MMO Game Thread: Cardinals vs Mets at 1:05 PM

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Cardinals vs Mets, 1:05 PM, Tradition Field

Third baseman David Wright will finally play in his first Grapefruit League game today at Tradition Field when the Mets take on the St. Louis Cardinals.

Second baseman Daniel Murphy will also make his first appearance of the Spring. Both players are healthy, but were held out by Terry Collins in an effort to lessen their risk for injury. Murphy and Wright missed significant time last spring with oblique injuries.

Shortstop Ruben Tejada is in today’s lineup against the Cards after being sidelined for nearly a week by a tight hamstring. Tejada is still battling to maintain his hold on the starting shortstop job.

John Lannan was originally scheduled to start Thursday’s rained-out game against the Houston Astros, but will pitch in relief today as the Mets give Daisuke Matsuzaka the starting assignment. Rafael Montero and Steven Matz are also due to pitch.

Here are this afternoon’s lineups:

Mets

Eric Young, LF
Daniel Murphy, 2B
David Wright, 3B
Curtis Granderson, RF
Chris Young, CF
Josh Satin, 1B
Travis d’Arnaud, C
Kirk Nieuwenhuis, DH
Ruben Tejada, SS

Cardinals

Jon Jay, CF
Kolten Wong, 2B
Matt Holliday, DH
Jhonny Peralta, SS
Daniel Descalso, 3B
Scott Moore, 1B
Randal Grichuk, LF
Oscar Taveras, RF
Tony Cruz, C

Thoughts:

As some beat writers have already pointed out this morning, this lineup today comes close to resembling the Opening Day lineup. All that’s really missing is the winner of the Ike Davis and Lucas Duda competition at first base. However Satin should play regularly against left-handed pitching anyway.

Tejada has a lot of ground to make up even though he has no real competition for shortstop on the roster. Anthony Seratelli has opened some eyes, but mostly as a utility bench option.

I’m really looking forward to seeing this 1-5 in the lineup today. If the Mets are seriously going to have a winning season, it’s going to begin right there.

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  • SRT

    If the choice is Q or Seratelli for the 25th bench utility guy, I’d rather see Seratelli.
    Of course, I’d rather see an upgrade to SS to begin with but the closer we get to OD, the less likely that seems.

    The Mets know what they’ve got in EYJ. I’d rather see more of Lagares in the ST line-ups, The only way they’re really going to know if he can hit enough is with regular at bats to evaluate.

  • I am kinda freaking out today after seeing those lineups. I might need to march on Washington. Lagarus needs to start especially against lefties.

    https://twitter.com/SaltyGary/status/441949358163247104

  • CJM

    It’s ST.

  • Per Jared Diamond: Against left-handed pitchers, you’re probably looking at your regular-season Mets lineup today, excluding the DH, of course.

    Per Adam Rubin: Remove Kirk/DH and put Ike or Duda at 1B instead of Satin and that’s your potential Opening Day lineup assuming EY Jr. as leadoff hitter.

  • Benny

    “I might need to march on Washington.”

    LOL!

    You can always go the Knicks fandom route and organize a protest.

  • I am so glad I am not a Knicks fan. I think they have it way worse. Wilpon’s are tools but Dolan is an a-hole.

  • Waz0787

    I appreciate collins still believes in Kirk.

  • Benny

    “The Mets know what they’ve got in EYJ. I’d rather see more of Lagares in the ST line-ups, The only way they’re really going to know if he can hit enough is with regular at bats to evaluate.”

    It’s a competition between the two, so I have no problem with them getting about the same amount of starts in ST.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I think as spring training winds down, teams will look to trade strengths for weaknesses. I’m pretty confident that Tejada will be replaced. I’d like to see a trade for one of the usual suspects (Owings, Franklin, Gregarious), but would not be opposed to Hak-Ju Lee from Tampa Bay.

  • Agee’s Catch

    take cover. The Lagares fan club is ready to pounce

  • Agee’s Catch

    Your going to get people to train out to flushing just to protest? #goodluckwiththat

  • Biggle Boy

    It’s unbelievable that neither Davis nor Duda are available to play, yet. If neither one gets enough ABs to make a clear decision on who goes North, then I can imagine one will be in Vegas. Will be interesting to watch what happens.

    BTW Keith said the other day that you can’t expect players to change the swing they’ve had since high school. Seeing Ike’s swing being not much different than late 2013, I could foresee them cutting him before his full arb contract kicks in.

  • Benny

    I don’t see why. Lagares has played in 4 games, while EYJ has only played in 2 games. EYJ starting today has no bearing whatsoever on what the Opening Day will eventually be. Just let the competition play out…

  • Charley’s Twin

    Tejada is too high in the order.

  • Benny

    LMAO!!!

  • Agee’s Catch

    There’s a segment here that feel Lagares earned his spot last year and that the hitting will mature this season.

  • Benny

    And that “segment” includes me, but what’s fair is fair, and the competition should be fair.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Uh oh. EY leading off. Everyone duck and cover! The sky is falling!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    They have both played. Now they’re both hurt.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I’m torn on the idea that David Wright is still a home run hitter. Granderson, granted, at Yankee Stadium, has shown a ton of power over the past few seasons. Anyone want to bat him third and Wright fourth?

  • Agee’s Catch

    In Tony Larussa’s line up, I believe he would be hitting 8th….

  • Alex68

    Let’s go METS!

  • Fast Eddie

    Actually he should be hitting 8th…………for Las Vegas in Triple A.

  • Biggle Boy

    Right, they both played for about 5 minutes! And now they’re both hurt. Great.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    And Wright and Murphy are just playing now. Wanna give em crap for that?

  • Fast Eddie

    Terry also still believes in sun dials to tell time. 🙂

  • Biggle Boy

    They were held out by Collins. You understand that’s not the same thing, right? And as far as your giving “crap” comment, I was simply acknowledging that 2 players – Davis and Duda – who are fighting for their lives, are now both hurt. So the decision on who stays is all the more difficult. Lighten up.

  • RyanF55

    So excited to see Tejada! (Sarcasm)

  • CJM

    “Potential Opening Day lineup.”

  • and who is Terry going to start a kid or a vet? Too much proof to not be concerned.

  • CJM

    No. The best hitter should hit third, and Wright is definitely a better hitter than Granderson. That being said, Granderson has always had power–he put 30 out in Detroit, and during his years with the Yankees, he’s had good road splits (especially 2011). Granderson should maintain his power. And if he can revert back to the kind of hitter he was in Detroit, he’ll be a huge asset. But still the 4th hitter and not the 3rd.

  • Benny

    “I am so glad I am not a Knicks fan.”

    Thanks for sympathizing… 🙂

  • MyasDaddy

    If we bat Granderson 4th, who is hitting 5th? I’d hate to stack double lefties in our lineup. Granderson followed by Ike/Duda or Murphy. It would be nice to see TDA claim that 5th spot in the lineup, to break up the lefties.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    He had great home run power with A-Rod behind him. Now he’ll have…who? Ike Davis?

    Granderson strikes out a lot. Put the better hitter behind him and maybe he’ll see more fastballs, not wanting to put him on ahead of Wright. Not to mention, you split up the lefties. The Mets signed Granderson for his power and we should try to optimize it as much as possible.

    Just a thought.

  • Agee’s Catch

    Double the misery.
    I can’t understand why Woodson still has a job.
    I wouldn’t blame Melo if he bolted
    Should have amnestied Amare when they could have. This think would look a hole lot different if they had kept Billups and let Amare go.

  • somedude718

    I would prob think CY. I would bet that the hope is that CY will do well from the 5-spot, we can off-load him at the deadline for prospects, and either slot in Puello (assuming he does well in AAA; I think he will) or move TDA up in the lineup (if his bat is as advertised) and slot Puello behind Duda/Davis at 7th.

  • CJM

    Him striking out a lot is a reason not to bat him 3rd. Again, you want the best hitter 3rd, and Wright is the best hitter. The protection argument works both ways–look what Wright did when he had protection in the lineup. Also, Granderson has always had great power, regardless of who was behind him, hence the 30 HRs in Detroit.

  • CJM

    Having consecutive lefties is not the biggest deal in the world. Plus there is Chris Young.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    30 home runs with Magglio Ordonez, not Ike Davis, behind him.

    Ok. Just a thought.

  • Alex68

    There was an article here when reyes left, or not sure if it was a commenter who was actually happy that reyes left, that said “Tejada’s pretty good”… my first thought was, damn, he might be right, but then it dawn on me that he hated Reyes so his “love” for tejada wasn’t geniune… 2 years later, that same person hates tejada as much or even more than he hates Reyes..

  • Alex68

    define HR hitter…. Wright’s production have been declining rapuidly and his 2005-2008 years are long gone.. i guess we’ll be happy with 20 80 type of production from him even though we’ll be paying him $20 million per year for the next 5 years for maybe 2 or 3 more seasons like that…
    Remember, since 2011 the man’s avg
    12 gms 291 17 71 so… Remember, the lower the expectations, the lower the disappointment..

  • CJM

    Dolan’s hubris will always keep that team down. If he would just hire competent basketball people, the Knicks could be a perennial championship contender. Players want, to play in NY. They could contend for every free agent. The killer is that they actually draft well, too, but their personnel moves are horrendous. The Nuggets sure will enjoy the Knicks’ draft pick this year.

  • CJM

    Dolan’s not just an a-hole; he’s purely an idiot. Dolan is similar to Jeff Wilpon–born on third base, thinks he hit a triple.

  • Back in the 2008 MetsBlog days I would get crushed for advocating trading Reyes.My reasoning was purely that the Mets Core at that time wasn’t getting it done and I felt that Reyes had more return value along with him being a more of a risk as a long term solution over Wright.

    The year he left I was fine trading him still but that injury screwed everything up and the way he was departed was all botched up. Anyone actually thinking that Tejada was a suitable replacement was in complete denial. He had no experience and his minor league numbers never suggested he was a starting SS. Having him still in the lineup is one of Sandy’s huge failures. How can you say we should act like a 90 win team but you ignore the position. You know I am not a Sandy hater but this lack of attention is BS.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    See, now I’d get into a discussion with you, but you just want to complain so I’m not really sure it’s worth my time.

    Are we really going to act surprised that his numbers dipped when they put him in a larger ballpark and took away all his lineup protection?

  • NewYorkMammoths

    Terry believes in sun dial wristwatches to tell time.

  • Alex68

    Gary, exactly why imo we should’ve thought LONG and HARD about keeping wright as well.. i wanted him traded because i felt his 2012 season was going to be one of his last really good ones as he’s getting older. we could’ve had viable replacements in case he was traded like Flores and/or Murphy, and who knows what we could’ve gotten back in return, even remember the Nolan and Willin R for him trade on the table!? yet, we’re stuck with him, we have no SS, he’s basically 23% of our payroll and on our 3rd year since reyes left, we still have no SS, we still not a winning team of any measure but hey, at least we have wright up until 2021 so, that’s good i guess…

  • MyasDaddy

    It is a bigger deal later in games. Bastardo, Venters, etc. Those guys will murder us with consecutive lefties late in games.

  • Alex68

    Well, didn’t you get the memo!? since 2011 complain in MMO is speaking the truth…. and since you CAN’T handle the truth about your beloved captain, you choose the high road to your idiotic comment about being torn on wright being a HR hitter… FOH…

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Haha. Can’t handle the truth, don’t believe you’re capable of having a conversation that doesn’t involve talking about yourself “speaking the truth” or “Sandy lovers” or how we should have traded Wright and how we’re “stuck with him.”

    Same thing.

    I choose the high road because there’s no point talking about what they should or shouldn’t have done. All you ever do is criticize the past because you rely on hindsight for everything.

  • WillisReid

    You should give yourself a high 5.

  • Flatbush0460

    Excellent comment

  • Alex68

    We as fans of this pathetic franchise have lower the bar and expectations so low, that we are willing to celebrate a GM with 9 straight losing seasons, consider a guy who’s average 18 hr per season the last 5 seasons a HR hitter and winning 74+ games a success……
    We’ve reached maximun pathetic level..

  • Agee’s Catch

    During Reyes walk year, Tejada hit .284 with a .360 OBP. I think his outlook at the time was pretty good. Tejada did hit .289 in 2012, but his plate discipline suffered as his OBP dropped to .333.

    So based on his 2011 performance, Mets fans (and management) had reason to be optimistic about Tejada. After 2013, that optimism proved false. Hindsight has to work both ways.

  • Phoenix Met

    You disagree with Alex, which is obviously fine. But there is no hindsight there. He advocated trading Wright to improve the team for a few years now and he, along with some others, got destroyed for it.

  • Someone who shall remain unnamed emailed me this:

    “Now that you’ve inherited our dregs, lets see how long you can continue to interact in the comments before you say WTF and never respond to anyone else again.”

    Was that supposed to be some kind of ominous warning? 🙂

  • Alex68

    But he wasn’t needed to be an offensive player, just a good 2B who fit the perfect role of 2nd hitter sandwich between Reyes and Wright. i believe he would’ve been perfect for 2B with Reyes at SS because they gave us the best defense on the middle and a good to very good double play combination… of course, this FO as usual, outsmarting themselves let reyes go for free and till this day they haven’t found a SS or a leadoff hitter….

  • Agee’s Catch

    There are a couple of factors to consider. Shea v Citi, who is protecting him. health.
    2013: In 2/3 of a season he hit 18. 25-26 wouldn’t have been out of the question over a full season.

  • Charley’s Twin

    well, Cerrone and his buddies can get bent.

  • Benny

    Kind of offended at the “dregs” label.

  • WillisReid

    Well considering your grammar, spelling ability and actual baseball knowledge are miles beyond anyone at MB, it shouldn’t be a problem.

    I’m assuming “dregs” are the folks who don’t give one word comments via facebook.

  • Why are you the only one allowed to hate players? It seems all day long you’re bouncing around saying I hate this and I hate that, but as soon as someone else says something similar you want to make a federal case out of it?

    You are something else… What exactly, I’m not sure, so we will leave it at something else. 🙂

  • Agee’s Catch

    Perfect storm? He was hurt at the trade deadline. Fred didn’t think he was worth it, considering his injury history. I agree that Sandy’s biggest mistake was not getting something for him.

    On 7/29/2011, the team was 4 games over .500 (55-51) and 6.5 games out of the wild card. We were all rooting for a run. you couldn’t start to dismantle at that point.

  • Alex68

    Lol….. we both know which was the best email you’ve ever gotten …

  • I’ve never used the word before, but obviously I see it used very often. I had to look it up:

    “The remnants of a liquid left in a container, together with any sediment or grounds.”

    I wouldn’t be offended though. People sometimes say the dumbest things.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I am sure you will make it through it like the true soldier you are.

    Besides, you have Alex68 to help you with take on the “dregs” in the comment section.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I’m still hoping he tells us how he really feels…..

  • Benny

    You missed the second definition:

    “the most undesirable part”

  • Alex68

    Phoenix, i am still glad to see the likes of you and others here… .you can’t talk baseball with these know it all a$*holes who think they got it all figure out and know every conversation that was said in here 3-4 years ago.. smh… and again, to think we lost Maniac and Metsie and others, and replaced them with them….

  • I was hoping you didn’t see that part. 🙂

  • MyasDaddy

    Metsblog is dead! RAHAHAHA! That’s is what they get, I hope this site can be as every good as their site used to be. Keep up the good work.

  • Sylow59

    There are no typos; as such it can’t be anyone from MetaBlog.

  • Agee’s Catch

    Dregs v Core in a steel caged match of rapier wit…..

  • Benny

    ” I hope this site can be as every good as their site used to be.”

    It already is, actually it’s better.

  • MyasDaddy

    It is… until I noticed you were here. 😛

  • Benny

    BOOM!!!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    One of the “dregs”?

  • Sylow59

    Matt probably couldn’t spell Benny.

    P.s. it’s a joke.

  • MyasDaddy

    I can honestly say Benny, I like our conversations back and forth. Even though we see things differently, I admire your fandom.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Alex,

    We went over this. A few things came into play in the Reyes situation.

    1. The FO should have traded Reyes but it might not have been an option. To start, Reyes was hurt in July that season spending time on the DL which didnt bode well for his value. Also, Wilpon still owned the team and ticket sales are always on his mind. Shedding Reyes after Beltran and KRod might have been too much for Fred to swallow. It is the same logic I use to see why they (Wilpons) extended Wright…the idea of an empty Citi Field was too much to bear even though it could have made the most baseball sense.

    2. As is the case in FA, it only takes on crazy team to blow everyone else away. With Reyes, Miami set up the perfect hoax for him. Loria had no intention of fulfilling that contract so he piled all the money on Jose that was needed to get him to sign. The only requirement was forgoing the no trade clause (isnt that almost standard in all deals 5 years or longer but was missing in this case). Hence he was unloaded a year later.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I’m sure they missed us the other day when a couple of us got into it with Andrew Vazzano. I actually don’t blame him personally, but he is an obnoxiously obedient puppy.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Wright is a hitter who can hit homeruns but he isnt a homerun hitter.

    He is good for a .300 BA, 20 HRs and 90 RBIs. This is fine production (and better than all of the other Mets).

    Grandy is still a legitimate HR hitter. People attribute his success to Yankee Stadium but almost half his HRs in his back to back 40 HR seasons were on the road. So it wasnt all the stadium.

  • Sylow59

    Idea: we should all get new names at MB – Dreg01, Dreg02, …

  • Sylow59

    It appears they already are.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I’m game.
    edit: On second thought… The other day was the first day I had commented there since late December. It was the day they didn’t get their game thread up until the 3rd inning. I also think (for me at least) it would be disrespectful to Joe D. It’s not exactly like dating, but stalking your “ex” isn’t cool to the one your with. Sorry if that was a bit TMI…

  • Taskmaster4450

    So what are you saying? Should they be out there playing with a bad hammy (Duda) and bad calves (Ike)?

    They are hurt. I am sure that both players in addition to Collins want them to be out there. Injuries are a part of the game. Everyone has to deal with it.

  • Wolfmicky21

    Fixed!!!!

  • MyasDaddy

    But, that would entail actually going back. F-them, that is their fault for not paying attention to us. Let them die a slow and painful death.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Well, I see he commented that he wanted Wright gone because he thought 2012 would be his last good season. So, that’s two years ago. So he wanted him traded rather than extend him. The Mets would probably be the same team they are now if they had traded Wright in 2012.

  • Benny

    Cerrone must still be butt-hurt about the time he got ripped to pieces in the comments section. It was a classic!

  • Sylow59

    Agee and I were on a thread with Andrew over there giving him some advise. It appears I am a dreg for wanting their site to be better. How adult of them.

  • mets4lyfe

    I really don’t agree with EYJ over Lagares. Then again, I’m not too surprised by it considering Terry Collins is the manager.

  • Alex68

    Do i hate players personally!? like, race wise!? i could care less about color or where you from, if you as a mets player suck, i’ll let it be know. i am equally tough on everyone, HOWEVER. we both know mets fans specially many in here who sit behind a computer who are straight up RA(ISTS and hate latino players.. some ppl in here would hate perez, castillo, delgado, reyes, beltran for no reason, yet ppl like Jason Bay and others go hell of a pass…. FOH… if you looking for a word to describe me is honest and consistant unlike many ppl you got here, including the new “bunch” of bloggers you acquired from that other shi*** mets blog site…

  • MyasDaddy

    Is there a way it could copied and pasted? I would’ve loved to have seen it.

  • Erin_II

    Looks like that email was sent by Cerrone, after Vazzano did some editing. Seems like I`ve seen him use the word “dregs” on twitter recently, in a different context than insulting his former readers. I don`t see how you can put this email out there and not tell us who sent it, Joe. Either full disclosure, or keeping it to yourself, would have been better, IMO.
    That said, I wish someone would punch that untalented, awkward creep right in his throat.

  • MyasDaddy

    LOL! He is a creeper isn’t he?

  • Agee’s Catch

    Which time?

  • Sylow59

    Which time?

    There was one time he got all hot and bothered after I corrected his grammar (like fishing with dynamite). He posted a link in his defense. However, said link proved my point. Good times

  • Erin_II

    Yes. But not on the same level as Michael “jockstrap” Baron is.

  • mets4lyfe

    you mean “pitching analyst”?

  • Erin_II

    You`ll have to be more specific.

  • MyasDaddy

    You hit the nail on the head. One of the major problems with this organization is Terry Collins as manager.

  • Agee’s Catch

    They feed Andrew to the wolves, don’t they?

  • Sylow59

    Agree, but it sounds like fun. Especially after that thread with Andrew over there.

  • WOW, just wow.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    to me that confirms his site has taken a big hit in traffic. Im SURE SNY isn’t happy about that. Also that dosnt sound like hes much of a nice guy.

  • NewYorkMammoths

    Wow, he’s really losing it. Next steps at MetsBlog: Assign blame and shoot the wounded.

  • Charley’s Twin

    He banned me for commenting that one of his posts was a “Wet, smelly digital fart.”

  • SRT

    You are nothing, if not consistent Alex.

    Sorry…I couldn’t resist. 🙂

  • Erin_II

    Yeah, and I don`t really see Vazzano or Baron as being the type to use that tone. So, who`s that leave, Maggie? Lets get her!

  • Benny

    LMFAO!!!

  • Phoenix Met

    “The Mets would probably be the same team they are now if they had traded Wright in 2012”

    Possibly so. My point was that he wasn’t dealing in “hindsight” in regards to Wright is all.

    BTW, I enjoyed the discussion between you and CJM on the batting order.

  • Agee’s Catch

    There are obviously many of us here from MB. Has Cver made it over here? Old Backstop? They added a lot to the mix. There’s a few others that just drove me crazy, but I won’t mention them by name.

  • Benny

    It was during his “Harvey will never win a Cy Young Award” thread I believe. He was all over the comments section trying to defend his statement, but to no avail.

  • MyasDaddy

    Isn’t that part of the fun? Agreeing to disagree on many different topics? When you have a wall post full of comments with many different points and views, it makes everything more enjoyable.

  • somedude718

    On the bright side, we did get plawecki as a compensatory pick for Reyes’ departure. Don’t know how that will turn out, but looks like a decent return right now. We’ve made worse trades.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    It’s not really EY vs. Lagares. It’s EY vs. everyone else on the team for lead off. Having the only decent leadoff candidate leadoff could…could…could come at the expense of Lagares.

  • MyasDaddy

    That single-handedly may have been the true downfall of Metsblog. I remember reading that and thinking wow… and then the comments piling on Cerrone for that was truly epic.

  • Agee’s Catch

    It’s not really Andrew’s fault. Not even sure how much of it is Cerrone’s. The typos and inaccuracies are one thing, but the other stuff is above his pay grade.

  • NewYorkMammoths

    On the rare occasions when Cerrone would post in the comments, it would usually be to angrily fight with people.

  • strake

    That is a ridiculous statement

  • They keep running around saying wait we are getting record traffic. But, when you see Amazing Avenue get 2000 comments on a live game thread (they have about 20 hardcore posters plus others) and you see the comment count here over 300 while MB was at 20 it is obvious they have taken a hit. Overall they are just more off their game then in the past. I am sure they get tons of traffic from non-commentators that just want news but I am sure the comments keep driving the additional clicks.

  • MyasDaddy

    How so?

  • Agee’s Catch

    It was a lot of fun. But to tell someone who may eventually come over here I thought they were a shortstop shy of a starting nine might not be the best course of action.

  • Alex68

    You are nothing, if not consistent Alex.”

    THIS^^^^^^^^

  • Alex68

    Well, we’ll see… they’re prospects and as you know, prospects are a scrapshoot… terrible decision imo

  • Agee’s Catch

    And Joe D. alias “freaking genius” has already pushed this thread over 125 comments. I feel used!

  • Agee’s Catch

    didn’t realize that. thanks!

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    generating random traffic is ok I guess, but having REAL Met fans posting and adding CONTENT is the key to a web business. It will only get worse for them IMO.

  • Erin_II

    “Keep doing what you`re doing. You know I`ve been in County a few times, right?”

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    I know you have a special distaste for Baron, but I kinda like the guy.

    I’ve corresponded with him, and he seems humble. He’s improved his writing, and even taken some admirable stands in his articles (that are subsequently revised or taken down to reduce controversy).

    Obviously, I still poke fun at his Wright helmet pics, but I’d still do that if I was having a beer with the guy.

  • NewYorkMammoths
  • Benny

    Actually it’s “Pitching Analysis.”

  • It at least creates brand loyalty, something that he is absolutely losing.

  • *Flagged

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    the 10 people who currently post there will get real board soon, and google a new location to talk mets.

  • When’s the last time Baron’s posted anything? Also Vazzano has been doing all the photography. I’m wondering if Baron’s being photoshopped out of the family photo?

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    lol calling hit former readers dregs…. lol burning bridges and making things worse.

  • Erin_II

    I have always speculated that him and Cerrone are the same people, always making similar errors and holding similar opinions.

  • Comment counts are not a big deal to me.

    Most sites that use Disqus monetize it and that’s why you see all those weird articles like Top 10 Baseball Wives or 25 Ultimate Bikini Bods.

    When Disqus asked me to monetize I declined. I didn’t want all those weird non Mets stores clogging up the site.

    Long story short, there’s no extra nickels for us whether we get one comment or one thousand.

    And with that…

    Lets go Mets!

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    This just highlights his delusional narcissism.

    You’ll never have this problem with the dregs, Joe.

    Why? Because of your commitment to quality, to original content, and to community. Because of your positive, down-to-earth interactions here in the comments section. And because your readership recognizes all this.

    What happened to him (at his own site) didn’t happen overnight. It occurred gradually, in response to many, many choices he made—choices stemming from arrogance, long-term ineptitude, and laziness, mostly.

    You care too much about this place to run it like a low-rent, gossip-site flophouse.

  • I’m surprised he shared his thoughts on commenters publicly. Even if he was joking, why say that on Twitter? Isn’t that breaking one the 10 Digital Social Media Commandments?

  • According to Alexa traffic has taken a hit. Traffic should be up from December especially now that the the season is starting and there is something to talk about. You can see the dip when the comment section change occurred.

    http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/metsblog.com

  • mr mojo risin

    Having Sid Fernandez on their poll for All Time Mets “RHP” was a classic as well

  • Also just keep in mind this is not their exact numbers it is a outside source gathering it so take it with a grain of salt.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Agree 100%.

  • and he got so defensive when people called him out on it.

  • Erin_II

    You`re right, I really can`t stand the guy. He really has very limited baseball knowledge, let alone a solitary shred of writing ability, yet always comes off like he has a superior understanding of the game, because Cerrone lets him post a few dull articles on the blog. He never interacts in the comment section, never fixes his inexcusable factual errors. I mean c’mon, the guy, half the time, could not pull it together enough to post an accurate pregame lineup, often having 2 second basemen or 2 CF. It just doesn`t get much simpler than posting a lineup that you just copied from Adam Rubin`s blog.

  • Biggle Boy

    I said it’s unbelievable that now, with the Mets trying to decide which one stays, neither guy is able to play! And I never said, nor implied they are not hurt. Nor did I say they should play if hurt. Clear enough for you?

  • OK no more MB talk just the game. You are like a bunch of divorced “men hating” ladies right now.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Just like every other time he’s received criticism. btw, thanks for challenging his nonsense on Twitter.

  • bobblehead

    Welcome back Wright and Murph!

  • Fast Eddie

    Right on…

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    I’d bet Vazzano replaced him. Vazzano’s a much more devoted minion than Baron ever was.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    “I may be small, but I’m stupid.”

  • Well I told you before and I’ll tell you again.

    I’ve been gritting my teeth at some of the stuff I’m seeing from you and others. But once the season starts I’m hammering home our comment guidelines which you can read under the admin menu choice.

    You better get out of this habit of attacking other readers no matter where they are from, because I’m not going to tolerate it after March 31.

    Time for you to assimilate old friend.

    And don’t think I didn’t notice you going after Connor after you promised me in December that you would no longer comment on his posts or harass him.

  • Agreed. Onward and Upward, it’s Game Time! LGM

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    got to make “the people” happy or they will leave.
    (if you build it they will come BUT if you break it they will leave))

  • The SNY open always gets me juiced.

  • oleosmirf

    Chris Schwinden still on the Mets?

  • His twitter account still reflects that but I don;t think he is in camp.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Mets baseball! Welcome back to the lineup Murph & D Wright! Work went by much slower yesterday due to the rainout..GK&R make the day better and go by faster!

  • Alex68

    Get that money though… that’s my humble opinion, in here none of us are truly your friend and the guys who at some point helped you are long gone because you chose this new system to have more “bloggers” in the site. which, in short tells me you DO care about comments etc..

  • Alex68

    Just like maniac and metsie, my days in this “new” and “improved” MMO are counted…. might as well make the best of them and speak the truth as i always have…

  • Canoli220

    Kinda off topic but did MLB.com Game Day get rid of Game Day mini? I can’t seem to find it. Is it just because of spring training? Mini is useful at work.

  • Benny

    Don’t get rid of him. He’s an entertainment factor at this point, well at least to me he is.

  • Are you looking for a game cast or radio feed?

  • That was a total Gyro-ball on the K, I can tell

  • Benny

    So are you leaving or are you intentionally trying to make Joe ban you?

  • Metsaholic

    D-K is lucky that ball did not hit his hand. Why is he sticking out his pitching hand to catch a liner back to him? Crazy.

  • CJM

    Wow TdA just unleashed a government issued laser.

  • Metsaholic

    Off the glove of Tejada in the hole. Tough play?

  • Canoli220

    the game cast. The thing we can get directly from mlb.com. I don’t have any paid subscriptions.

  • Not again, my game went black.

  • Dan

    Where can I see the game?

  • Benny

    SNY

  • mr mojo risin

    could’ve knocked it down at the least

  • Metsaholic

    I’m on the MLB.tv feed of the SNY broadcast. No problem so far.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Ya , woulda been nice to keep it on the infield, and save a run.

  • Peter S

    Pretty sure 99% of SS grab the ball and hold the runner at 3rd

  • Let me rephrase that. I care only about the “quality” and “substance” of comments, not the number of them. I’m focused on building a Mets community not a blog empire.

    You’re welcome to be a part of it, just try to show your passion without the need for insults.

  • Goto to the home page and click on the diamond in the scoreboard.

    Here is direct link:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_03_07_slnmlb_nynmlb_1&mode=gameday

  • CJM

    I like that the broadcast team is willing to speak openly about PEDs here. Very good conversation they’re having here.

  • Peter S

    And we are worried about Flores at SS.

  • MLB.TV

  • Metsaholic

    Wondering…could Flores have even touched it?

  • Agee’s Catch

    That being said, no one here would mind you making a few bucks off of it. And who are these hot baseball wives?

  • Fast Eddie

    Well, barring a last minute Stephen Drew signing which now seems unlikely, this is pretty much the team we’re going with..so lets see what we got and where we are. LGM!

  • oleosmirf

    no they showed him on the SNY feed doing drills. He’s not in big league camp though, but I completely forgot about him.

  • Guess I’ll grab my tablet and log on to that. Thanks.

  • mr mojo risin

    would depend on the positioning, but his height alone may have helped

  • oleosmirf

    vipbox.tv

  • IndianaMet

    Good to see Grandy call off murph and catch that pop up. Murph butchered a bunch of those last year. They should be easy outs. Byrd was good defensively but there is no comparison in the speed with CG.

  • Metsaholic

    Good point.

  • Alex68

    @njBenny:disqus Benny, i speak for many mets fans who feel as i do about this FO and the way the org is been run down to the ground under our own eyes but can’t really say the way i do.

    to some people that’s confrontational to me!? just being honest to tell you the truth, others have left and this placed don’t feel the same without them and it’s truly a shame, all because Joe chose to increase the “popularity” of MMO which is fine, it’s his blog and he can do anything he likes, but seeing how most of the new commenters speak about cerrone in here makes me wonder how soon till they do the same to Joe D and hijack every thread and every article bashing him and his authors with no mercy!? if he decides to ban me come march 31st so be it, but i won’t change who i am and my view of the mets until i see otherwise, it’s my opinion and i am sticking to it because i’ve been right since these Geniuses arrived and that’s what bothers them.

    IMO, the whole “ban” talk is because of fear i will get into these new people’s head with the mets losing so much it’ll cause and create problems in here and joe wouldn’t want that so i understand…

  • RyanF55

    Exactly. He who shall remain nameless was lucky enough to fall into that blog. He is not a knowledgeable Met fan, and the content on his site is pathetic considering the tremendous access he’s afforded through a sports network that shall also remain nameless. Also worth noting, most 3rd graders have stronger grammatical skills than he who shall remain nameless. I do have to give credit that he is “dipping and swerving” though… hahaha what a joke.

  • CJM

    Oleo do you stream games solely?

  • Metsaholic

    Walks keep EY in the line up…ground outs don’t.

  • Mets

    Great AB by Murph
    10/10

  • Benny

    Good!

  • Peter S

    Don’t know because they don’t play him at SS.

  • oleosmirf

    no I have a slingbox, but I use vipbox for away games that aren’t televised

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    We’re being tough critics, and I only saw the play once, live — and yes, it’s only spring training, but if this was a game that counts, we’d all have been saying “wtf c’mon Tejada, jeez keep the ball in front of you” — and probably rightfully so.

  • CJM

    lolol. And coming off his acknowledgment that he doesn’t walk enough–first pitch swinging.

  • He did admit he has problems following Sandy’s plan.

  • IndianaMet

    Lol. First AB of the spring and he hacks at the first pitch any where near him. His BA may be higher than his OBP this year. Love the guy but he may need decaf.

  • Benny

    HA!

    Joe, please do not ban this guy. The humor I find in his comments is just irreplaceable.

  • Dice-K showing a nice curve today.

  • Well former MB people can start by not flagging his and BBLB’s comments all the time.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    And change-up looks like. That change to Taveras slowed down on it’s way to the plate, I’m pretty sure.

  • Granderson with some acrobatic movement in the outfield. Lol

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Why is Collins playing Granderson in RF and not LF, doesn’t Chris Young have the better arm? Don’t you always play the better arm in RF? What’s the latest with this?

  • Alex68

    can you please tell me how i insult people!? by speaking the truth about the mets and sandy alderson!? then trying to defend myself from their attacks because they don’t like what i say about them!? Are you kidding me!? i rather be BAN from this blog than succumb to these new you know whats who btw, sooner or later will turn on you the same way they’ve turned on Cerrone trust me…. without maniac, metsies and others in here who knew baseball this has become a sandy paradise island full of slurpeeeeeeers! #FOH

  • BrooklynsOwn

    lol Murphy, please send him to the AL so he can be a DH.

  • Benny

    TERRYBLOGIC!!!

  • Murphy in midseason form. What a first game so far. Geez.

  • Metsaholic

    Booted easy grounder by Murphy. Obviously he needs a lot of spring training warm up defensively.

  • IndianaMet

    I think that’s his fastball. If he can’t fool em with the junk he’s gonna have a short and brutal game. And season.

  • Benny

    No, but seriously it’s because his plan is to play EYJ in LF, C. Young in CF, and Granderson in RF.

  • Metsaholic

    It’s S.T. first game. He’ll warm up to…serviceable.

  • oleosmirf

    Chris Young is playing CF…

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Ugh.

  • Not4

    CY is in CF, EY is in LF. CG’s arm is far superior to EY’s arm, as is his OF defense.

    Would assume that if Lagares is playing instead of EY, then you’d see CG is LF and CY in RF.

  • Sylow59

    http://www.matthewcerrone.com/

    I’m Matthew Cerrone, I’ve generated
    250,000,000 page views with 30,000 posts in 10 years.

    If you’ve ever asked yourself:

    How do I create a successful sports blog?

    How can I drive traffic and get people to read my work?

    How do I connect with sports fans?

    How do I break in to sports media?

    …you’re in the right place!

  • IndianaMet

    Cards enjoying extended BP today. Dice K will be the 5th starter even if he doesn’t get an out all spring. Brutal.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Yeah, I was projecting Lagares in CF on opening day. Silly me. TC knows best.

  • mr mojo risin

    is there a stat for hitting the umpire ?

  • Sylow59

    Remember Sid Fernandez as an option for the All-Time Met Team as a RHP?

  • Alex68

    Salty, let em… it shows by us speaking the truth hurts their feelings… what’s funny to me is, we get insulted attack, mock etc and somehow that flies under the radar in this blog like nothing, yet, when we defend ourselves, then we get called out and threaten to be ban from here.. lol.. laughable stuff….
    quality of the comments my ass…. if they really love the “quality of the comments, why let go of good people like maniac, metsie, bay and others to replace them with them you know what!?

  • Mets

    How come Dice-Ks veteran status automatically makes him good in TC’s eyes?

  • Not4

    Especially because most of his funniest comments are those in which he is neither trying to be funny nor realizes it.

  • Sylow59

    That seems to be true. But he’s also a better writer and a whole lot less aarrogant.

  • oleosmirf

    Depends on who Washington’s opening day starter is.

    If it’s a RHP, then Lagares will likely be on the bench and if it’s a LHP, then Lagares is probably in CF and EY or CY on the bench.

  • dealingwithidiots

    Who are you kidding, other than yourself? You don’t want people here to talk baseball with. There are hundreds of people to talk baseball with. YOU are the one that is incapable of that.

    You want people that have the exact same opinion as you so you have someone else to repeat the same thing several times a day and you can pat each other on the back.

    People, other than you, come here to talk baseball, exchange ideas and thoughts, and they do NOT have to agree with each other, but read, think about what was said, and maybe even learn something from each other.

    Again, that has never been YOUR agenda, proven any time someone says something that you don’t agree with your circumvent a words you’ve been asked not to you, (good job RESPECTING the owner of the site by the way) call people Sandy Lovers and then try saying your opinion is the TRUTH, of which you still do not know there is a difference.

  • Taskmaster4450

    “i speak for many mets fans who feel as i do about this FO and the way the org is been run down to the ground under our own eyes…”

    Alex, this is where you are inherently dishonest.

    The Mets were not run into the ground since Oct 2010…they were buried long before it.

    This organization, especially under the Wilpon watch, has a long history or ineptitude.

  • Wolfmicky21

    Anyone pull in intercostal oblique yet?

  • mr mojo risin

    I imagined Peralta yelling “Viva Tejada” as he swung there. He just didn’t get enough … of something

  • IndianaMet

    Sigh

  • Sylow59

    A bigger meltdown than anything from the Lindsey Lohan camp.

  • Erin_II

    1. JL catches the ball easily in CF, saving that run
    2. That umpire plays better up the middle defense than anyone the Mets have in those positions.

  • Benny

    Because TC is traumatized from his past management experience with the Angels.

  • Erin_II

    Because rookies have never revolted against him and got him fired.

  • CJM

    Sun looks really tough out there, judging by how Jay just played that fly out.

  • agetting

    LOL

  • Taskmaster4450

    Because Collins is a total moron.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Ask Connor.

  • agetting

    I’m a little surprised Dice K isn’t getting the opening day nod

  • I didn’t get rid of maniac or Metsie, both of whom I emailed just last week.

    And Bay? Really? The guy who’s threatened children and women? That Bay? The one who made fun of reader’s wives, children and families? That Bay?

    10 years, 7 bans. All for racism and sexism. All after three warnings. Gimme a break.

  • Erin_II

    How could I forget? That was MC though.

  • Canoli220

    I’m not watching the game, just following it online. How bad does Dice K look? It seems like they are teeing off on him

  • Taskmaster4450

    BAM!!!!!

    Darling just nailed it. The Mets were going to give Peralta a bunch of money to make him their SS even though he is a defensive liability but offensive threat. Flores can be at least Peralta defensively.

  • agetting

    The Mets were never going to give Peralta a bunch of money…which is exactly what happened…

  • Taskmaster4450

    Not great although his defense hasnt helped him.

    Grandy and CY both had flies balls that, I wont say were misjudged, but were catchable. And Murphy butchered a couple of plays…one very easy.

  • mr mojo risin

    I think an additional RBI as a credit might be suitable

  • Agee’s Catch

    it’s all in jest. But I am amazed at what will make a particular post snowball….

  • oleosmirf

    The thing is Peralta’s defense is actually rated above average so it’s not like he’s some bad fielder.

  • Benny

    Mets offered a multi-year deal, the money aspect was not made public, but I would have to believe it was much higher than what Flores makes, which is the point Darling was making.

  • IndianaMet

    Lots of hard hit balls. Some caught. Some not. One weak pop up and a hard hit grounder that was booted. Has a decent breaking pitch that guys are taking for a K. Fastball isn’t too fast, in the 80s. And he still pitches at a snails pace. Cardinals looked very comfortable taking their hacks.

  • oleosmirf

    The good thing is Terry doesn’t decide who makes the team and Sandy certainly isn’t the kind of guy to give in like Omar did with Mejia.

  • mr mojo risin

    Flores comes across as confident in that interview, so that’s a good sign.

  • Not4

    Joe, no need to get worked up.

    Alex is basically a real life Norma Desmond, only without any legitimate success that Norma had in the silent screen. I recall being forced to watch that movie 35 years ago in school, so don’t recall much. But I do recall that Norma was absolutely pathetic in her delusional belief that she was a goddess, when she was nothing more than a demented recluse.

    I don’t recall anyone being able to reason with Norma in that movie and doubt there is much that could be done here either.

  • ..

  • Yes he did.

  • CJM

    He seems like a very easy player to root for. Of course, we all love the last Venezuelan infielder who played for the Mets.

  • Benny

    The guy has a horrific -33.1 RngR and a -2.8 UZR for his career at the position. Where are you getting the rating of above average for him from?

  • Taskmaster4450

    2 year deal offered in excess of $10M per year.

    That is a bunch of money.

  • CJM

    D’Arnaud needs to block that pitch.

  • oleosmirf
  • Can I get that with some rice on the side?

  • Agee’s Catch

    With only a box score as a reference, I assume 5A and 5B are not faring so well.

  • IndianaMet

    Not compared to what was offered by the Cards. I heard him say he wanted to be a Cardinal after the season ended. Who wouldn’t?

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    RE: What Gary Cohen said moments ago about the Cardinals’ hitters’ philosophy of being more in “attack mode”, while the Mets’ hitters are more inclined to work the count and look for walks.

    I don’t know that it’s philosophy as much as the fact that well, the Cardinals’ hitters are just more talented than the Mets’ hitters. Without looking up the numbers I bet the Cardinals’ hitters last year:

    -Had a higher team BA than the Mets on first pitches of counts
    -Had a higher team BA than the Mets on 3-2 counts
    -Had a higher team BA overall
    -Had a higher team OBP

    Not philosophy, they’re just better players, hitters.

  • CJM

    Great point.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yes the Cards outbid the Mets (and the Yankees).

    But it doesnt mean the Mets didnt offer him a lot of money.

  • mr mojo risin

    Tovar, right … 😉

  • Taskmaster4450

    As I have said all winter long, the Red Sox last year used the same philosophy as the Mets. In fact, Eck repeatedly talked about how the Sox hitters would “grind” out ABs “wearing down” the pitchers.

    Like you said, I would surmise the Sox simply had better hitters than the Mets. That is why it worked there.

  • Benny

    No, Melvin Mora. 🙂

  • IndianaMet

    Gotta appreciate the cards. They build from within, cut dead weight with no afterthought and pay for whatever holes need to be filled.

  • oleosmirf

    Also, a player with a -2.8 UZR would not be terrible especially since that number would be a total over his 10 year career. Then when you factor in the defensive factors other than range, it winds up being above average overall.

  • mr mojo risin

    that Tavares has a swing that’s going to do a lot of damage by himself, we don’t have anyone like that

  • CJM

    If Mora had hit the juice when he was with the Mets maybe 2000 would’ve ended differently.

  • oleosmirf

    The Cardinals also have superior players at every position other than 3B. That tends to do it.

  • Benny

    It is when you take into account how bad he is in terms of range, which means he isn’t getting to as many balls as he should be if he was really an above average player.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yes they do. Bow down at their feet in terms of their organizational greatness. They have been doing it for a long time.

    How many organizations could lose the best player in the game (Pujols) and make the playoffs and the WS the two ensuing seasons?

    Then they let Beltran leave without lifting a finger because they have one of the top rated prospects in baseball ready to step in.

    The plan is there for all to copy.

  • AJF

    I really was hoping to see one of the young guns we have win the 5th spot and Lagrades starting in cf But this clown of a manager already crushed that Idea the 2nd day of camp

  • One of the best run organizations in baseball over the last 50 years.

  • Erin_II

    Yikes. I hate to even think about having Montero, Mejia, and Syndergaard in a Terry Collins bullpen for him to misuse.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    If he had said, “The Cardinals philosophy of having good players,” that would have been accurate.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I’m hoping Montero is lights out.

  • Taskmaster4450

    You are in the minority that Peralta is anywhere near close to average at SS…not only on here but among baseball people.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    hahahahaha.

  • Fast Eddie

    (((((((!!!!!!Stephen Drew!!!!!!!!!)))))))))

    Type it LOUD and he will come…maybe not.

    I just can’t take another season of weakly hit ground balls by Tejada…

  • Lots of raves for Montero by GKR. Also citing Viola’s love of the kid.

  • Benny

    Minority? Try alone.

  • mr mojo risin

    yeah and in a way he shrugged it off a bit, but not really as if he didn’t want to talk about it… just seems like he’s only focused on making the team

  • Metsaholic

    Peralta is not playing SS for his defense! :-))))

  • AJF

    Too bad Collins is the manager

  • Kian Momeni

    Why is EY’s stance so low this year

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Is that like building a top ten farm and cutting dead weight like Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo?

  • IndianaMet

    Wow Tejada is slow. I had forgotten how much so.

  • Taskmaster4450

    With prospects like Kirk, MDD, Duda, etc, it really wouldnt matter if they swung at the first pitch or the 5th.

  • oleosmirf

    Another example of why speed matters. Anyone else on the team and that’s a double play…

  • Ain’t that the truth.

  • He watched a lot of Cricket this winter.

  • Benny

    Tejada had a FC in the previous play as well, calm down…

  • mr mojo risin

    wha …. it was a serious observation bro

  • Taskmaster4450

    Of course, EY wouldnt have been up if Peralta hadnt spiked the throw before which was an easy DP.

  • Kian Momeni

    No idea how someone can get a hit standing like that

  • Agee’s Catch

    draw more walks by eliminating his strike zone?

  • Fast Eddie

    Their manager even looks better than our manager. And can definitely take ours in an arm wrestle too…

  • Benny

    HA! Little League-esque…

  • Canoli220

    Hopefully Mejia will be lights out for the rest of the spring and force Terry to make him the 5th starter. Has Lannan ever pitched out of the bullpen? I can see him as the 2nd lefty and another long man.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Not to defend the moron, but I believe the call on the 5th starter is all Alderson.

  • IndianaMet

    I’m not sure there are too many comparisons between the two organizations.

  • oleosmirf

    very true, but that’s irrelevant to the fact that on this particular play, his speed was the difference between the inning being over or not.

    Of course he would get caught stealing though!

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    You made two in your initial comment, but okay.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Very Bill Veeck.

  • Agee’s Catch

    task beat me to it.

  • Can’tAnybodyHereWatchThisGame

    Zero chance Syndergaard is in the pen.

  • Taskmaster4450

    And speed just ended the inning.

  • Alex68

    thanks for reading and commenting…

  • Fast Eddie

    Word…

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    I suggested Lannan as the 2nd lefty on yesterday’s post — not sure why this isn’t getting consideration…because he’s never relieved before? If Lannan in the pen doesn’t work out, I don’t think it’s the end of the world, and he gets replaced…It’s not like the Mets have lots of money/commitment to the guy.

  • Taskmaster4450

    No to Lannon ever pitching out of the BP.

    5th starter is 100% Alderson’s decision I am sure.

  • oleosmirf

    correct, but with his SB% being so high, I’ll take that over Tejada any day of the week.

    I also would suspect he wouldn’t be running there if it were a real game.

  • Metsaholic

    I really don’t want to hear whining for reviews on any close (or not even close) plays. I’m not on broad with the replay challenge.

  • R04

    -1

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    My eyes just rolled out of my head.

  • Canoli220

    I’m sure it is but Mejia needs to give them a reason to give him the 5th spot. The other 2 guys have opt outs if they don’t make the 25 man for opening day. If Mejia pitches mediocre, they’ll give it to one of the other 2

  • Kian Momeni

    getting pretty ridiculous with this defense…

  • Taskmaster4450

    How are Tejada and EY even related?

    Neither is costing the other playing time.

  • corny12491

    Collins looks pissed at that defense haha

  • Agee’s Catch

    I like it. It can save an umpire from an unfortunate mistake.

  • CJM

    I didn’t realize Murphy and Tejada partnered up for a butcher shop venture this off season.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    OMG Tejada, Terry already botching a challenge. Here we go..

  • mr mojo risin

    can’t wait to see how well TC misuses this challenge system

  • metsfan130

    FLORES FOR SS.

  • Canoli220

    I agree. I really don’t want to see Edgin on the team and Leather looks like he needs more time in AAA

  • CJM

    And Satin is working the register!

  • oleosmirf

    Tejada is your most likely leadoff hitter if EY Jr is not playing since Lagares surely wont be considered.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I agree.

    Personally, I dont care who wins as long as it is the best pitcher. I like Mejia and if he outpitches Lannon and Dice K, then give him the job. If one of the others is better, give it to him.

    I just despise the crap of the vets getting the go ahead and the young guys cast aside.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Sorry I can only give you 1 upvote here.

    If I could, I would press it 100 times.

  • Metsaholic

    The human factor has been part of the game for over 100 years. It makes it more interesting. Are we going to have home plate umps getting challenged for balls and strikes? It’s just going to slow the game down and I think it’s going to cause more problems then it solves.

  • Not4

    Are you sure the opt outs are tied to opening day? Thought one was the end of May and the other in June?

    Big difference there if so

  • AJF

    Does not matter what Dice K ,Lannan or Mejia does Dumdum Terry already has his mind made up

  • Taskmaster4450

    Not much to look at and be happy about.

  • Canoli220

    I agree. If Mejia out pitches the other 2 and gets sent to AAA, I’ll be really mad. Other than that, let the best man win. We’ll see Mejia barring any injury at some point this year

  • BrooklynsOwn

    This infield is so bad and it’ll be worse if they have Duda at 1st.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Holiday 2 RBIs.

    Oh I forgot they dont matter.

  • Canoli220

    I thought opening day roster but I could be wrong.

  • oleosmirf

    so who is your leadoff hitter if EY is on the bench? Tejada is probably their guy b/c of the OBP

  • Just remember it’s not Tejada’s fault that he is out there. You would be out there too if given the opportunity.

  • KMO82

    Well after today its hard to say Mejia isn’t in the lead for the fifth spot and that Flores doesn’t deserve a loooooong look at SS.

  • Metsaholic

    Yes, it would defensively. But offensively Davis will still be up there stretching his eye lids after every whiff!

  • Agee’s Catch

    You have to factor in defensive suckitude. This should reduce them from 2 to about 1.27 RBI

  • Hell Meijia can get in at SS

  • dealingwithidiots

    Thanks for being so predictable

  • R04

    English, do you speak it?

  • Guest

    Wut?

  • Taskmaster4450

    Davis was pretty awful defensively last season.

  • CJM

    I’ve been stretching for 10 minutes every morning. Waiting for the call from Sandy. When I was 10 I started at shortstop over Giants first round pick Joe Panik. Think I still got it.

  • oleosmirf

    Have to agree 100% with Terry there, you challenge anything you think they messed up on.

  • Canoli220

    Adam Rubin posted on March 2nd that Lannan has a June 1st opt out. Dice K has certain rights because he has 6 plus years of MLB service. He has to be notified 5 days before opening day on whether or not he made the team, if he did not, he can choose free agency or the Mets pay him a $100,000 retention bonus and then he gets a June 1st opt out.

  • Metsaholic

    …and that too!

  • corny12491

    You should go to that fitness and conditioning camp in Michigan beforehand though

  • Ha!

  • mr mojo risin

    I like RBI’s in the context of one game or a series maybe, because you can see who contributed directly to the effort. I think once they’re extended to a season’s worth of games it becomes misleading as to their actual value.

  • Not4

    Just checked and according to prior posts on MMO, citing the NY Daily News, “Matsuzaka can opt out of his contract with the Mets if he is not promoted to the team by May 30.” and “Lanaan can can become a free agent if the Mets do not place him on the 25 man roster by June 15.”

  • Metsaholic

    Yes, but the second guessing is going to be brutal! I really don’t like the rule.

  • Metsaholic

    Murph hurt!!??

  • CJM

    Murph hurt? I dk about going in hard like that in a ST game.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Down goes Murph….

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Murphy hurt? Maybe all those reps at 2B for Flores weren’t such a bad thing.

  • Metsaholic

    He’s back in the dugout. Looks okay.

  • Emmanuel

    What happened to him???

  • schadenfreudianslip

    Has he looked good in the field? Range? Throws? What’s he done? Not watching or listening.

  • He ended up saying WTF because people called him out for what he is and he sees everything through his own narcissistic filter. In his eyes, all of his faults (eg poor writing skills, inability to think critically, inability to add much value to any conversation among educated fans, high opinion of himself) are beyond reproach but the opinions of his commenters are just an annoying distraction. He sees the purpose of his blog as a way to grace us all with his and his minions insight and opinions but there is no room for debate or criticism from us lesser beings.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Depth is never a bad thing.

  • Metsaholic

    Looks like he jammed is lead foot sliding to breakup the DP at 2b. But he’s back in the dugout and looks okay.

  • oleosmirf

    To me the answer is simple. The umps in the video room simply make the call without any input from the umps on the field. Should take no longer than 45 seconds.

  • schadenfreudianslip

    ah, I see he’s not playing. Guess you meant Tejada is not exactly lighting up the world out there.

  • Metsaholic

    I agree. If you’re going to have it, I think that’s the way to administer it.

  • Emmanuel

    Hopefully is nothing serious

  • oleosmirf

    Murphy’s fine, just an awkward slide

  • True. (Schneck via Facebook)

  • CJM

    The fitness camp in Michigan should be coming to ME. I’m up to 10 pullups a day.

  • CJM

    Fine is a bit of an overstatement. Ruggedly handsome.

  • Terry

    I could hear Keith, Ronny and Gary biting their lips twice already today. When Gary brought up the difference in hitting philosophies between the Mets and the Cardinals. Yeah, one works and one doesn’t. And then when Tejada jogged down the line on what should have been a double play and then when he booted the ground ball.

  • CJM

    Hahaha. Keith has a 2:30 pm alarm on his phone. That’s just great.

  • Erin_II

    and 4:20 pm too.

  • IndianaMet

    I forgot to mention they win a lot. They paid for Holliday the same year we paid for Bay. They dumped Pujols when we keep running Ike out there. They sign Beltran we sign Hairston. They sign Peralta we sign CY. All their young stud pitchers contributed to a NL pennant last year. We bring ours up in July. We wait way too long to cut our dead weight for fear that they will be good elsewhere. Prospects sit the bench while theirs contribute on a semi regular basis. On and on and on. I I’ve in “Cardinal country” and have to hear this crap every day. The bad part is it’s true.

  • the_nardling

    Okay, now it’s showtime. I wish this game had been played backwards so I could watch Montero and Matz and then turn it off.

  • CJM

    Mets broadcast is very 420 friendly, I assume. GKR love to toke up after games and reminisce about the old days.

  • trevordunn

    Tejada looks great lol…If Sandy doesn’t get a SS within the next 3 weeks, people should boycott. It is INCONCEIVABLE that they will show up to opening day with the garbage they have right now at SS. It is such a middle finger to the entire fanbase

  • Erin_II

    There is no doubt in my mind that Keith is a burner.

  • Waz0787

    With his latest outing. Dice K clearly won the 5th spot. He only allowed the defending NO champ to one run.

  • Kian Momeni

    beautiful

  • CJM

    I remember one broadcast a few years ago, Keith spoke fondly of Randy Myers, whose locker, he said, had a very distinct odor.

  • Erin_II

    If you are watching the broadcast, they were talking about how the Cards ease their young pitchers in there, and how the Mets are considering doing the same. Even with Thor.

  • KMO82

    Exactly, Tejada had a ball kick off his glove for a hit and then booted a routine grounder.

  • trevordunn

    so Dice K got bombed. Lets her the idiot TC announce how great he looked and how he’s the front runner for the 5th spot after the game lol

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, I know all that. Doesn’t make the two comparisons you already made invalid.

    And the Cardinals also put their pitching prospects in the bullpen first.

  • Benny

    Same can be said for Lannan.

  • HarveyKsYou

    People already have boycotted.. I guarantee that on opening day the stadium be half full (people actually there).

  • trevordunn

    maybe not opening day, but by game 2 for sure

  • Wow, he’s pretty big in Ireland. Who knew?

  • Wolfmicky21

    I want see him throw out a red flag

  • Taskmaster4450

    Montero will throw a breaking ball no matter what the count.

    You have to love that.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Sadly, Mejia too after his start on Wed.

  • Emmanuel

    1-2-3

  • AJF

    And watch Mejia be lights out and Terry saying how he needs work in Triple A

  • KMO82

    That’s why it is important to be able to throw all your pitches for strikes, makes you unpredictable. Kid has confidence in all his pitches.

  • corny12491

    just wait until they see the way you jog in place. You’ll be in and out.

  • WillisReid

    Haha. Nice.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I <3 Montero

  • CJM

    Montero > Niese, Gee, Colon, Dice K, Lannan, etc., etc., etc.

  • HarveyKsYou

    And I don’t want that.. We want to have people at the stadium because it means the team is good and worth watching.. It’s sickening watching games and the stadium has 7 thousand people there.

  • Agee’s Catch

    He just may be…..

    The thought of Harvey, Wheeler, Thor, Montero and Colon in 2015 is crazy

  • CJM

    Sandy really should think about it. I’ll play for less than the minimum and I’m not afraid to take a pitch–quite the opposite actually; I’d be afraid to swing the bat (similar to 60% of Mets hitters).

  • CJM

    Thought we were gonna get an oppo taco right in time for a late lunch.

  • MetsfanInParadise

    d’Arnaud is looking very good, hitting the ball hard to RF. I was thinking it before Gary Cohen said it.

  • HarveyKsYou

    d’Arnaud double!

  • Agee’s Catch

    Pitch around Kirk to get to Tejada?

  • mr mojo risin

    Captain Kontact

  • IndianaMet

    Agreed

  • CJM

    Kirk’s at-bat right there exhibits why the RBI stat is overrated. Poor at-bat, gets an RBI.

  • oleosmirf

    That is the perfect example of a productive out that is better than a walk. Getting a run in and a runner over with the worst hitter in the lineup coming up.

  • Benny

    You have to make contact in order for that RBI to come through. The fact that he made a “productive out” should be rewarded.

  • Agee’s Catch

    half full….

  • Agee’s Catch

    half empty…

  • KMO82

    Tejada is useless.

  • oleosmirf

    disagree 100%. Context is everything.

    In front of Wright, that’s a bad play. In front of Tejada, a good play.

  • Benny

    PUT IN FLORES!!!

  • Agee’s Catch

    a participation ribbon?

  • Grrrrr I want to see Flores!!! Horibble game for Tejada

  • CJM

    Down 4, traded an out for a run. Not really great.

  • Agee’s Catch

    not a productive out.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Tejada looking real productive… Lol

  • Benny

    In the form of an RBI…

  • Taskmaster4450

    Flores gets that run in.

  • Not fair to compare her to him as she has a ridiculous sense of entitlement, has minions to help feed her ego, is willing to completely sell herself out and do or say anything if handed enough money/publicity and… wait a minute.

  • CJM

    Getting a run is nice, but gotta way cost/benefit there.

  • oleosmirf

    it is when the players behind you are unlikely to drive those runs in.

  • KMO82

    Tejada showing why he, Ike and Duda are better just saying they are injured. If they play they prove they shouldn’t be on any starting roster lol.

  • CJM

    Ha, I see what you did here. Well done.

  • Agee’s Catch

    can’t spell “ribbon” without….

  • HarveyKsYou

    Mets terrible offense continues.

  • Taskmaster4450

    It is what separates major league success from the minor league throwers.

  • im with you on that thought pretty sure he does.

  • CJM

    Over a large enough sample, independent of the hitter coming up (minus pitchers), bases loaded and no outs will yield more runs than man on third, one out.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Actually, even though a small sample, Duda at least looked good at the plate and did appeared to be continually overmatched.

    Cant say the same for Ike and Tejada.

  • Erin_II

    Vintage Tejada. I want to see Tovar.
    Tejada`s demeanor seems to proclaim, “You can`t afford Drew, and Flores can`t play SS.”

  • Agee’s Catch

    It was amusing to see two very distinct takes on the situation

  • KMO82

    I agree, but he has barely played but i see your point and agree.

  • Agee’s Catch

    All he has to do is lift it in the air to RF

  • CJM

    I agree.

  • Can’tAnybodyHereWatchThisGame

    The same Flores that is 0 for 11 this spring?

  • oleosmirf

    correct, but here we know who the hitters coming up are and that is a crucial element.

    Its a fact-specific inquiry.

  • Agee’s Catch

    sigh

  • CJM

    OMG guys get your sh*t together on D.

  • Taskmaster4450

    As it stands now, if Mejia doesnt with the 5th spot, I give the job to Lannon or Dice K for a month with Montero down in AAA and then, once the FA date passes (April 22nd or whenever), bring up Montero as the 5th starter.

  • oleosmirf

    You really don’t wanna see Tovar. He’s like Pete Kozma, but not as great defensively

  • CJM

    Still, looking at the box score for that at-bat, you see an RBI. But watching it occur, you see a feeble attempt.

  • KMO82

    Tejada is terrible.

  • Agee’s Catch

    just turrible…..

  • Can’tAnybodyHereWatchThisGame

    Which I would bet has been the plan all along.

  • Agee’s Catch

    sarcasm….

  • CJM

    I think it’s safe to say Tejada is not earning his spot right now.

  • KMO82

    lol…at least get in front of the ball.

  • fedupfan13

    Tejada is making the FO look like fools and all of us look like genuises

  • oleosmirf

    Agreed, although I still go with Mejia and if he gets hurt, then we have Montero.

  • corny12491

    I swear there is no way Tejada can start for this team. I don’t know what happened but now it looks more mental than physical. We saw him play a lot better for two years. But I think he’s gotta go

  • Metsaholic

    Wow! Tejada has not missed a beat. He still looks awful. Drew, Drew, DREW!

  • oleosmirf

    and given the off days and potential weather issues it might only be 2 starts.

  • corny12491

    T R B L turrible

  • Emmanuel

    Tejada SUCKS!

  • Agee’s Catch

    But our front office spent all season building him up!

  • KMO82

    Somewhere Drew and Boras watch laughing.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Come on *Tejada, get in front of the damn ball! Don’t give me this olé bullsh*t!

  • Charley’s Twin

    yeesh, I wasn’t harsh enough on him earlier.

  • CJM

    I don’t think the unemployed Drew is laughing right now, FWIW.

  • HarveyKsYou

    What happened with Tejada?

  • KMO82

    He took one in the eye last year.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Yes that is my point.

    In all actuality, could even go with a 4 man rotation in April with Torres filling in for a couple starts when needed.

    I dont think they hold Montero down until Super 2.

  • fedupfan13

    The mets better pull Tejada before boras asks the Mets for AROD money

  • Metsaholic

    You know I like the idea of having Flores bat in the line up. But I’m not seeing it as SS. We really need defense first at that spot.

  • CJM

    He was born, started playing baseball as a kid, was signed by the Mets, and they decided to let him play shortstop today. Really all you need to know.

  • Agee’s Catch

    Will Montero get a third inning?

  • KMO82

    He at least chuckled? lol

  • Taskmaster4450

    Or drooling.

  • cant possibly be any worse than tejada q and seretelli lol

  • Metsaholic

    The doubles machine! Murphy!

  • corny12491

    And he went to fitness camp!

  • Benny

    Did you see that Drew?

  • KMO82

    See, Murph has had a poor fielding day but has a bat at least. Tejada has sucked and then what? He sucks at the plate too. Flores can suck in the field like Tejada too but at least he then has the bat potential.

  • Agee’s Catch

    “round” is a shape!

  • HarveyKsYou

    Can’t have bad defense at SS.

  • Chuck

    What do you think? Would he have stopped that last ball better than Tejada? At least Flores will hit the ball, drive some runs in, and score some runs. All Tejada is showing us so far is that he can give them up.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I thought you usually put a faster runner in as a pinch runner…..

  • Erin_II

    Tejada makes Tovar look like Omar Vizquel.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    2 yrs, $22mil, throw in some incentives for him, 3rd year club option.

  • Can Emaus play SS?

  • Benny

    Did TC really just pinch run Murphy for Flores???

  • Chuck

    He’s prob. going to put Flores at 2B now. He ought to put him at SS, and put Tovar in (at 2B) for Tejada.

  • This move is every reason why TC should be fired.

  • Can’tAnybodyHereWatchThisGame

    Why is this a problem? Trying to avoid unnecessary exertion for a player we don’t want injured. Think of it as a replacement 1/4 inning early.

  • Chuck

    It’s Murph’s first game … TC doesn’t want to wear him out.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    In spring training? Wow. You really are salty.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yet people cry for Flores.

  • No you throw Q out there and give the AB to Flores.

  • HarveyKsYou

    They’re still better than Flores though. (Fielding wise)

  • Benny

    Jeter has a -9.2 dWAR for his career, a -94.9 RngR to go along with a -67.8 UZR. Think about that for a second…

  • R04

    -1

  • CJM

    There are people out there who believe at one point in his career, Jeter was actually a competent fielder. A nifty jump throw, a ball flip in the playoffs, and an unnecessary dive into the stands can carry a reputation a long way.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Tejada is a complete disgrace. Not buying tickets to watch that fool kick the ball all over the infield.

  • Chuck

    Maybe we’re just asking to see if he’s adequate at SS. Because if he is, then we have our Jhonny. Because if he is, who needs Drew? Because if he is, who needs Tejada? Although I would still like to see if we can get Franklin without giving up Montero. Flores and Franklin … two nice middle-infield bats. I like Murph, but we could get some value in return for him.

  • Agee’s Catch

    That’s just wrong….

  • beers22

    seriously ump?

  • beers22

    there we go, right down the middle

  • Hodges14

    that’s not so hard is it?

  • CJM

    A lefty who throws 95. My goodness.

  • Wanna know why Wright is getting paid what he is? That little speech right there.

  • beers22

    nasty change

  • Hodges14

    Sort of like catching a pop up over the first base dugout railing has done for Ike’s reputation.

  • CJM

    95 at the top, 80 at the bottom. Lot of potential there.

  • KMO82

    Solid curve.

  • CJM

    Yup was just about to add that.

  • CJM

    I believe it was TWO popups.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I would love to start being wrong about this organization. It would make me really happy if I had to reconsider my assumptions.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Are you buying tickets to watch any of the others?

  • agetting

    what pitcher?

  • Charley’s Twin

    Maybe when Noah gets to Queens. I used to go 15 times a year.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Oh, I’m aware of Jeter’s defense.

  • Metsaholic

    Matz.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Amazing that he didn’t learn how at fat camp run by Jeffy Wilpon’s crony..

  • Hodges14

    ahh… ok then … that makes all the difference hahaha.

  • KMO82

    If he has a big year and refines his stuff he could make Niese expendable this offseason possibly.

  • Kian Momeni

    impressive

  • Mets

    I <3 Matz

  • CJM

    Watching Matz, it’s easy to see why the Mets added him to the 40-man. He could be in a bullpen right now. He would not have made it through the rule-5 draft.

  • corny12491

    Blew him away.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Matz!

  • Metsaholic

    3ks in a row! Nice fastball. Was that 95 or 96?

  • Hodges14

    The Mets aren’t going to cave… 2014 is a throwaway season as far as they are concerned. Hell, it’s part of a throwaway decade.

  • KMO82

    No way.

  • mr mojo risin

    No needs for defense when you strikeout the side, right

  • CJM

    Easily.

  • Waz0787

    Trade him or montero for young SS. Tejada sucks

  • agetting

    did Montero pitch today? What did he do?

  • CJM

    If you do it once, it’s luck. Twice is a trend.

  • Mets

    the jet stream!

  • Need to get one of those installed at Citi

  • CJM

    But only when the Mets are hitting, like they used to do in the Metrodome.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I love how Matz got out of the jam. He was throwing 95 with a nice changeup.

  • The-rock-man

    At this point, looks like the kids are gonna start and the vetern pitchers are ALL headed to Los Wages to pitch. Nice to have Wheeler, Thor, Montero, Matz, and Degrom on a five man rotation. Did Lannan and Dice-K really look that bad?

  • Taskmaster4450

    How about Matz being the 2nd lefty in the BP?

    He has the stuff to get major league hitters out and he lack of innings make him the ideal reliever.

  • Chuck

    What’s with these announcers? Sinder-guard? Is that how Snydergaard pronounces his name?

  • I’ve been to Games there. With the system to keep the roof up it would just pull the balls up.

  • CJM

    I like that idea. People will be against having him in the bullpen with his long term potential hopefully being a starter, but it has worked for many great pitchers before.

  • Chuck

    Looks like they DID turn the jet stream on for this half inning! LOL

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    Sign Drew instead.

  • Chuck

    Whoa … and thanks, that’ll teach me to jump to conclusions without checking! Ouch!

  • Andrew Herbst

    I’m wondering if Matz could be the 2nd lefty in pen.

  • Saratoga_Jon

    Dangle him to the Mariners and see if he can get you a Shortstop.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I’d rather see him start

  • Andrew Herbst

    That’s interesting. I like that idea.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Black has been erratic this spring.

  • Metsaholic

    I thought he was out because Flores blocked the base, other wise he is safe.

  • sperry

    Wow was that just an awful, awful call

    edit: well what do I know anyway

  • Kian Momeni

    actually the right call, flores kept the tag on him.

  • CJM

    “There you go. Way to stay with it Flo!” Great call by Murph right there.

  • Metsaholic

    It wasn’t awful. It was perfect.

  • mets4lyfe

    Matz looked good. Fastball consistently in the 92-94 mph zone touching 95 mph. He showed a good change-up that had a significant speed difference from his fastball (95 mph to 83 mph) and a good curveball.

  • Agee’s Catch

    He’s destined for St Lucie, if I’m not mistaken.

  • Saratoga_Jon

    complete agree regarding Montero. Matz might be the best offer they field. They protected him for a reason. it’s not out of the question to say he’s a healthy season away from the bigs.

  • Flo is Murph’s Boo!

  • oleosmirf

    The only way I could see the super-two coming into play is if the Mets rotation we start with is excellent, meaning we don’t need Montero early on.

    If a need arises and he’s close to the super two date, they might then wait and go with deGrom

  • CJM

    Very shaky start for Black but he pulled it together well.

  • mets4lyfe

    It’s kind of obvious, no? A 22 year-old left-handed starting pitcher that can dial his fastball to 98 mph and a change-up that flashes plus with good control. Ofcourse he wouldn’t have made it through the rule-5 draft.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Black looked a bit better than he has.

    Important to remember that there are still 3 weeks for these guys to get it together.

    Black hasnt looked impressive, hopefully he will start to turn it around.

  • CJM

    Yeah I think it is obvious. He looked great out there today. Very exciting.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I believe that’s right. He’ll start the year off there.

  • mets4lyfe

    I’ll hold back my opinion on Black until the regular season. No point in trying to draw conclusions on him based off a couple of early ST outings.

  • mets4lyfe

    I try to tone down my excitement when it comes to Matz. His injury history is kind of scary. I’m just hoping he can stay healthy.

  • beers22

    1st rd. pick to boot

  • CJM

    I’m not very good at avoiding optimism, particularly with pitchers who throw hard. Can you give me a run-down of his injury history? I know he had the TJ after high school. What else has he dealt with?

  • Mets

    Way to run it off

  • mets4lyfe

    Shoulder inflammation, which was diagnosed as tendinitis in 2012.

    Similar to what Cole Hamels is going through right now.

  • CJM

    Puello ate that heater to the ribs like it was a breakfast sandwich.

  • NewYorkMammoths

    I said to myself, “That’s just wrong,” and then I saw your comment.

  • Alex68

    Let’s go mets!!!!
    MMO 2014 motto: be positive or else so…
    600+ comments, lots of quality here…

  • CJM

    Shoulders are a bit more scary, IMO. Obviously hope it won’t be a recurring thing. But if it is, I think he could still have a bright future in a bullpen.

  • mets4lyfe

    I feel like pitchers just love to use the excuse of PED usage just to hit batters. Honestly, what sort of moral justification is there from attempting to legitimately injury another person? Moreover, no one really knows the extent of Puello’s PED usage, aside from the fact that he has been linked to it.

  • Agee’s Catch

    So you’re calling the HBP on Puello intentional?

  • Agee’s Catch

    With any luck, Familia will keep it close and give us a chance in the 9th

  • Sylow59

    LOL

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Thank you for adding a little more quality to it. Can always count on you.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Nice inning from Familia. I think he could be the 8th inning guy.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Come on now. Really no reason to think that was intentional. In spring training?

  • mets4lyfe

    I can’t say it with certainty, but I wouldn’t be surprised. That fastball was way inside.

  • Sylow59

    I get the feeling we will see him in July, 2015.

  • Sylow59

    I wouldn’t trade Matz. He has a chance to be very special.

  • Fast Eddie

    Spring training rally caps ^ON^…

  • HarveyKsYou

    More garbage at the plate.

  • mets4lyfe

    Nieuwenhuis is a AAAA player at this point. I don’t he’s even capable of being a 4th OF on a ML team.

  • Sylow59

    oh, I thought it was a nickname proposal for Matz.

  • knicksjp07

    Captain K is in mid season form with two more strikeouts lmao

  • Metsaholic

    We’re having a moment here! Flores!!!

  • Andrew Herbst

    Nice hitting by Flores going oppo.

  • RBI Machine!

  • Sylow59

    Nickname proposal for Matz: The Jet Stream.

  • Metsaholic

    OMG!! We’re tied!!

  • knicksjp07

    yeah!!!!!!

  • Macdaddy

    Well thanks for participating today Kirk and for showing up we have some parting gifts for you. Hal what do we have for Kirk today.

    Kirk you get the latest and greatest from RONCO which is the swing doctor 2K, Now you…yes you…can go to most little league fields and impress all the 10 year olds with your ability to stand and take 3 pitches and then walk right back to the dug out. Yes with the RONCO Swing Doctor 2K you are assured of not making an MLB roster.

  • Fast Eddie

    ALRIIIIGHT!!! Tie game!…

  • oleosmirf

    Campbell continuing his impressive spring.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Hmmm. Collins pinch ran for Murphy and some of you wondered why use Flores.

    But ssssh, Collins sucks.

  • Unfortunately I agree. Text book Quad-A player.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Flores has to get more time at ss.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Another tease. We’ll just give those runs right back.

  • CJM

    Wow I hadn’t even considered that. You might be right.

  • Wolfmicky21

    Hmmm that’s a new idea!

  • Bail4Nails

    I love when people argue against Flores’ consistent RBI’s. It’s not an accident.

  • Sylow59

    At 4:16 PM there are 90 comments on their game thread. The most recent new post was at 3:40 PM.
    “His ego is writing checks his brain can’t cash” – JRoc from Trailer Park Boys (greatest TV show ever).

  • Ace719

    I like this kids, I’m looking forward to seeing this team grow to a contender in the next 2 years

  • CJM

    Tie game. Mets get 1 point in the standings?

  • Agee’s Catch

    He pinch ran for him

  • Emmanuel

    Wilmer “RBI machine” Flores

  • Terry Collins calls the game. Punk!!!

  • Agee’s Catch

    home run derby to settle it?

  • CJM

    Only if Colon is taking the hacks for NY.

  • Ace719

    LOL Terry, A tie is better than a Loss

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Excuse me, I meant pinch ran.

  • CJM

    Sandy Alderson’s preseason prediction: 90-71-1.

  • Agee’s Catch

    At least go a couple of innings

  • Agee’s Catch

    It’s a horse of a different color.

  • schadenfreudianslip

    Alex, let me put that through the translator for you:
    There are now a lot more smart fans here so my nonsensical rantings are lost in a sea of better more meaningful discussion. PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!

    Got it.

  • CJM

    I’m sure it has entirely to do with the pitchers. If all the pitchers they wanted to get work got work, no use in throwing another guy out of turn or whatever.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Not really, but I know it’s hard to give any credit.

  • Agee’s Catch

    I’m not arguing about putting Flores in the game. It’s that when you pinch run for someone, you usually put someone in a bit faster….

  • Ace719

    How about JJ Hardy at SS next year and Flores on 2nd. Puello on RF, Granderson LF. 1B and CF still up for grabs.

  • Fast Eddie

    I agree. Terry is BIG on guys “feeling good about themselves” as if a tie is some kind of huge achievement…

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    I think today was an important game. We saw Montero, Dice K, and Lannan against the same club on the same day. And a strong hitting club at that! I think the choice for the 5th starting spot among these three is clear….Montero. Maybe Mejia take a run at it. But Montero looked much better than the veterans today.

  • Charley’s Twin

    And then the team piles into Terry’s station wagon to go get some pizza and ice cream to celebrate!

  • agetting

    I would actually say he’s a AAA guy

  • CJM

    My favorite idiom.

  • LoL, Great Tie!
    It was Flo-fun.

  • Fast Eddie

    Here’s a score I really like….

    Gamethread Comments…..Metsmerized 691…MetsBlog 90.

    This Blog is kicking ass! Lots of good folks here making quality comments.
    Job well done, by everyone! The old place can’t be happy about this…
    By the regular season we’ll at least double what we did today…

  • CJM

    600 for a ST game no less. I suspect we’ll break the millennium barrier many times this year.

  • metsman

    Didn’t he take out a pitcher last year in the 5th innings because he was doing well and he used the same rationale?

  • metsman

    How about a pop up derby, we have Chris Young, the secret weapon!

  • Andrew Herbst

    I like his stuff. I think he is better than Black.

  • metsman

    Tense is a funny thing in baseball; you don’t say a guy flew out to center field.

  • He’s done quite a few times, often backfiring and leading to bullpen implosions and no decision for pitcher he removed. I understand the rationale, but…

  • schadenfreudianslip

    How did Familia look out there? that guy will be closing by August if not sooner. Nothing against Bobby P but Familia has nasty stuff, and if he’s healthy and finally harnessing it, watch out.

  • Waz0787

    Old place sucks. I don’t even bother going. Comment system is annoying. Half the old crews at metsblog were blocked from commenting including myself.

  • Thanks for a great chat everyone! Lets Go Mets!

  • Macdaddy

    Hello Folks Alex Trebec here for todays MLB version of Jeopardy and todays category is: Things uttered or heard in the Mets Dugout. Our contestants are Jeff Wilpon, Fred Wilpon and Sandy Alderson.

    Ok in our first category…here is the answer:

    So…ahhh…hmmm…ahhh…this Flores kid…ahhh…can we put a giant piece of plexiglass behind him and teach him how to play short?

    Buzz…ok Sandy have at:

    What are things that Terry Collins might be saying to Bob Geren?

    Why yes you are correct….Ok next question.

    Man why did I sign this contract extension…

    Buzz…ok Fred:

    What is something Sandy would say?

    Wahwahawah…ah No Fred…remember the category is: Things uttered or heard in the Mets dugout”…not your front office.

    Buzz: Yes Jeff:

    What is something uttered in a Mets dugout?

    Ahhh..no I am sorry that is wrong Jeff…rememeber I just said that and further that is the category…you truly are your fathers son.

    Well that is all the time we have today…

  • trevordunn

    Sandy should sign Drew by tonight…Enough of this garbage

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    How was Montero today?

  • Couldnt watch the game was going by the gameday on the mets site how did flores look?

  • Sylow59

    but according to them they have record hits.

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    Great…He pitched two innings one hit/ one unearned run both due to fielding errors. He looked much better than Lannan and Dice K.

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    Not great, but better than Tejada, who had a ridiculous error today. Flores also hit better than him, which isnt saying much.

  • RS

    Mixed results for Dice
    3Ks
    6 hits! (though two were catchable balls in the outfield missed by CY and Grandy)
    2 ER
    not an especially impressive outing, but the 3ks give’s room to hope he gets it together

  • Fast Eddie

    PLEASE! I agree..

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    We should just start Campbell at 1B. He’s hitting .429 BA. He was clutch today with a game tying RBI with two out. Who needs Duda and Ike.

  • schadenfreudianslip

    If the Mets sign Drew, it isn’t happening until day two of the season. They aren’t going beyond 1 year, and Drew isn’t signing a 1 year deal before the season starts. He doesn’t want to be subject to a QO again at the end of the year.

    It might happen, but it isn’t happening now.

    (or I’m wrong)

  • Even the guys in the booth are in favor of Montero making the 5th spot! It’s rediculous that this is even going on this spring training..

  • WilponsNeed2Go

    You’re right. I don’t think Gary/Keith/Ron will openly criticize TC this early in the year, but they clearly think Montero is worthy of the job.

  • NYM86

    I’ll be changing my Disquis handle back to the WrightStuff5 soon, complete with the clown picture of Cerrone.

  • DVRd game watching it now.. Montero is just ready!! He so good

  • WilponsStinkLessNow

    Thanks to you both. I missed the game. Can’t wait until he gets called up after the Super Two date passes.

  • Sylow59

    a badge of honor

  • Metfan9876

    Baseball reference says he was a 2nd rounder

  • MyasDaddy

    Me too

  • ill_egl

    I dont think you can say that with one hundred percent confidence at this point- especially considering what we’ve seen from Q and Tejada thus far in the field.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Did you used to go by your first and last name over there? If so, you’re in my comment Hall of Fame, for demolishing him about this exact “dipping and swerving” comment.

    “A place where old and irrelevant stories are beaten to death.” Phenomenal, sir.

  • beers22

    didn’t realize that was the year they lost 1st rounder for signing K-Rod, knew he was their first selection that year.

  • RyanF55

    Haha yes. I just can’t take his arrogance anymore. The readers are more knowledgeable of the team and truthfully stronger writers than he is, so to see that New Year’s post where he adored himself in 500 words was torturous. With the resources and access he’s given, you’d think he’d actually produce great material. I’d pursue so many Q&As with players and track down stories from them in the clubhouse to share…..you know, undertake actual journalism. Instead it’s just regurgitated information and re-tweets with no objectivity! I’m tired of it! hahah.