Chances Of Mets Signing Drew “Very Slim”

Stephen Drew

A friend of Stephen Drew called the Mets’ chances of getting Drew “very slim” as it becomes more obvious agent Scott Boras is willing to wait until after the season begins to sign his client, according to Joel Sherman of the New York Post.

This is the first thing I’ve read that actually makes any sense regarding this situation.

While earlier reports had Scott Boras threatening to have Drew sit out until after the draft in June, all he has to do is wait until the season starts and then have Drew take a one-year deal instead.

Once Drew signs a deal after the new season begins, he can not be given a qualifying offer next offseason, which gives him a new shot at a multi-year deal without costing teams a pick in the draft. 

The draft pick compensation undoubtedly had an adverse affect on Drew and eliminating that should help him get the kind of deal he’s been looking for.

Over the weekend, Sandy Alderson indicated that he will not add significantly to their 2014 payroll, so I don’t know if this would change anything for the Mets.

But given his 90-win mantra, it would be difficult for this front office to stand pat in the eyes of the fans especially if it’s just a one-year deal. Do you agree?

Meanwhile, Ruben Tejada remains sidelined with tightness in his left hamstring, so he’s yet to get enough at-bats to show management signs that he can have a productive season.

Also, despite Terry Collins insisting that he would give Wilmer Flores.

a long look at shortstop, that hasn’t happened. With Tejada out and the Mets playing a pair of split-squad games on Tuesday, Flores was penciled in at second base. It’s so difficult to read this team right now…

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  • I think most of us know Drew’s not becoming a Met unless every other team drops out. What I’m annoyed about (an no it’s not that this story won’t die) is that Flores is still not playing SS. I know, no way they actually do this, or this will be a disaster…but you’d think with Tejada out and being this early in the Spring, the kid would be getting his chance now.

  • blastingzone

    True but its even harder to read Collins! I don’t know if Sandy is telling Collins not to play Flores at SS but either way its not looking good their right now! At least give Flores a chance to see what he can do while its still early in spring training or
    make a trade ASAP so your new SS can get used to his new team and the NL if
    he has too!!

  • Benny

    It just funny to me how these anonymous “friends” of these ball players always seem to come out at the right time to help out with the situation. These ball players must be really trusting individuals to keep telling their “friends” what’s really going on, yet these “friends” always find a way to come forward and spill the beans.

    You would think these players would learn by now…

  • trevordunn

    if Sandy Alderson shows up to opening day with Tejada/Omar as the everyday SS, he will announce himself as one of the worst GMs in the sport. This moron had 5 months to go get a SS and he does NOTHING. That’s all he is ever good for. NOTHING. It is inconceivable that they would show up to opening day with the same garbage at SS that they had last year, and yet here we are. DISGRACE. ABSOLUTE DISGRACE. I hope Mike Fatcessa rips Sandy a new one when he interviews him in spring training. Alderson is a joke and so are these cheap bastardss who are owners.

  • jason bay

    I think it’s a negotiating posture that Flores will get a shot but that they don’t want to play him there and expose the charade.

    I’d be perfectly willing to use Wilmer as the backup SS but I doubt he would play it full time.

  • calamityfrancis

    I would guess its unlikely any team would be willing to give him a qualifying offer next year. That will be like $15M and he’s not worth that even now.

  • trevordunn

    TC is the manager…when did logical and TC ever go in the same sentence? This clown wants Dice K as the 5th starter over Mejia, and he wants EY in the OF over Lagares. He’s clueless

  • Rocky Thompson

    I thought the Mets and Drew had already agreed on $$$ and the only thing being discussed was the number of years. Was it Alderson who said that??? No it was Francessa. Francessa is a pompous a$$.

  • Anthony Delgado *17 WS Champs*

    Calling it.. Tejadas going to be the NL MVP

  • Andrew Herbst

    I hope this means that we give Flores a shot at ss.

  • Met lifer

    This team and front office is so damn frustrating. They are such spin doctors it isn’t funny. No way should Tejada start at shortstop. He supposedly went to this camp and can’t even get on the field due to leg problems just from running a few drills and 1 intrasquad game? What did he do, hang out at the snack bar? And this when his job is on the line? I do not want to see him as our starting shortstop period! They are suppose to take a look at Flores at short and haven’t started him? Looking at a guy who is unknown and meaningless and Q at short ? Don’t have money for Drew ? Why don’t they just put a cup outside Citifield for collections so we can buy our own damn shortstop! And then to have the nerve to tell us to come out and watch this team! You don’ t want to spend money? Fine, just at least put Flores in to see if we have something with him playing the position. They got to be kidding us. Sell the team already if you can’t give your fan base a long over due chance or hope at a successful season!

  • I couldn’t disagree more.

    You have to throw away Alderson’s first two offseasons because he had no money to spend.

    And he did sign Colon, Young, and Granderson this offseason. I like two out of those three.

    He also put the Mets farm system back on the map with a series of solid trades. You can’t deny him big props for this.

    He needs to do more, but to say he’s done nothing isn’t very fair.

  • jason bay

    They could raise the rent on Amway.

  • TJ

    Drew/Boras have really baked themselves into a corner, but so has Alderson. It looks like his only out is dealing for a SS at premium pricing or playing Tejada no matter how he looks. Not impressive.

  • Fair point on why Flores is not being played at SS yet.

  • trevordunn

    24th ranked payroll….the Twins and Royals have higher payrolls…and SS should have been priority NUMBER ONE

  • trevordunn

    Alderson is going to look like a fool when Tejada is hitting .150 on April 28th and Omar is once again the starting SS….I would call the Blue Jays and offer up Montero/DeGrom for Reyes

  • Met lifer

    At least he has been saying all along get this team some players and get it started now instead waiting another year til Matt comes back.

  • Mike Lloyd

    I’m at the point where I believe the Mets are trying to keep Flores at AAA. I don’t think they know what to do with him…they must not be in earnest to see if he can play there? Yawn…more Drew drivel. When will the blatant “tactical’ negotiating stop between Drew and the Mets? We aren’t adding more payroll…yawn. As if that was even crossing Sandy’s mind. Drew’s friend says it’s unlikely he will be signing with the Mets. Boras trying to raise the offer for a client that has lost leverage. Yawn. What else is new…

  • Met lifer

    Are you kidding???? They would never spend that much money. I can’ t imagine what they offered Peralta.

  • Captain America

    Would you rather have 8 Mike trout level talents in the field at 1 million each or the payroll and lack of production from guys like the Yankees fielded last year.

    Buddy it’s not always payroll.

  • WillisReid

    Well, in that case I’m rooting for Tovar. None of them are great with the bat, but at least he can play some defense.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Really? We’re actually giving credence to quotes from “friends” of players?

  • Fair enough. Thing is shouldn’t we be trading pitching not bats?? We need bats (and yes I count Flores as a bat, he has hit well in upper minors) and well we’re projected to start the Youngs, Duda or Davis, and Tejada…so if they count as bats, I’m counting Flores.

  • Haha. Leave the guy be. Their thinly veiled plan seems to be let the vets get first shot to buy time for Montero and deGrom (20 days), and then Syndergaard (projected Super Two cutoff date). Use Mejia in bullpen initially, a la the Cardinals, and then maybe even trade Niese or Gee come July. This might not be the exact plan, but it also just might be.

  • Bail4Nails

    “Dear Sandy, I promise I have financial flexibility with my Summer Budget. But I would have to see the Value in raising expenditures beyond those constraints. We currently don’t project those 90-Win predictions to be the proper fit with our present reality, in light of certain changes in the market combined with your inability to shop (or trade) in said market, and therefore shall pass on this contract.”– Translated from Sandy Speak — “I’m Not Buying Tickets, Because You Suck Management.”

  • Met lifer

    Ditto! You can be my spokesman.

  • Tommy med

    Lol .

    That’s all I get left about this saga. Lemme just say this. I’ve said it a bunch of times but it’s looking more and more likely. If Omar Quintinilla gets any playing time this season as a regular I’m boycotting this team . The Long Island ducks will see my money before this freakin team.

  • Charley’s Twin

    I actually see this as a good sign we might get him after all. This has to be the 10th leak that he’s not seriously considering signing here. His bluff has been called

  • Tlagee

    The frustration isn’t with signing Drew – it’s the Mets
    front office and ownership not addressing obvious problems during the off
    season.

    Last year our problems were as obvious. Before the season
    started I predicted 75 wins if memory serves me. That was one more than they
    actually got. The reason for the prediction was the team was entering the
    season with holes. And the Mets were knocked out of contention by mid-May – a
    month before Wheeler came up.

    Further frustrating is the about of bull coming from the
    lips of Sandy and the Wilpons. 2014 was
    the year of contention – this was boldly announced years ago – well before
    Harvey became and all-star. On one hand they say that the budget will increase
    – that this off season was what they had been preparing for. Then they go and
    spend the equivalent of what every team got in the TV deal and then Sandy
    announces he’s done. We are going in with a smaller budget than last year.

    And we still have major holes – same as last year. It seems
    to be a strategy that will never work.

    Obviously the ownership has major financial issues. This is
    the number one baseball market in the world and we are close to the bottom in
    payroll.

    And, they just announced parking is going up to $22 dollars
    – a two dollar increase!

    And, they indicate that they need more fans in the stadium
    to increase payroll.

    And they tell Collins that he has a 90 win team.

    And on and on…

    I like the Grandy and Colon signings. but they are basically
    replacing Bryd’s outstanding numbers and Harvey.

    I think they may hit 78 wins this year – call me an
    optimist.

  • Charley’s Twin

    sounds like his “friend” is Boras to me

  • jason bay

    I think that is the plan although the trade deadline is probably where they want to get Montero too if possible.

  • Makes sense. However…injuries (you can’t see coming) and ineffectiveness (you can’t help but see coming with the veteran arms) might change everything.

  • Met lifer

    The worst thing that happened was when they got out of the Madoff mess. They should have been forced to sell the team to someone who cares. Like a Mark Cuban or somebody like that who would do whatever it takes to have a winner.

  • jason bay

    You can’t give up Montero and deGrom just might be our swingman-spot starter or at least 3 years of credible AAA depth.

    I love Reyes but 4/82 M is a hell of a lot of money. Money I would be glad to see spent but not at the cost of two pretty damn good prospects.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yeah, you can’t do that.

  • Selig could say something like:

    “Pursuant to my authority as Commissioner, I informed New York Mets owner Fred Wilpon today that I will appoint a representative to oversee all aspects of the business and the day-to-day operations of the Club. I have taken this action because of my deep concerns regarding the finances and operations of the Mets and to protect the best interests of the Club, its great fans and all of Major League Baseball. My office will continue its thorough investigation into the operations and finances of the Mets and related entities during the period of Mr. Wilpons’s ownership. I will announce the name of my representative in the next several days.

    The Mets have been one of the most prestigious franchises in all of sports, and we owe it to their legion of loyal fans to ensure that this club is being operated properly now and will be guided appropriately in the future.”

    Yeah, cuz you can

  • BarnRat

    We should have a special Mets version of the Mendoza line: we cross it when we have a ML player at each position.

  • jason bay

    The hand could be forced but that’s what Lannan and Dice K are for, then comes deGrom, Montero and Syndergaard and I really do sense Niese and Gee (plus others) getting us Pederson and Sardinas or something roughly comparable.

    The experimentation and growing value phase will be over by July 31st as long as the market cooperates. If not it’ll be Escobar, Lowrie, Ramirez or Cabrera in FA.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Good idea. Defense first, please.

  • yeah, because the Mets didn’t want to sign him when he was 3 years younger, now they’re going to give up 2 highly regarded prospects for the chance to pay him now that he’s 3 years older.
    More spot on baseball analysis from Mr Dunn

  • Bail4Nails

    The amount or ranking of the Mets payroll is not what’s important here. The constant penny-pinching cheapness of our Owners is what bugs us. If they are simply waiting to sign Drew until after Opening Day, so they don’t lose a 3rd-Round Draft Pick. Okay, we can live with that. But, when we see the lengths these guys will go to save a dollar (I had to listen to Rush Limbaugh instead of the Met game at work the other day), you don’t put any thought of cheapness past the Wilpons.

  • which Lagares? The July version who was on fire or the one who played the other 5 months of the season never cracking .300 OBP in a single one?

  • trevordunn

    probably 2 years 8 million lol

  • trevordunn

    the Twins and Royals have a higher payroll which is absolutely pathetic

  • trevordunn

    there would be a parade in the streets of nyc if the new commissioner got rid of the Wilpons and brought in a real owner..A new owner who would up the payroll to 180 million where it belongs, lock up Harvey and wheeler to long term deals and actually sign free agents instead of lowballing them…one can dream

  • BehindTheBag

    Yeah, because they didn’t do that with the McCourts. Oh, wait, they did.

  • BehindTheBag

    ugh, not Tovar.

  • Sylow59

    If he signs before the season there is a potential for a QO on a 1-year deal. By signing after the season begins that is lost. Since this is worse off for the signing team there is no way it increases his value or liklihood of a 1-year deal.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    As bad as the Wilpons situation is, it’s not as bad as McCourt’s was. The Mets might not have a lot to spend, but their checks aren’t bouncing.

    The Wilpons made a bad investment. They don’t have any shady charity organizations, they’re not filing for bankruptcy and they’re not being investigated by the IRS for tax evasion.

    No crime against being stupid.

  • BehindTheBag

    Ok, repeat after me…we are not getting Jose Reyes…we are not getting Jose Reyes.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Not nearly the same situation.

  • Dude you know I love Pederson, so don’t even joke about that. My dream was to acquire him and pair him with Puello in Vegas, and then watch scouts drool. Anyway, I actually don’t think they acquire a young OFer anymore, not unless they move Chris Young mid-season as well. I would do backflips for Jesus if we netted Sardinas, or any legit SS prospect.

  • Bail4Nails

    Funny, I think I saw a paraphrased copy of that statement in Frank McCourt’s house. I guess it’s nice to have friends in high places, and be “too big to fail”.

  • BehindTheBag

    Yeah, kind of the same. The McCourts were looting their baseball operations to fund their personal empire. The Wilpons have looted SNY and lowered payroll enormously to resolve their person debt situation.

  • because MLB gave them a handout and helped them secure financing. They were primary beneficiaries of the biggest financial scheme in history. They could have very easily been forced out just like McCourt was. Not only can it happen, there is very recent precedent

  • BehindTheBag

    I’m not sure I follow. I thought the QO (from the Sox) is off the table after he turned it down. Now, if he signs any deal with any team before the June amateur draft, the team that signs him is docked the highest eligible draft pick up to a possible first rounder, and the Sox get a compensation pick. If a team signs him after the June draft, there’s no draft pick penalty or draft pick compensation for the Sox.

  • I agree with you. And I’m only commenting because every time I see Mike Trout mentioned on a Mets blog, I start thinking of what it’d be like to have him come back east and play for us. Awesome right?? Ok, carry on now.

  • after the way this offseason panned out, who in their right mind is gonna offer Drew a QO at the end of the year. He’d pull a groin muscle jumping at the offer 🙂

  • BarnRat

    Ok, that was funny

  • but if he waits until the day after Opening Day to sign, the team that signs him has to give up the pick to the Sox AND cannot offer him a QO at the end of the year

  • BehindTheBag

    Oh, gotcha. Well, the way the QO thing backfired this year, I doubt anyone would offer him a QO, since he’ll take it in a heartbeat, and you’ll be overpaying your SS next year.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Well now let’s take a step back. You’re saying the Wilpons made the most money of anyone in the Madoff ponzi scheme? That’s simply not accurate. As I recall, there was question of whether or not they even made or lost money.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    The Mets own SNY. You can’t loot from yourself. And there’s no rules against lowering payroll as long as they’re spending the appropriate amount of revenue.

  • BehindTheBag

    There are also no rules that say you can’t sign a $3B TV deal and pocket all the cash.

  • BehindTheBag

    I believe Bobby Bonilla was the biggest beneficiary of the Madoff scandal.

  • Met lifer

    They made money and withdrew money from their funds. They just did not make what they thought they had made. The lawyer was trying to sue them for those monies saying they knew what was going on and withdrew monies. The claim was they were aware of certain things.

  • heh exactly. Rule requires the player to be on the team for the full season. No matter what happens, unless Drew signs soon and bats .300 with 20 HRs, no one is gonna offer that guy a QO even if they can – especially with the potential available FAs next offseason

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    None of that is the same as them being the main beneficiaries of the largest ponzi scheme in American history

    If they were, they’d be in prison.

  • jason bay

    I think there is a very good chance that they :fix” SS by getting a power LH bat and just go with the winner of Tejada-Tovar with the other one backing up SS and 2B and whoever or whatever platoon works at 1B and Murphy or Murphy-Flores at 2B if Wilmer is out at 1B.

    C – TDA, Centeno
    1B – Duda-Flores
    2B – Murphy-Tejada
    SS – Tovar-Tejada
    3B – Wright-Flores
    LF – Granderson-Puello
    CF – Lagares-MDD
    RF – Pederson-Puello

    Not perfect, not ideal but not bad and with our rotation should be good to compete all year long. Niese for Pederson straight up, and if we could Gee and Cessa for Sardinas, Lindor or Mondesi Jr.

  • that’s exactly what I would argue if I was the primary beneficiary of the largest financial scheme in history

  • BehindTheBag

    Rich people don’t go to prison.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Well now, I think we can understand why MLB might have an issue with that. You’re exaggerating quite a bit. McCourt was being investigated for a lot of serious crimes. The Wilpons are just stupid. They went to court and paid for it. That, I’m sorry to say, is the end of it.

  • Met lifer

    They were not the main beneficiaries, the Madoffs were. The claim was they made money that never was there.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    They would be in prison if you were correct. Quite frankly, you’re exaggerating to the point of fabrication.

  • they successfully argued that they were unaware of the scheme and just thought Bernie was the Wilpons of the financial world where everything he touched turned to gold. They’re delusional like that.
    Regardless of whether they knew or not, the Wilpons’ personal and Mets finances were in shambles. They had to sell pieces of the team to stay afloat and take out loan after loan. More than enough reason for Selig to step in and put the Mets into conservatorship under MLB.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    A lot of people thought they made money that wasn’t there. That’s what a ponzi scheme is. Not really the same as what you said.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Madoff was pretty rich.

  • Ken DeLay has a sad

  • Met lifer

    Exactly. They were forced to pay back money.

  • Bail4Nails

    They are funneling money from their Mets interests (SNY, Payroll, raised prices on the fans), to fund The Willets Point Project, while magically getting their huge loans restructured by “friendly” banks. This, after said project gained land from the chop shops through “eminant domain”, and the City Council (through possible coersion from the Mayor and God knows who else) unanimously gifted the Wilpon Point Project with a plethora of generous tax abatements (taking more money from the fans, but through our paychecks this time). Do we the fans get any kickbacks on the profits gained from this wonderful real estate deal? I mean, we’ve paid enough to be a silent partner of sorts, like Madoff was.
    Yes, unfortunately there is “no crime against being stupid”. But if the Mafia did things like this, they’ d certainly be brought up on RICO charges.

  • Met lifer

    Yeah, with everybody else’s money he stole.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    The Wilpons, along with hundreds of the most brilliant investors in the country and the federal government, fell for Madoff. Let’s not pretend the Wilpons were the only ones.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    So were a lot of people and they didn’t all have their businesses taken away from them.

  • BehindTheBag

    I don’t recall a criminal element in the McCourt case. But the Wilpons were being sued as part of the highest profile financial scandal in history – that’s pretty serious.

    My recollection is that the McCourts were looking to make a 20-year local TV deal with Fox that was heavily front-loaded, to pay for the divorce.

    Selig stepped in, killed that deal, and forced the McCourts to sell. Rationale was he didn’t want owners to monkey around with the solvency and integrity of their baseball finances.

    It’s the same thing as the Wilpons, only the McCourts were nouve riche, while the Wilpons had been faithful Selig foot soldiers for years. So the Wilpons got a payday loan while the McCourts got the boot. That’s the story, not more complicated than that.

  • plausible deniability. The best fund managers in the world have trouble beating the S&P yet they “thought” this guy could return 20% for years and years in a row? No. They just had no concrete reasons to believe it was a scam so they kept rolling with it

  • jason bay

    Where’s Madoff?

  • Met lifer

    No just their life savings in a lot of cases. They had to pay back money, just not as much as what the lawyer was after.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    And now he’s in prison.

  • I still don’t believe (don’t want to believe?) that Tejada or Q will be the opening day SS. I still think that Drew signs a 2 year $20mm deal with the Metropolitans of Queens or they trade with Seattle. If Seattle is scoping Phelps, certainly we can top that offer.

  • BehindTheBag

    Madoff is broke, and now he’s in prison.

  • BehindTheBag

    Not anymore.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    You don’t remember their “charity” they were stealing from and the IRS investigation? It’s all there. The Wilpons are just stupid.

  • I think I’d do Niese for Pederson straight up as well; I really like that proposed team. As for trades, Lindor I think stays, same with Mondesi Jr. But…Texas with all its injuries, might be in need of some pitching, so I can see Sardinas. Heck, let’s hope the Dodgers lock up Hanley and are willing to send us Seager.

    The good news is, in the next year or two, we should have options to make some legit improvements.

  • Met lifer

    They never reclaimed all he stole.

  • BehindTheBag

    And the Wilpons were hunted down by Irving Picard and paid $162M to the Madoff victims fund…McCourt repaid $100K to the charity that he ripped off.

    They are both crooks. Not sure of your point.

  • Peter

    Alderson and Boras mainly could be waiting for the season to start to sign for that reason, Boras might not let Drew sign until the start of the season so next year there is no draft pick attachment. Then maybe he takes it on the chin like Cruz and signs a one year deal for 8 to 10 mill with Mets. And if Mets have no shot (which I Doubt, they will be in it in my view), then they trade him in July along with Colon. That all makes more sense now. Boras might think 2 year 20 mill not good enough compared to what he can get on the open market next off season with no draft pick compensation and many shortstops changing teams if they are not resigned. Teams will have a need.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    The Wilpons did not commit a crime, per se. They were ignorant of their involvement in a ponzi scheme and they paid the cost.

    McCourt willfully evaded taxes and stole money.

    That’s my point.

  • Peter

    Guys the rule is stating that as long as he signs after the season starts he can’t be offered a qualifying offer no natter how good he is. He will be a free agent with no attachment unlike the other free agent SS next year. It’s an advantage for Boras and Drew next off season and a clear reason why he has not signed.

  • BehindTheBag

    I never bought the argument that the Wilpons were innocent dupes. It just stretched the bounds of credulity to me that individuals who made a fortune in shrewd real estate investments would never question the feasibility that a miracle investment instrument could deliver double digit returns, year over year, regardless of market conditions?

    Then, there’s this smoking gun…

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/11/sports/baseball/noreen-harrington-says-she-alerted-mets-owners-of-concerns-with-madoff-investments.html?_r=0

  • mad met

    It is difficult to read this team .. YES because they are clueless !!!!!!

  • jason bay

    That’s the way I see it Henry.

  • BarnRat

    Any idea why Cruz didn’t go this route if he’s only getting a 1 year deal?

  • Joey D.

    Hi Joe D.

    It’s becoming that bad that a reporter now has to quote a “friend” for news about Drew? As I suggested before “All the Drews that’s fit to print”.

  • Captain America

    If drew signs after opening day it’s so he doesn’t have a qualifying offer over his head again next year.

    Period

  • Metro12

    That’s not a smoking gun. A smoking gun is incontrovertible evidence. Harrington in fact had no evidence. Only suspicions. She even tells the Mets owners she “could be wrong” about her suspicions.

    Were Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz stupid for investing with Madoff? Yes. Very. But there has never been any evidence that they were in on the criminal conspiracy. Just about all of Wall St. was duped by Madoff. The SEC even investigated him before he was eventually busted and found no wrong-doing. If the SEC could find nothing wrong, it’s easy to see why seasoned investors like the Mets owners were duped also.

    And by the way, what McCourt was doing was different from what the Wilpons had done. McCourt was using team money for extravagant personal expenses and the Dodgers were also close to not making payroll many times. IIRC, McCourt had to file for bankruptcy. It was a very different situation than what happened to the Mets.

  • Metro12

    Sherman actually says Boras might still sit Drew out until after the draft. That’s because his value will still be compromised if a team signs him before then, because they will lose a draft pick. This could work out perfectly for the Mets. Try out Tejada and Flores at shortstop first and if neither does well there, then wait till after the draft and sign Drew for the rest of the season. If one of them succeeds there, then no need for Drew. Either way, no draft pick is lost and no long-term contract is needed.

  • elcorazon86

    I can understand Boras waiting to sign Drew until after the season starts. He will only go for a one year contract so he can go back into the market next year. I also think that teams also have leverage. Just because Boras is asking for amount equal to the qualifying offer does not mean he will get it. Drew will want to sign and teams will know this. He already did not sign this year so is he going to keep waiting next year? Next year there are a lot more free agent shortstops on the market than this year. What happens if Drew has a bad year? Lots of variables.

  • Matt Mosher

    Man….did Boras ever whiff on this one. These guys are going to think long and hard about accepting the QOs from now on.

  • Matt Mosher

    Never a good thing to just skip three months of your career either.

  • whensly

    I went into a great bakery last week and the lovely owner told me about the brownies ( no not those kind:). They were made with all natural everything and she said they were insanely delicious. I’m not one to dispute so i said “sure i’ll take one”. Then the baker said”ok that’s $8.55 with tax”. Whoa whoa whoa $8.55 for a BROWNIE? I slowly walked backwards out of the shop. I would not be buying an 8 and a half buck freaking Brownie, no matter how cute the bakery girl was.

    This is similar to what Sandy and the METS are experiencing Drew and Boras. The Mets were willing to pay Drew around 9 or 10 million for a year or two of service but Boras is holding fast at 14 mil for 3-4 years. That’s a lotta dough for a Brownie or an average SStop.

    Of course the Mets are interested but not at that price. Hard for most humans to understand how being offered 9 million to play a season of baseball would be turned down by ANYONE? Remember when Knicks star Latrell Sprewell balked at 27 million dollars saying ” i’ve got mouths to feed”? He never played as a pro again.

    I dunno, if someone offered me 9 million to work half a year 162 days or less, that buys a lot of overpriced brownies. Addendum: saw a sign on the lovely bakery yesterday “CLOSING THIS WEEK” . Pretty baker must have Scott Boris as an agent.

  • oleosmirf

    what if he signs a 2 year deal?

  • calamityfrancis

    to be fair, 2014 was never mentioned as ‘the year’ when Sandy took over. I would be happy to be proven wrong on that point.

  • letsgomets28

    The simplest answer is to just go out and acquire Franklin…he would not be a quick fix like Drew and would be a part of our future while giving us the best chance to win this year.. unlike drew he would be part of our core for the next 6-7 years with d’Arnaud, Wright, Granderson, Murphy, Franklin, Syndergaard, Harvey, Wheeler…give him a year at shortstop we have nothing to lose and if he cannot play the position, move him to second for 2015 and trade Murphy for another valuable piece…
    He would also add so much more depth to our lineup since he can run, hit for power, and most importantly get on base…if Collins was created we could have this as our potential lineup
    EYJ-LF
    Franklin-SS
    Murphy-2B
    Wright-3B
    Granderson- RF
    CY- CF
    Duda/Satin/Davis-1B
    d’Arnaud-C
    Pitcher
    saving the money from not signing drew, chirs young’s contract coming off the books, and the possibility of murphy, colon, gee, niese being traded would free up enough money for us to sign a MAJOR FA or trade for someone like Cargo, Stanton, Kemp

  • mets2014

    I don’t think he wants to at this point since the offers he has received probably have a low AAV…he probably would sign a 1 year deal like cruz, but since he waited until the season started, he will not have the QO to deal with at season’s end like cruz will…pretty smart considering the yanks will be looking for a SS…boras is very good at his craft…if he hits a road bump, he restartegizes

  • Mario Caraballo

    lets not turn into metsblog now where they spoke about drew everyday for like 2 months. no need to mention drew again! if he signs with us talk about it. anything else who cares! its a worthless story look for something else please for the love of God!

  • METS62FAN

    WHIFF? WRONG, BORAS IS TRYING RTO BREAK THE SYSTEM NOT BR MALIABLE TO IT. THJIS QUALIFYING OFFER CONCEPT WAS A SHOT ACROSS HIS BOW TRYING TO LIMIT THE MARKET; HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT BORAS’ FIRST USE OF A DREW TO PLAY CHICKEN WITH THE MARKET, AS PHILLY FANS ARE ALL TO FAMILIAR WITH
    I BELIEVE BORAS’ PICTURE HANGS IN THE KREMLIN AS AN INSPIRATIONAL IMAGE OVER PUTIN’S DESK lol

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    It’s really not much of a “smoking gun,” as you put it. Someone warned them and they didn’t listen. Like I said this entire time – they’re stupid, not criminals. You’re acting as if the Wilpons were the only guys to fall for it.

    Madoff was beloved. If anyone called around asking about Madoff, they were told he was a genius, the smartest guy in the room. He duped everyone. Again, there’s no crime against being stupid.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    Yes, thank you. The Wilpons are just stupid. Like a little kid touching a stove after being told it’s hot.

  • Biggle Boy

    I don’t think that Drew will tell Boras he’s OK with just a 1 year deal. And losing a draft pick by signing him to a multi-year contract shouldn’t be as much of an issue with other teams, as SA has made it for the Mets.

    But in any event, the Mets still have a long way to go in upgrading the team. There’s only 3 legit hitters on the club; SS and 1B are big question marks; and the pen depth in quality relievers looks thin, at this point.

    So getting Drew, now, does not seem to be the big issue. I fear that 2014 will just be a further season of evaluating the young kids, and then over the winter, making decisions on trades and FAs to fortify weaknesses for 2015.

  • Met lifer

    Don’t worry, he is not signing here. Even after the start of the season. Boras likes playing games and probably feels the Mets strung him along to get his player on the cheap. Even if we get the donation cup going outside of Citifield, the Wilpons will probably use it for a beach house in the Hamptons. It will be Tejada or Q opening day.

  • Fast Eddie

    So lets get this straight…All we heard from Alderson and the Mets in the off season was that their two main priorities were upgrading SS and first base because we couldn’t possibly be a winning team with the players we have there currently. In fact, they made it well known just how unhappy they were with Ruben Tejada and Ike Davis by leaking stories to the media about how they were looking to either trade them or replace them. Well, here we here we are are in Spring Training 2014 and we have the same issues at both positions. We have to watch Tejada everyday and worry if we’ll ever get anything out of him and we have the same “battle” at first with Davis and Lucas Duda. Meanwhile, there is a very good SS STILL out there who hits better than Tejada, fields better than Tejada and has a professional work ethic that we could have for a very reasonable price tag, but we just don’t want our payroll a penny higher than 85 million dollars. That SS is named Stephen Drew and he also helped the Red Sox win the World Series last year. But, we don’t need this type of player here, right? Oh and remember, we are SUPPOSED to be a 90 win team in 2014…Our GM said so and our owner said so. Don’t we all wish that were true.

  • agetting

    But can Franklin play an average SS? Scouting reports out there say he can’t. That’s the big issue here. They need a competent glove at SS. Being able to back up their pitching is key. He’s also going to cost Montero…so that’s another thing to think about

  • Met lifer

    90 win team? Even if they add the spring training wins they couldn’t win 90 win they are presently. And to call the Duda Davis show a battle. More like a spat. Feel like the horse with the carrot. They get it close but can’t get there.

  • mets2014

    they clearly said they were going to upgrade SS and when peralta signed with st Louis the ship sailed and they failed…they never said they were going to upgrade 1B but they were going to straighten out the overload and it seemed that was going to be by trading ike and giving the job to duda, which is still a possibility…they certainly upgraded the OF and the starting rotation…there were a lot of holes to fill with little funds, so there you have it…are they better going into 2014 than going into 2013? I think that is a yes, but I would have liked if they were able to capitalize on some of these bargains that were out there i.e. cruz/morales/drew…IMO this would have showed that they are willing to risk some money to get the fans in the stands

  • Fast Eddie

    >>>IMO this would have showed that they are willing to risk some money to get the fans in the stands<<<

    Putting fans in the stands? Wow, why didn't THEY think of that? Sounds like a solid idea to me. You have to spend money to make money right?…on ticket sales, parking, food, t-shirts, caps etc etc. Other teams want to bring fans into the ballpark. Our owners seem to want to push the fans away…

  • Met lifer

    I agree. That would certainly have put some juice into this team and excitement into the fan base. I know I would have wanted to go see them.

  • Met lifer

    Don’t worry, they have already raised parking rates and are spending 10 million less than last year on payroll! How does that work?

  • Eyeball

    Didn’t I just read something the other day that MMO writers should strive for accuracy, etc, and only post quotes from known, reliable sources?

    I guess it’s OK to reference Sherman’s nonsense.

  • Eyeball

    Honestly, with the overall performance of our shortstops in 2013, there really is nowhere to go but up.

  • Met lifer

    Obviously Cruz is gone ( would have preferred him over Morales ) but Morales and Drew maybe adds 20 mil to payroll,102 million this puts them middle of the pack salary wise, adding the interest back creates maybe 1million more in attendance at $40 average ticket cost creates approx 40 mil in revenue. This pays not only the increase but gets them back the 10 mil they supposedly lost last year and yields a profit. This does not even count the parking increase and the food and merchandise sales. Hard to figure why this does not make sense.

  • ThatGuyWhoLeavesComments

    I don’t know. I think, when it’s a negative, they do it because it riles people up. I mean, a friend of Drew’s? That’s just stupid. I loved when Beltran and Wright called out the “unnamed source” who bashed Tejada. Have something to say? Put a name to it. Also, if Tejada’s out of shape, report what you see with your own eyes, not second-hand info.

  • whensly

    Agents have to do what they think is best for their clients but pro-ballplayers should be playing right now, not playing chicken with teams that have offered mega-millions. Whatever happens with Drew now there will be bad feelings. Either he will blink and accept less money or a team will hold their nose and pay him more than WE ALL know he’s worth. It;s lose-lose from there because one side will be unhappy for losing the standoff. I really hope the Mets pick up another SS or Tejada proves everybody wrong. That’s the best story i can think of. I’m glad the Mets “Drew the line”

  • whensly

    ok if you’ll pay him.

  • schadenfreudianslip

    I feel as though there’s either a lack of reading comprehension here or people just want to ignore the facts.

    If Drew signs a one year deal before the season starts, he’s subject to the QO rule. That is what screwed him this year. Boras won’t let that happen.

    So, if he is going to sign a one year deal, which he is, it has to be after the season starts.

    So for anyone whining about why the Mets haven’t/aren’t getting it done with Drew, realize that Boras is the one who won’t sign a one year deal right now. The Mets aren’t out of it until he signs someone else. If they are in it, its happening season day 2.

  • HarveyKsYou

    Curtis Grandersons friend said the same thing.

  • veech2203

    Why would anyone sign this clown after the season starts, it’s lke throwng money away Screw Boras

  • edk

    wouldn’t the team signing him have to give up a pick in 2014 knowing they can lose him without getting a pick back when he leaves?
    If a team is happy with that, why not just offer him a deal now with language to prohibit a qualifying offer next yr?

    It makes sense for him in year 2+, but he’ll get even less for 2014.
    Giving up a pick for a guy that missed spring training, that will be a free agent next year..does he even get $8M?

    They say the system is broke, but wasn’t a $14m deal pretty generous for a guy like drew? there’s a reality check. My guess is the system will fix itself next year..take the deal unless you’re an elite player.