Mets Farm Report: Flores Collects Four Hits, Blasts Two Homers

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TACOMA 6, LAS VEGAS 4

Logan Verrett would have his best start of the season wasted on Friday, as the Las Vegas 51′s bullpen couldn’t hold up their end of the bargain dropping the game against Tacoma 6-4.   Verrett would go a strong seven innings allowing just one run before handing the ball over to the bullpen.  The 51′s headed into the bottom of the 8th inning with a 3-1 lead.  They would limp to their half of the ninth trailing 6-3.  Tacoma sent 11 batters to the plate in a 5-run inning as the proverbial bottom dropped out from underneath the 51′s.  Las Vegas would end up having to use three pitchers to get out of the inning.  Wilmer Flores would go 4-for-5, belt two home runs, and drive in two of the four runs in the losing effort.  Allan Dykstra and Brandon Allen would drive in the other two Las Vegas runs.  It was a very disappointing finish to the game on Friday, but Las Vegas will get the chance to bounce back against Tacoma on Saturday.  Dana Eveland is the scheduled starter for the 51′s.

BINGHAMTON 5, PORTLAND 1

Greg Peavey goes six innings picking up his first win of the season, as the Binghamton Mets take down the Portland Sea Dogs 5-1.  Peavey tallied four strikeouts bringing his season total to 19 in four starts.  Kyle Johnson provided much of the offense as he drove in two of the Mets runs.  Johnson went 2-for-3 and also scored a run.  Kevin Plawecki also had a multi-hit night for Binghamton going 2-for-4 with a double and two runs scored.  As long as the weather holds up on Saturday, the Mets and Sea Dogs are scheduled to play a double header on Saturday starting at 12:05 pm.  This will be the third double header for Binghamton so far this season. Matthew Bowman and Darin Gorski are the scheduled starters for the Mets.

ST. LUCIE vs BRADENTON

Friday’s game was rained out and will be made up on Saturday as part of a double header.

SAVANNAH 2, ROME 1

The Savannah Sand Gnats would improve to 18-8 on the season, thanks to a balk, a hit batsman, and tremendous pitching, as they defeat the Rome Braves 2-1.  Miller Diaz would improve to 2-0 on the season as he lasted a season-high 6.1 innings allowing one run while striking out six.  The Sand Gnats bullpen would close the game out not allowing a hit in over two innings of work.  Darwin Frias would record his third hold of the season while Robert Coles picked up his fourth save.  Savannah would get on the board in the first inning thanks to a leadoff triple by Gavin Cecchini and a balk by Rome’s starting pitching Chuck Buchanan.  The Sand Gnats would pick up what would be the game winning run on a bases loaded hit by pitch by Tyler Vail.  The Braves would score a run of their own in the seventh inning but just couldn’t solve the Sand Gnats pitching when it was all said and done.  John Gant is scheduled to start on Saturday for Savannah in the second game of the four-game series.

METS MINORS PLAYER of the NIGHT

It has to be so frustrating for a pitcher to throw their best game of the season just to have it wasted with a poor performance from the bullpen.  Savannah and Las Vegas (with the exception of the bullpen) enjoyed solid pitching but when the dust settled the MMN Player of the Night honor goes to Wilmer Flores for his two dingers in the loss to Tacoma.

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  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Look out, Tejada–he’s heating up!

  • Andrew Herbst

    Tejada better watching out. Wilmer’s get hot!

  • Agee’s Catch

    Rafiki: It Is Time!

  • skyking26

    I really like to see Wilmer solve SS for the Mets. I don’t want to see Drew as a met and if we traded for Franklin. He is still better suited at 2b. If Flores can solve SS for us. One of our stud pitchers can go for a clean up bat at 1b or outfield.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Interesting a couple days after the Puma article about a team source not believing Flores can play SS, Wilmer is back there.

  • mets4lyfe

    Wilmer’s sitting at .779 OPS now. Nice!

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Almost makes you think sportswriters aren’t credible sources for accurate information. 😉

  • mr mojo risin

    Wish the Mets offense swung as much ‘would’ as these write-ups

  • KennyandtheMets

    Shhh. That is supposed to be a secret. 🙂

  • KennyandtheMets

    Regardless of what happens at SS, I think there needs to be a stud pitcher for a stud power bat type deal.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Tejada is so bad that he needs to look out for Quintanilla. Am I the only one who knew that Ruben would hit into that double play last night? That was our one chance for a big inning and he just killed it.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I know. It is painful to watch the way the Rockies swing the bats. It’s like we bring toothpicks up to the plate in comparison.

  • Benny

    BRING HIM UP!

    It’s a short trip from Vegas to Denver anyway…

  • KennyandtheMets

    Off topic: Has anyone else noticed how much DW is complaining to the umps this year? He is starting to look like Ike Davis.

  • mets4lyfe

    That’s called the Ike Davis syndrome. Symptoms include being off to a terrible start in the first month of the season .(.623 OPS)

    Correction: .575 OPS

  • shouldaswung

    Syndergaard for Springer…

  • mr1313

    Hell no. Springer hasn’t proven anything in the majors yet.

  • Manager of The Year

    Cecchini is 10 for his last 19 with 3 walks. It really seems he is a very streaky hitter. Last year he’d hit .200 one week and .350 the other. Shades of DW

  • shouldaswung

    Uh, neither has Syndergaard..

  • shouldaswung

    They got a taste of our 2 “worst” SP’ers. I expect things will be different in the next 2 games. (fingers crossed)

  • mets4lyfe

    Cecchini is hitting .308/.400/.410 in his last 10 games.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Accompanied by nausea for Mets fans.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’m not feeling like any of our pitchers can slow them down right now. I hope I am wrong.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Tell me about Springer. Or maybe I can use the Internet, instead of being lazy.

  • mr mojo risin

    definitely not saying he can’t play, but he’s off to a slow start … 5th lowest SLG% of anyone with >60 PA’s

  • shouldaswung

    George Springer is a top 20 outfield prospect (MLB), who plays for the Astros. He is 6’3 and 200 pounds. Played for Connecticut in college, and had a 30-30 year in the minors last season.

    He profiles as a RF although he can play CF too. Think Stanton with a bit less power and a bit more speed.

    The Astros have 3 top hitting prospects, and have expressed a desire for veteran SP. It would be nice to send Niese in a package to HOU instead of Syndergaard in a package, but I have no idea if the Astros would do that.

  • KennyandtheMets

    They are both prospects. Neither one has proven anything in the majors. At some point, we have to give up some pitching for some offense. This team desperately needs a power bat.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Thanks. He looks like a great fit.

  • Martin

    wilmer should have been called up yesterday.

  • shouldaswung

    He would be. The Astros might be inclined to move him because of their need for a winning season and win-now veterans, as well as the fact that Singleton and Correa are there as other big hitting prospects.

    I would send Syndergaard AND Flores for Springer, myself, but I wouldn’t open with that offer if I were Sandy.

  • KennyandtheMets

    We have room in RF. I think Granderson should be in LF. He hasn’t shown the arm for RF this year. CF looks to be occupied for a long time. I think Lagares is special.

  • Dark HelMet

    Yikes. Bad trade.

  • shouldaswung

    Exactly what I was thinking. Springer in RF, Lagares in CF, Granderson in LF, Young traded or gone as a FA, Young Jr on the pine, and Puello hopefully making us have tough decisions.

  • shouldaswung

    That is a realistic trade, and would be a good trade if everyone involved reached their potential. A big IF. If not, could be a regrettable trade for either side.

    Either way, we have a need for an impact bat, no place to put Flores, and surplus SP.

  • Macdaddy

    I have a solution…fire Hudgens. Let’s look at the facts: Team is suggesting that the objective is to drive opposition pitch counts, be patient, use the whole field and migrate to a team wide higher OBP…yet to this point the Mets are 25th in the league (wow rock star status…hahaha)…and yes folks they are raking it on the BA level at a whopping .221 clip which only has the Cubs & Padres just slightly behind at .213…so you tell me what the problem is…beyond suggesting the talent…what amazing body of work has Hudgen’s produced? It interesting that since Davey Boy took over in 2011 the Mets have gone from being 6th in the league with an OBP of .335 to now averaging 25 or worse since that time. So you tell me…anyone see a pattern here?

  • KennyandtheMets

    Granderson LF, Lagares CF, Springer RF. Works for me!! Maybe Niese and Flores? Or Gee and Flores? Syndergaard straight up?

  • KennyandtheMets

    They are way too passive at the plate. There is no question about that.

  • mr mojo risin

    I’d need to see an established player if we were to trade Noah

  • shouldaswung

    I would prefer Niese go over Syndergaard, and there are some interesting packages that could be offered. I’m not sure Syndergaard straight up would get it done, but definitely start the conversation from the bottom (Niese or Gee straight up).

  • sperry

    Gladly take that over the guy we currently have who just hits .200 every week

  • shouldaswung

    Fair enough. I’m ok with moving an unproven top prospect from our depth (SP), for an unproven top prospect to fill our need (power bat).

    Throw out a trade you WOULD move Syndergaard for.

  • KennyandtheMets

    We really need a power bat in a big way. With Granderson and Duda in the line up right now, I think we have some LH power (if Curtis can find his stroke). So adding a RH power bat should be the priority. CY is not consistent and he isn’t going to be here next year anyway.

  • Lutece

    Gee/Niese and Murphy for a legit shortstop, move Flores to second base.

  • mr mojo risin

    not that I WOULD lol … and it would obviously have to fit the criteria of an uncrazy salary, but Viciedo or Castro come to mind

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    WILMER FLORES > DAVID WRIGHT
    WILMER FLORES > MIGUEL CABRERA
    WILMER FLORES > ALEX RODRIGUEZ
    WILMER FLORES > TROY TULOWITZKY
    WILMER FLORES > HANLEY RAMIREZ
    WILMER FLORES > CHIPPER JONES
    WILMER FLORES > DEREK JETER

    ALL HAIL EMPEROR FLORES

  • shouldaswung

    In my DREAM scenario, we move Niese and Murphy to TEX for Feliz and Andrus, we move Colon to LAA for Smith and Yarbrough, and we move Syndergaard to HOU for Springer.

    I think these trades are pretty much fair, but highly unlikely to happen. The trades would give us a very good bullpen, lineup, and defense, while severely lowering our SP talent and depth. We would still have Gee, Wheeler, Mejia, Matsuzaka, Montero, and DeGrom for the rotation this year, and Harvey added for next year.

    I’m getting carried away now…

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Well certain sports writers…….like Puma

  • shouldaswung

    Like who amigo?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Nooooooooo way Springer has way too much swing and miss to his game to give up Syndegaard for.

    I think he will be a good player but I dont have a lot of faith he will be as good as expected

  • Macdaddy

    Have I told you lately that you write some funning shiznet….love the enthusiasm.

  • shouldaswung

    Viciedo of the stone-hands tribe? I’ll pass. lol.

    Which Castro are you referring to? Jason or Starlin? I’ll assume Starlin, and also pass. Not for Syndergaard. I’d want Baez for Syndergaard, personally.

    I would trade someone else for Starlin though, good idea, MMR.

  • Macdaddy

    Passive…kittens in mittens demonstrate more aggression than Mets hitters.

    In contrast…Yes the PCL is a hitters league and been such for years but even with that particular understanding, you can see that Wally has all his guys in the top portion of the league offensively and I don’t see a passive approach coming out of Vegas. Time to either pull the plug or rip cord…and let Dave find another organization to ruin.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    These are FACTS bro….Im clairvoiyant I can see things before they happen.

    10yrs from now you’ll look back at this day and say, “Holysh** I remember when the great BBLB told me Flores would dominate on MMO thread”.

    😉

  • mr mojo risin

    yeah Starlin … just playing along, I don’t really get into the trade scenarios much. I just happened to do a FanGraphs search for guys 25 and under, and looked for some relatively cheaper SS/OF guys who could possibly be moved

    and not necessarily straight up either

  • shouldaswung

    I would take the gamble, personally, but AFTER I tried to move Niese/Gee/Wheeler/Montero. We need a big impact bat, and Springer looks like a A. Rios/Stanton floor/ceiling type of player.

  • shouldaswung

    Understood, MMR. I like to talk trade once in a while. We all really have no idea what Sandy is thinking or would/wouldn’t do, but it lets me have a happy won-the-lottery-in-my-dreams moment.

  • shouldaswung

    Add in the fact that Springer would be a GREAT defender in RF with a big arm, next to a GREAT defender in CF with a big arm (Lagares), and Granderson would be a GOOD defender in LF where his arm wouldn’t help/hurt us.

    Our OF would be a DOMINATING defensive unit on the catching-the-ball side, and an INTIMIDATING outfield unit on the should-I-take-an-extra-base/ tag-up side.

  • mr mojo risin

    Cool, the only trade I was really hoping for was like a Montero/Ike/Flores package or so for Encarnacion, but that was last year. Besides, I don’t think the Jays want to deal with us for a while

  • KennyandtheMets

    Sounds good to me. Sign me up.

  • mets4lyfe

    Hudgens serves as the bridge from the FA to the players. Not sure if he’s the issue.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Maybe a little carried away, but you have good ideas.

  • Rocky Thompson

    His numbers still look ugly, but after a very slow start to the season Erik Goeddel has been pitching very well the last couple of weeks.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I like that a lot.

  • mr mojo risin

    I dunno, just from what I’ve read I don’t really see the Astros in a rush to be in ‘win-now’ mode. I think they’re trusting their scouting dept. with their recent high picks, and seem proud of what they’re trying to build.

  • shouldaswung

    The Astros have lost 111, 107, and 106 games over the last 3 years. they are on pace to lose 105 this year, as well.

    Their off-season signing of Scott Feldman was because of a desperate need for veteran SP, which the Houston brass has repeatedly stated they are interested in acquiring.

    A package of Niese or Gee would seem to be a POSSIBLE fit, although other teams have similar talent to trade as well.

    I agree that the Astros COULD stand pat. They might be getting ants-in-their-pants too though. Who knows?

  • mr mojo risin

    true, that Feldman signing is similar to what was expected here for Colon. A veteran presence that is supposed to get 180-200 IP and take some burden off an otherwise young staff … possible trade bait too 😉

  • Macdaddy

    Just jumped in my time machine to check on your clairvoyance…and well I don’t want to ruin the surprise or suspense. All I know…my brutha from anutha…is you sir are a classic. Yes BBLB you are a bad man with bad intentions.

    I have but one prayer before all games, that I have my team say…Lord have mercy on our opponent today because we won’t…hahaha.

  • Macdaddy

    Not buying what you are selling today Dawg…I agree with most of your observations but this particular produce looks a bit baked today. What else do you have…maybe you’re holding back the good stuff…so what are you hiding on me…hahaha.

    Got any apples? You like apples don’t ya…

  • jason bay

    Times have changed. Pitchers are POUNDING the zone. Not all hitters are the same. Pitchers adjust. What is a pitch to layoff for one guy IS the other guy’s pitch.

    Teaching and reinforcing plate discipline in the minors is a portion of good player development but doing it in the Majors runs the risk of thinking not to swing as opposed to looking to hit.

  • jaygreen55

    At best Wilmer Flores will be the 2nd coming of Gregg Jeffries. A minor league phenom. A bat with no position with a long swing easily solved by major league pitching and scouting reports

  • jason bay

    Granderson should definitely be in LF unless Young Jr is playing.

  • mets4lyfe

    Regardless of the hitting coach, the front office will find someone that will preach the same hitting principles that are being preached right now.

    You can always get a different voice to preach the same message. Ya’ know?

  • Macdaddy

    Paralysis by analysis…my philosophy is two-fold…1) you need to develop pitch recognition and 2) you need to focus on making good contact. How you go about that process obviously requires a number of elements that come from core fundamentals but at the end oft he day…if you can’t recognize pitches and make solid contact…everything else is rather moot.

  • Scottydoeskno328

    WILMER FLORES!!! Here we go people, Tejeda just pissed his pants!

  • Scottydoeskno328

    ALL HAIL FLORES!!!!! LET THE SS DYNASTY BEGIN!!!!

  • Macdaddy

    Ahh..yeah a bit like politics…change the face but keep the same script. From Jessie Jackson to Al Sharpton to Hillary to POTUS…hahaha.

  • TurdFerguson

    Check your premise, why are the astros in need of a winning season? They were the highest profiting team in MLB history last year. You could not be further of point. The Astros are not in a hurry to win now, thats why Singleton is in AAA and Appel was sent back down to extended spring training. Correa is in high A as well.

  • Lutece

    Allan dykstra is super passive and he’s hitting better than everyone else. Nimmo too

  • shouldaswung

    Why are they in need of a winning season? Uh, because no one has been enjoying the record-breaking losing, obviously.

    Never said the Astros were in a “win now” mode. I said they had expressed a desire for veteran/established SP.

    Check your comprehension, I clearly didn’t present the Astros as desperate-to-win-now.

  • Macdaddy

    Ok…and not trying to be an arse-hole with my question. But tell me what is the difference between passive and aggressive hitting…if you don’t mind. Once you explain that to me…then I will address being a selective and situational hitter, while taking an aggressive approach in those situations.

  • Peter S

    And now Flores is on pace for another 15+ HR, 80+ RBI season…hopefully this is a sign of him breakin out.

  • AlexHZ

    Shows how much you know. Flores’ stroke is short and sweet which is why he doesn’t strike out as often as somebody with a long loopy swing. You just pulled that outta your ass, have you even seen him play?

  • Ed Charles

    Okay, here’s some sacrilege: How about we bring up Flores and play him almost everywhere, almost everyday? He can play third, short, second and if you give him a week at 1B he can fill in there. He would add pop to the line-up, be able to give Murph and Wright a day off now and then and platoon with Duda. I’d rather have him coming off the bench as PH as well. This way, we don’t have to make him anything, not yet. We can just see what he IS. He gains nothing in AAA.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Nope. When he ready (he basically didnt play most of the week with the finger issue), I bring him up and plant his butt as SS and play him there everyday. That adds a lot more pop to the lineup. Use Tejada as a defensive replacement if you are worried about Flores glove late in the game.

  • Metropolitan

    all Flores has proved so far is that he is AAAA type player

  • Taskmaster4450

    How has he done that?

    He had 100 ABs in the major leagues.

    How does that prove he is a AAAA player?

  • Brian Regan

    I agree, play him at least three days a week at short, then give hime the josh satin at bats at first against left handers. This is the big leagues he can work with tuefel on infied D before games. I would suspect him to be up in about 1-2 weeks, just felt Denver would be a good place for him to start of with the bat. Could get his confidence up

  • Ed Charles

    You can play him a majority of the time at SS, that’s fine. But why force him into a position before you know what you have? It’s short-sighted. The fact is, his body projects as a 1B, but no reason to force him there yet either. I am not comparing him to Mattingly, but when they brought him up, he played wherever needed. Sure, try him at SS, we have nothing to lose. But if he’s going to be part of the future, I suspect 1B is where he’ll land. I have no idea why he’s not capable of being taught LF either.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    It’s May 3. Murphy and Wright don’t need days off, at least not frequently enough for it to be worth it for Flores. He needs to play every day and other than SS, there’s nowhere for him to do it.

  • Metropolitan

    you always miss the key words…”SO FAR” I did not say undoubtedly ..next time he is up prove he is not by performing up here,that is what it is about and he has done almost nothing with those 100 AB

  • Mook-1

    Totally agree with you Taskmaster. In addition to what you said, Flores seems to be a guy that thrives when he’s settled into one position and not moving all over the infield… and while the potential downgrade in defense is likely, his offensive upside is too great to not seriously test right now (which means coming off the bench is a no-go for me)…

  • Peter S

    Problem is the Mets don’t gain offense by benching wright, Duda or Murph. He should play SS for the first 3 ABs and then be replaced in a close game.

  • Super T

    And you don’t think moving him all over the field in the show (vs. the minors) wouldN’t hurt his offense?

  • Also before he got hurt last season he was a RBI machine.. I guess results don’t matter.

    Check out his numbers and the power is there as well, as his increased range at shortstop.

    http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=&sid=t400&t=p_pbp&pid=527038

  • sunzabtchs

    Gregg Jeffries had a pretty good major league career

    so there’s that

  • Mook-1

    I got no argument with you about where he best projects… 1B (or even 3B) would be good, even if he doesn’t have the typical power profile. But I’d say that’s an offseason/ST experiment, bc i don’t see the FO giving up on Duda this season, and I’d rather keep Flores someplace steady so that he can focus on driving in ribeyes.

  • ill_egl

    He also already has about ten errors.

  • everybodysbuddy

    it’s obvious when a 21 year old hasn’t hit .300 in the majors yet that he never will!

  • everybodysbuddy

    so far, and right now he is a AAA player. I think when people say someone is a AAAA player it is when they are in the majors and are in over their heads.

  • Peter S

    That’s just a dumb way to look at it. He is 21 and has proven he can hit at every level. Next level to get to is ML. Give him at least a season before we label him AAAA.

  • everybodysbuddy

    except for the 0-fer weeks 🙂

  • KennyandtheMets

    Well it seems as though Terry has either decided or been forced into putting EY2 on the bench. So I think it is time to switch CY and Granderson. CY is much better equipped to play RF. Then, when Puello is ready, or if Sandy makes a deal for a RFer, our OF will be set. CY is only going to be there temporarily, but Granderson and Lagares should be locked in to LF and CF.

  • TheMetsMachine

    Yea because he got a chance to play in the majors for so many months. The kid is 22 and has yet to play 1 year of MLB baseball, who are you kidding?

  • TheMetsMachine

    You can’t call a player a AAAA player until a player constantly fails in the majors. So again either you don’t understand your own logic or you just don’t like Flores.

  • Bail4Nails

    I think I remember you saying the same thing about Lagares. So please, by all means, keep talking.

  • There is no reason why Wilmer Flores should not be the starting SS for the New York Mets because of all the reasons of why one would think…no, or not yet, or never…I give you this…Ruben Tejada is the incumbent.

  • SL

    Not sure what you were watching last year, but until Wilmer blew out his ankle, he was raking AND an RBI machine. Unfortunately with the injury to D Wright, they kept him in the lineup when he should have sat for a week or more.
    Put him in, give him 600 AB’s and he will hit the same as he has in the minors, and since he is still filling out, his power numbers will go up by 15-25% over the next few years.