Collins Going With Tejada, Flores Will Stay On Bench

ruben tejada

UPDATE:

Terry Collins went back on what he told reporters last night and again earlier today, and just announced that Ruben Tejada will start at shortstop tonight and NOT Wilmer Flores.

Flores is not sick. More in the game notes.

Original Post

Things have been going pretty good the last couple of days.  After losing five games in a row, the Mets have now won three straight including the first two games of the Subway Series.  They have scored 26 runs during the current 3-game streak which is just five less than the first nine games of the month.

It has been refreshing to see some offense, which brings us to the realization that it has been there the entire time.  Why is it showing up all of a sudden?  Is it here to stay or is this something that will show its face for a few then disappear?  Some would say that the opponent has something to do about it.  Who wouldn’t want to travel to the Bronx and put a whooping on the Yankees?  Some could say that certain players don’t feel that their job is safe anymore due to the flurry of roster moves over the last week.  Which brings me to the point of this post.

Ruben Tejada was handed the starting shortstop job over when Jose Reyes departed for Miami.  Things haven’t really gone according to plan which have led the Mets to discuss other possible options.  Names like Stephen Drew and Nick Franklin have been tossed around as players to sign or trade for.  Names within the organization have been discussed with no movement on it until recently.  Tejada has flashed some leather making some outstanding plays in the field.  Unfortunately the bat hasn’t come around as quickly as everyone had hoped.  Prior to May 9th, Tejada was hitting just .183 on the season.  He was 0-for-May and was showing no signs of that changing.

Insert Wilmer Flores.  Flores was tearing things up in Las Vegas for the 51’s.  In 29 games he was hitting .307 with five home runs and 25 RBI.  The Mets made the move to promote him from Triple-A on May 9th and planned to hand the starting job over to him.  Unfortunately for Flores, the moved had to wait due to an illness so the job again went back to Tejada.  In the three games he has appeared in so far he has gone 2-for-12 which isn’t a big enough sample size to see if the move made sense.

If the sole purpose of calling up Flores was to give him the starting shortstop position, the decision should be easy for Terry Collins now that Flores is healthy again right?  Probably not.  With the job his again (for the time being), Tejada has done nothing except hit.  During the current Mets win streak, Tejada is 4-for-12 with two doubles, two RBI, and two runs scored, which was the most production out of him since late April.

Some might say that Tejada lacks the work ethic and desire to excel at the major league level.  He has given the appearance perhaps of not trying as hard because he was handed a job he didn’t necessarily have to fight for out of spring training.  Now with his back against the wall and Flores breathing down his neck, we are seeing what he is actually capable of. Is it a coincidence?

“He’s hit it square, he’s hit it hard,” Terry Collins. “He’s played very, very hard defensively. Again, I don’t know the reason necessarily why, except the perception would be he got a wake-up call. And sometimes that makes a big difference.”

“The only thing you can assume — and you could be wrong — is Wilmer came in and all of a sudden he lost his job and he said I got to win it back. Maybe he got focused.”

So the question is this.  Has Ruben Tejada finally put it all together, or is it merely a case of fighting for his life?  Would you sacrifice Tejada’s defense for Flores’ bat?

Whatever the answer, Flores is feeling better and will be back at short tonight.

MMO

  • Em

    I don’t want to see any part of Tejeda besides maybe a late game defensive replacement and the occasional day off for Flores, that’s about it. Shouldn’t even be a question.

  • depressed Mets fan

    If it took for him to lose his job to someone that isnt even a SS to finally get his head out of his ass and play hard he doesn’t deserve to be on this team. We’re not talking about a star but someone that is a marginal talent to begin with.

  • Hotstreak

    You forget to add to pinch hit with bases loaded.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    How many starts before we declare Flores not a SS and move on?

  • El PanchVilla

    We can’t be enamored by a couple of days of good play. Flores needs to get a shot.

  • muskytoes

    It was decided long ago that Flores is not a SS. We’re just doing things the hard way, as usual.

  • Joe

    You seem to have a problem with fans criticizing players.

    We are all hoping Flores does well man. but hell, if he proves he isn’t what he’s cracked up to be we move on.

  • SinHalo27

    Tejada shouldn’t have even started the year at SS- should have been and should still be Flores as starting SS. This is not a better team with Tejada in particular as a starter. Late inning defensive replacement, give Flores a breath or drop down a bunt or pinch run occassionally. Just look at Tovar, profiles as same type of player, but spending his 3rd season in AA hitting .333BA/.381OBP with only 5 K’s in 105 PAs and very very hungry, not in the same way was as Tejada though. 😛 If you wanted an all field/no hit SS then Tovar should have been the guy…or rather as previously stated…Flores should be the guy. LGM!

  • Martin

    Flores is not a ss in the same way murph is not a 2b. It will be fine.

  • El PanchVilla

    I like what you did there…

  • Joe

    Like, you were questioning fans for being mad at the fact that Terry pulled Gee with 81 pitches against Philadelphia.

    Why would you even question fans for being mad at that?

  • muskytoes

    Maybe Flores is not a SS in the way Murph is not a LF. It’ll be bad. We just don’t know how bad. He was on a 40+ error pace at Vegas. That was deemed good enough, I guess. If he hits like Honus Wagner, then maybe it is.

  • Em

    Only for the pitcher

  • CJM

    And Andrew Brown was on 162 HR pace after game one of the season.

  • BCleveland3381

    Honestly, it should have been neither guy. Sandy said SS was the biggest need going into the offseason and he should have addressed it, not ignored it. Now our options are Tejada or a guy with a promising but unproven bat, and minus glove. SS should have been fixed from outside the organization one way or another.

  • All I will say about the recent offensive explosion is “It’s Yankee Bandbox Stadium” All we can do is pray it carriers over to Citifield but, it wont. Several of the homers hit at Yankee stadium would be outs at citifield. As far as Flores goes, he needs to be put in the line up and left there. He deserves his shot.

  • willymayshayes

    I really like Flores’ Bat, I wish 3B was open for him, because that is where he plays best.

    Tejada should be our SS if he can continue to hit like he did the yr before last AND the yr before that.

  • metstastic

    How does this make any sense? 2-12 is not a big enough sample size and 4-12 is?

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    2-12 bothers me because in that was the 0 for 4 on opening day. He only played two games since latest promotion.

  • BCleveland3381

    Im still worried he’ll be shipped over to 2B once Murphy is traded. Ive always loved Murphy, but he’s starting to make too much for this organization. If we fall out of contention at the deadline, they will look to move him.

  • Martin

    Good athletes can learn to play defense almost anywhere. And Flores has played ss his whole life. He will be fine. The bat plays, and at ss, his value is huge.

    90 wins here we come.

  • tacknaf

    agree 100% .. it’s time to see what we have with Flores. I’m not going to take anything away from three games except that Nuno stinks and the Yankee and Phillies bullpens both suck.

  • metstastic

    There are no other current options.

  • tacknaf

    36

  • Agee’s Catch

    20

  • SinHalo27

    Considering what there is in house- maybe. I just do not see Drew doing well here and the 2 seasons prior to last year were ones with injuries. If Lowrie was reasonably made available perhaps. Acquiring someone like Owings, Gregorious, Franklin isn’t much different than giving the reigns to Flores/Muno/someone internally not named Tejada but at much more of a cost than losing a few games in 2014.

  • CJM

    They should give Tejada an extension.

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    There was a report that had listed some guys who were actually ‘defensive shortstops’ that made more errors during that time than Wilmer. Also, Wilmer had the most chances and most turned double plays by ss in AAA. So, can we just give it a shot and see what happens. It is not like Rubin is a great defender, everyone makes it seem like he is AMAZING. Sacrificing defense for offense. Wasn’t Rubin one of the worst defensive players [statistically] before Wilmer’s call up?

  • metsman

    It’s so ridiculous to make these armchair assumptions about what’s going on in Tejada’s mind. This kid gets crapped on constantly with all these snipes about his work ethic and character and it’s all trash talk. He’s small and slow and doesn’t have any power so he makes an easy target.

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    5 yr 50 mill at least

  • WillisReid

    I think Gregorious is the one that can be had for the most reasonable cost to the Mets. And he’s probably the best glove of all the names mentioned above.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    (I’m assuming this is going to become the game thread)..anyway, I say tonight lets see:
    -Montero get his first career win
    -Tanaka get his first career loss
    -A Mets pitcher getting a hit for the first time this season..Ya know what, lets make that an XBH! End that streak emphatically!

  • Agee’s Catch

    Murphy won’t be traded. He’s not going to be that 20M a year guy, so he should remain affordable. Even Fred would recognize a trade as a huge PR blunder.

    If Flores hits better than Duda, then that is most likely his destination.

  • Em

    Flores has the ability to hit for power, something Tejeda will never have. We know what the ceiling for Tejeda is, which isn’t much.

  • lostinqueens

    Tulo should be our SS

  • SinHalo27

    Makes sense seeing AZ has a surplus (as well as SEA but they seem to overvalue theirs). Getting someone like Gregorious, Owings, Franklin though sort of solves this long term and the long term solution is within- Evans, Cecchini, Rosario- unless they’re looking to deal from a strength (like SPs) but then again- I feel situations such as that can lead to the 1B conundrum experienced earlier… 3 guys for 1 spot

  • omar minayass

    he’s small and slow and doesn’t have any power. he doesn’t belong on a major league roster. period.

  • omar minayass

    i’m sorry but ruben tejada is not a major leaguer. if you don’t have power, you really should have speed. if you don’t have power & speed, you should really have a solid glove.

    what is the fascination with this guy? he’s a punchline in the comedy routine that is the new york mets.

  • billpulsipher

    Gee on the DL lol…and so it begins…valverde and farnsworth not going anywhere

  • WillisReid

    Seattle’s starting SS is batting at Tejada levels, yet Franklin is playing 2B in AAA. Sounds too much like the Mets situation to be worth giving up players to get Franklin.

    AZ made their choice in Owings, and I can’t see why they’d move on from his this early to go with Gregorious.

  • Metropolitan

    Lets not be fooled here by Tejada

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    None of us are. Just TC, which is the real problem.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Hoping it’s nothing too serious, and as upsetting as it is to hear the breaking news of Gee going on the 15 day DL, you gotta love the idea of Montero and deGrom making their ML debut starts back to back.

  • RyanF55

    I guess he wasn’t feeling too threatened by Quintanilla’s presence…I guess a certain Flores lit a fire under his rear

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    I’d love to see Vic Black come up for one of them…the dude has 17 K in 15 2/3 IP, and only allowed 12 hits and 0 HR…but unfortunately he’s also walked 15…dude’s gotta show better control if he wants to be up here.

  • Mike

    This infuriates me to no end….Ruben has had two yrs to get going but now that he got a few hits against awful pitching he’s deserved his job back? Flores has tore up the minors the last three yrs all while being one of the youngest players each yr in that respective league. He needs to play everyday while up here. We know what Ruben is…a bench player

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    “Ruben Tejada is a can’t miss player”

    -Terry Collins

  • Macdaddy

    I’m puzzled to say the least…and frankly with this current win streak I am dubious at best about the results. The problme for me is less about Ruben and more about the Coaching Staff. In some ways the Mets, as a team, are winning in spite of the poor coahcing. Thus these wins distort the real issue…give this a week and reality will come back to the table.

  • mr. belvedere

    Anyone know what the roster move was for Montero yet

  • Charley’s Twin

    and that is why most people can’t stand Tejada. He is LAZY.

  • Nmartz

    DeGrom will pitch tomorrow.

  • Macdaddy

    Control, as relief pitcher, is an essential.

  • Macdaddy

    I suggest in lieu of an extension…the prefex of ext should be used in the word “extended”…as in an extended vacation or an extended stay in the minors.

  • TheMets philosophy

    There is no move Gee was put on the DL and degrom will be starting 2mrw

  • billpulsipher

    at least another 3 weeks of valverde and farnsworth….YES

  • Macdaddy

    The problem with Ruben is twofold…one he plays for the Mets (thus whatever shot he had the organization has seen fit to screw that up) and the other is…Ruben himself. He’s young, cast in a role way ahead of his ability or maturity, and now he has to find that thing that will make him an above league average SS. Oh and rely upon the advice and insight of this coaching staff to make that happen. Ahh…he’s screwed.

  • Metropolitan

    down goes Gee..damn

  • muskytoes

    Montero going on 5 days rest. deGrom on 8.

  • BCleveland3381

    Murphy makes 5.7 this year with one year of arb remaining before free agency. Another good raise is likely and then he’s probably going to be around a 10-12 mil a year player in free agency. Well worth what Murphy gives us offensively. But on a team that isn’t likely to spend more than 80 mil on payroll, can we afford to have Grandy, Wright, and Murphy making more than 50% of our payroll? Niese’s contract will call for a raise, as will arbitration dollars for Tejada, Duda, Gee, etc. It’s not as easy to squeeze everyone in as you might think. We are hamstrung by our ownership if they don’t raise payroll.

  • derek murphy

    Tejada is a lazy bum. He cried about loosing his job when he wasnt even hitting 200. Then he remembers how to have a quality at bat. Hes the worst kind of player cause he had no heart. He don’t care he’s letting down his team with his pathetic effort on a daily basis. Take away his job and he will put in effort. That’s why TC n SA hat him cause he dont put in any effort.

    Flores is a major league hitter. He takes pride in his game went to mich and busted his a$$ to try and get in good enough shape to play SS. He like Murphy before him was bounced position to position and tried anything and everything asked of him to try and get in the line up. Id much rather have Flores on my team he takes pride in his game and tries to be the best player possible. His drive is internal his motivation is to be the best. Tejada has no drive.

  • Macdaddy

    Just wanted to brag a bit today…but my oldest plays Fast Pitch Softball at the 16U level…went 4 for 5 with 3 HR’s and 10 RBI’s and threw in a double…just for kicks. Then my little guy went 5 for 5 and 4 RBI’s, pitched 2 Shut Out innings and caught 3 innings and threw a kid out at 2nd & 3rd. And most of all I got to see it all…yeah old man had a proud day on Monday.

  • TheMets philosophy

    Well no when Germen comes back one of those will be cut and same for gee hopefully hell be back in 15 days

  • derek murphy

    Tejada is a lazy bum

  • NewYorkMammoths

    At least it’s not his elbow!

  • BCleveland3381

    Gregorius is a good glove, but he stinks offensively. Look at his last year’s splits. He severely declined every month he was with the DBacks and always been a guy that would be carried by his glove. I doubt he’ll hit much. If that’s the case, Id rather keep our assets and just give a guy like Tovar the job.

  • mr. belvedere

    What’s injured?

  • BCleveland3381

    Congrats man. I have two young boys, both under 3. I won’t push them(too much, anyway) to play baseball, but living in Syracuse baseball is a dying sport up here. Even when I made my high school baseball team as a freshman in ’95, we had 120 kids trying out for the two teams(varsity and JV). Now, they have to combine two Syracuse city schools to get enough kids for a team. Chances are my kids play lacrosse, but I’ll try to push them in the right direction, lol.

  • since68

    I thought the reason Flores was moved off of SS was because Reyes was blocking him and Havens wasn’t working out due to health?
    Back then I never remember hearing it was because Flores could not handle SS.

  • TheMets philosophy

    So much for Flores starting today! AdamRubin has Tejada in his line up!!

  • since68

    And no Lagares again. This is nuts!!!!

  • muskytoes

    My son’s in the 10 yo Pony League (Mustang). He’s been plunked 3 times already, and now he’s the kid who’s afraid to swing and bails out of the box on anything thrown on the inner half of the plate. He does have a high OBP with walks and HBP (and is very “toolsy”), so I’m hoping Sandy and DePo stay with the Mets for another decade and draft my son. I’d even be willing to move the family to Wyoming if that helps.

  • Mike

    I don’t think the mets screwed him up? He has been hitting mostly eighth in his career, not exactly high pressure spot and he’s been given every opportunity to succeed he’s just not very talented, time to move on….please!

  • TheMets philosophy

    Strained Lat muscle

  • BCleveland3381

    Dice K saved us last night eating up some innings. Hopefully he gets the next 2 games off. The bullpen is actually in pretty good shape. Carlos Torres has thrown only 5 pitches since May 10th, so he could be up for a few innings today if Montero doesn’t go deep in the game. We could have been in worse shape after two games in the Bronx.

  • Peter S

    4 for 12 is putting it all together? Lol

  • WillisReid

    Agree. I also think that a guy like Franklin presents the same problems as Flores defensively, and Owings would cost too much talent.

    My prefence would be to give Flores a few weeks of playing everday then make a determination if this current configuration could work, then check in on Drew.

  • Macdaddy

    Thanks…I was very proud to say the least. My oldest has played travel softball since she was about 6 and my little guy has been doing baseball since he was 5. Although having coached both of them they now play travel ball and I occassionally get the chance to see them play. Honestly, I was flored by my daughters performance, my wife goes to all there games and she said they have been playing well…but 3 jacks was a surprise.

  • derek murphy

    Montero beating tanaka would be the cherry on top that’s what I’ve been saying but with DeGrom starting now also this could be a big boom or bust. Hopefully Montero goes deep wins and there’s no worries but with dice k having pitched yesterday if they have a lot of innings to fill it could create a problem. Torres I’d be reluctant to use for more than 2. Basicly Montero is going out tonight without a safety net. That being said I look forward to watching him shut down the Yankees tonight and getting the first hit for a met starter. Montero or DeGrom will get the first hit for the mets.

  • billpulsipher

    Lagares and Flores back to the bench….EY has 2 good games=goodbye Lagares

  • TheMets philosophy

    Is gee’s injury considered serious?

  • billpulsipher

    the bullpen will be in good shape the day i hear “kyle farnsworth has been designated for assignment” “jose valverde has been released”…until then…

  • Macdaddy

    The key is to know if it is the right or left latissimus…my initial gut reaction is that he injured himself in an at bat…then aggrevated it a bit while pitching and now he needs to rest. Give him a couple of weeks and he should be fine. His last start was the 10th…so he should be ready by the 30th. Good news it’s not his arm or shoulder.

  • Macdaddy

    Dice is doing what they need him to do…versus coming in for situational reasons. He’s not that kind of guy and he walks too many people to be anything more than middle relief or a guy who comes in to provide long relief. If he can accept and adust to this role, he’s an asset, if not…nice knowing you.

  • IndianaMet

    No Lagares and no Flores tonight. TC, please stop talking, or better yet, go away.

  • Macdaddy

    No…absolutely not.

  • Nmartz

    Is not too much time ? It makes me worry.

  • Macdaddy

    Playing Devils Advocate here…but they are playing the Yankees again so why not role with EY who has had a hot hand. Not that I like the thought process that TC comes up with usually, but so often he fails to go with the hot hand that I can take this one. If EY cools down after 3 AB’s then bring in Lagares as a defensive switch.

  • Tommy

    GOD I HATE TERRY COLLINS! HATE HIM! HE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO RUIN THE KID’S CONFIDENCE! Why can’t Alderson step in in situations like this! I don’t care if it is considered overstepping his bounds? Why have Flores here? Send him down to triple A then so he can swing the bat! And not having Lagares in there is just dumb! Sit CY, if you want EY in so bad for 1 day! Stop F’ING WITH OUR FUTURE COLLINS! I don’t care if they win 20 in a row, I want that tool gone!

  • metsman

    I think you’re wrong. Period.

  • muskytoes

    It’s not ideal for deGrom, and to top it off, he’s coming off his worst outing of the year (5 IP, 10 H, 4 ER). Montero’s set up perfectly and coming off 5.1 IP of no hit ball. But baseball’s funny. Hopefully it works out perfectly for both kids in their debuts.

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    In Terry’s and Met land. Its pathetic how low these expectations are. If he goes 1 for 4 he is in tom again. Plus, since he is the second coming of Ordonez, he will play tom bc DeGrom is groundball pitcher. Terry is pathetic.

  • TheMetsMachine

    Blaming EYJ for Chris Young taking Center over Lagares? How low can we go? Clearly Chris Young is starting over Lagares.

    EY is in there as the lead off guy which he has earned – the guy has scored 28 runs on 28 hits…I don’t care if he is hitting .245, do you know why? He has scored as many runs as the guy with 49 hits, that’s what makes EYJ good. I’ll say it again EYJ is the only lead off hitter on this team (17-11 with him leading off with 30 stolen bases, when not leading off 2-8 with 3 stolen bases). To me the 3 starting outfielders are EYJ (for his lead off ability, Lagares (for his defensive ability at Center, and Granderson (for the 64 million he was give). Chris Young is the perfect 4th outfielder, power bat off the bench.

  • metsman

    Count me as “fooled” too. People can mock me all they want for it, but most of them are morons who ramble on about how Flores “deserves” to be our short stop.

  • IndianaMet

    Yup. CY will be hitting in the AL come August 1. Everyone knows it. Lagares is a budding star. Flores has the same potential.
    If I was a Mets minor league prospect, I would lie about my age, and add 15 years to my real age, so I will have a chance to be called up and TC will play me. Prospects be damned, they like the veterans! Abreu! Valverde! Farnsworth! CY! I understand TC doesn’t set the roster, be he sure as hell loves these washed up players! Sickening. If it wasn’t for injuries, we wouldn’t see Montero or DeGrom til July.

  • metsman

    Very insightful.

  • IndianaMet

    The Mets trainers put him in a boot in order to rehab his lat. He should be great in no time at all!

  • billpulsipher

    CY isnt going anywhere because sandy the genius promised him an everyday job…Lagares is done with….EY buried him

  • Just_Da_damaja

    No TDA either.

    Injured after getting hit in the back of the head with Alfonso Soriano’s back swing.

  • billpulsipher

    im sure he will be back sometime before september 20

  • metsman

    Pathetic is what Flores is as a short stop. If he were Miguel Cabrera at the plate it might make up for it, but he is a 10 -15 HR guy at best playing half his games at Citifield

  • seldomused

    The problem is Terry does not like young players. He’d rather play someone he knows than someone he doesn’t know. It’s idiotic and he’s harming the development of these players.

  • seldomused

    “We gotta get Ruben going”
    -Terry Collins

  • metsman

    So you’re telling me he got a hit? Praise the lord!!!

  • seldomused

    Thanks for making people at work look at me funny.

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    and the .180 hittin rubin tejada is better? Again, wasn’t Rubin also rated one of the WORST DEFENSIVE SS in the league so far this season? So no defense no offense is better than no defense and little offense. Hmm, just makes no sense to me at least, but to each its own.

  • Helloboy

    Once again, this shows that the Mets are not believers in Flores as their future SS.
    I really wish we did not have to live with Tejada forced down our throats.

    TDA is out today too and may go on DL with concussion. Which means Centano would get a call up, but he would probably sit behind Recker.

  • seldomused

    “The only thing you can assume — and you could be wrong — is Wilmer
    came in and all of a sudden he lost his job and he said I got to win it
    back. Maybe he got focused.”

    This is idioitc. 12 PA is no where near enough to make any judgement call on Flores or on Tejeda. Stop ruining our younger players

  • Bill_R_whatshooF

    Collins is totally shot, no way on earth I can be convinced otherwise

  • metsman

    if you can’t asses his defensive abilities with your eyes no half cocked zone rating system will help.

  • beers22

    This is par for the course for TC. Nothing he says matters. Hoping this is just a one game, hot hitting, facing a tough righty kind of thing, and not an EYjr. and Tejada are now starters again kind of thing. Who knows with this guy?

  • Mike

    Why does this guy continue to stifle his young players I don’t get it? I really don’t. For someone who was a minor league coordinator and was a career minor leaguer himself he does not trust young players at all. Why does Sandy who is relying on youth to turn this franchise around put up w/it?

  • billpulsipher

    EY will be in the lineup for a month. he’s rickey henderson and jose reyes all rolled into one (TC logic)

  • billpulsipher

    sandy is just as bad, he has a damn retirement village in the bullpen

  • Nemo22

    What else is new. The Imbecile as I call him never keeps his word on anything he says. Flores is here because Tejada lost his job. Yet now, Collins plays Tejada who will play okay for a couple of days and then go back to being Tejada. By that time, Flores will not be hitting due to non-use and then the Imbecile will say that Flores should go back to Vegas and Q should come back up.

  • Bill_R_whatshooF

    Collins will make a superb politician someday

  • Charley’s Twin

    I bet you need to go to the public library for internet access.

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    Rubin’s? I see very limited range in all honesty, and defensive metrics do indeed support my eyes.

  • Peter S

    So he is David Wright at the plate?

  • Nemo22

    Lagares is out too? what an Imbecile of a manager the Mets have.

  • Bill_R_whatshooF

    DING DING DING
    That is EXACTLY what will happen.
    And the Collins Apologists will point to a few Wins during this span as proof Collins isn’t part of the problem

  • Mike

    Tejada has 4 hits in three gms against lousy pitching and has had a yr and a half to earn the job? I don’t get this oh wait I do, TC only cares about keeping his veterans happy, wonder why? maybe because they petitioned to get him fired from his last gig!

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    https://twitter.com/MarcCarig/status/466671198357970944

    As opposed to the ones that were hot that you’ve had ride the pine in the past, Terry? Oh that’s right….those were ROOKIES, no?

    Can you smell the favoritism?

  • Helloboy

    Or, just have to role with EY because he makes things go in a way that everyone else does not do. Lagares, sad to say, did not pass the test leading off. From a lineup perspective, Young is paid more and is delivering crucial power at crucial times. His defense has also been good. Right now they got to ride what works. Granderson is also on an uptick lately.

    At this point, I see no other option. They cannot spare CY’s power and his defense has been very good. With EY being the catalyst, i do not see any other option really.

  • Matt Mosher

    I really hate Collins.

  • Helloboy

    why is it nuts? EY has bright the team energy ad the w-l and runs scored are night and day when he plays. Lagares, sad to say, did not thrive when leading off and the team suffered. Sad as it may seem, the Mets are playing better with the EY-CY-Granderson alignment. Lagares will get his time in, but will not be counted on as a regular starter.

    We can’t keep pretending Lagares being out there makes the team better. I believed that a moth ago. Obviously, this is an incorrect belief.

  • Taskmaster4450

    How about your forecast that Dice K was going to get shelled in Yankee Stadium.

    Seems you were wrong about that.

  • Manuel1991

    What in the world is this Joey D? I always get this

  • Manuel1991

    This is waiting to be approved by MMO? Why do i get that?

  • Charley’s Twin

    b@lderson is in the spam filter.

  • TheMetsMachine

    And Chris young is Reggie Jackson according to you and Sandy – lol!! $7 million a year doesn’t mean he should be starting. He is a perfect bench player.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    That man gives me high blood pressure.

  • Chris H

    I said this yesterday. I could give 2 sh**s that Tejada is having better at bats. You bring Flores up to play not to sit on the bench. I knew Terry would do this.

  • TheMetsMachine

    You mean Chris Young buried him? EY doesn’t play center Lagares and Chris Young do.

  • derek murphy

    Yeah n yesterday SA said he’s doing a great job.

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    No his reasoning is Tajada is too hot to sit- 2-4 1-4 1-4 is too hot to sit…Wow great expectations TC way to set the bar high.

  • Chris H

    And Terry said Tejada is to hot to take out of the lineup. You idiot Tejada is never hot he might have a few hits but then go back to being Tejada we all know and hate.

  • Chris H

    Calling Tejada a veteran is a crime lol

  • Guest

    Why isn’t Frank Tavares playing shortstop tonite?

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    why is tc still here?

  • Kevin H

    TC is all about starting the hot hand. That’s why C Young, who went 0-5 last night, is starting in CF over Lagares. You can’t make this sh!t up. Unreal.

  • igotyourbackman

    this is a bit ridiculous. no, a lot ridiculous.

  • FredWilponzi

    Why isn’t Frank Tavares playing shortstop tonite???

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Ain’t it ironic how he says that he can’t take Tejada out because he’s hot, but he takes a hot bat from Vegas out of the lineup & puts him on the bench?

  • goorru

    This is nothing that Tanaka probably won’t cure.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    the guy is a complete idiot when it comes to managing a team. Im sure hes a nice guy and all, but come on! please sandy or jeff – this guy needs to go, now.

  • billpulsipher

    as a closer in the 9th with a 1/2 run lead….not as a long reliever which is where he belongs..

  • igotyourbackman

    i sent a rant email to the Mets. Maybe someone will read it.

  • billpulsipher

    I think CY sucks lol. only sandy is dumb enough to think hes legit

  • John Ginder

    Did you get former players to endorse it?

  • billpulsipher

    Juan Lagares has been optioned to AAA Vegas. Kirk has been recalled. TC “I just need to get EY in the lineup every day. Eric Young Jr makes things happen for us and needs to play and Chris Young is a solid veteran bat who also needs to play” Sandy “Juan is better suited to playing every day in Vegas than sitting on the bench up here.” you know its coming..wait for it…..

  • jcutiger

    Have you watched the games? Tejada has hit the ball hard on his outs too. Not a Tejeda fan, but he’s played his ball so far in the last couple of games.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    insert flores and tejada in that quote too

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    tejada has no power no speed, he is what he is, let flores play

  • tacknaf

    You and me both brother. The day he is fired, I am throwing a pizza party and yall are invited

  • KEITH

    After much speculation, Rubin Tejada is our new shortstop. Why am I not surprised.

  • sperry

    The last two games have been great but realistically we’ll probably lose tonight against Tanaka, so it’s a moot point.

  • Anthony

    Lets give this chump his first loss

  • goorru

    It’s the metsbogesque spam filter. I don’t get it.

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    Classic Terry! Can’t say I’m shocked though, mentioned before the call up that we’d have to weight two weeks to see Flores play regularly.

    Ultimately Tejada will return to his poor hitting, and this reversal will be just one more piece of evidence to lob on top of Fire-Terry Mountain.

  • QueensRussell

    We’re gonna torch Tanaka!

  • metsman

    You are just bursting with brilliant commentary. Tejada is lazy, I am poor…do you have any other completely baseless insults for people you know nothing about?

  • QueensRussell

    Since we bombed the Bombers in Yankoff stadium, we will just go Kamikaze on Tanaka in Citi!!! oh, but wait, that means we die, too. Never mind.

  • coyote521

    If terry collins had managed the yankees in the 20’s, wally pipp would’ve been back at first the next day and lou gehrig would’ve spent his career on the bench…..waiting.

  • Jgreen

    Terry surely likes Tejada

  • metsman

    Because he is the best option. Of all the positions to compromise defense with it’s the last one you should ever consider, especially since Flores hasn’t established his offense yet, so a bad day at the plate and it’s a double whammy. it’s a sound managerial decision. If Tejada is as terrible as everyone thinks he is Flores will get his ill advised shot at short stop soon enough. Playing the hot hand has always been my favorite approach.

  • TAPE_LGM_JETS

    Lol at ppl who decide 3 okay games is enough to forget a year of being the worst ss in the game. Oh well, I hope he goes 4-4 anyway.

  • Anthony

    Well said

  • Charley’s Twin

    Tejada your relative or something?

  • Peter

    He is playing very good defense right now and hitting the ball hard, if and or when he reverts back to a mistake prone Tejeda who can not hit Flores will play. Not sure what the fuss is about. I mean he has been playing well, bottom line.

  • TexasGusCC

    Terry didn’t like him last year… There seems to be a subconscious dislike for just-brought up players from Terry Collins. Don’t know if it stems from his days of trying to make it to the majors.

  • omar minayass

    which of the following am i wrong about, i’m just curious…

    -size : small
    -speed : slow
    -power: non-existent
    -fundamentals: shoddy
    -bat speed: average at best
    -track-record: dogshit

  • TexasGusCC

    You do realize that Tejada sucks defensively, no arm and no range.

  • ed charles

    The point is that it is POINT LESS to call up a kid who was on a tear in Vegas to ride the pine in the big leagues when the entire purpose of calling him up in the first place was to replace the guy who’s starting after having a decent game. It’s a rudderless, inane management group we’re dealing with here, watching them careen from decision to decision, then undeciding their own decisions. It’s amateurish at this point.

  • ed charles

    They ALREADY decided the issue, supposedly, when they called up Flores. It’s called a decision. They MADE it when they called up Flores.

  • ed charles

    except by then flores will have to re-find his stroke.

  • Flatbush0460

    So I guess Tejada, like Duda before him, talked his way into the lineup. Neither player has the pedigree to do so, but this is Terry’s rope he can hang himself with it if he chooses to. It’s just a shame they called Flores up to sit on the bench, again, thereby wasting his time

  • Flatbush0460

    Thank you. Spot on comment

  • Flatbush0460

    Haha, yeah, the kid Lou hasn’t earned his time . Lol, what a buffoon

  • Flatbush0460

    I feel much better knowing Tejada squared up a few pitches. It’ll be fine, really. I wonder if Flores will have to pay for his own flight back to Vegas

  • Flatbush0460

    And then after having sat on the bench for a week Collins will be surprised he isn’t hitting any longer. Collins could screw up a wet dream.

  • Flatbush0460

    Don’t you get frustrated when you’re the only guy making sense? I feel your pain Glider

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    Tell that to Terry. If I had my way Flores or Drew would have been playing since March.

  • He’s riding the hot hand. Tejada’s been decent. We’ll see.

  • mattbalasis

    4 for 12 … and then there’s tonight … thud … Look, even at his very best Tejada’s bat isn’t going to be a game-changer, whereas Wilmer has the potential to alter this lineup making it deeper and more consistent with his ability to make contact and his power. Also Collins obviously lacking the wherewithal to go with his A+ defensive OF at Citi. It is virtually impossible for this team to get on track, in a groove, “hot” even … to get to that magical place where everything clicks. Where they show the grit and energy to beat teams that may appear more “talented” on the surface. They came out with that energy today, but it fizzled. Yes yes they ran into a buzz saw, but I feel like it would have happened eventually. Collins and his cantankerous tinkering confound the team’s every attempt to get on a positive roll, while his panicky and ill-conceived moves when things are going bad tend to prolong slumps and losing streaks. Lose – lose. It’s remarkable to me that they are even close to .500. If the Mets win, it will have to be in spite of some truly atrocious coaching and managing … why was CY stealing? WHY for instance did EY dive?? The Mets have to be a max effort well oiled superbly coached supremely motivated squad if they are to have a chance, and their talented youngsters have to be allowed to rise to the occasion, there’s virtually no chance of that under this guy.

  • mattbalasis

    Yes except I do believe the lineup is TC’s last vestige of responsibility — which he no doubt will lose with one angry phone call if he keeps this up. Pretty sure the front office wants him to play Wilmer. Flores will be in there tomorrow.

  • ed charles

    Flat, I am going to accept your reply as belonging to me! Matt, you hit on the problem exactly! FO is setting line-ups. It’s sickening and TC is even more sickening for allowing it to happen. No manager worth their salt would take this job — my guess is Timid Teuffel is next.

  • Flatbush0460

    Indeed the comment was meant for you Glider. And the saddest part is that leaves Collins to the part of the job he excels at least, in game strategy. Outside of that, and that’s inexcusable, he’s an empty uniform with a Mr. Met patch on the sleeve

  • Bail4Nails

    The Mets have 2 more Major Call-ups to make:
    1) Syndergaard
    2) Wally F-ing Backman. Time to send Terry out to Pasture.

  • Once again Terry Collins proves he is a terrible manager. So tired of TC’s nonsense. You bring up a guy in Flores who was HOT in AAA and give him a few at bats and then ugh! It’s Lagares last season all over again. TC has to go! Fire him bring up Wally..

  • Tango01

    Certain people may disagree with what I’m going to say but that is why I don’t get upset anymore when the Mets lose. I know this 2014 team can’t compete for a World Series this year. So if it means the team losing to finally get rid of Terry then so be it. Sometimes you have to take one step back to go two forward. Terry will waste our chance to win if and once this team is finally built to win next year and beyond.

  • derek murphy

    Tejada the hottest he’s been in years is just an average weekend for Flores. 4-12 big deal Flores almost averages that. He’s an RBI machine and hits for more power. TC is stupid.

  • Metstheory22

    And now when Flores gets in he has cooled off due to no playing.

  • Hodges14

    “Terry Collins went back on what he told reporters last night and again earlier today”

    Shocking… we’ve never seen that before… lol

  • Lanzarishi

    Ruben Tejada is awesome! His defense is superb, A+. He has amazing at bats that take at least 8 to 10 pitches each time and when he does get a base hit it always is a hit that counts. How you not love this guy? And I love TC as well. Go Mets!

  • Tango01

    Please tell me you’re being sarcastic