MMO Game Recap: Braves 6, Mets 0

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The New York Mets opened up their 10-game homestand with a disheartening 6-0 loss to the Atlanta Braves on Friday night at Citi Field.

Jon Niese started for the Mets and delivered another solid performance holding the Braves to one run on four hits and three walks in his six innings of work, while striking out seven. He certainly pitched good enough to win, but the Mets offense couldn’t provide and run support tonight.

Carlos Torres pitched a clean seventh, but Gonzalez Germen saw his 9.1 inning scoreless streak come to an end as he was tagged for four runs in the eighth to put the Braves up 5-0. New Mets-killer Freddie Freeman hit a two-run blast in that frame. Jeurys Familia allowed another run score to score in the ninth.

aaron harang

Aaron Harang was the big story in this game, holding the Mets hitless for seven innings, walking six and striking out five. After throwing 121 pitches, he didn’t come out for the eighth and the Braves bullpen took over.  

After 7.2 innings the Mets finally got their first hit when third baseman David Wright singled off Luis Avilan who came on to relieve Harang. That was the only hit in the game for the Mets.

This game was absolutely pitiful, and after a three-game sweep on the road, the Mets returned home and once again looked lethargic. Sooner or later they’ll start playing with a home-field advantage again right? Maybe they were shocked by losing popular teammate Ike Davis as Gary Cohen suggested? Who knows…

They’ll go out and try again on Saturday night at 7:10 PM as Bartolo Colon looks to rebound from his last start and put the Mets back on the plus side, He’ll be opposed by Ervin Santana for the Braves. Lets Go Mets!

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  • Hotstreak

    Niese pitched a fine game as did Gee the other day.. Tonight everyone else sucked.

  • In happy first basemen news, Jose Abreu is 0-4 with 3Ks tonight dropping his average to .200 on the year

    edit: updated with an extra AB of futility added

  • Metfan9876

    What an ugly night for the Mets… Well in other news, Nimmo has gone 4-5 with 2 RBI, 3 runs scored, a triple and a walk

  • break up the (St Lucie) Mets!

  • CJM

    Ike is gone. Let’s not forget that in the wake of this tough loss. Ike is gone. Things in the world are still right tonight.

  • Nmartz

    So ashamed of being a mets fan.. THANK YOU WILLPONS.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Pirates’ General Manager Neal Huntington following today’s trade:

    On Ike Davis:

    He’s done a really nice job against right-handers in his career. He’s had two big seasons and two injury plagued seasons. And we’re betting our guys can get him back on the right track. We’re betting he’s a better fit in this ballpark than he was in Citi Field … He is a very nice complement for Gaby. A guy who we think whose good days are ahead of him again.

    What makes you optimistic about Ike Davis in Pittsburgh?

    You look and see what he did in July and August, when he came back from the minor leagues. It was .420 on-base, almost an .860 OPS., playing good defense. Walk rate at almost 20 percent, strikeouts were down, hard contact was up. And, again, left handed hitters probably have a better fit in our ballpark.

    Hopefully this will solve our first base needs for years to come, but if it doesn’t we still have a pretty good guy in-house (Lambo) that we feel strongly about.

    He sounds like a real GM looking for young upside not rounding up a bunch of old inexpensive trash and selling it to his fanbase

  • MetsfanInParadise

    OK, which was worse, this or the 14-2 game? We did OK after that. It’s just one game…

  • oleosmirf

    Yea tonight sucked, but this terrible team is 8-8 with a chance to win this series.

  • CJM

    Ike is no longer young, fwiw.

  • I only used one ellipsis in this recap on account of you… It felt weird… It felt wrong… 😀

  • CJM

    Hard habit to beat. I know from experience. But the ellipsis is the death of complete thoughts!

  • $14435385

    In brighter news, four more hits for Nimmo, who at .407 is not even leading the team in BA…I thought the FSL was a pitchers’ league…

  • Waz0787

    Our friend Cerrone thinks we could Austin Meadows last year first round pick of Pitt as return for davis? I had a good laugh.

  • oleosmirf

    If you were a Pirates fan you’d be throwing a tantrum about how their cheap owners took a playoff team and didn’t spend a dime on it this offseason while letting Byrd and others leave…

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Impressive conversation. It’s rare that 3 people in one room know what an ellipsis is…

  • CJM

    Austin Medows+Zach Thornton=Ryan Braun. Value matches up well. Wouldn’t be surprised. LOLZ

  • He posted that?

  • CJM

    Cerrone thinks it’s when the earth’s shadow blocks the moon.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    No I wouldnt because they already have good players on their team. They didnt let Mccutchen,Alvarez etc walk like the Mets let Beltran, Reyes, Pagan now Ike go for NOTHING.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Ok, that gets a LOL from a guy who HATES internet abbreviations

  • Benny

    I blame the temperature…

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Didn’t bother the Braves.

  • Mike Lloyd

    Lmao

  • Wow, never mind my last comment, I see he did. I don’t think he understands how players are valued.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    When did Matt start smoking CRACK?

  • Mike Lloyd

    No hit for 7 by Aaron-friggin-Harang.

  • Waz0787

    Yes go to his site.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yeah right. Pitts is going to give up their number 4 prospect for Ike.

    Cerrone is a moron.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    He’s not a baseball man. He’s a miscast IT guy or something. Having him write for that site is a joke

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Anyone would do ok versus AZ pitching…welcome back to reality….WE SUCK!

    I’m a SABR GEEK now Stats on top of stats…Do you want FIP? lol

  • Taskmaster4450

    He no hit the Brewers for 6 innings earlier who have a much better offense than the Mets.

    Give the guy some credit. He has a sub 1.00 era through his 4 starts for a reason. He is throwing well.

  • CJM

    Thanks, haha. My great fear is that the previous statement might actually be true.

  • oleosmirf

    They lost arguably their best SP in Burnett and did nothing to address 1B and let Byrd walk without replacing him. You’d be absolutely beside yourself with anger that a 90+ win team did nothing all offseason while the rest of the competition did.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    We took 2 of 3 from the Braves last week, but it was on the road. WTF is wrong with this team? Oh right, we suck or something. I prefer the explanation that Citi Field was built on a cursed Indian burial ground.

  • Benny

    On a serious note, this hitting philosophy is just garbage. The opposing pitchers are just throwing meatballs every first pitch and our hitters are just watching it past by.

  • Hey! Email me and let me know how you did that styling in your comment.

  • Taskmaster4450

    With stolen money?

  • Waz0787

    If we get their 10th round pick or something. I would be happy. Davis chapter ended tonight. Sad davis, havens and holt were busts for mets. We had 3 first round picks that year too.

  • Mike Lloyd

    I give him a tip of the cap. But Aaron Harang Task–the Indians released him…from a minor league deal.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    He’s an idiot. He reminds me of Harold Reynolds

  • Waz0787

    Lol. I needed a laugh.

  • oleosmirf

    All he does is walk

    #mikebaxterclone
    #WSchamps2023

  • 2rings

    awful offense, yet they stubbornly stick to their sabre metrics approach, and stand behind the hitting coach..

  • Taskmaster4450

    Slammed Leroy.

    Your hypocrisy was just called out.

  • CJM

    Reynolds is better (obviously).

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Reynolds says diving into first headfirst gets you there faster. He’s the reason I can’t watch MLB Network

  • Super T

    I loved how Cerrone would post something along the lines at the end of last season – “If the team is still starting the likes of Duda, Davis, and Tejeda next year I will lose my mind” and fast forward to Spring Training – “The Mets really need to get a better look at Duda, Davis, and Tejeda to see what they have in them.”

  • KMO82

    He knows absolutely nothing about baseball. I can’t even look at his stuff anymore.

  • Arjun Vidudala

    must say props to harang, small sample size but hes been really good

  • CJM

    Cerrone says that Tejada dove into first when he clearly tripped. And he kept saying it, and saying it, and saying it.

  • I heard that the other day. And my wife who could care less, jumps in before I could get the words out…that guy’s joking right??

  • MetsfanInParadise

    Well, that was only the latest example. Reynolds has been a glib fool for years. He must be married to someone’s sister.

  • Waz0787

    After tonight’s game I needed a laugh. He has no clue sadly.

  • LOL Sometimes I think Fred Wilpon buried a Dodgers jersey under the Citi Field foundation during construction. What else could it be???

  • Metsdcg1

    I want the following line-up out there tomorrow:

    1. Eric Young, Jr
    2. Curtis Granderson
    3. David Wright
    4. Daniel Murphy
    5. Lucas Duda
    6. Chris Young
    7. Anthony Recker
    8. Omar Q.

  • I think he’s quoting some “knowledgeable” fan on a Pirates blog I was just on. The fan had this gem… “WORD is…iCould be Austin Meadows.”

    And boom folks. There’s your source. SMH.

  • 2rings

    very small sample size of course, but starting the year 0 for the division at home..not good

  • supposedly a 2013 draft player since they can’t deal a player from that draft until after the 2014 one hence the PTBNL status. JaCoby Jones? Immense upside, high risk.

  • Which blog?

  • Fred Wilpon owns the team and not Stuart Sternberg.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Lol.. Paging SL, Paging SANDY LOVERS!!!

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Let me learn you something

    1.Byrd SUCKS. I always disliked him.
    -Why re-sign that old washed up steroid junky when you have a STUD OF prospect in Gregory Polanco who is ready NOW???

    2.AJ Burnett was trying to bleed them of cash and waited til the last minute to negotiate (F him)
    -Edison Volquez replaced Burnett and is doing a GREAT JOB not to mention Taillon was poised to take a spot later in the season prior to injury.

    And he addressed 1B
    -IKE DAVIS deal with it 😉

    He did far more than Sandy….we are in yr 4 and Sandy is just making a choice at 1st base lol

    Tejada is still the SS

    And Sandy payed 20mill for a 41yr old fat pitcher

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    you dont know the meaning of hypocrisy

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Which styling? The Italics?

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    10-10 with a -6 Run Differential. This team is at best, at best a 500 team, again, just a quick reminder, the lower the expectations the lower the disappointment

  • MetsfanInParadise

    The only reason I go there is for the postgame videos. 3 more minutes of GKR. I ignore the written content.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    I don’t think he understands anything about baseball

  • I don’t want to speculate because I’m not buying it was PTBNL because it’s a ’13 pick. There are plenty of other reasons why they did that. And the most logical is that time was running out and the Mets had to have their lineup in before 30 minute game time deadline. But usually, it’s because they are considering one of two choices and were given 72 hours to decide.

  • Playing Braves and then Cards will show us who we really are. Let’s hope for the best and expect the worst. That’s my plan. Wait…is that even possible??

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Lol…if you want more laughs keep reading Metsblog lol

  • Thanks brother!

  • Mike Lloyd

    A few years back-Lol

  • oleosmirf

    lol if the Mets signed Volquez you would have had a hissy fit of epic proportions given his ERA of almost 6.00 last season.

    You would have thrown another hissy fit when the Orioles signed Cruz and the Pirates were stuck with Snider/Tabata platoon.

    And a third of your hissy fits would have occured when Travis Ishikawa was your starting 1B while Kendrys Morales was available.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Idk, we are just not that very good. When we win, I’ll be happy, when we lose it’s a I saw it coming mentality

  • KMO82

    At least Nimmo was 4-5 with a BB tonight.

  • metsfan79

    Id like
    c young
    D wright
    Recker
    Murphy
    Flores
    dykstra
    Eyoung
    Granderson

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Where’s jason bay and company?!?! Sandy lovers only wanna come here and gloat when we win. But when awful nights like this happen they’re nowhere to be found

  • The blockquote and header setting…

  • well then we’ll know by Monday. If no announcement has been made, JJ is my bet (hope)

  • PessiMets

    The sweep of the dbacks was great, but we all knew that once they got back to citifield and started playing real teams again it would be same all same all

  • I thought I was a Sandy Lover? Now I’m sad

  • PessiMets

    The entire mets team is an automatic out

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Sandy lovers meeting…To collectively come up with a Bs excuse

  • Waz0787

    Smh.

  • KMO82

    Duda needs to be hitting 4th and Grandy needs to be 6th at this point. I am also guessing that once Lagares returns the Mets the Mets will send Kirk and Brown down and call up Abreu, just a hunch.

  • Captain America

    How’s the core

  • Hotstreak

    Rule 4 Amateur Draft: Teams can not trade draft picks at any time. No drafted player can be dealt until at least one calendar year after signing.The loop hole is to put a PTBNL (player to be named later) in the draft, and complete it once the date arrives. Austin Meadows was drafted last year 9th pick of first round.

  • PessiMets

    He said that exactly! I remember and called him out on it, obviously no response. What a joke

  • metsjetsfan

    Can they just play the rest of the season on the road?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Wonder WHEN and WHAT the Mets were served for Lunch???

    Gotta blame the team Chef for the Mets not hitting.

    #SABR
    #SANDYLOGIC
    #COLLINSLOGIC

  • Taskmaster4450

    Ah Leroy more of the lies.

    The Mets let Beltan go for nothing instead of resigning him? No Leroy, stop with the bull crap. They TRADED Beltran. Do you recall that? For their #3 pitcher in the rotation now. That is not letting him go for nothing. And by the way, did you see the Yankee press conference where Beltran stated he wouldnt resign with the Mets no matter what?

    Let Ike go for nothing? That is one of the dumbest statement since you DONT even know what the deal is. You want to laugh at the PTBNL. Seems last year in the Byrd deal, the PTBNL was Herrera who is in the Mets top 10 in terms of prospects (and ripping up the FSL so far).

    Seems once again you ignore the facts which isnt surprising. If it doesnt fit your agenda, you toss it out the window.

    And by the way, I know with your limited understanding of baseball and how it works, under the old CBA, when a player left via FA, the team got compensation picks (unless a bozo GM agreed to forgo that like with Beltran). So just because you dont see a major league player doesnt mean that the Mets didnt get something in return. And by the way, Jose Reyes is a total loser. He makes Wright look like a winner.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Can they play in Antarctica so we dont have to see them?

  • LIKayLGM

    Are you instigating something? Nah, that would never happen.

  • IndianaMet

    Call him up. Our cleanup hitter is 8 for 60. I’m sure Brandon can do better than that.

  • No problem sir.

  • metsfan79

    I think K.Matsui and S.Green looking for work.

  • I don’t think it’s Meadows. I was just saying where Cerrone might’ve gotten his source and “internet buzz”.

  • This quote from Sandy leads me to believe it is necessary because of a rule rather than a decision making period:
    “Players are named later for a variety of reasons, so I really can’t get into it any further than that,” he said. “Because if I were to give you the reason why the player’s [not] been named, it would lead you in the right direction.”

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yeah and he has a sub 1.00 ERA in 4 starts.

    How many pitchers in baseball have that?

    Perhaps McDowell found something that the Indians (and Warthen) missed.

    If he had been getting shelled and threw this gem, fine I would agree with you. But the guy has been dealing all month long.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Oh the Mets lose and Alex shows up.

    What a shock.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Hahahahahahaha yip!!! But you’ll find them quickly shooting arrows at people who have said anything negative about sandy alderson

  • Oh same here.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Been here every game. Say the same thing whether we win or lose

  • Captain America

    Alex ready to bet again?

  • Taskmaster4450

    I see with Leroy and Alex here, we have dumb and dumber 3.

    Two Yankee trolls on a Mets board.

    Hey guys, this is a place for Met fans not trolls like you two.

    Go over to you Yankee board and lament the Yanks blowing it against the Rays.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    And where are you when SL attack everyone?! Where are you when they come in here saying sandys a genius for every win we get?!?!

  • Taskmaster4450

    Hey Leroy, I said I would give it until June, and I will. But at that point, you boy Abreau might be in A ball. It is becoming evident that Cuban baseball isnt much better than the FSL.

    It is said that Nimmo is better than Jose Abreau.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Hahahaha, SL are mad because we lost and we are askimg about them?! Man..

  • trevordunn

    garbage game for a garbage franchise.

    Sandy once again being made a fool of with this awful trade

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    He picked a horrible moment to do so, specially with a guy that was very clubhouse friendly

  • KMO82

    When will we find out who the PTBL is?

  • LIKayLGM

    I love fans like you, that are so happy when the team loses.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    There you go assuming again…I thought I taught you not to assume above.

    I never cared for Cruz, I was not one of those who was mad when the Orioles signed Cruz instead of the Mets. So youre making yourself look bad.

    As far as Cueto…Id rather they sign him for cheap than sign Old fat Colon. Go back on my comments i gave a ton of cheap players id prefer instead of Colon.

    We had to sign players where the Pirates didnt. Why???

    Because we had a lineup with Wright………..and no one else and no bats on the farm ready.The OF was a Mess. And I wouldve never wanted the Pirates to give up a 1st rder for Morales. I would of been pissed they didnt sign Jose Abreu though but unlike the mets they at least attempted.

  • trevordunn

    some 18 year old A ball player nobody heard of I’m sure

  • Bail4Nails

    I felt really bad for Davis after watching that interview. That being said, I hope Duda has a short leash also. We have other options ready to step in. I hope Tejada hasn’t decorated his Locker yet either.

  • Taskmaster4450

    It is easy to notice how you relish the Mets losing.

    And why does anyone have to answer for a lost? Are you insinuating that the Mets should win every game?

  • LIKayLGM

    No one has ever been attacked and no one ever called Alderson a genius. You your infantile rantings call anyone that disagree with you a Sandy Lover. Mets lost, I hate when the Mets lose, but I’m a fan. How about you?

  • 3.5 million to spend on Drew in June.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Alex isnt a Met fan. He is a troll. He is really a Yankee fans but cant go on their boards since they blew it against the Rays tonight.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    ” it would lead you in the right direction.”

    Lead you straight to the trash can

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Not at all. I am taking the high road on every game we lose . problem is, sandy lovers hide when we lose, yet run here to praise their lord when we win

  • depends on the reason why he’s a PTBNL. Joe D seems to think that the Mets are just getting 72 hours to select from a short list of previously agreed upon options. Rubin and others have speculated that the reason the player is to be named later is because you cannot trade a draft pick until 1 year after the draft so some are thinking the player is a 2013 draft pick in which case we’ll find out in June

  • Taskmaster4450

    Flores with another hit in Vegas tonight while playing at SS.

    Another couple weeks and he will be called up to replace Tejada.

  • Devan Cleary

    His 4hrs and 14rbi would lead the Mets

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LoL…Nimmo couldnt roll Abreu’s Cigar 😉

  • #TeamFlores

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    When the mets lose, nothing, im used to it, specially after these losers were hired to somehow run the franchise

  • Taskmaster4450

    Exercising your right to be a total idiot as guaranteed by the Constitution.

    You should thank a vet for you ability to do that.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    HAHAHA Sooooooooo true…I guess Task is saying Sandy put together a Single-A team

  • Taskmaster4450

    It is simple…if we know in a few days then it was from the list. If not, then it was a draft pick from the 2013 draft.

  • it’s not even once or twice. Dude has proclaimed this trade a fleecing without even knowing the main piece a dozen times tonight.

  • #TeamFlores

  • that’s my impression.

  • trevordunn

    yea cuz they will totally spend that money….cue the laughtrack

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yeah well so did Leroy.

    As Ron White says, you cant fix stupid.

  • JaCoby Jones. Please please please. He could be a total flop or he could be a 30-30 player for years

  • willywater88

    First off – I felt this was one of the better games called by the homeplate umpire.

    Harang pitched well, Mets never smoked the ball but had a few flyballs that were well hit. He deserved this win.

    Great to see Niese battle out of jams and show some fire in between innings.

    David Wright looked the worst out of all the Mets with those first two Ks. He had the only hit but his 8 game hitting streak wont last long if he keeps going like this.

  • $14435385

    The Mets have announced that they will fast before tomorrow’s game. “Eating wasn’t working,” explained Sandy Alderson. “We had to try something different to get our $16M cleanup hitter going.”

  • hopefully he’s a legit option, Joe. Bat seems to be waking up and the defense hasn’t stunk to the point where we’ve heard about it

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Awwww and you resort to insults….lol…guilty as charged, sandy lover supreme

    Hey task you always say collins is the worst manager yet your boy sandy signed him and then reupped by extending him, any thoughts/???

    HYPOCRITE!

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yeah and what has he doesnt outside the meatballs in Colorado that he saw.

    The league figured the guys out. He cant hit good pitching.

  • Devan Cleary

    Nimmo finally made it to High A Ball only took three years such a better pick than Wacha or Fernandez

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Mike Stanton has already 6 HR. Man, could’ve used someone like him in this lineup

  • so did Alex. Triumvirate of… something

  • Taskmaster4450

    No hypocrisy.

    I have said repeatedly that those are Alderson’s two worst mistakes.

    But I guess it is convenient for you to overlook all that.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Uhm he hit 2 more meatballs in Cleveland lol

    How much does Wright have??? mooooving on lol

  • trevordunn

    the idiot Sandy and TC got rid of Ike and paved the way for Lucas Duda…here’s the great Duda’s stats over the past 2 years. LOL. what a joke

    2012 .239 BA 15 HR 57 RBI 120 strikeouts

    2013 .223 BA 15 HR 33 RBI 102 strikeouts

  • Waz0787

    Shawn Green was nice. I am not going to lie. He was better than CG. Heck I would take kaz back

  • Metstheory22

    Ugly, ugly, ugly.

  • LIKayLGM

    You’re not taking the high road tonight, as usual, you are so full of it

  • trevordunn

    why feel bad? The guy got out of baseball hell aka the mets

  • that’s how the #core rolls. True fans… of the Phillies

  • Sach

    I concur with Taskmaster 4450- Let’s give Harang some credit too. Sandy should now turn his attention to trying to trade Grandy who reportedly doesn’t have a no trade clause in his contract if some team in MLB would have him at that economic cost or even a chunk of it. Geez…

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    LMFAO!

    Jackie Bradley already in the majors

    Courtney Hawkins a kid whom was drafted a yr later than Nimmo [the guy whom the mets selected Cecchini instead of] Is tearing High A ball up too..

  • trevordunn

    we need to unload Grandys salary. this 80 million dollar payroll is too much…check that, 76 million dollar payroll

  • Taskmaster4450

    What does Wright have to do with this conversation?

    The fact is that the league has figured out Abreau. The CWS spent $70M for a prospect…that is all. Can he hit big league pitching? We dont know. But so far he is at a .200 clip.

    Seems Cuban baseball doesnt have the knack for producing good everyday players. Outside of Puig, who is there. Cespedos? He is going backwards. The league figured him out. And he has more tools than the Abreau.

  • LIKayLGM

    Have you seen what Davis has done over the past 2 years?

  • his .200 BA is far inferior to our first baseman’s and he only has 1 more HR and 3 more RBIs while being a fulltimer which Duda has only just become

  • LIKayLGM

    Sandy Alderson is a vet!

  • Bail4Nails

    Trevor, I’ve held back on this for a while. But much like Ike, I think you might thrive in a different city. Sorry brutha, but this city’s eating you alive.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    What about the Pagan deal?

    What about Frank Francisco, Rauch?

    What about the K-Rod trade?

    What about……….eh forget it pointless to argue facts you’ll just blame Omar, Wilpons or Beltran

  • Waz0787

    Let’s see who we get returns. Don’t have a high expectations

  • Taskmaster4450

    Ike’s stats are worse the last two years.

    Once again Trevor, you are making yourself look totally foolish.

  • I was not aware that Wright was a power hitting first baseman signed blindly from Cuba

  • Taskmaster4450

    Typical Leroy, when he is getting his lunch eaten, he throws out the Wright card.

  • mr. belvedere

    we should have drafted him

  • only took 2 years. Or are you going to count the 10 games he played the year he was drafted. You are, arent you?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I love how you start your comment off witth sample size its still early but now that it suits your argument its definitive that they figured him out its over he is a Aball hitter from Cuba, yet as @devancleary:disqus points out he has more production than any Met player lol

    deal with that

  • I have nothing but good will towards Jose Abreu – no reason not to. However, I am rooting hardcore against the guy just because I want to see the excuses that are made

  • Taskmaster4450

    Collins is worse than all of them…cost the Mets more games.

    Pagan..Alderson got creamed.

    KRod? Really. In 2012 he was no better than FF.

    He started 2013 without a contract. He had to pitch in the WBC for the Brewers even to pick him up.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    No I throw out your best player and compare the 2 offensively…and you have no leg to stand on…because you cant bad mouth Abreu if your best player is sucking worst w/less production

  • Waz0787

    Dude let’s call it a night. Davis is gone done as a met. Most likely he will be hitting in Pittsburgh they have talents in their roster. Wait couple of weeks compare davis and duda’s stat. Alderson wanted duda.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    then obviously you have something against him.

  • you are more than welcome to criticize SA. It’s just that some people like to mock you for the things you choose to criticize. Like trades you don’t even know the terms of yet, for example. I am one of those people. Thank you.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I am neither rooting for or against him. I just watch a bunch of CWS games because I like Hawk. After the first week or so, the league figured Abreau out. He has no pitch recognition. Breaking balls eat him up. Throw him a FB, and he can kill it. He covers both sides of the plate well. Will he adjust? He better. But as we see with the Mets, laying off the breaking stuff isnt easy. The major league pitchers know what why are doing out there especially the vets.

  • trevordunn

    2012 Ike has 32 HR and 90 RBI. thats worse than 15 HR and 57 RBI?

  • trevordunn

    yeah 32 HR and 90 RBI in 2012….Duda has never SNIFFED 30/90

  • nope. Nothing personal against him. I do want to see you do some mental gymnastics over it though. Season is still young so I won’t be pressing it yet even though there was more than a little crowing when he had that hot start

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    He was iinstructional league playing…he doesnt get a pass because he wasnt even ready to play and compete in SS ball

  • why not? That doesn’t speak to his talent potential. That speaks to the availability of baseball where he’s from. Kid is looking good. I am sorry that the success of Mets prospects cause you such consternation

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    no crowing i told others i’ll talk to them at the allstar break

  • lindro88

    Anyone hear how Mejia’s side session went? I thought I read they were going to decide if he would make his next start based on how it went.

  • Taskmaster4450

    My best player? I thought you were a Met fan. Oh my mistake. I should have known better.

    Only in your mind does that logic work. Wright has nothing to with Abreau. The fact is Abreau is being eaten up by major league pitching at the moment. The White Sox spent $70M on a guy who is nothing more than a prospect. And for all the espousing about how great Cuban baseball is, it seems that few of the everyday guys come over here have much success outside of Puig who the league is also starting to figure out (just his skills are insane).

  • LIKayLGM

    followed by a year with 9 homeruns and hitting .200. Stop acting like they just traded away Ted Williams.

  • Devan Cleary

    So how come Wacha, Fernandez and Bradley up already. Better FO considering Sandy & Co. Haven’t had a 1st rd pick they drafted make it to the show

  • BarnRat

    We could save ourselves a lot of energy by stipulating that they’ve both sucked and not worry too much about who sucked more in which category over what period of time. It’s a wash, and a dirty wash at that.

  • Name

    How about the .205 average with 9 homeruns last year? Either you have some sort of man-crush on Davis or you just love to complain. I’d go with the latter.

  • lindro88

    Granderson is a very streaky hitter. He’s not the only player off to a slow start. Guys like Allan Craig, Carlos Santana, Matt Kemp just to name a few. He looks lost right now, but he’s got a long track record. He just needs a big game to get on track.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yes it is a small sample size but it is something to be concerned about. Newer players entering that the major league level can get their lunch handed to them if they dont adjust to the breaking stuff. We saw it with Lagares which he figured out this year. But many do not. Will Abreau? You seem confident he will.

    As for his stats, look closer. He isnt better than every met. His OPS isnt that great. Also, they are skewed, he had a terrific 10 days until the word got around. Since then he has been sinking very quickly.

  • Name

    They’re saying the PTBNL will be better than Thornton.

  • Taskmaster4450

    He didnt sign until a few days before the end of the signing period.

    He didnt play SS because he wasnt signed.

    Once again, Leroy ignoring the facts.

  • Taskmaster4450

    That isnt hard.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I disagree. Pure ignorance doesnt go over well in any city. Even Tampa would eat trevor alive.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I think they are waiting until tomorrow to see how the finger is before making a decision.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I wonder why your views are different when TDA is/was hitting .100 at the plate. lol

    You told everyone its still early lmao…im done you are an agenda driven joke. lol

    Lmao@10days(games)…how many games have they played thus far 15???? lololollol

    WOW dude you are embarrassing yourself. I’ll end this for you

  • Ice Cold Beard Shine

    He’s in the NL and on the Mets.

  • Sach

    Guys, your best guess as to TPTBNL in the Davis trade. My guess- fairly regarded SS prospect Alen Hanson who is currently at AA for the Pirates.

  • beers22

    Matt Kemp’s been off to a “slow start” for 3 years.

  • Name

    We should trade you to Pittsburgh.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I wish we could move our home ballpark to Arizona.

  • Taskmaster4450

    When are the Mets going to learn not to pitch to Freeman no matter what the circumstance is?

  • metsaholic

    Yes, because Ike has had over 400 more PA’s than Duda. And with that, he barely leads Duda in some categories and loses to him is a lot others. At bat for at bat, Duda is a better hitter. Anyone with eyes and most major league scouts see that.

  • Metropolitan

    How much longer does this team have to be bad at home before they fire Collins???This is not a Mets historical thing it has been common place since Collins has been here,you have to change the energy vibe karma or whatever you call it.Even crazy Freddy has to know this is bad for business.

  • because they advanced more quickly than Nimmo. It isn’t rocket surgery.

  • mr. belvedere

    3 things…1. Ike trade needed happen because he sucks and we have like 15 first baseman between NY and AA… 2. anyone know how Mejia’s bullpen went today?… 3. Although Edgin hasn’t been dominant in AAA, he needs to be promoted because Rice sucks too

  • Rocky Thompson

    Best guess is JaCoby Jones. Next best guess is Cody Dickson.

  • mr. belvedere

    For right now since Dice K needs to be up until Colon and Mejia get thru their turns unscathed we should send Familia down and bring up Edgin…then after May 1st bring Familia back and cut bait with Dice

  • Rocky Thompson

    1) IMO when Lagares comes of DL Nieuwenhuis and Brown will be sent down to minors and Abreu will come up as lefty bat off the bench/5th OF.
    2) Ike Davis needed to be traded. Without knowing who the player to be named later, how can anyone opine whether it is a good trade or not?
    3) Trading Davis saves Mets $3.5 million and opens up a spot on 40 man roster. Mets need to be aggressive in pursuit of Joel Hanrahan.
    4) The Mets need to upgrade the SS position. If there is not a trade that makes sense, it is time to promote Wilmer Flores.

  • lindro88

    Kemp has been hurt. He’s healthy now. I just picked him out of 20 or 30 other players off to slow starts. My point is Grandy is not as bad as he’s looked.

  • Metropolitan

    well the player,s name we know is not very exciting…a reliever

  • lindro88

    So he couldn’t hit Harang because he’s in the NL? I’m gonna guess he faced Harang in the AL a few times. I wasn’t thrilled with the signing, but I’m reading Jason Bay comparisons, and IMO it’s way to soon for that.

  • lindro88

    Yea, those relievers aren’t very exciting. Especially one none of us have ever seen pitch. You get dumber every year.

  • Rocky Thompson

    But knowing the lesser of two players the Mets are obtaining doesn’t tell me enough to know whether it is a good trade or not.

  • Metropolitan

    the player to be named later better be some sort of promising position prospect,because lord knows we need those

  • Sach

    BTW, just because a player hasn’t been named in a trade yet doesn’t mean that player was a draft pick in last year’s draft. We went through this last season in a trade with the Pirates with Victor Black who was at AAA then, right?

  • Rocky Thompson

    As I have posted before, my guess is JaCoby Jones – a high upside, high risk kind of prospect.

  • mikeyknows

    its going to be a top 15-20 prospect from the pirates.

  • Metropolitan

    what position and is he a power hitter type

  • Rocky Thompson

    Both of those guys are top 20 prospects.

  • Metropolitan

    how are the Knicks doing???

  • Rocky Thompson

    He plays CF and SS. MLB.com has the following on him.

    Jones has the tools to do just about everything on the baseball field, but they didn’t play too consistently during his career at LSU. The Pirates felt the athleticism was worth taking a shot with in the second round and he was having a strong pro debut before a knee injury ended his season. The approach was to simply throw Jones out there defensively and free up his offense, which worked initially. Jones saw most of his game time in center field and got reps at shortstop, and he’s likely to continue seeing time in both spots.

  • Name

    Nimmo came out of a highschool in Wyoming, where they don’t have high school baseball teams. He played for a legion team because that was the only way he could play. I don’t even think he’s 20 yet. It will take him some time to make it to the majors.

  • Mike Lloyd

    Sach, from your lips to God’s ears. But Hanson will NOT be the player-I’ve lived in Western Pa, 15 minutes from Blair County Stadium where the Altoona Curve play for 4 years. I have family that have season tickets-they are huge Pirate fans-they all gush about the kid. Very near an untouchable. He could probably be had-but it would have to be a special player to get him. Way special.

  • Rocky Thompson

    Black was on the 40 man roster and was traded after the trade deadline, so he had to clear waivers. If he did not clear waivers, the Pirates would have called him back and completed the trade at the end of the season. That situation does not exist here.

  • Ice Cold Beard Shine

    I miss making fun of the other guy from the other blog. Can we do that here? Lol

  • Ice Cold Beard Shine

    On Mets bad play at home: “I used to think it was bad luck but I just don’t know anymore.” The infamous MC of Mblog. rofl

    He was even quoted!! haha

  • Ice Cold Beard Shine

    Bye Ike. I wasnt a fan of yours logically in recent seasons. But you stole my heart boy [caught it over the railing. ] <3 <3 <3

    Had so much hope for you.

  • it doesn’t necessarily mean that the player was in the 2013 draft. However, if we don’t know who the player is by Monday, there is obviously something going on outside of the ordinary pick a guy from this list you have 3 days to decide deal. I can’t think of any other reason for the 2nd guy to be a PTBNL and Alderson said that he wouldn’t say why the player wasn’t being named yet because if he did it would lead reporters in the right direction in guessing who it is.

  • he’s a middle infielder and an OF. Tons of power. Extremely athletic. Very fast. Some questions about whether he can put it all together but if he does, he’s a potential superstar 30-30 sort of guy

  • Metropolitan

    I would be cool with that

  • yeah, I might be ok with that too 😉

  • Sach

    Thanks Rocky Thompson- My bad with that. Lol- I am trying to hunt down some clues- who might have been pulled out of a game or not started today or tonite in a game but is a starter in Bucs farm system, Pirates twitters, blogs and beat writers, etc.

  • IndianaMet

    I don’t complain much about the hitting philosophy because I see some value in it. But tonight is the last straw for me. The mets saw 151 pitches, drew 6 walks, Kd 8 times and had 1 hit. That is being so ridiculously defensive at the plate that it compares to a little league baseball team full of kids who are too scared to swing the bat. Our hitters are trying not to fail rather trying to attack a hittable pitch. Good hitters attack pitches they can drive, strike or not. Good hitters who are told not to swing at a ball don’t get aggressive at all. It’s Aaron freakin harang. Take some hacks and drive the damn ball. I will puke the next time one of our hitters takes a 3-1 pitch and tries to sneak his way to first base on a walk. Frustrated!!

    LGM

  • I thought Heyward was going to be the one tormenting us for the next decade. I was wrong. It’s Freeman, and it’s forever.

  • jason bay

    I’ll bet the Mets accepted a list of guys from which they can pick one and will scouting the Bucs farm systems heavily over the next week.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I was so happy to hear that Ike was traded. Then I watched this offense disappear again, as soon as they set foot in their home ball park. No hit by Aaron Harang?! SERIOUSLY!! A harsh reminder that Ike wasn’t the only subpar hitter on this “major league team”. Tejada is lifting the ball, when he makes contact that is. Granderson is fouling back pitches he should drive. d’Arnaud the same. DW is out in front and cant stay back on pitches. Numerous hitters missed hanging breaking pitches from Harang in the 5th, 6th, and 7th innings. Pitches in the middle of the plate.

  • KennyandtheMets

    It is very tough to watch. They were WAY more aggressive on the road trip. They were attacking pitches they could drive. Guess what? They drove them !! They got hits and scored runs. Walking and working counts has merit, but they have to be more aggressive.

  • from the sounds of it the player is already known – I think it’s a 2013 draft pick. SA said that the return he got for Ike wasn’t greater or lesser than what he had been asking for so it sounds like a fairly impact player. Or at least one with the potential to be impactful

  • Mike Lloyd

    Indiana-way to passive. And, as pointed out to me earlier by Task, Harang has been lights out this year. I knew he’d been pitching well, but was shocked at his pitching lines after viewing his stats until now- he is correct. That said, he was nibbling and some guys were taking pitches too close to take. Tomorrow is another day.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Kenny,

    Was it that they were so aggressive against the d’Backs or that the Arizona pitchers were throwing them batting practice-type pitches that would make any team look like the St. Louis Cardinals, a prime example of an aggressive hitting team?

  • Hotstreak

    Task: You have an out. SA did not pick Collins: Koufax recommended him to Fred and deal was sealed. SA at his initial press conference during managerial search in effect said that he did NOT have complete control and could only make recommendations. Koufax is buddies with Fred and TC and that’s how we got TC. I blame SA for giving up the right to pick his manager.

    http://nypost.com/2010/11/06/collins-top-candidate-for-mets-manager-source/

  • Joey D.

    Hi Guys,

    Anybody notice what the difference is between a team like Atlanta and a team like us? On that d’Arnaud play, the Braves first baseman, knowing that a close play can now be appealed, did not simply toss the ball back after the third out was called. Instead he continued with the play and threw a non hustling Duda out at third.

    With replay nobody should assume a close call means the end of the inning and not to continue out the play to the end. It’s like what Rob said the other day – are the Mets playing to win or just playing not to lose?

    This is another example of the Mets not having a winning attitude. And that lethargic play of their’s comes from the lethargic attitude towards them as individuals in lieu of being numbers on a spread sheet and dollar amounts on a reduced payroll plan not to mention the team’s development being of secondary importance to the real-estate development to begin across the street.

  • TC’s talking head

    Read this…

    Mets ranked 4th most valuable MLB team.

    The Mets. Still a real baseball team. Still a really valuable baseball team, despite the fact that it’s only made the playoffs once since getting shamed all the way back to Queens in the Battle of the Boroughs that was the 2000 World Series by the New York Yankees. The Cubs are “Aw, shucks” losers — their drought is long enough that everyone who was old enough to see them win a World Series has passed on, so the pain is kind of a residual funk, a historical footnote. The last time the Mets had a winning season was in 2008. Their not-so-goodness is fresh. Ugly. Less ugly is their position on this list, and the fact that, somehow, the Mets are worth $2,050 million (or $2 billion, with a B).

    Yeah. Two thousand, fifty million dollars. For the Mets. And here’s another bit of surprising trivia: The team has a bigger RSN than the Yankees. Yep. The Mets’ RSN is more than half their total value, coming in at $1,165 million. After that, their big earnings come from media rights ($120 million, second highest in the league) and their $55 million sponsorship deal (also second highest). If you guessed that the Mets didn’t have a lot of people coming to their games, you were right, as they finished in the bottom third of the league, with only 2.1 million fans making the trip.

    And to add insult to injury, the Mets had to pay $27 million dollars in revenue sharing. Their 2014 team salary, however, is a relatively tiny $73.9 million. Half of their television revenue can cover their team for a year. Yowzer.

  • jason bay

    Just what the World needs another conspiracy theorist, this one trying to connect a one dimensional graduate of our farm system to a real estate development project.

    What next? Eric Young being linked to Global warming?

  • TC’s talking head

    Sandy alderson said because Duda has more arbitration years left, that he’s the 1st baseman and they liked saving the 3 million from trading Ike. This cheap garbage never ends!!!!The Mets payroll should be 200 million like the dodgers!!!!!! Cheap, disgusting, fugly looking, lying ownership!!!!!!

  • Hotstreak

    What about letting Reyes go for next to nothing. How quickly we forget.

  • TC’s talking head

    Yeah, it’s sad that we have to cheer against who the mets won’t spend cash on to make ourselves feel better.

  • TC’s talking head

    Here’s an idea. How about making the stadium look more like a home stadium instead of changing meal schedules. Spray paint the seats orange and blue. Get rid of the green seat color. Green should only be a team color on irish night. Maybe the team doesn’t do good at home cause they don’t feel at home.

  • TC’s talking head

    How much you wanna bet the PTBNL will be another pitcher. Enough pitching!! We need hitting!!!!!! Oh, and btw, if my memory is correct wasn’t Vic Black the PTBNL in the Byrd trade? I see a lot of ppl here saying it was Herrera. I’m sure it was Black.

  • Hotstreak
  • Hotstreak

    Yeah you already covered Wally getting a reporter to show how he showed Noah the Ark. or Attitude

  • Hotstreak

    Hi Joey D.

    Met’s developing real estate instead of players is a faster way to recover their lost Madoff fortune.

  • Hotstreak

    Was Capt Kirk available? Why did Brown pinch hit for Torres (righty vs righty match up) in 1-0 game in 7th with two on and Harang with a high pitch count and losing command instead of left handed Kirk. Was this another TC blunder? That was our big chance to tie and win the game.

  • Pike Miazza

    Hmmm…a lot of self important posters on here rained all OVER how much of a dumpster diving cracker-jack bust Harang was for the Mets on how there was NO WAY we should bring him back this season…..well, hes got better numbers than ANY of our pitchers….same thing about C. Hart…and hes got more HRs than anyone on the Mets too…and he could have been had at a gr8 price, if he stays healthy he’ll hit 30 HRs this season… whats the over/under on anyone on the Mets getting close to 30?
    Granderson needs to be benched for a couple of games so he can watch a game from the dugout, because he hasn’t done anything to earn a dollar of that $13M yet…smh

  • Selltheteam06

    Kirk had already pinch hit

  • Hotstreak

    Yes Teddy his BABIP is .156

    http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=7739&position=C

    But evnen if he hits .260 with a .340 OBP and 15 hrs can we play him with his poor defense.

    Yes his framing is great.

  • Fonzie

    Now you see what I mean. It’s idiotic comments like that, that just makes you wanna puke. Like I said the older they are, the longer they’ve followed the team, the dumber they are. That guy is so scared of sabermetrics that he has to create reasons to knock it. All because he has not a clue how to interpret them. Lets not get into the sh!t he make up about Alderson. That’s worthy of having a Sitcom created from it.

  • Fonzie

    His defense has been far from poor. It’s been very very good as a matter of fact. It’s his offense that needs work.

  • Fonzie

    Leroy, Trevor and Alex are the Forrest Gumps of MMO. Gump had a higher IQ though.

  • Fonzie

    He picked the team to lose 100 games last season and then posted how he was disappointed they did not reach that mark.

  • Fonzie

    Nails hit firmly on head.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    did he actually say that ?

    wow….

  • Just_Da_damaja

    his defense has been so great…he’s been taken out for a defensive replacement in 4 games already this year…

    the ONLY position player that its been for…

  • calamityfrancis

    don’t worry he’ll welch again

  • Captain America

    One thing you gotta love about Al is he is consistent

  • Captain America

    Teddy looks from the box score Montero was a little wild and hit hard?

  • DrDooby

    Aaron Harang just happens to be the hottest pitcher in Baseball right now for whatever reason. He also no-hit the hot Milwaukee Brewers for 6 innings earlier this season.

    The Mets have been very inconsistent so far offensively. But the main culprits are Murphy, Wright and Granderson who all have a sub .700 OPS and just aren’t hitting like they’re supposed to. And that has nothing to do with approach but just being in a collective slump.

  • Joanie Yan

    How many times does the team come out after a winning streak and look flat as a board? I mean they were facing Aaron Harang – not Strasberg or Verlander. Do we blame this on Terry Collins – who doesn’t seem to motivate players (and I don’t agree that players seem to play hard for him because I’ve yet to see it) or Sandy Alderson who traded one of the most popular players in the clubhouse half an hour before gametime and then threw him to the wolves to face the throng of reporters?
    I’m rooting for Ike – I think he’ll be a lot better off away from this mess. To me the beginning of the end for this team was letting Reyes go. He was a home grown, popular player that gave the Mets character and here it is 3 years later and guess what – the Mets need a SS and a leadoff hitter. And compared to a lot of other contracts out there, the one he got seems reasonable.

  • metsfan79

    I’ll agrer yo disagree on that

  • DrDooby

    Yup. Sounded very specific. Figures to be a 2013 draftee.

  • DrDooby

    Could be because they were college draftees (and Fernandez an unusual, older than normal HS draftee). How many 2011 HS draftees other than Fernandez have reached the majors yet ?

    If 2011 were redrafted today, obviously Fernandez gets picked 1.1 ahead of Gerritt Cole and probably Archie Bradley. But Nimmo at this point figures to be rated higher than at least half the players picked ahead of him that summer.

  • Mike

    Again we see terry not take advantage of the challenge system. This is the second time in almost a week he could have gotten Travis a hit but decided not to very Bizzare

  • oleosmirf

    d’Arnaud has been taken out of a game three times this season and neither have been for “defense”. That’s just something you have made up b/c you hate d’Arnaud.

    d’Arnaud was taken out of a game in Cincy in a double switch b/c he made the last out in the previous inning and Farnsworth was due up and was expected to finish the 7th and pitch again in the 8th.

    d’Arnaud was taken out of a game in Arizona in a double switch to allow Torres to pitch multiple innings and avoid batting for himself.

    The same thing occurred on opening day as the Mets double switched in Recker b/c the pitchers spot in the 10th inning and Lannan was expected to pitch multiple innings.

    You are wrong again you little racist you.

  • Rocky Thompson

    I did not buy the explanation that Duda would have been out at 3B anyway. IMO he would have to be put back at 2B. What if Freeman did not make the throw and Duda continued on until he scored? Would he have been granted home? No. When the call being review is the 3rd out it has to be a dead play after the call is made by the umpire.

  • Rocky Thompson

    It has been widely speculated that the PTBNL is a 2013 draft pick. It makes sense from a Mets prospective because a 2013 pick will not have to be put on the 40-man roster at the end of the season and the Mets will have a 40-man roster crunch.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    So would David wright get switched out for Wilmer Flores to push the pitchers spot back ????

    Lmaoooooo

    The thirst u sandinanistas have

  • dnotch

    Wow! Do you just remember all that? Impressive.

  • gary s

    So many Mets have struck out looking this year, i wonder if part of their hitting philosophy is to have Teufel flash the take sign on most 0-2 pitches.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Hey Joey,

    That is a legit question. Arizona’s pitching is awful. However, I don’t think Harang was throwing “no hit” type stuff last night. Especially in the last couple of innings. Our guys were fouling back hanging sliders that were middle of the plate. There just seems to be an offensive malaise for us at Citi Field. I don’t understand it.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I remember one ball that Travis drove to the warning track in LF last night. But I also remember at least one hanging slider that he fouled back.

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    But why didn’t Duda run harder? That’s on him. I see so many ball players that do not know or are just too damn lazy to learn the fundamentals of the game. If you are trying or committed yourself to take a base you go all out regardless of what is going on around you. You have plenty if time after reaching the base to find out what just happened. No players today just don’t know fundamental baseball and they make stupid mistakes.

  • Hotstreak

    I forgot, thanks.

  • @FrankVamosJr

    BREAKING NEWS: Player to be named later is a bag of chocolate donuts. After much speculation and guessing, of which many MLB insiders thought it’d be a sack of potatoes or even a bag of powdered donuts, Sandy Alderson has confirmed it was in fact a bag of chocolate donuts. “We really believe a bag of donuts fits in with our hitting philosophy,” said Alderson to reporters this morning.” The hitting philosophy Alderson alludes to is a recent report released on mets.com, which can best be summarized as a ground-breaking new strategy where hitters are encouraged to swing at strikes, and not swing at balls. “We believe with this passive-aggressive system of players being rewarded with hits when they swing at strikes, and walks when they don’t swing at balls will really prove beneficial to a productive offense.” That is, an offense that has seen a decrease in run production, batting average, and on-base percentage since this strategy was put into effect. When asked for his opinion on the trade, Terry Collins was as excited as can be. His comments, according to one source, were: “I’m just a puppet here, my time is short.” What we believe Terry Collins MEANT was “I can’t wait to slot the bag of chocolate donuts in right behind Jason Bay version 2, I mean Curtis Granderson, whom I’ll continue to bat clean-up even though I think he might have five hits the entire season, looks awful at the plate, and looks just as bad playing right field.” Curtis Granderson was signed in the off-season for $60,000,000 at 4 years as a 33 year old when his best years were clearly behind him, and which no other team was really competing for his services. Alderson was noted as saying he fits right into the Mets offensive strategy. “Most teams try to score actual runs in a game; we believe that a run we score in theoretical statistics is just as important,” Alderson confirms. Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo were recently interviewed to address how the Mets as an organization approach free agency. Perez was noted as saying: “Yea, it’s great, they pay you a ton of money… like way more than you’re worth, and you can suck, and not have to do anything!” More to follow.

  • Charley’s Twin

    105-145 at Citi since 2011.

  • Rocky Thompson

    He clearly slowed down after he heard the out call at 1B. To me, that is not being lazy. How far do you continue playing after a 3rd out call? If the rule is not that the play is dead after a 3rd out call, it will as soon as someone is hurt.

  • really a matter of cheering that we didn’t sign a guy who hasn’t looked very good in the early going while mocking those who insisted he’d be an instant superstar

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    He said it was a “consideration.” Don’t overblow it.

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    Yeah, but he knows the play could be challenged under the new rules so run as if the manager is going to challenge the play. Makes sense to me.

  • Hotstreak

    The sin was not getting rid of Reyes but getting less than FMV for him. Soon we will see what we got in the Ike trade the PTBNL. I also expect a 2013 Pirate draft pick.

  • metsaholic

    Oh please…you’re just being a jerk here. There is not a player in the world that would not stop after seeing the 3rd out call. That’s it! Inning over! No one thinks in that split second…yeah…I think TDA was safe, I’m going to run hard, until TC comes out to challenge the play. Ridiculous!

  • TC’s talking head

    Put 2 and 2 together and what do you get. We heard the comments he made, he considered it, he eventually did it, so what’s done is done. Lets hope the PTBNL is a good 1.

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    Please, it is beneath you to call a fellow Mets poster a jerk. Save those comments for the Wilpons. Anyway in a team meeting wouldn’t a manager say to his team, “Under the new rules I could come out and challenge a called out so if this is the third out you continue hard to the base because the play may not be over. Don’t take anything for granted.” This is what I would tell my players and I bet moist managers (well maybe not TC) have already had this talk.

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    Wow ! I though we lost a lot more games than that. I guess I wasn’t just paying that much attention. Usually when the other team scores the first run I go to something else. We do have something of a record. The Mets spend the least of all clubs replacing sawed off and broken bats.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Hotstreak,

    LOL, now you know what I mean about one saying he wants to re-build the Mets when it’s really all about rebuilding the “Sterling” Mets.

    And by that, you just made me think of that famous Twilight Zone episode which I think is a perfect example of legal double-talk in which a truth is different than what is meant to be implied ala Sandy Alderson but it is actually not a lie. Remember that alien coming to earth “to serve man”? For anyone not familiar with that episode from the classic early sixties series, aliens came to earth to offer us help in all ways and when asked why they wanted to do it they said their only intent was “to serve man”. The government had a book left by the aliens in which they could only decipher the title which was “to serve man” so they thought it had to be truth. Months later after we let ourselves fall under complete control of these benevolent beings from outer space and things were so much better, we deciphered more of that book and discovered “to serve man” was the title of a cook book.

    They were not lying at all, either.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I know. He did it just to save money. Carrying two left handed first basemen and clearing a roster spot wasn’t part of it at all.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    No such thing as “enough pitching.” Get the best player available. Pitcher or not.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Kenny,

    If that is the case – and it might for we have seen this team play so differently on the road – then one has to wonder if this was in Atlanta with Harang throwing the same exact stuff would the Mets have faired differently against him?

    But even though Citi Field is a pitcher’s park, there is still a thing called singles which it’s spacious dimensions would actually create more opportunities to get compared to a band box like Philadelphia where outfielders can play in more simply because there is no need to play deeper with the walls being closer. So some sinking line drives and Texas Leaguers that might not fall in in other parks would find a hole here at Citi and go for a base hit.

    Problem is that on this club singles are not considered something to strive for early in the count because those are not the type of hits that can cause “damage”. Know it sounds crazy because of the night and day differences of us hitting on the road compared to home, however, it’s as good a guess as any as to what is happening – a hitting coach trying to get us to hit a certain type of way in a ballpark that is not conducive to that type of “damage”?

  • MetsPedes

    This offense is putrid, and sweeping the DBdacks to me it’s no big deal. If there’s one team that right now sucks worst than us, is Arizona. Bottom line our offense is horrible, and we still have no major league hitter that can hit at citi field, besides the captain.

  • TheMetsMachine

    Correction we have 2 MLB hitters. The other is Murphy.

  • TheMetsMachine

    9th round draft pick?

  • metsaholic

    In all of the discussions of the new rules, between managers, players, fans, broadcasters and writers, not one time have I read or heard the idea that:

    “Under the new rules (a manager) could come out and challenge a called out so if
    this is the third out you continue hard to the base because the play may
    not be over. Don’t take anything for granted.”

    Not once have I heard this quote or similar! And I’ll tell you this…some of the comments I’ve read about TC have just crossed the line beyond stupid – to fans just being jerks, because they hate TC so much. I’m not a TC fan, but I don’t think he’s the dumbest man alive. Most managers including TC, I’m sure tell players “don’t take things for granted” “run out every play…until they call you out.” In the history of baseball that’s how it’s been played. People are just looking for reasons to bash the manager or their least favorite player.

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    Well apparently Duda didn’t do what TC told him to do according to your knowledge of the game of baseball, or maybe TC never said such a thing.

  • metsaholic

    Well apparently you can’t read and are in fact a jerk. We’re all just speculating here. But I’m willing to bet I’m right and you’re wrong.

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    Now you’ve gone and done it. You got my wife pissed off too. I toid her she was the only one who could call me a jerk! PS: Anyone who goes by the name “metsaholic” takes this game way tooooo serious.

  • metsaholic

    Anyone whose on this blog takes the game way toooooo seriously. We’re in this boat together buddy.

  • louisrstennes@yahoo.com

    Yeah-I’ll drink to that. CHEERS!! Love the Mets!!

  • KennyandtheMets

    I have always thought that Citi has a “poor man’s” Coors Field type feel (ie., the large OF leading to more spaces for hits to fall). So, like you say, the Mets SHOULD get more base hits.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Kenny,

    Exactly. What it takes away in terms of power it does make up in terms of the outfielders playing back a bit more for having more outfield room to cover. It might not be in terms of them playing that much further back than normal positions but with many other parks built for hitting many outfielders play in more simply for they have less ground to cover going back – perfect example is left field in Fenway. Bill James is given credit by many for statistically proving that left field actually was a detriment to those hitting to left but as a teenager in the sixties I even saw that as I no doubt know the players knew that only too well.

    Sorry saber friends but that is also an example of not discovering things through advanced statistical analysis. With the green monster so short a distance, the left fielder is positioned more closely to the infield – why should he play normal depth which would put him close to the warning track? He can catch up to a fly ball hit to the track – any further and it’s off the wall anyway (this also allows him to be in perfect position to play the bounce off the wall). Not only does his playing further in allow him to get to those sinking liners and Texas leaguers, he’s also so close to the action that runners most of the time can only advance one base – even a weak throwing arm has the advantage playing so further in. And, as we saw last Fall in post season, what would have been a grand slam home run in most other parks was only a bases loaded single that scored just one run because green monster prevented the hard hit fly ball from going out and the left fielder played the bounce perfectly that only one run scored.

    So that shows that Met hitters actually do have an advantage playing in Citi Field but the advantage is in getting those base hits that do not cause the “damage” that this organization believes one should get by working the count and hunting for a certain type pitch. Theoretically that might very well be why they hit better on the road – many of the ball parks are conducive to causing that type of damage.
    Remember what TC said at the opening of the season – that one doesn’t have to hit home runs to score a run, a few singles can accomplish the same thing. Too bad he doesn’t have influence over the general manager’s hand picked hitting coach for if so, Hudgens would be told by TC to straighten out or ship out for that was not the first time TC has hinted a disagreement with this hitting approach. Last year he told Juan Lagares to forget about working the count and just go up and hit. The year before he told the same thing to Ike Davis. Despite all the criticism thrown at him, considering whom he works for – and their lack of tolerance for anyone not conforming to their line of thinking – Terry does have some guts doing that and has to be respected.

  • Anthony

    Your dealing with a ten year old ignore him

  • Fonzie

    Now you’re comparing a rookie catcher to a perennial all-star. But then again Buck Showalter double switched cleanup hitter Matt Williams out of an elimination game in which the Mets won in extras when Todd Pratt hit a walkoff so I guess you could double switch a big time 3rd baseman out of a game in April.

  • Fonzie

    Well done putting that POS in his place.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    Ok so its not about “strategy” and pushing the pitchers spot back…

    This is a reflection on TDA. Like it or not.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I don’t know if I agree with you on Terry’s guts. If he was that brave he wouldn’t have resigned with a team that tries to control him so much. I do agree that the team’s offensive philosophy is poorly suited to the ballpark.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Kenny,

    I said guts – not stupidity. He does need the job, ya know. 🙂

  • oleosmirf

    Yes TDA is not as good as David Wright and therefore is worthy of getting double switched for. The same can and should be said for every single player on the roster not named David Wright.

    Once again though you made up stuff to promote your racist agenda and you were proven wrong once again.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    It never happens with anyone performing well….

    Acknowledge that and become a racist ???

    Bwahahahaha

  • Fast Eddie

    Wow, that sure was fun! Aaron Harang bamboozled the Mets with his 88-mph fastball. Maybe having to play at Citi Field screws with the Mets’ heads.

    My solution: a round of enemas for the entire starting lineup.

    Veloz

  • Fast Eddie

    I love it!

    Veloz

  • Hotstreak

    Hi Joey D.

    I was spared tonight as I missed the game. I was out and just got back. I remember that Twilight Zone episode well. SA mission is to serve the Wilpons period. Serve in the “help” and not “eat” way. SA would never last as a CEO of a major company on the S&P. Stockholders would fire him but Met fans also stakeholders as customers and their emotion invested have to resort to a blog in order to vent their anger. Otherwise you do what that crazy fan did. Take care.