Duda Takes The Blame After Stranding Seven Runners On Base

Arizona Diamondbacks v New York Mets

First baseman Lucas Duda left seven men on base and took responsibility for Saturday’s 3-2 loss against the Diamondbacks.

“I’d like to think it’s a bit of a bad stretch. I can only speak for me personally. I’ve got to drive those runs in, no doubt. I’ll take the blame for this one today.”

Duda’s day began by striking out with the bases loaded in the first inning, swinging wildly after a high pitch after taking two strikes down the middle.

“Definitely a ball. Absolutely. Poor pitch selection,” Duda said. “A poor at-bat, really. Like I said, I’ll take the blame for this one. It was just one of those days. I had a terrible day at the plate. It goes like that. It’s a tough game.”

Duda went 0-4 and is hitting .210 (20-for-95) since April 15 with a .655 OPS since he became the regular first baseman.

Meanwhile, since joining the Bucs, Ike Davis is batting .293 in 30 games with a .387 on-base and .811 OPS in 106 plate appearances. He has lifted his season totals to .276/.382/.424.

MMO

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  • mr1313

    We need a damn legit first baseman. I’ll take Delgado out of retirement over our current options.

  • MikePiazza3186

    I’d rather him take a hike!!!!!!

  • Captain America

    Sign Kendrys Morales. Duda is not the answer.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I commend Duda for stepping up and taking responsibility for this one but I dont think it falls on him. Yes he failed to come through in a couple situations with RISP. However, both were with two outs.

    To me, the loss falls on…..Chris Young. He came up with a man on third and less than two outs and failed to get the run in. He struck out when the DBacks were giving the run. Totally unacceptable in a situation where the league average is over 50% success rate.

  • MikePiazza3186

    True I just don’t like this cy character he seems like a very selfish player and that’s ok but it annoying because he stinks lol

  • mr1313

    Problem with Morales is he can’t play defense at all.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Darling hit the nail on the head.

    Two strikes and only contact needed to drive in the run and CY is swinging with a vicious upper cut. WTF? How stupid is that?

  • Taskmaster4450

    You want Wright to lead the league in errors I see.

  • mr1313

    I dislike CY bad bad signing but last nights game was clearly on Duda. I know one thing Duda is not a middle of the order hitter.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Who’s going to take responsibility for years of substandard rosters?

  • kw_all

    15-11 seems so long ago …

    sigh.

  • mr1313

    There’s obviously zero accountability throughout the organization.

  • Wolfmicky21

    The fans

  • mr1313

    It starts at the top with ownership, down to Sandy (his ego won’t allow him to take responsibility), and next with TC. They just act like hakuna matata.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Right. We don’t buy tickets so it’s our fault. Thanks for reminding me!

  • tidesrus

    Don’t worry Mets fans ,Terry will be at his best today with two lineups to fill out…………Duda,Tejeda,and CY will be in there at least one game

  • Charley’s Twin

    Luckily Terry anticipated playing 2 games today and made sure to use nearly the entire bullpen in a game where the SP went 6 2/3.

  • Charley’s Twin

    they solved the endemic issues in the organization by hiring a new “communications” man.

  • rubagreta

    I think the days of waiting for Duda to reach his “potential” are over. He is an AAAA player, who on the Mets will bat .235, hit 15 to 20 home runs, with 60 to 70 RBI’s. Average fielder at best, and as slow as my granny. Time to move on. At least Campbell can play several positions and apparently good defense. Yes, I know he just came up, but I don’t see him being less valuable than Duda.

  • HawkZon

    Duda takes the blame…so what, what does that mean?
    He isn’t a major ballplayer.

  • HawkZon

    Now they have 3 PR guys and 3 GMS, does it help?

  • MDonaldWilpon

    Lucas Duda would not be the starting first baseman on 29 other teams… including Pittsburgh who traded for the guy the Mets gave up on. The Mets can’t carry a 27 year old who “just needs confidence” when 4-5 other positions are manned by similar AAAA and unproven players.

  • Charley’s Twin

    The next step is probably to replace Gary Keith and Ron with broadcasters less inclined to point out obvious flaws with the team. Sad but true.

  • mr1313

    They will lose a lot of viewers if and when that happens I will be one of them. They are one of the reasons I watch.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I am right there with you, but i still think it could happen. Remember how it ended for Marv Albert at MSG in 2004—basically for the same reason I’m predicting right now. At the time, no Marv on Knicks games was completely unthinkable. And yet, happen it did.

  • Fast Eddie

    While it’s a small step in the right direction that Duda took responsibility for yet another boring loss, we all know he is not the answer at first base….and neither was Ike Davis. Ike will do better with the Pirates because he’s in a better lineup and he has virtually no pressure in Pittsburgh…but Ike, like Duda, is not a big market player either. Both wilt under pressure. Unfortunately, we are going to have to ride it out with Duda this year because there is no help on the way. The front office would rather watch the team lose 90 games and the fan base suffer than to bring in a better player. That’s the reality of what we’re dealing with…

  • Charley’s Twin

    The FO is hurting us, but we’re at least giving it right back to them. I grin every time I see the empty park. I really doubt these losers can hang on much longer.

  • Tom

    Eh he’d start over a lot of current First basemen, theres a lot of really bad ones right now starting. That said he’s not a first baseman for any first division team, that’s for sure.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Jeff Wilpon said he wasn’t interested in Abreu because we have a “glut” of first basemen. Idiot!

  • Tom

    I know you’re joking, but I do fear they move on to greener pastures, aside from Gary who grew up watching this franchise during hard times, the other two especially Ron might get poached. I honestly only loyally watch these losing teams because of that broadcasting team. I’d only half heatedly tune in and out if all the entertainment came from our sorry roster.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I’m actually serious, even though there is a sarcastic tinge to what I wrote. I really could see it happen. And I agree with you–the broadcasters are sadly the main reason to tune in.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Agree they should sign Kendry after the draft BUT knowing Sandy…HE WONT

    Since thatd mean he’d have to admit he made a mistake

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    If Wright leads the league in errors its no ones fault but his own.

    Morales is not as bad as you are making him out to be,

  • mr1313

    That’s code for we are broke.

  • WillisReid

    As bad as Duda has been, I still don’t regret Ike Davis being traded.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Everyone said the same thing about Duda now all of a sudden they think he is Keith Hernandez

  • mr1313

    I do Ike was always better than Duda even if it was slightly better. Duda sucks sorry but it’s the truth he doesn’t have the mentality to hit in the middle of an order or to play in NY.

  • 2rings

    Duda belongs starting at first for the LI Ducks. Not even close to a major league ball player

  • Randolph Scott

    We need a better class of Mets fans.

  • Super T

    Good on Duda for taking responsibility. Fred, Jeff, & Sandy might want to start thinking about doing the same!

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Off a pier

  • mr1313

    According to who? He stinks defensively.

  • WillisReid

    Ike is playing like a poor man’s James Loney in P’burgh. The Mets could probably get similar production from either Murphy or Flores there.

  • Super T

    We saw enough of Ike (last 2 years worth ?) to realize he wasn’t going to make it here either.

  • mr1313

    Haven’t we seen enough of Duda the past 3 seasons? At least Ike had done it before and I know he has more upside still than Duda.

  • Charley’s Twin

    for sure. I still think they’re idiots as well as broke–a rational man would look at this money losing operation, for which Met fans hate them. Then the rational man would look at the Dodgers fetching $2 BILLION IN CASH in a sale. Then a rational man would call his lawyer and hire an investment bank to start the selling process.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LoL….he does that every game….Hell use everyman in the bullpen for the 1s game of the double header. Black wont pitch in either game since Collins hates rookies he’ll say he 4got black made the trip

  • 2rings

    then they should do it and DFA Duda

  • Super T

    I’m not saying we haven’t seen enough of Duda. He hasn’t had as much of a chance at 1B as Ike was given, but neither one of them is the Mets long term 1B answer.

  • WillisReid

    Then they would need to address 2B or SS.

  • BronxMets

    Ill take the blame………..what does that mean exactly. Good coaching on how to handle the press.

  • Randolph Scott

    yeah, what he said …. (I was typing the exact same thing when your reply popped up)

  • BronxMets

    what does it even mean

  • Charley’s Twin

    they need to address SS and 1B anyway. Need more pitchers, too, endless hype for the young arms notwithstanding.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    He’s never hit more than 15 so lets not assume he cant hit 20.

    Yes he has the power to but does he have the ability to make enough solid contact and not force the manager to bench him before he has the chance to even attempt 20

  • 2rings

    they have to do it either way. Flores, Campbell, and Murphy are ALL third basemen. We do not have a major league SS, 2b or 1b on the roster

  • BronxMets

    Campbell is a AAAA player also

  • Charley’s Twin

    The funniest thing about Cerrone is he predicts 30 HR for Duda every single year. Now THAT’S a company man!

  • WillisReid

    When they are both right, they offer about the same.

  • mr1313

    Yeah Duda when he is “right” will hit 30 plus hr’s. That will never happen sorry.

  • WillisReid

    Might as well add LF to that list too the way CY has been playing.

  • 2rings

    agree…it means NOTHING..But it is NOT Duda’s fault he stinks. He just does. The fault lies with the awesome decision makers in the FO who think he is a major league ballplayer

  • Taskmaster4450

    Sorry but I am not down as much on Duda as other for the simple reason I think he has more talent than he showed. And why is this? My belief is that nobody is more messed up by Hudgeons than Duda and TdA. These are the two players who are lost at the plate. How can that happen? Well, Hudgeons has then afraid to swing.

  • Randolph Scott

    that’s two posts in two minutes from you asking “what does it mean” …….. you’d be perfect for a FO job 😉

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Duda is the only person in the Mets organization that believes in accountability.[Sandy should take a page out of that book.]

    Unfortunately for duda the whole world knows he is to blame.

    He did this crap all year….left the world on base…sucks w/RISP

  • Taskmaster4450

    Actually is Duda to blame?

    Or could it be that Hudgeons has his mind so messed up the guy doesnt know whether he is coming or going?

  • 2rings

    LF has been added. quite a list we have going.lol

  • WillisReid

    Davis isn’t a 30 HR guy either. 2012 was a fluke.

    I think both at their best was Ike’s 2011, and Duda’s 2012. 18-20 HR with about a .270 AVG and decent OBP.

  • Charley’s Twin

    So, who’s excited for Banner Day?

  • NewYorkMammoths
  • Charley’s Twin

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ten thumbs up.

  • WillisReid

    When you look at the issues this team has a month into the season, they seem to be playing over their heads.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I really hope that’s not true, since their current ‘over their heads’ pace is 90 losses.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Cohen.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Hey Hudgen sucks and he has screwed up a ton of players here with him and Sandys BPO hitting Philosophy, but he isnt the one holding the bat.

    Duda needs to man up and do what Murphy did and just play his game. Ike is gone what are they gonna do? Bench him?

    He is in the drivers seat. Go back to your old approach if you hit you will play just ask Murphy and Lagares.

  • 2rings

    it would be great if they did not censor all the good banners.
    they can have one designed like a milk carton with the Mets logo and the following :
    “Missing- Mets Offense”. or “Missing- Major league SS and 1b”

  • Charley’s Twin

    oh man, it would be so much fun if you could make a banner with your actual thoughts.

  • Nimmofan25

    Task you know if hitters struggle after a while they change their philosophy and mechanics at the plate. If Hudgens did mess with his head Duda went back to his philosophy a while ago. Players need to have accountability. It’s not always the coaches, the FO and anything else you wish to blame it on.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Hudgens and SANDY ALDERSON!!!

    Say it @taskmaster4450:disqus admit your GM has a major hand in screwing these kids up. I know you love the guy but lets be real

  • 2rings

    They need to have one in the parking lot before the actual one. Invite the press. It would be on all the morning shows tomorrow and ESPN.
    Best negatively pub we could hope for

  • mr1313

    Can say the same for any hitter including Ike when he was here.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    😀

    The NEW & IMPROVED STEVE JOBS!

    lol

  • WillisReid

    Colon, Wheeler, Duda and CY not playing very well, it could be worse.

  • Randolph Scott

    Mine would read: Roses are red, violets are blue, I’m a Mets fans and holy crap on a stick, I hate you Wilponzi’s, just sell the team and free us fans from your ineptitude because we deserve better !!!!

    it don’t rhyme, but I’m as incompetent with signs as the owners are with running a major league team.

  • mr1313

    Many pro athletes have talent but don’t have the mentality to utilize it.

  • rubagreta

    We don’t know that yet. Dillon Gee was called up the first time because there was nobody else to call up. He never was on the prospect list. And look what happened.

  • mr1313

    TC! You are Fired! We Want Wally!

  • ColoradoMetsFan

    That’s really the only recourse. You vote with your wallet…

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    1B is the least position you worry about defense.

    You always stick your WORST defender there.Its an offensive position(period).

  • Taskmaster4450

    I agree the hitting philosophy isnt working at the major league level.

    How many times have I stated that it is doing well with kids who know nothing else..ie. there professional career is under this philosophy. But to take guys who are major league players or knew other approaches in their professional careers, it isnt working.

    As for being real with Alderson, you seem to think I believe everything he does is right. You are incorrect. Ultimately, he is the guy who hires these people so it is all at his doorstep. You know I detest Collins and feel it is the biggest mistake that he made (twice). That is on Alderson. So is Hudgeons.

  • Same old Mets

    Again I ask, what are Hudgens credentials as a hitting instructor. He must work cheap or the Mets wouldn’t of hired him. He is useless just like Collins. I only watch the post game to see Collins make up shit as he goes along. If the Mets were a store, they would be out of business.

  • mr1313

    At least we can agree that both aren’t/weren’t the long term answer at 1B. I better not see Duda at 1B next season I’ll tell you that.

  • Mike B

    I think this is right and easy to fix, but not with an instructor who goes for this approach. The simple fix is to approach hitting like Ted Williams. Take a first AB fastball, then sit on fastballs. Duda does the opposite. He takes fastballs til he’s down in the count, then swings at anything. I don’t see how this changes until there’s a new instructor. Re going deep in the count, if you sit on fastballs and DON’T swing at breaking stuff til you have 2 strikes, then the AB’s possibly become like what we’re seeing with Wheeler pitching. Lots of deep counts. But not by taking fastballs, but by taking everything else, at least til 2 strikes. This is exactly what Williams did, and if a pitcher could throw breaking stuff for strikes, he had, as he put it, “a long day”. But lots of pitchers don’t throw breaking stuff for strikes. Whether the curve, slider, splitter, many pitchers are looking, like Wheeler, for hitters to chase.

  • Nimmofan25

    Off the topic, it’s nice to see our top prospects heating up. Nimmo, Cecchini, Smith, Boyd, Reynolds, Herrera, Puello and Plawecki. Also nice to see Cecchini, Nimmo, and Plawecki hitting for some pop. Especially Cecchini who’s hitting in that monster of a stadium in Savannah.

  • Nimmofan25

    You can have Wally I’ll take anyone outside the organization.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Like Ike?

    Funny how he starts hitting a few weeks after leaving the Mets.

    So was Ike unmanly when he was NYC?

  • mr1313

    Where’s the offense? I agree to a degree but I think it’s more important than we think.

  • mr1313

    I won’t be wrong about Wally we won’t get him because they are afraid to win with a coach like Wally. With that said I will take anyone other than TC.

  • John L

    The hitting approach doesn’t match what we have. I would let Wright, Granderson, and Duda be free swingers..turn’em loose. Murphy is going to hit anyway, and let everybody do their own thing to their strength/situation. Taking/waiting for your pitch is stupid when you give away strike 1 and 2. Any half ass pitcher with that count isn’t going to give you squat to swing at other than a mistake. Just let them do their own thing and let them have fun.

  • Nimmofan25

    We agree on the last part, I don’t want another manager that has been taught to preach what this manager is preaching.

  • MyasDaddy

    Well…tomorrow is Memorial Day. they say you are what you are on Memorial Day.

  • Nolrog

    I would be, if they allowed critical banners on the field.

  • Nimmofan25

    Yes I am a Mets fan but I hope they lose 75% of their games going forward. Daddy needs a top 5 pick next year!

  • MyasDaddy

    You going?

  • Charley’s Twin

    hell no hahah

  • 2rings

    Yep, and we are what we are AGAIN.
    I don’t want to post non baseball items, but I just want to say a big Thank You to all the Men and Women on this board and across the country, that are in the Military today, or have served in the past.

  • MyasDaddy

    Well, I have no kid. No work until Tuesday. If I leave now I can make it y the 3rd inning of the first game. I wish they gave me a reason too.

  • Hotstreak

    Now that DW stats are looking more normal and he can even homer (in a loss) we should revive “Met Player of the Week” and declare him the winner.

    I am sure some are outraged I am mocking him especially now.

    This is why we are still rebuilding and have rookies and veteran replacement players or out right FA bust on this team. True there are one or two other pros. DW all his supporters say can’t do it alone. Yes he can’t do it alone or with Grandy or Murphy unless all three are hot the same time. Since Murphy and DW are notoriausly streaky the odds are slim on that. Grandy and DW K a lot. 45% of payroll is those two guys.

    We never rebuilt the correct way or tried to contend even with a mid market payroll of 115 M where DW could be more effective. That is my gripe.

  • Nolrog

    I have a lot of respect for a guy who stands up and takes accountability. There hasn’t been enough of that with this organization top to bottom in the last few years.

  • MyasDaddy

    Absolutely, let’s not forget what the true meaning of this holiday is.

  • Nimmofan25

    I agree and said and still say they should trade DW. You can bring in a real nice haul from K.C right now.

  • Nolrog

    I already think he’s paid by the front office to come to this blog and defend them.

  • 2rings

    or Boston

  • Fast Eddie

    You know what would be great? If nobody showed up with banners on banner day. It’s that type of statement that would show the Wilpons just how fed up we are as fans. Maybe they could just call it “No banner day”…

  • MyasDaddy

    The only banner we need is the middle finger salute directed at the owners box. It would really send a statement.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Even though Duda hasn’t panned out, I don’t miss Ike.

  • Nimmofan25

    How about the Angels with Freese flopping the way he is.

  • Chris H

    Ike said its a lot easier just to play in Pittsburgh and not have to worry about the media and such. I can say I think Duda would be in the same category. Time to get a real 1st baseman who can succeed here.

  • Same old Mets

    I bought tickets through the Grant and Scheffing years but I’d rather stick pins in my eyes than buy a ticket that benefits the Wilpons.

  • MyasDaddy

    A beautiful day outside. A Doubleheader at Citi Field. And I would rather go golfing. Thanks Fred.

  • mr1313

    Duda would fit in a place like Minnesota/SD he doesn’t have the mental makeup for NY.

  • Chris H

    What’s the point of having a banner day if the fans can’t really express what’s on their minds. I don’t get it lol

  • BarnRat

    Same for me. Real question is would you also rather go to the dentist?

  • metsfan79

    I’m hoping the lucas Duda experiment is coming to an end. Chris Young I truly despise not only is he a bum but doesn’t show any effort. I’d 100% rather see the black hole eyj at least he’s max effort shit id rather see fat bobby Abreu then c.young

  • Same old Mets

    The Wilpons keep the team shitty so they lose money. That way they claim a huge loss at tax time. If not for that reason then they are just so f’n stupid.

  • Xavier 22

    You should do what you want in the short time you have left

  • MyasDaddy

    We definitely learned that from Chago.

  • MyasDaddy

    Haha. Dentist. No cavities here.

  • mr1313

    Exactly.

  • BronxMets

    saying blah blah to the press means NOTHING

  • BronxMets

    Gee wasn’t 27 with 7 years in the minors

  • BronxMets

    that was dumb

  • Nimmofan25

    There is nothing to defend, but the Grandy signing is looking better today then in April, the picks Sandy made are hitting and moving up through the system. The trade for Herrera is looking good as he is stroking the ball.
    I am not a Sandy Apologist he has made some huge mistakes but I won’t judge Sandy’s tenure just yet. His FA signings have been atrocious at best. Not until I see what these kids start doing in the majors.
    And about Duda if you can’t make adjustments then you shouldn’t be playing anyway. Does anyone remember who Hudgens was with before the Mets there was no problem there. No philosophy tells you to watch two straight fastballs down the middle.
    No philosophy tells you to take two strikes. C’mon guys your all smarter then this. This falls on the player.

  • Xavier 22

    If you would rather go to the dentist than go to a Mets game, you may want to reevaluate why you’re a Mets fan.

    Honestly, watching baseball is a form of entertainment. If watching the Mets is so painful to you, then you should stop watching.

  • BronxMets

    totally agree. The fact that SA hasn’t found a first baseman in 3 years is ridiculous.

  • Tommy

    Chris Young horrible & Lucas Duda horrible! Why wouldn’t the top notch manager we have running things bat them 5th & 6th respectively! I still say if EY is not in the lineup, put Chris Young lead off, because I think it will let him be selective & will get him to stop swinging for the fences & missing! Never saw anyone get so many fastballs down the middle (up in the zone) & swing right through them? Bat CY 1st, then have Lagares 5th behind Granderson! Duda can hit 6th! If that don’t work, they really gotta regulate him to a bench player & start Campell at 1B! Bottom line (counting last night’s game) they began a 14 game stretch of games against teams with the same record or worse! After those 14 games, if they are anything worse than 8-6 (preferably 9-5) they shouldn’t wait any longer………..they need to fire Terry Collins at that point!

  • KennyandtheMets

    Honestly. We haven’t had a true slugger at 1B since Delgado.

  • Nimmofan25

    Of course it means something, who else in this organization has done it?

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    No word on the PTBNL right? So its got to be someone they drafted last year… Please be Austin Meadows

  • Xavier 22

    We should stage an alternate banner day right near Citi. Would probably need a permit as I’m sure the Wilpons would call the cops

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol…no chance

  • Mario Gonzalez

    Or Reese Mcguire. Can’t have enough catchers.

  • Xavier 22

    They’re not going to trade The Captain so don’t waste brain power coming up with trade scenarios

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    If its Mcguire or meadows I will praise sandy for somehow pulling that off

  • dave27a

    Do it outside the SNY studios and get them on TV.

  • Nimmofan25

    Ya gotta believe! Lol

  • dave27a

    I think you mean Rochester or El Paso. Lucas Duda is not a major league baseball player.

  • Nimmofan25

    If Ryan and Seaver could be traded anyone can.

  • dave27a

    Duda has been here since 2010 and he’s been exactly the same player for every minute of it. Hudgens is screwing up a lot of players with his nonsense, but Duda just plain stinks.

  • ill_egl

    What the hell happened to chago? I noticed recently that he hasnt posted in a long time.

  • Mikey

    You know EVERYDAY could be banner day if the Fans who are upset would just make a banners and walk around outside the stadium and show their displeasure.
    And they can’t stop you from putting anything on those banners!

  • rubagreta

    Wright’s having a crappy year and is batting .307. We’re not even through May yet. If he gets it together, before you know it he’s hitting .325 and hitting lots of doubles and more home runs.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I like 1B CJ CRON and SS Jose Rondon but I dont think the Angels have good enough prospects to acquire Wright in a trade

  • dave27a

    Duda has been the same player since the moment he got here and will be the same player until someone mercifully makes him go away. To blame is Alderson who put us in position to run the same garbage out there we’ve been seeing for years.

    Funny, Duda is younger and cheaper than Ike and according to the Mets, has a better approach at the plate and more power potential (never mind that Ike has hit 32 homers in essentially half a season playing in CitiField)…yet it doesn’t seem anyone offered us more than a bucket of spit for Duda. Yet the Band of Geniuses in the front office was more than happy to settle for everyone’s second choice to save a few extra bucks and land some mystery prospect who won;t have a chance to help for 3 years.

    This, apparently is how a 90 win team operates. To date the only major league player acquired by Sandy Alderson or his 13 assistants during a season is Eric Young Jr., who had been DFA’d by a last place team. Simply staggering.

  • 2rings

    Not sure how old you are, but when I was a kid, almost EVERY Sunday was a double header, and even though the Mets were horrible, we would go and just sit in the beautiful weather and watch the games.
    Awesome memories

  • Chris H

    Yes true but the key is you would have to have some television camera out there recording what we say to get it out on espn and other sports shows.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    People would kill me and call me a Yankee fan if I said this

  • Mikey

    Lets remember that Duda is really just holding a place for Smith to get here.

  • Nimmofan25

    Look I’m not saying Wright is a bad player, I’m not saying Wright is finished. Wright has been a great player on and off the field for this team. Trading Wright helps this team more then hurts it.
    By the time this team is ready to win Wright and Granderson will both be on the decline which again will slow down this team from winning.

  • Nimmofan25

    What about Skaggs, Cron and Rondon? And if that’s not enough add Coulhon.

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Oh god don’t say that

  • MyasDaddy

    32, and I live 2 1/2 hours away. I wish they gave me a reason to go watch.

  • ill_egl

    While Ike seems to have found a much better hitting approach than he had here we forgot to mention a glaring issue with his stats. Ike has a total of two or three homeruns in about 120 abs with the pirates. Over the course of a full season thats a whopping 12 homeruns give or take. So many people on here kill guys like soup and satin and flores because they dont produce enough extra base hits, and cant be the answer at 1b because of their lack of power production. Well folks it seems thats what Ike has become at this point. Hes performing better than duda, yes, but neither of those two were clearly the answer at 1b. Good luck Ike. Time for Duda to either hit the bench and work on his pitch recognition (Stop being so overly patient!!) Or try to re-establish himself in Vegas. Either way its time to see what Dykstra can do here.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I actually felt like Duda was more aggressive with RISP at the start of this season. He was jumping on a lot of first pitch fastballs and it was working! I don’t get why he stopped. Is Hudgens THAT stupid?! Did he tell Duda to stop being aggressive when it was working?

  • dave27a

    Any 3rd grader who has seen more than 11 baseball games in his life would simply platoon EY and CY in left, and ride the hot hand in Campbell at first. But between Terry’s burgeoning senility and Sandy’s nonstop meddling, no one is capable of taking a step back and applying some common sense to the little talent that is on this roster.

    At least the offense is taking the attention from the inevitability that was a game being decided by an error by Wilmer Flores.

  • Mikey

    Not really….You see how touchy this front office is towards any bad publicity and criticism….

    They would react and while you yourself might not make the news the Mets response to it would!

  • Charley’s Twin

    Holding a place for a guy in Savannah who’s shown a little promise?that’s the mark of a 4th rate organization.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Ike was a basket case but figured things out when he was sent to work with Backman and Greer.

    He hardly played with us this year

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    guys tejada and Cy are starting

  • People should bring a folded banner with a harmless rah rah message on it for the approval process, whatever it is, and then unfold it with the Fire WIlpon/Sandy/Terry messages on it when they hit the field.

  • 2rings

    2 1/2 blocks away is too far these days. The owners have ruined it. Back in the day, the Mets just stunk, but there was not the animosity there is today

  • Charley’s Twin

    #theplan

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I want a bigger haul than that. I need at least 1 or 2 studs those guys arent studs….But I really like Cron big power and I think he can hit for high avg

  • dave27a

    Today is a doubleheader – everyone’s going to get at least one start.

  • Nimmofan25

    Yeah but you can move Skaggs for another bat.

  • KennyandtheMets

    What?! Smith is at least two years away.

  • MyasDaddy

    Ya know, I was never really the one who wants to lose. However, it was for the overall betterment of the team. No fans going equaling maybe new ownership. Which means a new regime. I can’t help but want it.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol…no chance

  • dave27a

    Smith has shown little promise? Come on man.

    The problem is he won’t be here for 3-4 years. Finding a real 1B for the next several seasons won’t exactly amount to blocking him…

  • Xavier 22

    Ryan had not become the HOF pitcher he is when he was traded. Donald Grant didn’t like Seaver. The Wilpons have anointed Wright the family friendly face of the franchise. He won’t get traded.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Thats the problem….Sandy ASSUMING prospects will live up to expectations rather than put the best team on the field and if Dom works out you have an embarrassment of riches and can trade and acquire more younger talent

  • Charley’s Twin

    “a little,” is what I wrote, not “little.” He’s done well in A ball. Big deal. Pinning your hopes on someone like that is insane.

  • Nimmofan25

    It’s the only way to truly get it done, you’ll also open the eyes of MLB who are already worried about ownership. Maybe we’ll get a clean sweep of the FO and coaching staff. To go with a very good pick. Can’t lose for losing.

  • Nimmofan25

    Ryan was still a very good pitcher who people knew would only get better.

  • dave27a

    Agreed – it’s insane because he’s years away regardless. Are we going to keep treading water with garbage until he arrives? Unfortunately, yes. And the Hudge will probably still be here to ruin him when he arrives.

  • SCarton12

    IDK, maybe he should stand on 2nd base, after the game, and flog himself? would that satisfy you?

  • dave27a

    …and let’s not forget that in addition to Duda’s predictable inability to hit in key situations, the winning run yesterday was set up by a Flores error.

  • Charley’s Twin

    this front office has actually convinced some fans that throwing full seasons while we wait for guys on the farm is an acceptable strategy.

  • dave27a

    In addition to giving the same sub-standard players 3-4 years to keep proving they don’t belong.

    My formative years as a Mets fan were the early 80s – this reminds me of then, seeing the same scrubs back every year with no accountability – Giles, Gardenhire, Youngblood, Bailor….

  • MyasDaddy

    I don’t like to lose. I hate it actually.

  • ill_egl

    You do realize that Tejada has made a number of errors that have directly lead to runs for the opposing team, right? So flores makes one pivitol mistake in a game playing a position hes in the process of relearning after abandoning it years ago and thats a justifiable reason to sit him the following game? You know what makes guys better at a given position? Repetiton. Consistent opportunities. Comfort. None of those have been alotted for flores here.

    Aside from that we absolutely can not have two early twenty year old players who are showing promise play both games of a double header! Thats insane and theyll have to take the rest of the week off to recover.

  • mr1313

    He posted this week in one of the threads. He mentioned he wrote up another fan shot.

  • BronxMets

    that was dumb

  • Charley’s Twin

    I’m too young for M Donald Grant era…in your opinion, is the post-Madoff era better, worse, the same?

  • BarnRat

    Good advice, I’m not going to

  • Nimmofan25

    Do you really believe that Sandy is waiting on Smith who at best is 3 years away? Duda has no connection in any way to Smith Dude was handed the job this year if he doesn’t produce then there will be someone else manning 1st next year.

  • Anthony

    Equally inept

  • Charley’s Twin

    That’s what it seems like, although the modern embarrassment might last longer.

  • Nimmofan25

    They are giving Duda his chance they have removed all obstacles and excuses Duda could have not to produce. If he doesn’t produce the Mets will have a starting first baseman by next season.

  • Anthony

    The mets were bad from 74 to 83 that was pretty long

  • Anthony

    I appreciate him taking responsibility now pull up some pine

  • Nimmofan25

    It’s going to be one of the pitchers. This whole offseason Sandy was pushing for pitching in a deal so don’t expect different.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Id rather use Smith as part of a trade for Goldschmidt.

  • Charley’s Twin

    6 years and going strong right now.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    One of the problems with the hitting philosophy is that it’s a one-size-fits-all proposition, and it’s not always the best idea. Forget the valid concept that different hitters prosper with different approaches. In an RBI situation it PAYS to be a little aggressive. Instead of hunting that strike, hunt that pitch you can drive to the outfield for a sac fly, or hit on the ground to the right side to get a run in with the infield back. In the last 2 completed games there have been at least 3 situations when they failed to get the run in from 3B with less than 2 outs. Of course, 2 of them were CY at bats, which complicates things even more, since he sucks right now (if not all the time). But you have to adjust your game plan to fit the circumstances, and they’re either being told not to do that or someone like Duda isn’t good enough to make that adjustment when it counts.

  • Nimmofan25

    The only thing that will force ownership to sell is little to no butt’s filling the seats. It’s the only thing that will hit them where they already hurt.

  • Nimmofan25

    So would every Mets fan just not the Diamondbacks.

  • IndianaMet

    Enough with the Ike Davis crap. He platoons only, has zero power and has no power, save for a few doubles. He would never turn it around in NY. Duda is just as bad. Somebody suggested Kendrys Morales. If we want to finish anywhere but the basement, he must be signed. We will know the front office is serious about winning if he is signed within a week. I’m not holding my breath.

  • Nimmofan25

    While you are correct a player does not need to follow the philosophy. If they are aggressive and drive in the run I don’t see Terry and Hudgens bending them over their lap and spanking them. So it really is on the player.

  • Nimmofan25

    And what good does signing Morales do? The only thing he does is win you maybe 5 more games. So you loose draft position like they did last year. If they were close to making the playoffs then sure why not but they aren’t.

  • IndianaMet

    So I take it that your plan is to lose as many games as possible to keep a high draft pick? And that draft pick will make the majors 4 or 5 years from now? Or did I misinterpret your response?

  • Captain America

    Based on your opinion?

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    The timing for Duda’s slump could not be any worse as Davis comes in tomorrow with a .295 AVG in 31 games for the Pirates and all the media will be talking about is whether the Mets made the right decision.

  • Nimmofan25

    Either way aren’t you doing that your just ending up with a worse draft pick if you sign Morales. Trade for Cron much better fit in what they are trying to do. I’d also look into trading for Profar yes he is hurt but to throw this season grab a top 5 pick and add Harvey, Cron, and Profar into your lineup next year you would be vastly improved.

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    I’m glad Duda took responsibility, not only because it shows accountability for him, but hopefully the accountability will spread to the rest of the team. TC is the worst culprit, blaming the anemic offense on just about everything except the talent level of the batter in the box.

  • ltorres14

    See Lagares benching for reference.

  • Nimmofan25

    Bad reference since Juan was producing and following the Philosophy.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    How you figure? Smith becomes their best positional prospect by far and will shoot through their system with the sorry depth they have. Give them a ML starter, a catcher and a top 10 SP prospect as well.

  • IndianaMet

    That sounds good but who would we give up for Cron and Profar? I think Thor for Cron straight up would work but that’s crazy on our part.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    “…they’re either being told not to do that or someone like Duda isn’t good enough to make that adjustment when it counts”

  • Matlack

    Ryan threatened to retire at the time if not traded, and the beat writers say he meant it.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Gives protection to whoever bats ahead of him, Makes more productive outs (only 114 Ks in 657 AB last year). if he makes the players around him better the domino effect could mean more than 5 wins. Gives them more credibility so that maybe another team’s player is willing to waive a no-trade clause and come here later in the year as a reinforcement.

  • owlnut

    Ike’s 30 homers were his career year. It will not happen again. He needed to leave NY because being in the bars at 3am couldn’t help him on the field.

  • owlnut

    Dream on. No money will be spent for a decent player.

  • owlnut

    But he did hit a home run with someone on base. Possibly the first or second time he did. Most of his rare homers are with no one on base.

  • owlnut

    Kevin Burkhardt has had enough. Moving to Fox and is very excited about it. In a conversation I had with him a few days ago, he didn’t actually say anything bad about the Mets since he is still in their employ, but intimated that he was thrilled to be leaving.

  • AAAA/metsfan

    bring up dykstra use campbell every day lf/rf platoon at 1st unless dykstra is hitting RH /LH hot. and sub at 2b+3b. . bring back brown +lutz .. AAA tejada cut c.young. eat the money or trade LOL. cut/designate/trade Duda. lineup lagares cf,murphy 2b, wright 3b, grandy rf, campbell lf, dykstra 1b, flores ss, recker/centeno c. bench brown,EYJ ,lutz,

  • billpulsipher

    Duda is garbage. Another Sandy failure…Abreu leads the world in HR and RBI and Ike is hitting .300

  • MetsWatchman

    It’s gotten to the point now where opposing pitchers are grooving the first pitch to Duda. And he has yet to adjust. He needs to start some first pitch swinging. Ugh…..very frustrating watching him look at theses pitches over the plate in his wheelhouse.

  • Mikey

    Ownership is not the problem…
    They aren’t the ones who though CYoung was worth 7.5M or Colon was worth what he got!
    They also were not the ones to turn their nose up at 2.5M for Hawkins!
    Or told Sandy to IGNORE every position Sandy claimed was a priority going into the offseason.

  • Mikey

    No his plan is Sandy’s plan….Suck as much as possible to get better draft position!

  • Mikey

    You ready to trade Syndergaard as well because thats probably what it takes…

    I’ll wait for Smith…It’s going to take the next GM at least two years to fix the rest of this team anyway!

  • Mikey

    Well why shouldn’t he? He’s a frikken Genius don’t ya know! LOL

    Smith may be one of the few times he hit in the draft for us…
    And thats mostly because it was a top 11 pick which you really have to work at to screw up!

    Unfortunately the one thing Sandy DOES have is a work ethic in that regard!

  • EzRider

    They made the wrong decision in thinking either of them were the right choice. Like i’ve said all along. Ike has talent he just wasn’t going to perform here under these conditions. Duda is junk.

    But cudos to him for taking responsibility for the game. Some other need to step up for these losses though. The Wilpons for not doing what they said and increase the payroll thus giving Sandy the 90-100 million dollar payroll needed to be competative. Then Sandy needs to take the blame for being so stubborn and not fixing the roster. If he got a 1B and SS we could have lived with CY/Colon/d’Arnaud.

    I like Flores but he is not a SS.

  • Mikey

    Funny you are waiting for Nimmo who is probably MORE than 3 years away at his present rate through the system.

  • Mikey

    By jove I think you’ve got it!

  • rubagreta

    If the GM’s have the same perception of Wright as you have, we’re not getting much back. An $18 million dollar man beginning the back-end of his career. Right now the issues are 1B, SS, LF and C. Pitching, despite its flaws, is fine and can only get better. Looks like Grandy has come around. And Campbell could be the perfect bench player. If we only had the 15th best 1B, SS, LF and C in the majors, we would be in 1st place. And Campbell could be the perfect bench player.

  • Hotstreak

    YOU DISREGARED MY ORIGINAL POST:

  • Hotstreak

    “Right now the issues are 1B, SS, LF and C”

    DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A CONTENDING TEAM TO ME. EVEN WITH WRIGHT.

    we are a rebuilding team and not contending until Wright is 33 at the earliest. After 35 when Wright SUPPOSE TO DECLINE WILL BE TOO LATE for this team.

  • metsman

    Duda walks up to the deftones…nothing else matters!!!

  • SCarton12

    The guy admitted he stunk it up and that wasn’t good enough for you. He frustrates me too, but what else can he say?

  • AAAA/metsfan

    i dont want to live with cyoung, d’arnaud , colon etc. when there are better options in the met system .

  • Xavier 22

    Nolan Ryan became an outstanding pitcher who had his best years after he left the Mets. He wanted out of New York and had two consecutive so-so seasons with a climbing ERA. Both he and Seaver had extenuating circumstances which led to them being traded. My point is Wright does not have any of those issues and will not be traded.

  • mets4lyfe

    Look, I’ll be the first to admit that I’m a huge Duda fan. Heck, I’ve been rooting for this guy ever since the Mets drafted him hoping someday he’ll be able to harness his inate power. I remember how ectstatic I was when Duda finally starting showing the complete package as a power lefty bat in 2010.Unfortunately, the Duda you see now isn’t close to what I recall reading and seeing back in 2010 and 2011. The more he’s been around the influence of Alderson, the more I’ve seen him regress as a hitter.

    Basically, Duda’s become a timid hitter who looks like he’s afraid to fail. Just look at his numbers from 2011 and compare them to his current numbers – swings less, makes less contact, makes less contact in the strike-zone, and his whiffs are significantly up. He doesn’t know what to do anymore up at the batter’s box because he’s caught in-between his own hitting philsophy and Alderson’s hitting philosophy. Moreover, the plate discipline he was renowed for back in the minors and 2011 is not there anymore. Duda’s more of a guess hitter now rather than a hitter that shows great plate discipline.

    I think it’s best he gets traded somewhere else because I don’t see him succeeding with the Mets.

  • BronxMets

    so what is hew doing to improve?

  • Mike

    This guy is so terrible I can’t believe they chose him over Davis. Probably a money reason duda earns 1.7 mm Ike earns 3.5mm….the Wilpons are a disgrace!

  • Mike

    Ike has zero power? He has 70 hrs in his career. Duda is platooning too btw what has he played 4 gms against lhp? And even that is a crime he can’t hit lefties at all. Ike is def better than duda in every way… they traded the wrong guy.

  • Chas1963

    The only way The Mets will improve their offensive woes barring a possible trade is benching Tejada , Duda , and Chris Young ! We need Flores , Campbell , and even Eric Young Jr in there most of the time along with Grandy ,Wright, Murphy, and Lagares to give us our best chance to win. Also would like TC to be a little more creative with his lineups when they are struggling . The other thing that is killing them is when Chris Young is in there which is been unfortunately almost everyday TC continues to bat him 4th or 5th and that keeps killing their rallies . As I am typing if you can believe it , The Mets start the game with 3 straight singles tying the game 1-1 but after Grandy whiffs , of course Chris Young pops up to catcher and Duda hits a five foot dribbler to end any chance of a big inning ! Great job Terry , Duda , and C. Young .

  • Easy Lucas. We expected as much. Richie, I guess did not.

  • Ohhhhh – you had me right up until you said EYjr. I’d rather see ANY minor league outfielder than EYjr. He’s a 0.5 tool player.

  • I LOVE to bash on Duda, but how did he get up with runners on and 2 outs so many times? Simple, because NOBODY on this team can drive in a runner from third with 1 or NO outs. NOBODY. Sandy says that there are NO productive outs. Well if they had 3 productive outs ahead of Duda, A. They would have actual runs on the board and B. Duda would not have had runners to strand.
    2 out hits are REALLY hard to get. Hitting a weak grounder to 2nd or Short should not be impossible as this team makes it.

  • Davis is batting .303 (30-for-99) with two homers and 11 RBIs since the April 18 trade. He arrives on a six-game hitting streak, during which he is 10-for-23 with a homer and four RBIs.

    “Really, it takes a while during the season to find a groove, and I’m usually pretty decent once I do find it,” Davis told Pirates.com. “Usually it takes me a little longer. I found it earlier this year.”

    Lucas Duda, by contrast, is hitting .208 (20-for-96) with two homers and 11 RBIs since April 18.

  • but he wasnt following the philosophy of walking.

  • so are we concerned with wright’s 4 HR’s in 180 AB’s yet ?