much like Davis, I’m just suggesting that we move on to the next guy in line for the Position. If we have to keep moving on until we find, or Trade for the right Shortstop, so be it.
    Shortstop and Bullpen still need to be fixed if the Mets are going to attempt making the Playoffs. Now, before the Deadline, is the time to see what we have in the Farm, for better or worse.
    I don’t want to Lose this Season riding Valverde, Farnsworth, and Tejada to the Finish Line.
    How do we know Flores isn’t our next Offensive Lagares? Not at all Defensively, don’t get me wrong here.

  • no but Murphy is an above average offensive 2B

  • mets4lyfe

    A remember reading a couple of scouting reports a couple of years ago about Lagares when he was tearing up AA (.370/.392/.512). One of the reports said that Lagares has the ability to consistently make solid contact with the baseball and the ability to use all parts of the baseball field. Lagares has always had the ability to hit and hit for gap power, the question has always been his plate discipline. He’s always been too prone to swinging way out of the strike-zone and pitches in the dirt.

    Here’s something else, a couple of scouts compared his ability to hit(remember, just hitting, not plate discipline) to Manny Ramirez.

  • Yeah I think you could build around Franklin and Flores for now. Free up Murphy’s money and if Franklin can’t stick at SS then you trade either he or Flores later.
    That’s assuming that they don’t think Flores can play SS and Franklin is passable. Neither of us know how the Mets rate either.

    That being said no shot in hell of that trade being straight up.

  • and Flores has a .939 fielding pct at short this year. Flores can very well be a great offensive player. He hasn’t shown it yet which is why I suggest we wait a bit longer to see what he is actually capable of before making a choice. He’s starting to hit in the notoriously hitter friendly PCL. I think we can pull the trigger if the guy is batting .330 in AAA but .289 in that league ain’t gonna cut it in the MLs

  • mets4lyfe

    OPS isn’t park nor league adjusted.

    He ranked 12th among 2B with 400+ PAs in wRC+. Murphy’s a slightly above-average major league hitter. His ability to hit sometimes gets glorified because he hits so many singles and his mythical title of “.300” hitter even though he’s never hit .300 over the course of a full season.

  • mets4lyfe

    But he’s also a below average defensive 2B.

  • T Boogy

    Don’t know if anyone has pointed this out, or how long this has been the case, but all 5 teams in the NL East have a winning record. 90 wins isn’t going to come easy if the Marlins and Phillies keep playing well.

  • RyanF55

    Yeah a bunch of the breweries around the field sold it. Solid beer.

  • Ok slightly above average offensive SS.
    Doesn’t change the point. Franklin was even more highly regarded than Flores. Flores doesn’t have a spot with us, still the Mets wouldn’t just dump him for a similar player with less years and more cost.

  • Bail4Nails

    Fair enough. I’m just so tired of watching Rallies die when the 8 “Hitter” gets up. Neither one of T or Q’s Defense makes up for the holes in their bat, IMO.
    Flores or not, I’ll come to CitiField when we have a Good Shortstop again.

  • Metropolitan

    Gee Money!!

  • Bail4Nails

    Nothing “legit” was offered for ANY Met players this Offseason. When Ownership is Atrocious, you have to use whatever players you have in your system.
    Sandy is apparently Allergic to trading for a Shortstop, or he didn’t think Franklin, Didi, or Pennington (yuck) were Upgrades. I don’t know. But anything’s better than T/Q. Flores is next, then Tovar/Reynolds.
    What star Shortstop are you expecting the Mets to get?

  • I hear ya man – I’m not gonna cry when RT is replaced. I just hope we can be patient enough to go about it the right way. If it is Flores, awesome. If it is Franklin and Flores goes to 2nd or gets traded and we keep Murph – awesome. Just as long as we’re doing our best to put the top 8 guys out there, I don’t care who it is.

  • I like the sabers as much as the next guy but wRC+ is getting kinda voodoo-y for my taste. I can’t find an OPS+ ranking though

  • Beltran minus the power? I’ll take it

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Manny Ramirez? Was this scout by any chance named Mr. Magoo?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Here here

  • Unblockable

    lmfao @ Eduardo Nunez. Flores is going to drive in 100 ribbies for someone. It better be the Mets..

  • mets4lyfe

    Ofcourse, Manny Ramirez had some of the best plate discipline you’ll ever see and tremendous power. I’m assuming the scout was attempting to draw parallels between Manny and Juan’s ability to make consistent hard contact and drive the ball to all parts of the field.

  • mets4lyfe

    Beltran was also a great base-stealer in his early years. Lagares doesn’t show nearly that type of proficiency on the base-paths.

    He might end up being Beltran minus the base-stealing and power. Potentially.

  • Lotus1209

    The marlins started 11-0 two years ago. It’s the end of the first month.. They’ll fade quickly.

  • Jgreen

    Marlins are 3rd at avg, 4th at obp, 3rd at slugging in league by today. It will cool down eventually but they did improve a lot to back up Stanton. Jose Fernandez looks untouchable also. I’m not saying they can contend for playoff or anything this year but things will get only better for this team in the future. (Not counting Loria factor though lol)

  • willymayshayes

    It’s not for any ONE reason, it would be for many reasons. some of which I have already alluded to…..

  • prosoundz

    It’s because of Loria and those trades, that the Marlins are now young and on the upcoming and have turned it around rather quickly. He invests heavily on scouts, which is a plus. He also realizes his mistakes when they are made. Paying for over-priced free agent but not cementing his team with a contract by giving out ridiculous no-trade clauses. He has two W.S rings as well. So I really don’t know why people hate Loria so much. He managed to get a new stadium for his team even if it meant that he looked like the bad guy. He also refused to trade Stanton when he was unhappy.

  • Hotstreak
  • Joey D.

    “The Truest New Yorker Of Them All”

    Hi Tommy,

    You mean Curtis signed the letter and returned it to the Mets? 🙂

  • DrDooby

    To me, the best comparable for Wilmer Flores has always been the Cardinals’ Allan Craig. Though Flores is a bit slower. Still, that’s basically Flores’ offensive profile. And defensively, Craig has mostly played 3b and 1b for St.Louis filling in at 2b on occasions too, early in his career before being moved to RF this year. Flores isn’t fast enough for that. Craig isn’t an All Star but he’s a “tough out”. And that could be Flores’ ultimate role. Be it as the Mets 2b, the 1bman or being traded somewhere.

  • mr mojo risin

    Your posting is in a slump

  • Joey D.

    Hi mets4lyfe,

    That’s what I remember reading about Juan as well. That despite the stats, the concern was that he might never make it as a major league hitter because of his too aggressive plate approach.

    We see him being more disciplined now and perhaps what caused him to nosedive last year was a combination of pitchers getting familiar with him but also that they caught onto his undisciplined habits and exploited them I’m kind of hoping that Juan learned from that experience since he does have such natural ability and he followed that up with a fine season in winter ball and as we know he is doing the job well now.

    Still, too small a sample size but it’s encouraging. It would be wrong of us to expect him to continue at this pace but if he has learned to discipline himself more which is leading to the more consistent solid contact the scouts thought possible, then we have found ourselves one hell of a center fielder and one whom we don’t have to say is being carried because of his glove.

    That there was serious consideration sending him down before the end of spring training makes me wonder if the scouts watching him doing well in winter ball were still noticing the same thing they did when he was in double-A.

  • DrDooby

    The Mets are a team with one of the better defenses in the majors right now and are looking to build around a young pitching staff. While better offense would be nice, I’m not sure that plan is helped by putting the SS with what would surely be the worst range among starting shortstops behind those young arms.

    While Tejada isn’t the answer, neithe is Flores for those reasons And neither will be Tovar or Matt Reynolds who may be slightly better defenders than Tejada but figure to provide similarly miniscule offense. The Mets will have to go outside the organization for their next SS. And the sooner, the better as no in-house help figures to arrive until at least 2016…

  • DrDooby

    Using scouting grades, Quintanilla and Tejada are 45 defenders and 40 hitters at the major league level. Fringe average defense and well below average offense.
    Flores would probably provide 50 to 55 offense – at least average if not better – but only 35 to 40 caliber defense, making him borderline unplayable or as good as Justin Turner or David Wright there.

  • Shea2citi

    I don’t know about the Nunez comparison but met fans definitely do overrate him. Not every prospect is can’t miss. Some mets fans think every guy in the system that comes up through the minors is gonna make an impact at the major league level which is ridiculous. There’s some prospects you keep and hopefully use to better the major league club. There’s some you use as pieces to improve the club via trade. Flores in my opinion is not apart of the team’s future. He’s without a position and his bat isn’t that impressive.

  • DrDooby

    It also doesn’t hurt having depth as players do get injured. Say, Murphy gets injured, it’s a lot nice replacing him with Flores than with Quintanilla or Seratelli.

    In 1986, the Mets had Ray Knight and Howard Johnson at 3b and 4 starting outfielders (Straw, Dykstra, Mookie, Mitchell). Did that hurt ?

  • Shea2citi

    I think it’s ridiculous to suggest trading Murphy considering he’s the second best hitter on the team and the most clutch hitter on the team. Flores gets way overvalued by many met fans, to me he’s a non factor that has a marginal bat with no position. I think that Sandy and the met organization as a whole feel the same way. Which is why he’s rotting in AAA and hasn’t been called up to replace Tejada. The mets should not be trading a position they have set with a pretty good player (Murph) that doesn’t make that much money and weaken the team in the process. Sandy should be trading from a position of strength, for instance starting pitching, to improve the team.

  • mets4lyfe

    Hi Joey,

    I completely agree, even though Lagares has been great offensively, it’s still too small a sample size to draw any sort of significant conclusions. I definitely see improvements, but I have to see it being sustained for a long period before I can anoint Juan as one of the top overall CF in baseball. Lagares’ K rate is still at an extremely high 25.7%, which needs to come down.

  • Destry

    You mean the Reyes that missed 80 games last year and is hitting .188 with no SBs? Very funny dude. Very funny.

  • Destry

    Exactly. Why would you want to trade him? Franklin is hitting .120. He’s not a SS, and no where near the player that Murphy is, so the whole scenario is truly laughable unless you’re trying to make the Mets worse. Prospects are just prospects until they prove it at the major league level, and most fail.

  • Destry

    He was a top 5 2B in 2013 offensively

  • Destry

    I think Wheeler ends up in the bullpen. He has nothing in his arsenal that can get LH hitters out.

  • Destry

    He’s basically been one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball for the past calendar year. Since May 30th 2013 anyway.

    13-6 2.66 ERA 190 IP 1.11 WHIP, and should have at least 5 more wins on his record.

  • Destry

    Gonna be tough for David to hit it out of that park vs a RHP. Eovaldi’s been really good, and Wright is a much better hitter vs LHP. Its a big stadium.

  • Destry

    Starters needs to throw strikes to get outs. RPs get people out with pitches out of the zone.

  • Destry

    Andrew Brown is hitting .400 with a HR every other night in Vegas. Vegas is in no way shape of form comparable to Citi Field. Not saying FLores won’t eventually hit, but he isn’t ready to take over SS at the major league level because he hit a HR in Vegas.

  • Destry

    Playing 81 games in Citi takes 25 points off Murphy’s average, and probably 5 HRs.

  • Destry

    I didn’t realize the only way you can be good at baseball is to hit a HR. Man I need to study up on the game.

  • Destry

    Lagares, Duda & Murphy have been the 3 best hitters on the team this year, but Wright, Duda & Murphy are the 3 best hitters on our team, in that order.

  • Destry

    He’s making hard contact. His babip is extremely low, as he hasn’t struck out much at all. I really feel like he is making the most consistent hard contact of anyone, but he just seems to seek out the other teams glove.

  • Destry

    Do you think Duda would have the same numbers he has now if he played his home games in New Commisky instead of Citi Field?

  • DrDooby

    The first WS ring went to Wayne Huizenga, the inital Marlins owner.

    So, Loria has 1 WS title and very little playoff time to show for otherwise. He´s an awful owner, though the Marlins have a pretty good front office and a good scouting staff in place. Whatever window they may have certainly won´t last very long. But that´s been their long time m.o. – go for it for 1 or 2 years and then blow the whole thing up and rebuild for the next 5…

  • DrDooby

    Yes, very good job by Gee in hostile environments. He has really performed well this year and for the majority of last year too. He certainly has emerged as a very dependable mid-rotation type SP.

  • metsaholic

    You’re wrong about Reyes this year…he has 1 SB.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Thanks. I wonder if his pitches lose some of their movement as he reaches a certain point in a game.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Yeah. Willis Reed pointed out that he has given up a 438 average to teams the third time through the order.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Sounds about right.

  • AlexHZ

    Are you trying to insinuate that Tejada is a better hitter then Flores? If tejada is better defensively at ss then flores it is only by a very small margin and the offense of Flores outweighs that.

    Unless he is committing errors left and right and his range completely blows, he cannot be any worse. If murph gets traded then great flores can go to second. There is no other option. They won’t trade for another SS, wont sign Drew. So the way I see it is; either Flores at ss or Tejada and Q.

  • DrDooby

    The Mets do not have to get a “star SS”. What the Mets need to get is a legitimimate starting SS who should at least have a chance to be league averagish.

    Didi Gregorius would qualify. So would Nick Franklin. Or Stephen Drew. Or Hak Ju Lee. Or – though he´s a free agent after the season – Asdrubal Cabrera if the Indians decide to sell early.

    Neither Ruben Tejada nor Omar Quintanilla has a realistic shot to be fringe league average overall.

  • calamityfrancis

    i think the way both have been playing, they are now worth at least as much as last year…and in gee’s case, even more.

    i expect one of niese/gee/murph to be traded for a big bat either at the trade deadline or in the offseason.

    time to get some offense, and since our FO/owners don’t want to increase payroll year over year, it has to come from trades.

  • skiplockweird

    Beltran having a rough time in the outfield this year.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Strange game for Gee in the sense that he fell behind in a lot of counts, but still got through 6 scoreless.

  • Peter S

    Meija is first out

  • Taskmaster4450

    Was Lagares a top prospect? Gee? Murphy?

    No, none of them were but all are quality major league players contributing for the Mets.

  • IndianaMet

    Did you watch the Loria/Marlins reality show on Showtime a few years back? It was the year they loaded up with all the FA and then finished last. He is a total a$$ clown. It was pure comedy. If that organization is successful, it’s despite him.

  • Erin_II

    Gee money is turning out to be better than any Met fan could have possibly hoped for. Dare I make any Maddux comparisons?

  • dealingwithidiots

    Thanks for the daily update of your miserable existence.

  • SCarton12

    I understand your want of a good bat in the line-up, what you don’t understand is the need for a competent glove, at the most important position.

  • Hotstreak

    I did already.

  • SCarton12

    Because Murphy (proven 2nd baseman) can get you more than Franklin (unproven future 2nd baseman). They have Cano, they don’t want a 2nd baseman and Murphy has less value as a 3rd baseman.

  • Metjorge

    What were the relievers doing at the gym in the 7th?

  • Erin_II

    Pretty exciting, aye, Streak?

  • Hotstreak

    Sure is Erin. Here was my post referring to Gee.

    Hotstreak • 18 days ago

    What about Greg Maddox types?: 6 + innings QS not over powering. A contrast to Glavine and Smoltz.

    Back to Now: Gee was always a QS guy.

    Then he had heart problem and came back shaky which is to be expected. Everyone got on him including TC who said he could wind up in BP.

    I was the biggest Niese fan but then said to myself I rather have Gee pitch a game like yesterday which we really needed. 🙂

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, that Reyes. Who plays shortstop for us again?

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Because he ripped off the city of Miami to build that pos stadium and as soon as his best players need to get paid, he trades them.

    The signed all those guys two years ago and traded them all the following season.

  • SCarton12

    How does it take 25 points off his average? Is the inf grass higher at home? Is the foul territory larger? Is the OF so small he loses gap hits?

  • mets4lyfe

    Murphy ranked 12th in wRC+,13th, in wOBA, and 12th in OPS among 2Bs with 450 PAs or more. But, yeah, top 5 offensive 2B.

    I don’t know what you’re looking at, honestly.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yes, that Reyes. Who’s our SS right now? Ruben Tejada? Yeah, we’re better off. And you’re assuming he’d be hurt right now in a Mets uniform.

    It’s also the Reyes who played 160 games for Miami the year he was there.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    With Tulo’s injury history, the production he brings will be about what we’d be giving up with Wright. It’s a push.

  • Captain America

    Last in SB?

  • $14435385

    You have to figure a pitcher throwing at altitude after having pitched at sea level has to adjust his pacing and his grip (to get movement on his secondary pitches); that’s enough to throw his control off a bit, but not so much to get him off his game plan. To me it comes back to the fact that he’s the most mentally tough pitcher they have – he knows how to bend without breaking.

  • Destry

    wRC+ doesn’t take into account staying healthy for an entire season. You can have 1 AB and be the wRC+ leader. He was top 10 in almost offensive categories last year among all positions.

  • Destry

    Really? Ever watched a game at Citi? Its a tough park on LH as the ball crushed into the RCF gap hangs in the air, and is usually a long out. He hit 50 pts higher on the road last year.

  • Destry

    Someone with a higher avg and making 20mil less per season. ALBATROSS

  • Destry

    What? Not sure how you got that. No. Im not, but Flores at SS doesn’t improve our team over Q or Tejada. Sure he might hit better, but he might not, but you can be certain that he will cost us more defensively than either of those two subpar SS. He is barely adequate, and well below average defensively at 2B. He will easily be the worst defensive SS in baseball. The offensive production he would have to provide to make up for the additional runs that will score by him playing SS would have to be Miguel Cabrera level from day 1. That ain’t happening.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    hahahaha. yeah, because you’d rather have Tejada than Reyes. Don’t even bother lying.

  • SCarton12

    You answer makes no sense, just admit you made a mistake on BA. Its not the stadium, its in their heads.