Open Letter From Mets: No Good Deed Goes Unpunished

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By now, most of you should have received the email from the Mets, encouraging you to prove that you are “real” fans and to sign a pledge of support.

The letter, which was signed and sent by Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Cleon Jones, Ed Charles, Jerry Koosman, and Doc Gooden, read as follows:

To True New Yorkers –

The victory you earn is sweeter than the victory you’re given.

When we won in ’69 and ’86, we, the players, didn’t do it on our own.

We made history together — players and fans — through a gritty, even stubborn, belief in this club against all the odds.

When we’ve won, we’ve proved through the way we did it that true New Yorkers are Mets fans.

So today we’re issuing a call to all Mets fans: Show your New York Mets pride — stand up and say you’re a true New Yorker.

As players, we can tell you that what happens in the clubhouse and what happens in the stands — players and fans together, believing in each other — makes a tremendous difference with what happens on the field.

Your support matters; we wouldn’t have won without you. So we’re calling on you to give today’s club the same chance we had.

If you agree that the fans have a role to play in making amazing things happen, add your name to this letter:

Mets.com/TrueNewYorker

One fan — maybe you — will present the signatures on this letter and the messages from fans to the team, before the Mets’ first Subway Series game at Citi Field. If you add your name, it could be you.

We’ll see you there. Let’s Go Mets!

The reaction from most of the fans on Twitter bordered on outrage, apathy, bewilderment and an overall feeling of, “I give up.”

The Mets marketing people just can’t seem to get out of their own way and their lame attempts at connecting with fans does more to disparage them than to reign them in.

Perhaps Mike Vaccaro wraps it up better than I can when he tweeted the following:

After hanging with this team through thick and thin over the last five years of dreadful baseball, poor performance, and the myriad of public relations disasters, do they really doubt our loyalty? Really?

The truth is that over the last few years it is us the fans who deserve proof of the team’s commitment to the fans, and NOT the other way around.

We want proof of the ownership’s loyalty to this team. Our team. A team that feels like it’s been hijacked ever since Fred, Jeff and Saul became majority owners.

That’s the real problem right there.

The fans of this franchise should all get medals of honor for how incredible and steadfast their support still is despite all of this organization’s bumbling debacles.

How about you sign our petition that you stop blaming us for everything that is wrong with this franchise?

How about you sign our petition that you stop telling us you won’t invest another dime on this team unless we come to Citi Field and sell the place out forty times a a year?

How about you sign our petition that if the Mets dont win a championship in the next three years, you’ll sell the team and get the hell out of Dodge?

It’s been nearly 30 years since our last championship, and we’re all still here – rooting and waiting – and you have the gall to ask us to pledge our loyalty?

What do you call the last three decades of our lives?

mmo

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  • RS

    Fair criticism. It really is head-scratching by the team. Less distractions, more winning baseball please.

  • Spam for Tea

    Maybe Fred Wilpon’s mistress can start taping their phone conversations?

  • Metstheory22

    I deleted it due to fact, if I don’t know who is sending it, I will delete it.

  • Tommy2cat

    Couldn’t have said it better. Awesome!

  • Tommy2cat

    I don’t know if Bernie has access to taping equipment.

  • I felt disrespected. True NewYorkers? I’m from Jersey. Since when do only New Yorkers support the team? I guess they don’t need Jersey fans support.

  • mynewdisqusname

    Bernie.

  • That’s actually an excellent point that completely went over my head being a New Yorker. During every home game, half the parking lot at Citi Field is filled with out of state license plates.

  • Shaun

    It could never be organized, but if everyone who got that email filled it out with First Name – F , Last Name – You Wilpons, and the optional message was “Sell our beloved team”, that might send a message

  • mattbalasis

    Horwitz … nice guy, been around forever, but categorically positively clueless when it comes to present day media and marketing …

    Do they not understand that the fans are angry? That apathy and a lack of trust is rampant in the fan base? They really thought sending the fans a nasty guilt ridden letter was a good idea? lol … clueless.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    I believe that the owners being the crooks they are and this pathetic FO we have is a bad combination to have…
    I mean, sandy alderson himself said that in order to invest on the team we fans need to go to the stadium, otherwise there’d be no money to sign FA.
    Sad thing is, it’s not the players fault we have these ah0les as owners, it’s not the players fault that the FO is one of the worst in the league.
    Fans won’t support this team not because of the players, but because of owners and the FO.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Hahahahaahahahahahahahaha well done..

  • beers22

    I didn’t find it annoying or offensive so much as a confusing and weird promotional idea. You have good points though. This is kind of a poor attempt to make the fans feel like they matter when the ownership has completely missed the ball on this in many ways. I signed with the message, winning would be nice…

  • Part of me thought this was just another harmless reach out to the fans but I’m thinking it’s a way for those who sign up to give their email addresses to the Wilpons – a selling tactic. The more I read about it the less I like it though. It implies what, that we aren’t loyal to begin with?

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    This and the Cougar club are 1-2 in the worst ideas i’ve seen by this team… i mean, making fans feel guilty for not signing FA of good quality it’s just pathetic….

  • beers22

    Bud

  • LOL @ The Cougar Club!

  • Charley’s Twin

    15-11 and the most promising start in years. Yeah, It’s time to antagonize the fans again. Prove I’m a true New Yorker? Go to hell Wilpons.

  • Alex

    I think y’all are over sensitive. All they’re asking for is everyone to help create that home field advantage.

    I, like the rest if you, have been frustrated… But we have a bright future on the horizon. More rooting for our players and less harassing them if they fail may help. I’m the first to admit I booed Bay, and the rest of our bad signings over the years, but why not take the positivity we’re getting from our rotation and help it spill over to our bats and bullpen

  • AJF

    Did Matt Cerrone write that letter?

  • Charley’s Twin

    Nope. No typos.

  • AJF

    Good point

  • NewYorkMammoths

    Lexington Steele.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Free tickets help people from NJ to go to games lol….

  • MikeyT

    I agree – I think it was just a bizarre attempt to reach out and attempt to motivate people to buy some tickets
    but wow is it poorly exectuted, dumb and borderline insulting.
    at a company the size of the Mets, this must have been seen by a ton of people before it went out. How did no one say “Hey, this might not be a great idea”

  • Charley’s Twin

    Don’t forget the Amway sign!

  • Agee’s Catch

    They built a freaking pitcher’s park based on the team’s history of great pitching. WTF did they expect our hitters to do? And the one guy who could take advantage of all that space is playing in Canada.

  • Agee’s Catch

    My 50 characters: Please sell the team. I’m insulted.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Wait what!?!?!!?! Help create HF advantage!? That’s ridiculous… They’ve been looking for ways to try to make extra money, so this is just the latest albeit lame attempt to make money.. by guilting fans into coming to the games. Everything they do is just lame and very stupid, one of lowest payroll in baseball, no really star on the team, fans know this team is OVER achieving right now and they’ve seen this same scenario before (2012) where they started hot out to gate only to fizzle because they know this team can’t compete nor keep up with the big dogs.
    Good for the team to win, fans won’t buy this crap…

  • MikeyT

    It is so bizarre that someone as bright as Alderson constantly says that stupid line about people have to go the games first
    Thats not how business works. I cant open a General Store, leave the shelves empty and when customers come in looking for Milk tell them “Hey if you give me a bunch of money, I think about buying some milk and investing in the store, but its up to you”

  • beers22

    Leave your own message. This is one of those things that could really backfire. At least they didn’t ask fans to tweet their message. Some suggestions- as “Shaun” said “sell the team” – some others could be “sign drew” “sign free agents” “spend money” “get a closer” or simply “just win”

  • Captain America

    No mookie?

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but don;t they already have those email addresses? Didn’t they use them to send the letter out? (By the way, I didn’t get it though i get all the other marketing crap)

  • piazza4aday

    Its been said the road to recovery starts with acceptance of fault. Maybe this is an attempt at an open apology.

    I took it as “let’s meet in the middle…yea we are morons and have cheated out our fan base for the last few years, but let’s look at this season as the start…the ’83 to our next run” help cheer us on more then boo us out. Let’s make Citi “OUR” home and not just a neat place we play in often.

    Yes the message was poorly constructed and unwisely communicated, but the next phase of our “recovery” has to start somewhere… lets start with LGM !!!!

  • fedupfan13

    This organization is a disaster. Blame everything on the fans…how about this, if we actually do go to the games and they draw 3m people….will they then in turn raise payroll to The level of the red socks? I think not.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I like the ideas of the reverse petition. i think you should encourage all the blog admins to post it for fans to sign and then present it to the team. Seriously. Do it. Today.

  • fedupfan13

    I wonder what that mooks take on this will be. I’m sure it will be positive. Last week he complained that the media wasn’t being nice enough to the team.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Exactly.. he sees the garbage he puts on the field, then had the nerve to tell the fans hey, if you want better players, come and spend your money so we can re invest it on the team.. as if fans are stupid enough to fall for that, 3 straight years and payroll has gone down, down and down despite ppl leaving and clearing out as much payroll and salary as possible.
    Hell, they gave away Ike Davis for free the other day just so they can clear up more salary..

  • HillsideAve

    This has to be a joke, and it is beyond embarrassing. I can’t even imagine how Keith and Ron agreed to lend their image and name to it….maybe at gunpoint? “True New Yorkers” know when they are being insulted, and calling this letter only insulting is too kind.
    Who the hell’s idea was this? Did their new ‘marketing braintrust’ decide that they could perform some mass-hypnosis on the fan base and convince them that it’s actually their fault that the team has been horrible for years and the organization is insolvent?

  • Randolph Scott

    Vaccaro is dead on accurate with his assessment …… is there a link on the e-mail which directs you to 50% off coupon for Underdog T shirts too ??

    And another thing ….. I guess all those times I took the bus from Monmouth County NEW JERSEY to the PA, and then a subway ride to Shea makes me a non true Met fan.

  • gameball

    Stinks of desperation. I’m not going to make too much of this—just another awkward and misguided attempt at public relations from an organization woefully in need of professional guidance in that area.

  • Richard

    As the author says-they can’t seem to get out of their own way.

    I am as supportive of the Mets as anybody. Through all these years even when they were the lovable losers. Through the years when Sandy stripped them down and built up the farm again.

    Frankly that letter is offensive to me. My knee-jerk reaction is to tell them that I will “support” them when they get a product worth supporting back on the field. When they stop going “bargain-basement” shopping every time they look on the free agent market.

    The reality is I do not mind what they have done. I do not want them giving 100-odd million dollar contracts to over 30 year old free agents. But that letter begs for the worse response from their loyal fans.

    So my response to them-and Sandy-is “I will start supporting the team when they start playing like the 69 and 86 Mets.”

  • Bill Buckner

    “When we won in ’69 and ’86, we, the players, didn’t do it on our own.

    We made history together — players and fans — through a gritty, even stubborn, belief in this club against all the odds.”

    Against all the odds?!?! Maybe true of the ’69 team, but there was a magic number countdown in the newspaper in June for the ’86 team.

    Regardless, this article is spot on. You really can’t make this stuff up when it comes to how many stupid terrible PR moves this team makes. I have no idea what Jay Horowitz does all day, but he certainly doesn’t appear to be effective at what he SHOULD be doing – protecting what’s left of the organization’s image.

  • PessiMets

    Excellent post! Loyalty jeez!

  • Magic_Loogie

    My dislike for the Wipons grows daily. This reads like a pledge to the Wipons…no matter what we do…if you are a “true” New Yorker you will back us? I’m sure this comes from some moron in the Marketing group, but if this idea started with the Wilpons, then they are not just bad owners they are pyschopaths.

  • Anthony

    This team constantly shoots itself in the foot. They are run poorly on a lot of levels, but on a pr basis It can’t get any worse. Who is advising to do this crap. You wonder how they ever amassed the wealth they have in the first place.. What a disconnect

  • TPT

    a reverse petition??? haha you got to LOVE it….brilliant JoeD

  • mikefichera

    This is what happens when your PR guy is from before the internet.

  • Zalmen

    I don’t understand the outrage
    The fact is that the ballpark has been empty and the ratings dropped a lot the past few years
    The negativity is on the highest level nothing they do is taken well by the fans
    All their players are getting booed by the few fans who do show up to the park
    Simply crying on blogs about every prospect they develop what a busy he is not loyalty
    I don’t have a problem with that letter and I don’t see it as disrespectful at all
    Yes! They’re desperate to bring the fans back to what has been a very exciting start to the season to come and support them

  • NewYorkMammoths

    Stupid Mets marketing department is stupid.

  • LIKayLGM

    I think more shocking then this letter are the people that signed their names to it. I didn’t think Keith or Ron would do something like this.

  • NeedNewOwners

    There are just no words to adequately describe how this makes me feel. Obviously a creation of the imbecile son. The thief daddy likes him to keep busy.

  • Anthony

    Fredo made em an offer they couldn’t refuse, your signature or your brains on the document

  • NewYorkMammoths

    I agree. Interesting to see how that part of this story develops.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I just took you up on that idea.

  • TexasGusCC

    So glad I unsubscribed to their emails last week. I totally would have felt like a fool, for my previous support.

  • Martin

    your emotions are perhaps a bit intense for a marketing email

  • Zalmen

    When people cry that they can’t win at home and they don’t have a home field advantage they should take into consideration how demoralizing it has to be playing in your building when only a third of the seats are filled and those who are there are booing their stupid throats out
    Let’s go out there in a season that they have a chance to win with the pitching they have and let’s chair them on and let’s show them our support and I’ll guarantee that they will start winning at home

  • Xavier 22

    Probably part of their broadcasting contract (in the case of Keith and Ron).

  • Charley’s Twin

    You write very poorly and your point does not get across.

  • Donal

    Remember that Twitter snafu the NYPD had recently? Ya, I see this going down the same road.

  • Xavier 22

    I know there are some disgruntled fans, but I don’t think anyone is proposing we chair them

  • Zalmen

    Read it again slowly and and you’ll get my point

  • Charley’s Twin

    I’m afraid I don’t. How much does your internship with the Mets pay?

  • Alex68

    Support the crooks regained the money they lost on the scam they had so they can keep the team…
    Unlike Sandy, we’re not getting pay to support the team, Sandy lies on their behalf but he gets pay, we fans have to spend our hard earn money watching crap on the field?
    No thanks!

  • tomterrif

    Only this incompetent ownership group could put a damper on a surprising, feel good start to the season with this absurd missive to fans. In a different way, this should be the straw that breaks the camel’s back the way the Donald Stirling racism fiasco made people demand he take a hike. The fan response to this request should be a demand that Bud Selig force the Wilpons to sell. I want every one of them gone, from Jay Horwitz on up. Enough is enough!

  • Xavier 22

    The game six rally started with 2 outs and 2 strikes and nobody on and they were down by 2 runs. That’s against the odds.

  • Zalmen

    The writer was saying how loyal this fan base has been the past few years staying with the team through thin and thick so I say that crying on the blogs is not what I’ll call loyalty
    And just to bring up one more dumb thing that this fan base is doing all the time I put in the fact that the fan base hates on every prospect that the organization develops and are rooting for them to fail
    And that’s not what I call loyal support
    Got it kido

  • Zalmen

    Typing error meant to write bust instead of busy
    Sorry

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Oh. Em. Gee.

    EDIT: Just re-re-read it. It’s not SO bad–it doesn’t come out and ask people to buy tickets. Much better than the “Dear Revenue Stream” emails I spoof here.

  • Hodges14

    Just win and the fans will come back. No one cares if the A and AA teams finish with winning records if the major league team is playing out the string in July, August and September. It’s a very simple formula for sports in NYC… you want butts in the seat then win on the field.

  • depressed Mets fan

    The Wilpons and the media don’t realize, even when this team starts winning again, it’ll be a while for the fans to return. The negative feelings towards this franchise run a lot deeper than just wins and losses. This ownership group has insulted our intelligence nearly every time they open their mouths. They have run the team like a circus and have embarrassed the fans arguably more off the field than on it. They have lied to us every step of the way. Now they want us “real NY’ers” to show our support. We’re was the support from ownership when they built a new stadium cutting out 14k of affordable seating pricing out most “real ny’ers”. Some one else said it here, but just look at the ease of access for the haves crowd at the stadium and the lack of access around the stadium for the have nots. But now they need us back even though 6 years ago they told most of us we don’t need you… We have rich fans. This ownership has never gotten it with this fan base. You’re not dealing with a small market clueless fan bases. You’re dealing with one of the most well informed and passionate fan bases in the game. You’re dealing with a city where the modern game of Baseball was created, for better or worse Baseball is more than just a game in NYC. The Wilpons have never got it, I’m surprised the media has never got it either. We’ll always love the Mets, why I don’t know lol. But our negative feelings and us not going to the ball park runs so much deeper than just wins and losses. Sorry for any typos I’m typing from my phone.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Here would be a letter I’d like to see.

    “We know the last several years have been difficult for Mets fans. We’ve made plenty of mistakes along the way, but here comes the turnaround. We miss you at the park, and we need your support.”

    Instead, they write, “Show your New York Mets pride — stand up and say you’re a true New Yorker.” Douchebag letter.

  • markr

    Maybe I read it too quickly or I still have some non-cynical bones in my body, but I just read it as a way to pump up the team. If Terry Collins can’t do it then maybe a bunch of fan letters will. Again, maybe I’m a dreamer…

  • wilponzi

    Saul would never betray him like that

  • Novito

    Dodger fans boycotted McCourt why can’t Met fans do the same?! Take signs and have rallies. Not to say they’ll get ousted, but it’ll be a field day for media and show how us Met fans really feel. Idk. Sorry but this is just beyond incredible. F the wilpons and this trolling franchise.

  • Hodges14

    It can’t be the fans first. It has to be the owners putting a winning team on the field first. That’s the only thing that’s going to get people to come back and spend money at Citi Field. Very simple formula. They’re fortunate to be in NYC where fans will support a winner. Not every market has that luxury.

  • Hodges14

    As long as Bud Selig has any say in the matter the Wilpons aren’t going anywhere. It’s payback by Bud to the Wilpons for screwing Mets fans over by following all of Bud’s small market targeted initiatives over the years at the expense of the big market teams.

  • Keith’s stache

    Its an established fact (based on their behavior & things they say) that the owners are a pathetic bunch. But to to make Keith, Ron Doc, & Koosman sign on are what actually is their plea to the fans to spend money on their product is beyond despicable.
    Its about time the owners sell the team.

  • Rich24

    Hmm. Nothing about this on Metsblog….
    😉

  • Charley’s Twin

    Cerrone still hasn’t finished reading the letter.

  • metstastic

    At first I was appalled as anyone. I thought they wanted us to open up our wallets and go see a game… I hate when someone wants me to do something. I’ll do it if I want to and when I’m good and ready! Anyways.. Then I read the last paragraph and it all made sense.. They want us to retweet the letter. Make it go viral. Create buzz for the team again and bring back some fans that have been disillusioned over the last half a dozen years. If fans decide to go back out to the ballpark and watch a winning team again, all the better (maybe we’ll be able to afford that next high priced free agent now).

  • Bill Buckner

    The ’86 Mets were 108-54 in regular season. The next best team in MLB (Houston) was 96-36 & 12 games back of the Mets. The Red Sox were 95-66 & 12.5 games back of the Mets.

    The fact that there even was a game seven in that world series would suggest that they nearly choked and not that they overcame the odds by not choking and coming back to win games 6 & 7…

    The Mets were heavy favorites going into the WS and would have been a joke had they lost in game 6 – much like all of the 90s Braves teams that dominated all season only to lose in the playoffs.

  • Keith’s stache

    lol why bother going to that site.

  • Donal

    Dear Lord, no. Lets not equate this to a guy who for years has defied discrimination laws and held people down based on race and class. There’s a difference between bassackwards marketing ploy and what Sterling has said and done.

    Step out of the bubble and see what other team fans have been humiliated by. the ‘pons are ntiwits and probably should sell, but they aren’t even close to the worst.

  • RyanF55

    The team has a lot of balls sending this out. A WHOLE lot of balls. This honestly is just offensive…true fans will be there supporting this team, bandwagoners won’t. Sure, fans have boo’d Granderson pretty mercifully, but its their damn right as a fan who paid $22 to park, $15 just to get into the place, $8 dollar beers, $5 dollars for a hot dog to show displeasure in a guy making 60 million contributing nothing.

    We have been vocal in our disdain for how this team is run, and rightfully so. Pointing to 2 WS wins in 40+ years, with barren, horrid baseball the majority of the other years, isn’t enough. We’ll cheer for teams who compete, we won’t for teams that dont.

    This isn’t a Little League “support every player” situation. These guys are paid MILLIONS, and deserve to get blasted for not performing. I’ve attended10 games already this season and I’m not signing any damn “True Met Fan” letter. I’m a true fan, I’ve owned season tickets for years, I’ve stuck with this team through all the crap. Play good baseball, run this team correctly, and we’ll support it. It’s that simple. If you operate the team like a disaster, if you act unethical in outside dealings that inevitably effects the on-field talent level, then that’s on YOU Wilpons.

    What a joke. This is a new low.

  • Brian D.

    That’s just a bunch of excuses. How about we hold the organization accountable instead of blaming the fans? It’s not our fault that the team has been terrible.

    And if the players are upset about the lack of support, then they should use that as motivation to player harder and better. They are professionals, and that’s how they should handle criticism.

    If they are demoralized by a few obnoxious fans, then they don’t have the heart to win anyway.

  • Donal

    They weren’t boycotting, they just didn’t get there until the 3rd inning and left in the 6th.

  • CyYout

    I understand the anger is justified — Madoff, letting stars walk, the downright lying, eminent domain issues around Citifield, this ridiculous letter, etc. In the end though, no matter who signs the paychecks, this is my team and your team and as long as we care and the players care, then the Wilpons and Jay Horowitz can continue their circus. It will be their legacy and they will have to live with it. In the meantime, this unlikely team keeps winning and I keep cheering.

  • depressed Mets fan

    If you want to boycott don’t go to games. Don’t take them up on their free tickets. Pickets and pretest don’t do a thing when it comes to sports, it’s just makes the fans look like unemployed losers with morning better to do. If you want them to make your feelings felt stop going to games completely.

  • Jakal42400

    The “True New Yorkers” was just capitalizing on the words of Granderson. I don’t think this was an insult at all, and actually think it was a compliment. I don’t like the Wilpons’ or PR director and feel they are definitely out of touch with the fan base, but this was not one of those times. Maybe more desperate than anything else, but the media has struck again. The media bias in this city is disgusting. Nova announces 2 years ago that he’s the best pitcher in baseball, media says nothing, fan base says nothing, baseball itself saw an end to that. Harvey takes a picture and tweets it and media attacks, fans attack. Too much of negativity, and yes I do believe part of what this email is stating and do believe that support for who is ON THE FIELD will trickle down into wins. People keep searching why this team can’t win at home and I truly believe that there is so much negativity at that stadium it is unreal. I understand that ownership has continued to let us down, and I would be the first to celebrate if they sold, but we have to stop letting them ruin our love and enjoyment for the Mets, and stop letting the media fuel that negativity. The Mets (players), through the years have been one of the most heavily infulenced by it’s fan base. Outside of the Red Sox I have never seen such a connection, and that’s what I love about them. The other teams icons are known as Ruth, DiMaggio and Mantle, but we have always been on a first name basis. It’s Keith and Darryl and Mike, and that’s the way I like it, and I will never let the Wilpons and the media take that away from me.

  • It’s a non-story, to me. I care about what happens at 7:10, the rest is noise….my team is playing great fundamental baseball and winning. Nothing else matters!

  • Hodges14

    Just one more illustration of the difference between the NY baseball teams. The Mets ownership continues to imply that it’s the fan’s fault that the franchise is inept while the Yankees ownership comes out and says they owe it to their fanbase to put a winner on the field and then back up their words by acquiring the talent necessary to do so.

  • depressed Mets fan

    to prove the feelings of negativity are deeper than wine and losses, just look at what’s going on today. The team is playing decent ball, the starting rotation even without Harvey has been phenomenal. Yet our dislike for ownership still dominates the discussion.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Yeah, but your way doesn’t work well for delusional narcissists.

  • Hodges14

    I hope it continues but 15 wins isn’t going to un-do all the damage that the ownership and management of this franchise has done to their relationship with their fanbase over the last 5 years. They really need to put together a solid winning season to get people re-engaged.

  • Donal

    One thing we know for sure: Depodesta did NOT approve of this letter.

  • I’m waiting for my email from Mookie. We’re more on the same page.

  • True that. I’m optimistic though – starting pitching is the key, always has been, always will be – and we have some awesome depth, here and AAA… I’m a believer!

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Great comparison, my friend.

  • CyYout

    I think you’re right. They’re trying to capitalize on any good will this fast start may have provided, but don’t realize it doesn’t extend to ownership.

  • I’m with you but it just shows how they fly with these ridiculous ideas with minimal thought.

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    we don’t “have” to spend our hard earned money.

  • Amway is top 5 as well…edit: someone beat me to it. D’oh.

  • fedupfan13

    Yeah. I don’t think they realize that even if the Mets play well that there is a large portion of the fanbase who are staying away to hurt the owners

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    I actually don’t really see the big deal. The letter is pretty stupid – but it’s not malicious. There is a sense that the team could be turning it around, and I think they are trying to capitalize on that and build momentum for our next home stand. Of all the things to get worked up about…this is pretty vanilla and inconsequential if you ask me.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    well, if 14 wins had fans ready to pop champagne, imagine 15…

  • Charley’s Twin

    ha! fair point. It’s too bad because the team is playing their hearts out right now.

  • Nice, I’m in.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Even if we watch them on cable, which we pay for we are spending it on the mets…

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    I tend to agree – this isn’t a call to support the owners – it’s a call to support the players. That’s something that often gets lost in spite of how well we’re playing as a TEAM

  • depressed Mets fan

    If the Wilpons want to create a positive buzz around the team and take the focus of the negativity, then maybe they should apologize the poor play the past several years. Apologize for the off field distractions. Apologize for not doing right by the fans. That would go so much further than some BS pledge. Just be honest for the first time in years, that would go viral and that would go a very long way in starting to repair the relationship between the Wilpons and the fans.

  • Waz0787

    Sell the team wilpons

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Let’s hold off on the Sterling/Wilpon comparisons. It’s not remotely the same thing.

  • Waz0787

    Philadelphia

  • Taskmaster4450

    Also dont watch SNY because the Wilpons own most of that too.

  • Stupidseasonticketholder

    There is just so much to say. The first thing that comes to mind is embarrassment Take another bow Tommyboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Buster

    Oh, so it’s MY fault, thanks for letting me know.

  • coyote521

    Great article, joe d.

    I will sign all your petitions.
    I think the fans need to stand up and be heard, and there is no better place to start than here at Metsmerized. The true home for mets fans.

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    I understand – I have the MLB premium package so I can watch every game with the home broadcast from cali. I’m just saying – you said above “we fans have to spend our hard earn money watching crap on the field” and I’m saying we don’t “have” to. We choose to because no matter what, we love our Mets. If you hate the Wilpons and Sandy – stop paying to watch or go to the games.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    So make a petition. You’d get a few thousand signatures from MMO alone.

  • Taskmaster4450

    If you are a CWS fan, why are you on a Mets board?

  • Selig would implicate himself.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    I agree entirely with your approach–it would be a great first step in rebuilding trust and loyalty. It’s what a team would do if they were in touch with the fanbase.

    Unfortunately, “out of touch with the fanbase” would probably be the #2 term I’d use to describe our ownership (“cash-starved real-estate hustlers” would have the top spot).

  • Frank Francisco

    Yeah this is pretty lame. Seems like theyre trying to still ride the wave of a championship won 30 years ago. The ’86 mets were exciting but you can’t ride on their success forever.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Once again, the mets showed they prefer the second tier players as we opted for an older and obviously washed up CG instead of Abreu who’s younger and would’ve been a hit in NY with that kind of power and clutch hitting.. would’ve taken the pressure off DW who is showing signs of decline each day

  • Shaun

    It’s like a real life version of the movie Major League. Players winning to spite the owner. If there’s a cardboard cutout of Fred or Jeff in the locker room with removable clothing, I hope the TV censors are on their toes.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    LMFAO!

  • Taskmaster4450

    Amazing how the Mets get it on one hand and dont get it on the other.

    It is taking time to turn years of asinine decisions around in terms of building a successful baseball organization around. You cant undo years of bad draft choices, going cheap on IFAs, and poor FA signings overnight.

    Yet the Mets expect fans to instantly turn around and flock to the park simply because the Mets are off to a good start. It isnt going to happen. The rebuilt of trust is going to take time.

    The best thing for the Mets pr department to do is go on vacation. Stop everything. Do do a damn thing. They repeatedly show their incompetence and how much they really are buffoons. Just let the teams unfold as it is going to. The pieces are starting to fall into place for winning baseball. Let the fans latch onto that while the proper baseball moves are made. Fans will gravitate towards Lagares (play him), Montero and Noah (when they arrive), and guys like Flores/Puello/Degrom. Hell, even a few big PHs and every Met fan will be in Abreau’s corner.

    Stop trying to force something that is going to take time to rebuilt. Shortcuts never got the Mets anywhere and this is another example of it.

  • Waz0787

    I don’t care how great the mets are playing. We mets fan have suffered lied to forcefully made to watch an AAAA type of team for last 5 years. Burnn in hell wilpons. Not a single penny is going to the mets from my paycheck. You freaking scumbag this is NYC when you put a team with quality people come out to see. This a$$hole wilpons was the same douchebag who didn’t want to sign Piazza. He is arguably the best thing that happened to this organization for last 20 years. At least islanders fan can see the light and of the tunnel their scumbag owner is selling the team while we beloved mets fan have to suffer with this A$$ WILPONS. I HOPE YOUR FAMILY GET HIT BY A BUS OR SOMETHING. Freaking idiots made money from ponzi scams. Your family sold their soul to devil. Burn in hell wilpons. I am not paying a penny you heard not a single penny. Jay Horowitz eff you. You are the worst PR person. Also burn in hell

    Sincerely

    An agree mets fan

  • Hotstreak

    Yes the owners are what you described. But is Jay Horowitz just a figurehead. Native American night canceled now this. I would think a capable PR guy would have a pulse of the fan base, Especial with Jay constantly on the twitter.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I bet you watch them on SNY each day…..guess who owns that?

  • Taskmaster4450

    Dont say that….Depodesta said the same thing and he got blasted for it.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    This is nothing more than a more tempered way of saying if you come to the ballpark and spend money we will sign players and improve the team.

    But instead of using spending as the carrot they are using the guise of “BEING A REAL NY METS FAN”.

    Where have we heard that before??? I

    From the idiot half of the Mets fanbase that tell us we’re yankees fans if we criticize how poorly this team is run or how terrible theyve been.

    The same group of Mongos whom constantly tell us we should become the Cubs fans and cheer for the unlovable losers no matter how terrible they play.

    NO THANKS!

  • Hotstreak

    By the way instead of cancelling Native American night; I would have changed it to Jim Thrope night.

  • Metsaholic

    Your quote: “Burnn in hell wilpons.” Really? Because you don’t like the way they’ve managed our favorite baseball team? Really? I mean…heck (hell) even if you don’t believe in the down under, or just using it as another pejorative, don’t you think your wish is a bit over the top? Really?

  • Metsaholic

    Your quote:”A$$ WILPONS. I HOPE YOUR FAMILY GET HIT BY A BUS OR SOMETHING.” “What an average fan can do? Only hope they all die.” Really? Wow.

  • Metropolitan

    Pathetic…just sell Wilpon have some sympathy for once in your life, let Mets fans get some pride back..,with that said i am happy to see it has backfired ,do not sign this non sense folks!The only petition we need to sign is one that tells Fred to SELL SELL SELL!

  • elsid1986

    The reason for this is clear. You can’t fix stupidity. This organization has been a PR nightmare forever.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Leroy, it’s okay to say Sandy lovers… these people would say anything to defend their lord and savior sandy.. so if you don’t agree with the way the FO has been doing things, you’re either hate sandy personally, you’re not a mets fan or you’re definitely a Yankee fan.. that’s how it’s been since 2011 but more apparently now because we’re 15-11 and the migration of the MB awesome heads to the site…

  • Waz0787

    I don’t take a single word I said. This is my opinion. If you don’t agree go on to the next post brother.

  • Metfan9876

    I agree with you completely and I do think Abreu will be a very good player during his MLB career. However, it’s only been a month. I’d rather watch him over an entire season and judge him ( He’ll do fine, I think ).

  • Keith’s stache

    lol well done.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    This reads like a letter straight from the desk of Sandy Alderson.

    He is the one whom said if the Mets fans came to the games and spent their money theyd spend money on better players.

    And wasnt he also the one that blamed Mets fans for Wright not starting in the Allstar game over Pablo Sandoval?

    Wright vs.Sandoval: A city of 8 million was outvoted by a city of 800,000.— Sandy Alderson (@MetsGM) July 2, 2012

    How about maybe if you put a half way decent team on the field the fans would be more interested in the team hence participate in the Allstar voting and actually come to games to–you know, “ENJOY THE GAME”.

    This is nothing more than the Mets finally gaining a little positive steam from winning games and Alderson is trying to cash in before the wheels come off and the losing starts.

    Richard Lynn Sandy Alderson is a pompous “Grade A” USDA Approved POS

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    But instead, once again they gave us a second tier FA nobody really was pursuing and is here showing his age and his decline right in our eyes…

  • Stupidseasonticketholder

    I hope this blows up in their faces!!!!!!!! Open letter to the Wilpons should be done

  • Metsaholic

    Indeed. My opinion is you have a screw loose. Advise you seek medical attention. Just trying to help you out brother. No problem.

  • Stupidseasonticketholder

    Payroll of the Pirates.

  • Stupidseasonticketholder

    A “true new yorker” would have enough dough to spend on the fans

  • Waz0787

    Pittsburgh has a higher payroll

  • LIKayLGM

    I think the letter is idiotic, but they are grown men, no one “makes” them do anything.

  • Stupidseasonticketholder

    But do they have free t shirt fridays

  • KennyandtheMets

    Thanks again Joe D. Thanks for being the voice for so many of us “TRUE FANS”.
    This is a disgrace!! I was just starting to enjoy this scrappy team, now this. I am disappointed in all the ex Mets who signed this. They should all know better.

  • RyanF55

    “The victory you earn is sweeter than the victory you’re given.” …um, what?

    Can someone explain the difference in earning a victory and being given one? I love the 1986 Mets, but they were GIVEN a WS when the ball bounced through Buckner’s legs….give me a break. This is offensive to true Met fans like myself and all those on this website. I’ve attended 10 games already this year, and am flying to Denver tomorrow morning for the 4 game series. I’m flying to Miami and Pittsburgh in June for those series. I don’t feel I need to sign anything to prove my fan strength to this team. Go F yourselves Wilpons…

  • KennyandtheMets

    No Buster. It is OUR fault!

  • RyanF55

    It’s the difference in taking ownership of something and looking for excuses. The difference between winning and losing.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Lmao, try 23rd in the league ahead of the big market clubs like:

    Minnesota Twins
    Oakland A’s
    Cleveland Indians
    Pittsburgh Pirates
    Tampa Bay Rays
    Miami Marlins
    Houston Astros

  • DrDooby

    Unlike other PR debacles, I have no problem with this at all.

    Creating a little positive energy by handing over thousands of signatures as support of the team.Why not ? A nice little & inexpensive gesture. It´s similar to making a bit more noise at the park. So what.

    Of course, it may have been a bit naive to expect this to work out as planned without the inevitable Internet shitstorm that now inevitably will go with it. But I fail to get the LOLMets problem with this.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I agree. It isn’t the same thing. But who compared Wilpon to Sterling? I didn’t see that on this thread. Not in the article nor in the comments.

  • Erin_II

    Message to fans: If you want a better team, you must first become better fans, and give us a bigger cut of your salary.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Yeah, but even though we needed a 1B and a SS, upgrading the OF and acquiring another pitcher was much more important… or so it seemed

  • KennyandtheMets

    It may not be a big deal to you. That’s fine. However, to many of us, it is a slap in the face. An insult to our dedication to the team and our baseball acumen.

  • Opti-Mets-tic

    I agree with you. Why would anyone be upset over a simple little letter, asking for SOME fans to sign a silly little letter, so they can have a little ceremony before a game, and maybe even get a few smiles here and there. The letter isn’t a big deal, if a few hundred people sign it for them, it’ll be a nice little pre-game thing.
    Lighten up people.

  • Hardy Time

    Stephen A. Smith voice: “How Disrespectful”

  • Fast Eddie

    >>>”After hanging with this team through thick and thin over the last five years of dreadful baseball, poor performance, and the myriad of public relations disasters, do they really doubt our loyalty? Really? The truth is that over the last few years it is us the fans who deserve proof of the team’s commitment to the fans, and NOT the other way around.

    We want proof of the ownership’s loyalty to this team. Our team. A team that feels like it’s been hijacked ever since Fred, Jeff and Saul became majority owners. That’s the real problem right there”.<<<

    VERY well said…so much so that I really don't have much to add. One good thing from this stupid letter is that obviously ownership is hearing Mets fans loud and clear by the lack of ticket sales and its probably worse than we even imagined it would be. New York is meant for stars. Other than David Wright who has been here for his whole career, who are the fans running out to see on this team? I'll say it yet again…We really missed the boat on Jose Abreu! He's had maybe the best month of April for a rookie in the history of baseball. That guy could of been ours but our owners wouldn't reach down in their pockets for a potential superstar for a very reasonable price tag. Where was the "commitment" and "loyalty" from them that they want from us? Hey Wilpons, hope you're hearing us. We are not ready to come back until we see some commitment to winning. It's show us and then we'll show you, not the other way around…

  • Rob

    It’s all a case of Yankee Envy.
    Mets management is insecure about the SIZE of their fanbase. The Yankees have a BIGGER fanbase and the Wilpon’s are insecure about this.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I’ve seen a few saying they’re terrible owners “like Sterling.” Maybe that’s not a direct comparison, but the two don’t even belong in the same sentence.

  • billpulsipher

    The Yankees spend 3 times as much as frederick and jeffrey. they deserve a bigger fanbase…These a-holes drop the payroll to 75 million and act shocked nobody goes to the games LOL

  • Xavier 22

    In a short series anything can happen and the regular season record goes out the window. Just ask the 2001 Mariners.

    The fact is, the number of teams that have come back from the situation the Mets found themselves in at the bottom of the ninth in Game 6 can probably be counted on one hand (maybe 2, but you’d have some fingers left over) In that respect, they overcame the odds.

  • CJM

    Meh. They keep winning and people will forget about this nonsense.

  • Opti-Mets-tic

    +1

  • Xavier 22

    When even Cerrone questions the wisdom of this stunt, you know you’ve done something wrong.

  • fedupfan13

    Good for you. I cancelled all tickets also

  • Donal

    Actually, cancel your cable since they get a cut of it. and refuse to shop at the sponsors.

  • BurnInHellWilpons

    had the mets signed abreu, i would of been fine if the mets had an OF of EY, lagares and CY… assuming CY was their only OF addition.

  • AJF

    No they helped with that letter and the Mets just spell check it before e-mailing it

  • billpulsipher

    no they wont because when the trade deadline comes up and they do nothing because they are too cheap, it will all come up again

  • Opti-Mets-tic

    +100

  • fedupfan13

    I can’t believe Keith signed this piece of crap.

  • BronxMets

    What the idiots should do is realize that their product isn’t that good and doesn’t support the prices. 14.50 for a cheeseburger and fries in the delta club is insulting.

  • billpulsipher

    someone find a tape of fred making racist comments. this guy needs to be ousted

  • billpulsipher

    Sandy/Jeff/Fred :”but we have Lucas Duda and EY”

  • CJM

    Uh, if they keep winning as in if they win all year, people will forget, which they will, because they’ll be happy that the team made the playoffs.

  • Metropolitan

    I am sure he did not have much of a choice,

  • skyking26

    SELL, SELL, SELL SELL SELL NOW!!!

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Lmao, well, aren’t they they same price in Burger King?

  • Metropolitan

    Yeah , I am sure Wilpon has said something racist along the way

  • mets4lyfe

    It was cringe worthy to read

  • BarnRat

    Fred/Jeff, my kid’s school is putting on a musical. (Sure the kids are young, but some show promise.) The thing is, we’ve decided to charge Broadway ticket prices. How many seats can we put you down for? Thanks in advance.

  • IndianaMet

    This is a neat idea, if it was written in crayon and sent to my 10 year old son when he received his Mets Kids Club membership certificate.
    I’m 42 and have been supporting this team since 1985. I called the Mets ticket office on opening day and requested 2 pocket schedules. Didn’t get them.
    I travel from Indiana to NY every year for vacation and drop $$$ on tix, merchandise, food, etc., not too mention airfare, hotel….my son wears a Mets jersey or hat to school every freakin day. I spend $$ every year so I can watch the Mets on Directv. Spent thousands of dollars over the years on game used memorabilia. My family has a brick in the ground on the sidewalk at Citi Field.
    I have to sign a pledge showing my loyalty. No thanks. Thanks for slapping me in the face.

  • I sent my message:

    http://i.imgur.com/lLixEMr.png

  • Donal

    So, you are going to bring this up in every post?

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Keep winning??? Last i checked they haven’t won sh** and haven’t been near 500 since 2008. ohhh, wait, you mean the 15-11 record so far? ahhh got you….
    I tend to forget that the 15-11 record has some people ready to buy playoffs tickets

  • fedupfan13

    Did anyone notice that the Mets are like 7th in baseball in FCI. The problem with this number is that it uses an artificially low avg ticket price. Reason for this the Mets consider 60% of their tickets premium,the next highest team The Nats only use 26% as premium. What this does is artificially make the avg price seem cheaper because they are increasing the cheapest tix with only 40% of the highest prices. On the other end they are reducing the avg price of the highest ticket by 60% towards the cheaper end. Basically these crooks have figured out a way to disguise the avg ticket prices by cooking the books. FCI is fan cost index

  • B-Met Fan

    Payroll of the Pirates but fan price tag that almost matches the Yankees. That is a large part of the Met fans frustration. I wrote a post about attending a game where the mood of Met fans was testy and their faith visibly wavering. In my opinion that does have an impact on the team’s performance, especially at Citi Field.

    But, that’s not an indictment on Met fans. Met fans are eager, hungry, starved to throw their full support behind the team they love. But, at this point they are cautious and wary, burnt too many times during recent campaigns. They are looking for signs from owners and management that they are willing to commit the resources or promote the talent we have in the minors it will take to elevate to the next level. They are looking for signs from the players that they can sustain the energy it takes to compete for a spot in the post season.

    The fan base is excited about the current Met team but believes to really have a chance to play meaningful fall baseball, some additional moves are needed, moves that will cost resources, either now or in the future. Met fans don’t quit, we endure. That fact will never change.

  • Frank Francisco

    I’m not a true New Yorker, I’m from Jersey. Must not be a true fan.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Of course you don’t…. shocking would be if you did. One of the biggest apologists of this debacle is you…

  • fedupfan13

    Yeah. But they had no knowledge of that

  • muskytoes

    This letter is so preposterous and bizarre, I assumed this was some mass MLB marketing thing (like that godawful Face of MLB fiasco) and every team was individually doing this off their MLB site. I’m embarrassed for the players who have their names attached to this.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    in the mean time, i am sure they’re taking whatever insult you’re throwing their way as long as you keep feeding their pockets…. so thanks for buying tickets

  • CJM

    Clearly I mean keep winning this year. As of right now, they are winning. If that continues, all this petty stuff becomes irrelevant.

  • I think the Dir of Social Media got your message

    https://twitter.com/WillCarafello/status/461544571143352320

  • fedupfan13

    The best part. When I read the article on the FCI, the first thing I thought was they are going to say that they have lower then avg ticket prices. Two days later when questioned about the high FCI compared to payroll… Mets response …we have lower then avg ticket prices….total and absolute frauds

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Why shouldnt he?

    When guys like him and me were saying the Mets should sign J.Abreu in the offseason guys like you were telling us he is a Double A hitter from Cuba who will get eaten up by MLB pitching.

    Seems like this is the perfect time to keep bringing it up….Afterall if he were sucking youd be bringing it up saying

    “What happened to those Mets fans that wanted Jose Abreu?”

    You know like J.Bay and others here like to do when they bring up Michael Bourn and BJ Upton.

  • AJF

    I am from the Bronx but now living in CT so I guess I am no longer a true Met fan haha

  • RyanF55

    I love the game of baseball I’m not boycotting like other idiot fans in hopes they’ll sell. Ticket sales don’t matter that much…its about corporate sponsors/TV deals far more. Not showing up just makes you, yourself, miserable. It won’t make them sell anytime soon. So yeah, I’ll watch my team play in spite of ownership because I love the game. Citi Field also has great food.

  • Hotstreak

    If this were a public corporation and fans as stakeholders, we would have Mark Cuban as our CEO AFTER WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER. But it ain’t happening.

  • fedupfan13

    Fredo made him an offer he couldn’t refuse?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Unfortunately this team will NOT keep winning. Which is why they sent this crap letter out at this time to attempt a grab and run.

  • JJ

    LOL!!!!! Great article.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    I don’t get why they don’t just KEEP QUIET! Just play the games and get the season over with, they keep talking and making fans more angry. They are actually dummer that we all think they are which is really crazy.

    “we’re calling on you to give today’s club the same chance we had”

    Same chance???

    Do we have a player like Keith at 1B? Carter behind the plate? What about a big power guy like Straw? Or a pretty damn good bullpen? Is Doc pitching opening day?

    how can we give them the same chance “we had”….I wasn’t alive in 69, but I can deff not compare this team to the 86 team.
    Jesh, no teams are the same, no matter how good or bad they are. Is this a bad joke? Who comes up with this? Also who comes up with those awful commercials? This team needs to make a lot of changes and I don’t just mean the players. From the owners, to the 4 GM’s to the sad manager to the PR guy and who ever came up with this bright idea and those commercials, lol. O god will the madness ever end???

  • RyanF55

    I can’t get over this. It makes the team come off as absolutely pathetic. Begging fans to come out…literally begging, using former stars to do so. I mean, why now? Things are going good and you send this out as a reminder of how much we hate the FO. I just don’t get how they operate…they are seriously just idiots.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    you know what – id be happy to pay $15 for the burger from shake shack, cause it tastes good. As far as buying tickets that’s a diff story.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol

  • billpulsipher

    the mets ownership are like the guy who cheats on his wife over and over and over for years and then when the wife files for divorce, the husband reacts with “you arent a loyal wife, you betrayed me”….get a clue

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    cant blame the guys who signed, but the owner who approved it and the whole marketing team is at fault

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    This is how they got Keith Hernandez, Ron Darling, Cleon Jones, Ed Charles, Jerry Koosman, and Doc Gooden to sign this POS letter.

    http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/1C3XNDyVXRg/hqdefault.jpg

  • Joey D.

    Hi Joe D.,

    I was embarrassed when reading the letter which of course is nothing than a promotional stunt. It is my hope that Ron, Keith, Doc, Cleon, Kooz and the Glider did not see this as anything more than a well intentioned promotion to stir up more fan interest and that they were unable to recognize why so many would take this as a cheap shot in reaction to us not coming to the ball park.

    Despite how great the team has started off we, as fans, have a deep routed feeling of betrayal and anger because not only was the organization’s main priority that of re-building the financial stability of Sterling Mets which would not allow them to focus resources on the team on the field but because their public spokesman, their general manager, has insulted our intelligence with what is now clearly seen as manipulative double-talk to mislead the fan base which was to first paint a different picture of what he was hired to do and when that could no longer be covered up, the lack of spending was being twisted around to make it seem the payroll was reflective of the team’s “re-building” whereas the rebuilding measures were reflective of the need to keep payroll (and all other operating expenses) as low as possible. Thus the chuptzah that had them think up a stunt such as this only adds to that anger.

    Everybody agrees one must build for the future but there being no commitment to increase investment this past off-season to obtain more hitting so to back up a pitching staff that was already establishing itself into becoming one of the better ones in the league (we only used the money saved from expired contracts) is proof enough that “re-building” from the outset had nothing to do with the decision not to focus on the major league team in prior years for last season we saw the pitching staff take giant measures and as said, nothing was done to balance the roster beyond using money that had been saved. There was no allocation of additional funds – and that included adding to the operational budget the money shared by the new national television contract.

    Building for the future while attempting to field a competitive team for the present is what most all other clubs do EXCEPT those not willing to invest in fielding a possible winner because it is more profitable not to. And we are not talking in terms of one or two down seasons during a transition period. As we saw with Pittsburgh, San Diego, Kansas City and now with the Cubs (and it doesn’t what the reasons were), it was an intentional long-term decision made out of economic priority and thus this is now what we see happening with the Mets as well.

    And the ramifications are painful and deep and the wounds just don’t go away so easily. The best thing for them to do would be stop talking in terms of “payroll concentration” and a strict “payroll management” and teams being burned on long-term contracts and just simply try to get players can help our club.
    In fact, with the manner in which this team is surprising us all, the worst thing the organization could have done was to pull off such a stunt like.

  • RyanF55

    I can’t make this sh*t up…I was given a voucher for the free t shirt Friday. They didn’t even have the shirt, and it’s being mailed to me in 4-6 weeks. They can’t even do that right.

  • CJM

    That’s no guarantee. The team has a high ceiling. Things could go either way.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    lolololol

  • RyanF55

    Thats a little much haha

  • Honestly it probably just took a bottle of wine and some nachos to get Keith.

  • RyanF55

    New Jersey…never heard of it 😉

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    “You’ve got to give loyalty down, if you want loyalty up.” This has been the first time in awhile that I’ve been truly embarrassed to be a Mets fan. Its time to start cutting eye holes in your paper-bags fans.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    because despite our championship 15-11 record, fans aren’t going to games because they’re not buying this team AT ALL….

  • RyanF55

    You have to be centrally located in Flushing in order to be knighted a Met fan.

  • RyanF55

    Hahah everything about that letter is a joke

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    I say if anyone ever does sign this sad piece of paper sign it…”Sal Dateam”

  • Hodges14

    Within eyeshot of the unisphere. The Wilpons have conceded the rest of the tri-state area to the Yankees.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    lol I have been embarrassed for a few years now. When someone asks me if im a Yankee fan, I say “No, sadly im a met fan”

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Leroy, exactly, they’re trying to strike while the iron is hot.. F0H… they prob see the mistake signing wright and cg was and are trying to compensate for it by stealing from the fans ..

  • TPT

    wow excellent response you and your son are absolutely true Met fans and tell your son i wore my Met shirt and hat from morning till night and sometimes to bed ….my best to you both

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    Of coure 4 of those teams made the playoffs last year.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Not really.. i used to go, when the team was worth watching.. now, i watch every game, i root for them, but i do so from my own home. just because you DON’T go to the games doesn’t mean you’re not a true fan, it means many other things, like money related, not putting up with their sh** etc..

  • Buster

    Sorry, didn’t mean to short change anyone.

  • Jgreen

    haha this was the best joke so far

  • Donal

    “Why shouldnt he?”

    Because it is pointless? Because it is self serving? Because he drags down positive conversations? Because he could fall off the face of the earth by the All Star Break?

    “When guys like him and me were saying the Mets should sign J.Abreu in the offseason guys like you were telling us he is a Double A hitter from Cuba who will get eaten up by MLB pitching.”

    Actually, I was on board with signing him. But hey, you never let facts get in the way of your rants before.

    “”What happened to those Mets fans that wanted Jose Abreu?”

    You know like J.Bay and others here like to do when they bring up Michael Bourn and BJ Upton.”

    Which I refrain from. And all you are doing is proving yourself a child and hypocrite “Waaaa! They do it so I should be able to do it!”

    There are 725 players on the 29 other teams. Shall we go through all of them to see if the Mets should have acquired them or the 2014 season or not?

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Lmao, yup… that’s what they do.. gloat when things go their way but get mad if others do the same. just yesterday i saw someone mention Ike Davis, as if we gave 2 sh**, but as soon as i said the guys we got from him have helped the team a ton i was called all kinds of name

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    Yeah maybe the Wilpons celebrate April Fools Day on the last day of the month instead of the first.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I wish Fred Wilpon was Donald Sterling so we can get him out of Queens…can we recruit this chick V.Stiviano to record Jeff and Fred doing or saying something compromising???

    http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/files/2014/04/CLIPPERS_STERLING_BASKETBALL_37337795.jpg

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    ok wait a sec. So out of curiosity I clicked the link, like I was gonna sign this thing. Required fields are name, address and email…..This just gets worse and worse. If this was just a BS promo thing trying to unite the fans all they would have to do is sign their names. Gathering addresses and emails, is a marketing “trick” they will use that info to sent you ticket deals and try and make money off you. Come on, I do the same thing

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    lmao I was thinking that last night! maybe someone can record him saying something bad! I can tell you who ever does that to him will be a hero if we get rid of them.

  • NewYorkMammoths

    Anyone else think that maybe the “V.” stands for Vincent?

  • MikeyT

    Spot on

  • RyanF55

    We are playing well, stop crying about how we’ll fail until it actually happens. And I know you’ve been boycotting, but we aren’t in that bad of shape attendance wise. It can certainly improve, but the Wilpons drive enough revenue from SNY and sponsors to offset any shortcomings anyway.

    The Mets are 19th in the MLB in 2014 in average paid attendance at 27,058 a game, roughly 64.7% of the stadium sold per game. They are 10th in total attendance for the year. Paid vs. who actually shows up is one thing, but revenue only cares about paid tickets.

  • MetsFanSantaMonica

    Clearly.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Yeah hopefully Selig is out soon like Stern(from the NBA) and the Wilpons do something so unforgivable under a new commissioner and they get the boot a la Donald Sterling of the Clippers.

  • Mike Lloyd

    I thought this was outrageous and foolish when I heard it on the radio. I’m actually surprised at the Former players for attaching their names-regardless of whether they are paid by Sterling Mets in any fashion. That being said-how many more laughable and foolish attempts can these buffoons make. “Real New Yorkers” laugh and are indignant at your feeble attempts to have fans spend their hard earned money on an inferior product for 5 years. Real New Yorkers rather open their email box with an apology that’s 5 years overdue-for allowing greed to be your guiding principle-and turning a public trust into a national joke.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    “Real New Yorkers rather open their email box with an apology that’s 5 years overdue” agree

  • TPT

    well said Mike

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Thats the Sandy lovers way of doing things its only fair when the argument favors them. Just like their SABR stats only use the stats that benefit their argument.

  • RyanF55

    And just because I go to the game doesn’t mean I should be ashamed. My 10 dollars a night isn’t making or breaking the Wilpons, and I don’t give a sh*t either way. They are billionaires…it will take a decade of nobody showing up for them to have to think about selling. They profit off this team, they’re doing just fine. They just use those profits to pay lawyers to keep them out of prison…that’s the issue.,

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    If you refrain from the J.Bay and company bringing up Upton, Bourn etc then WHY THE HELL dont you refrain from @FredWilponzi and I bringing up Abreu???

    LMFAO nice try but no cigar…youre so full of KaKa Donal its not even funny.

  • Mcgrupp81

    Houston is the 4th most populous city in the country. I think that they will be able to bring in a lot more fans if their prospects pan out.

  • Disgraceful. The Wilponzies are a joke.

  • Hodges14

    You can’t rebuild a farm system over night however there was no reason to completely abandon the major league team for 4 years while doing the farm rebuild. You can do both, have a competitive major league team and build the farm at the same time if you have solvent owners and competent management.

  • Mike Lloyd

    Sad to say-I’m shocked at the names on there. But I think each may have a personal services clause in their ambassadors contract that allows their names to be utilized for PR purposes. I’m surprised that Darling and Hernandez names are attached. OR- it’s as pictured above.

  • Donal

    You just discovered the secret of 90% of the things on the internet (that aren’t porn).

    “Real New Yorkers also receive email from our promotional partners!”

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    hold up. Season tix in NY sell to big companies a lot. They give them to clients and employees. BUT no one wants to go. I get tix a lot, and I don’t go. I didn’t pay but yes they were paid for.

    BUT, although the tix were paid for, the seat is empty.
    #1 – Looks bad on TV, shows no one cares, spills over to TV ads, less $$ per add, etc
    #2 – Less concessions (food, drink, cloths, etc) sold cause the seat is empty
    #3 – Ironically 660 wfan no longer is the home of the mets, cause they mad an offer the mets didn’t like, knowing advertisers don’t want to pay for ads around met radio games, cause less listeners cause they are bad.
    #4 10th in total attendance…lol again but no one goes, players aren’t happy either, its depressing playing in front of no one.

  • Hodges14

    Bottom line is the Mets (Wilpons, Front Office, and Manager) have NO credibility because they’ve done nothing but lie to the fanbase for the last 5+ years. People have learned to not judge them on what they say but instead to judge them on what they do. What they do just isn’t good enough.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LMFAO….I nearly SHAT! myself when I saw this Meme….

    >_< HILARIOUS!!!

  • CJM

    Off-topic. Mets starters have worked their way up to 10th in the Majors in ERA and are 7th in the Majors in innings pitched. The wheels are really turning with the rotation. And icing on the cake. If you remove Colon’s horrendous start in Anaheim, their starters would be 6th in the Majors with a 2.96 ERA.

  • Hodges14

    Pissing on your fanbase probably isn’t the way to go then. Maybe dedicating themselves to winning would be a reasonable approach.

  • Donal

    Because they aren’t trying to bring down positive feelings.

    You are in physical pain from the positive things starting to happen now. You’re posts are getting more vitriolic and less coherent. Why are you against the Mets winning?

  • rwdavis22461

    get us players not gimmicks we win with talent not magic is back gimmiks we are not naive .

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Lol…Her birth name was actually Vanessa Perez. Apparently she changed her name because she was a rape baby(She was conceived through rape.) So it was her way of attempting to disassociate herself from that situation somehow.

  • Hodges14

    They’ve already been caught in 2 illegal ponzi schemes and MLB did absolutely nothing. They’re not going anywhere.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Spot on Hodges14!!

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    lmao – so I fill out the form, put my name, Sal Dateam, email berniemadoff@aol.com, and in the note area, I say, “just embarrassing, sell the team” I click send. a pop up window comes up says “your ineligible to sign the petition”

  • TPT

    ive been thru it all with the Mets from 1969 ,to the “you gotta believe” 73 Mets to the 1986 Mets right up to the 2014 Mets over 50 yrs of a Met blue and orange LOVE affair..this new Wilpon and friends ‘PLOY’ is insulting and flushes all the yrs of our association with the Mets down the toilet…this seem more of what a struggling expansion team would pull ..all the WILPONS AND THE FO DID WITH THIS SCHEME IS REMIND US HOW ROCK BOTTOM THEY HAVE TAKEN THE TEAM ..bad idea on their part…

  • Or a cherry flavored Tootsie Roll pop.

  • Keith’s stache

    a contract can “make” people do lots of things they don’t want to.

  • igotadose

    I’d choose a different color scheme, but otherwise agree with the sentiment

  • Peter S

    Ok…can I officially change my name to fire Jay Horowitz? I know he is not the marketing guy but doesn’t he sit there and go, “wait a minute you idiots.” I mean he has to have some idea what the ramifications of a letter like this would have on the mets public view. But yet, no input? This is so embarrassing. I hope no Yankees fans I know come across this.

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    It might mean another loyal met fan already used berniemadoff@aol.com. Try a different email address.

  • Peter S

    Can you please post a screen shot of that note.

  • Mike Lloyd

    The difference is the bedfellows they sleep with-Sterling’s a repugnant closet racist caught by a younger girl who was a gold digger. Sterling Mets bedfellows begin with Bud Selig, the bankers who allowed refinancing of the debt, Sandy 4-12-2 Alderson for overseeing and being complicit in reducing the franchise to a joke at the expense of his “gallows” humor “what outfield” and the message he carries from his bosses. All who took part are complicit in the act of betrayal against the fans.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    hmmm just realized I but my bday in 2011, I guess that could be why that happened, lolol ok changed the date and it went through!

  • MLBGM Fire TC
  • WilponsNeed2Go

    Its already been picked up by the Daily News….

  • Peter S

    Which would have been worse? This letter or a letter saying buy a prorated season ticket package and you get 1st dibs at playoff tickets?

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    lolol wonder what they think of it

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    you know who I really feel bad for….The guys who sell the hotdogs / sodas etc at the games. They must not be doing well these last few years. No one stands to give tips. That’s the worst part.

  • Peter S

    Oh come on Horowitz!!! Now I need to run for over for the next week!

  • Peter S

    Same as us

  • Peter S

    It was funnier when it didn’t go through. Lol

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    yea I know, but was my mistake, lol

  • Peter S

    I dropped close to $200 on souvenirs, food and drinks with my wife and 3 year old daughter.

  • Peter S

    Wouldn’t that be nice.

  • Peter S

    What was the attendance this past week?

  • RyanF55

    It’s really no worse than most places around the country. The Mets are averaging 27,000 sold a game. Probably around half show up, so yeah, it doesn’t look good. But, SNY was rated the HIGHEST grossing team network in the MLB (more than YES), ticket sales are sold and the Wilpons finances don’t care if they come or not. Concessions take a hit yes, and advertising is probably harder to come by, but its NY and they get that revenue in boatloads too. Go to Citi and count the advertisements…they are doing JUST fine. Actual fannies in the seats means less now than it ever has…true revenue is driven through TV contracts, advertisements and shared merchandise revenue. The Wilponzis are fine in all three.

  • MattSzat

    I signed it. But, I just want to meet the players lol.

  • RyanF55

    No response to that?

  • RyanF55

    They’ve been great, no doubt about it.

  • RyanF55

    Unfortunately far from it.

  • TPT

    can you even imagine the Yankees doing this ??? oh my God how embarrasing this is lol

  • MattSzat

    I’d rather open my email and see details for where and when the championship parade is being held

  • On this I disagree with you for the following reasons.

    I get that this is an attempt to possibly continue on the Granderson quote that he heard “true New Yorkers are Mets fans” but the idea that the PR department decided to take the angle of doing a promotion that is in my opinion going to automatically offend other prideful NewYorkers that may not be avid baseball fans or just starting to get into the sport at the idea that they are somehow less than a true NewYorker if they are not a Mets fans there alone you have problems begin in my opinion.

    Then to write a letter saying that the fans that showed up in those championship years supporting those teams were again True NewYorkers again not recognizing that the surrounding Tri State area supported those teams? The whole True NewYorker, True New Jerseyan, True Connecticutian. True Pennsylvanian, even True Mets Fan is the wrong approach for anyone that takes pride in being from any of those states or Mets fans that already supported the team before ever being asked to pledge an oath to begin with.

    The angle they should of taken was asking fans to show their Mets pride by signing a letter saying something along the angle of saying they are a proud member of Mets Nation. But to try and connect how much a True NewYorker ie: Mets Fan you truly are by how often you come to the stadium cheapens in my opinion what a True Fan is by trying to measure it on a monetary scale.

    It’s a PR attempt and I don’t raise it to the extremes some like to do as another opportunity to shoehorn this into bashing the front office. This in my opinion is just a bad decision by public relations that did not think this thing through when I consider the idea that they could miss not recognizing the surrounding States support over the years but also the approach to say well you are not really a True Mets fan unless you come out to support the team. It is just a wrong approach in my opinion.

  • RyanF55

    I always tip them big…usually round up my two beer purchase to a 20 if nothing else. I do feel for the individual, not the company. What really enraged me was talking to a concession woman who says they have to pay to park…..so you make bottom barrel hourly wage and they want you to pay $22 to park? So I guess you gross about 10 dollars a night working after you pay to get there…what a disgrace.

  • igotadose

    nicely put, Joey. FWIW, you can leave any old comments on the Mets facebook page. I’m having fun there.

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  • LIKayLGM

    Are Doc, Kooseman, Ed Charles, Cleon under contract?

  • Joey D.

    Hi igotadose,

    Hmm, the Mets facebook page. Never thought of that. But nah, I want Joe D. to have all of Joey D.’s comments as his “exclusives”. LOL

    Thanks for the nice words.

  • Letsgomets

    It was not “against all odds” in ’86…..they were odds on favorites to win the World Series. The fact that they did, regardless of the Game 6 and 7 comebacks, just fulfilled the expectations based on their regular season record. Also they didn’t come out of nowhere like the ’69 team…..they were very good and fell just short in ’85 of winning the division.

  • Keith’s stache

    Not sure about them 4. Maybe they have been paid to have their name used or maybe they want to stay in the news? To be honest, no idea.

  • skiplockweird

    If they continue to win, people will show up.

  • I literally do not even pay attention to anything from ownership, Mets marketing, or the like. I watch the teams. I root for our guys. And I try hard not to be embarrassed for begin a fan despite the Mets’ “brain trust” and their consistent ruinous intent.

  • Joey D.

    They might as well have accused us of being what Spiro Agnew said those of us who did not support the Nixon administration were back in 1970 by just replacing the last word of the following sentence with “met fans”:
    “an effete corps of impudent snobs who characterize themselves as intellectuals.”.

  • Bill Buckner

    I suppose so, but that’s really pushing the meaning of the phrase “against the odds” IMO…

    If the #1 seed in the NCAA tourny came back from a 8 point deficit with 30 seconds left to play and beat the #16 seed, no one would be lauding them for winning the game “against all the odds”. How many times has a team come back when down 8 points with 30 seconds remaining? Not many, but doing so in that situation would not have people buzzing about the #1 seed winning “against all odds”…it would be all about how they “survived” and were nearly “upset”….

  • Xavier 22

    You guys are right. Stuff like Game 6 happens every day.

  • HawkZon

    Horowitz is a dinosaur.

  • igotadose

    Or, “Nattering Nabobs of Negativism.” Spiro always was good for a quote.

  • QueensRussell

    As a scholar of the former U.S.S.R. I have to say it looks and sounds kind of “Soviet,” and that’s not a good thing.

  • LIKayLGM

    Anything is possible.

  • Joey D.

    Hi igotadose,

    Or how about “up your nose with a pantyhose”?

  • Donal

    I must have missed Fred pointing to the firing squad.

  • Donal

    That and Donald Sterling actually destroyed people’s lives.

  • SinHalo27

    I signed it & am taking it at face value- an oath, a pledge, whatever it is- I’m all in- always have been- always will be. I do not need to sign a pledge or to sip the kool-aid. Sometimes it’s just plain fun to let go of the wheel and enjoy the ride. Everyone knows ownership can’t get out of it’s own way & the manager is a bumbling, mismanaging puppet. Sometimes it just wears so thin that you finally get sick & tired of being sick & tired- that you have to take a step back and remember why you root for these guys night-in/night-out and don’t lose interest or jump to on the Bronx B!tche$’ bandwagon. It’s fun, it takes you back to childhood or you’re an old-timer who’s an NL baseball fan. You love the game and/or you just love the team. You’re not a sell-out or a front runner. This is your team and you revel in their triumphs and wallow in their tragedies. You love seeing them win and it hurts when they lose. There are great highs and there are great lows. If this past off-season taught us anything it’s that paralysis by analysis is a practice that can become a way of life and we can blog or fight each other from here to forever but that didn’t get Drew, Franklin, Grandy, CY or a first baseman here, nor did it yield a ring- it got nowhere. Just sit back and let go of the wheel and let’s see where it takes us. Up, down or in-between: it’s always an interesting ride nonetheless.

  • Flatbush0460

    Mental masturbation, to answer your question, and nothing less. Again, it’s our fault for not showing up, spending enough, being blind to the idiots in the the front office, the PR folks. I don’t need no stinking oath, even after this, through thick and thin I’m Mets fan since 68 and that ain’t changing til they put me in the earth. Bite me Fred and Jeffy

  • QueensRussell

    Either that or you just have a really poor understanding of what I am implying.

  • LIKayLGM

    Anything is possible

  • metslady

    This is exactly what I thought. I am embarrassed. It is pathetic. Show some class.

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    Wow, I’m speechless. Just when I thought I couldn’t hate the Wilpons any more than I already do, they sink to new low. Nice article, I feel EXACTLY the same way.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Id place a small bet that those players never signed that page, but rather those sigs where probably printed on the paper from a computer coppy and paste, or a stamp. Id even wonder if they showed the players the actual doc that they affixed their names to. Someone should ask keith about it

  • NYM86

    Central Connecticut here.

  • jason bay

    Ownership are the ones that can’t financially whether a full scale rebuild after years upon years of trying to patch the old rust bucket with other teams former All Stars……Then dump them for salary relief when the team busts

    They are the one’s that refused to go over slot in the draft, rarely offered arbitration to departing players to restock the farm and had no answer but to re-sign or pick up the options of players 32-45 years old when they could have been cashed in for 1st, supplemental and 2nd round draft picks.

    It was under their watch that eight future All Stars, nine if you count Bautista were traded and Reyes and Wright were put on the table too (for Alomar and Jose Cruz Jr.)

    It was them who built a shrine to the last team we defeated in the playoffs and have had to for numerous reasons import castoffs from every other franchise on earth just to field a team even when they were swimming in money.

    It was they who sold two first rounders to Boston for Chris Carter and sold Barajas for cash to LA with weeks remaining in the season in order to avoid the three draft picks they would have had to give signing bonuses to.

    I know the Wilpon’s have tried to field a team in the past but why they never tried to build a team while they were doing that is beyond me. They could have given up the draft picks AND taken a lot of them back AND gone over slot and we wouldn’t be in this position right now. They could have provided a workable budget for international amateurs as well back when money was no object.

  • Macdaddy

    Honestly…I just give up. Unfortunately, our Country continues to devolve than evolve and this rather insipid letter only reinforces such. Obviously, dragging things like the racist comments from Don Sterling into the discussion can seem a bit off the mark, when using it or the situation as a comparative…but it too denotes where we are at as a Country. Meaning…everyone and their dead uncle recognizes that Mr. Sterlings comments are reprehensible and entirely unacceptable. However, what pisses me off with this entire situation (which directly translates to this quasi oath of affimation) is that there is a history with this Arse Clown. As in…Don Sterling is widely known to be a racists and biggot and has been for decades, and has battled such in the court system for years. Yet now that it hits the airwaves the epiphany occurs and now everyone is on the band wagon to exact justice. Well where was the justice 5, 10 , 20 or 30 years ago or when this arse clown is getting named “Man of the Year” by the NAACP?

    It’s all about the money and how it serves peoples interestest at specific times despite the fact that the people involved might be the scum of the earth.
    Now we get a letter from a group of individuals, who are obviously being used in a manipulative fashion, to spurn the fan base for not being loyal subjects, while the ownership has stepped all over their cranks for the past 25 plus years. Yet we should get shammed for someone elses poor decision making and general stupidity. Give me a freaking break…how dumb do you think we are?

    All of this is just a giant pile of garbage and proves that our lesser demons are apparently defeating our quasi greater angels on a daily basis. The only thing that is coming out of this wonderful media driven age is that a few turds who seem to occupy the lime light are now being exposed for what they are…which is what they have been since day one of their existence.

  • MetsFAN660

    Oh, for the love of Christ! This is as big a deal as the last non-story people went nuts over-the David Wright Face-of-Baseball “scandal.” THE TEAM IS PLAYING WELL. BE HAPPY. 🙂

  • igotadose

    Was that Spiro, or the Fonz?

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    There’s a rock band called “Cheap Trick.” Need I say more?

  • peterfonda

    Is Jay Horwitz still head of PR for the Mets? If so, he is clearly past his expiration date and needs to be put out to pasture. The Mets have NO IDEA how to deal with the fans. They don’t know why we remain loyal to this team.

  • Eyeball

    For the love of God – it’s a freaking contest entry.

    Maybe I’m not thin skinned enough to be insulted by this.

  • ColoradoMetsFan

    A friend of mine, a Maryland-based journalist, said it best: “Maryland politicians serve two terms. One in the State House, the other in the Big House.”

  • ColoradoMetsFan

    Can’t anyone here play this game?

  • Joey D.

    Hi Igotadose,

    I actually got the quote wrong – it was “up your nose with a rubber hose” which Vinnie Barbarino always used to say even though I had misquoted him.

  • marshmallow

    co-sign!

  • vigouge

    Where in the world are you coming up with this? There’s no evidence whatsoever that this is the case. The Mets finacials problems are a result of a massive amount of debt related to the stadium and operating costs post Madoff not because the Wilpons are skimming.

  • vigouge

    Damn, the only thing dumber than this letter is the reaction to it.

  • MetsFAN660

    OR—-CBS brings in more money from the Yankees, even though they lost $ on both deals when they had both teams, and chose to keep the Yankees because it didn’t make sense to lose $ on both any more. Yankees and Mets radio ratings are virtually the same. Facts.

  • MetsManiac41

    Peter… this one is not on Jay at all. So not fair. Jay is VP of Media Relations. This one falls to their marketing department–most likely David Newman. I do think fans are reading a bit into the contest. For instance, Mets were even criticized for promoting David Wright for The Face of MLB. Issue here is hatred–HATRED–for the thin-skinned Wilpons.

  • Mookiewouldhavebeatitout

    Ownership has been tone deaf to the fanbase since the “Coupons” bought out Doubleday.