Source: “Drew Perfectly Healthy, Has No Physical Issues”

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Updated 7:30 PM

Andy Martino of the Daily News reported this morning that according to an official with one team who expressed early interest in Stephen Drew, “his medicals are raising some concerns.”

However, Rob Bradford of WEEI Radio is debunking Martino’s report saying that a source with knowledge of situation says Stephen Drew is perfectly healthy. “No physical issues.”

What a surprise, huh?

Thanks to Bad Bad Leroy Brown for the link.

Original Post 9:30 AM

On Sunday, a source told Adam Rubin, that the Mets remain engaged with agent Scott Boras about Drew, but continue to portray Drew as more of a “possibility” than a “probability.”

Team officials are split on about how valuable Drew would be to the Mets. Some would rather give Ruben Tejada one more shot as the everyday shortstop.

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says that a number of rival executives are baffled as to why the Mets  haven’t signed Stephen  Drew yet.

The Mets gave a four-year deal to Granderson, who turns 33 in March, Rosenthal explains, but. Drew is two years younger, and 2½ years removed from right-ankle surgery.

“The loss of a draft pick and accompanying pool money should barely be a consideration: The Mets’ first-rounder is protected, they already have lost their second-rounder for Granderson and the pick they would sacrifice for Drew would be the 82nd overall.”

I could be wrong, but I still think the main thing holding things up is that Drew want’s a three-year deal and the Mets prefer a one-year deal and for a lot less than what Scott Boras is looking for annually.

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  • Captain America

    When the mets sign drew they will be right in the middle of teams for payroll and hopefully a very competitive team.

  • Super T

    “Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports says that a number of rival executives are wondering why the Mets haven’t signed Stephen Drew?”

    Glad to see it’s more than just us fans.

  • Super T

    Not sure about the being “in the middle of teams for payroll” especially if they dump Ike, but I do agree that if they sign Stephen Drew and get at least league average play from C, 1B, & CF positions (likely) they will likely be close to an overall .500 team.

  • pastline63

    82 Million, they rank in the bottom 10 in payroll, all this after SA said he expected payroll to around 110-115 million range going into next season. Will wonders never cease with this team, even other owners are scratching their heads.

  • Biggle Boy

    I’d love to add Drew’s bat, but I agree with Joe that the Mets prefer a 1 year deal. Drew would have to go unsigned for a lot longer for Boras to meet in the middle of a demand for 3 years and the Mets offer of 1. Not optimistic.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    If its a 2 or 3 year deal at lets just say 10 mill a year…That’s 10 mill you don’t have to spend next year, OR 10 mill you don’t have to acquire part of a players salary in a trade. The Mets operate like an NFL team with a salary cap if you will. Be careful what you wish for as it will limit us in getting other players.
    example – lets say in 4 months COL comes calling for a deal for Cargo, and “we” have the chips and are willing to do it, BUT we don’t have the payroll to add him in… Now it dosnt have to be cargo, but allocation of our payroll is very impt. If money didn’t matter, WHICH IT SHOULDNT, (hey and maybe money wont matter in 4 months to them, lol) then by all means go and sign drew who cares, but because its the wilpons, it could deff cost us of becoming a beter team, IMO.

  • Hotstreak

    Three years is too much. Why don’t other baseball executives sign him?
    It reminds me when Billy Bean was touting the Mets to sign Art Howe. If Ike’s contract is the problem we are still in for a long rough ride. Why was CY signed? No planning. Having no plan is planning for failure. Rebuilding, Contending, Neither or Both. Only the first two options really breed success.

    P.S. If Boston did not resign Bay or Drew yet, maybe we should learn our lesson.

  • Super T

    Not sure why it has to be a “1 year” deal? It’s not like Drew is old at 30 years old (they gave 32 year old Granderson 4 years), or the Mets have a better option at SS in 2015.

  • Christopher Hoffa

    In all honesty, I don’t see any situation where we don’t trade for a big bat next offseason. If we sign Drew, and do trade for a bat, 2015 could be a really good year for us. When I’m talking a big bat, I’m referring to a Stanton/Bautista-esque bat. Probably would require somewhere along the lines of Gee/Niese + Flores + Montero + Plawecki + 1 more solid prospect. Maybe even may require more than that. Even with that, we would still have a solid team/farm.

    Drew (not ideal due to low OBP, but we’d have no other choice)
    Murphy
    Wright
    Big Bat (Bautista/Encarnacion/Stanton would be the most ideal)
    Granderson
    d’Arnaud
    Duda
    Lagares

    Harvey
    Wheeler
    Syndergaard
    Niese/Gee
    Colon/Mejia

    I do believe that 2015 will be a huge year for us if we make the right moves. 2014 seems like a year where I think we could go ~500 if we sign Drew, possibly just over if we have huge steps from d’Arnaud/Lagares in production.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    they don’t sign him cause he only hits 250 with 10 HR. Everyone keeps BS’ing about his WAR, lmao – look at that WAR stat in 2012 and 2011. I think u need to look at average, OBP, HR, SB, and this guy just isn’t someone I would spend 10 mill on.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    What if, having Drews 10 mill salary keeps us from getting that big bat??

  • Benny

    ” Why don’t other baseball executives sign him?”

    Because they are not looking for a SS?

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    he hit 250 last year with 13 hr and 333 OBP, hes not that good. Hes lucky to hit 10 HR in citi field.

  • JustSomeInternetGuyYouDontKnow

    When is this Drew crap going to end. He is not worth the contract. You wouldn’t even be able to trade him if he’s stinking up the joint as I expect. Or spend half the year on the DL. I am not a Tejada fan, never was, but I’d give him 2 or 3 chances before even thinking of Drew.

  • Christopher Hoffa

    Encarnacion will make ~ 10 million annually through 2016, Bautista 14 million annually, and Stanton will be in arbitration through 2017. If we can’t afford taking on 14 million annually at the most, then our owners are absolutely pathetic.

  • Biggle Boy

    I’d sign him for 2 years, as well. My comment about 1 year was just to agree that what Joe wrote is probably true – about an initial Mets offer.

  • pastline63

    You make a valid point but 10 plus 82= 92, 115-92- that leaves you 23 million to work with-that’s numbers crunching. How they determine numbers is up to them.

  • Benny

    It seems that Sandy wants to land him on a one year deal in order to be able to sign one of the SS set to hit the market next year.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    they are pathetic that’s why we don’t sign a lot of big FA, come on man, we have a low budget and need to factor that in sadily

  • BronxMets

    hang on here a second. Didn’t Drew decline the 14M qualifying offer? So how could the Mets possibly sign Drew to one year? It would have to be fore more then 14M and that would be insanity. I think the reason Drew isn’t signed is he is looking for 3/45.

  • BronxMets

    didn’t he turn down a 14M qualifying offer?

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    So 7 for young and this 10 for drew that’s 17 mill we could have to spend on a big bad, or we could just…..

  • BronxMets

    scratching my head wondering where you came up with 110-115M for next year.

  • Benny

    He may have overplayed his hand. His market is nonexistent, and there is no rule that he has to receive more than the QO he rejected. It was a gamble he took and it seems like a bad one so far.

  • Benny

    “He is not worth the contract.”

    What contract?

  • Christopher Hoffa

    Well, in all honesty, there is a possibility that we shed Colon next offseason if he pitches well again this year. That could possibly free up 10 million. In addition to that, even if we don’t trade Colon, I could still see us going up to ~110 million. That would be assuming Drew takes us around 10 million or a tad more, since I believe we’re around 85 million right now.

    Edit: Forgot that C. Young will be gone, so there’s an additional 7.5 million to work with

  • pastline63

    That about sums it up, when you add up adding Drew and another “big bat” it still falls short of the cut off point.

  • pastline63

    As I said they make no sense.

  • pastline63

    Alderson mentioned that in an interview.

  • Benny

    Chris Young was given $7.25 mil and he is not even half the player Drew is, plus Drew plays above average defense at a premium position.

  • BronxMets

    I heard more then 87M but no specific number

  • Benny

    Sandy Alderson is the last person you should be believing when it comes to payroll figures.

  • pastline63

    He mentioned it back in the beginning of november

  • Waz0787

    As of right now our payroll is 10 mil less compare to last year. Wilpons just sell the team. This money thing is ridiculous. Specially when you hear every team is receiving extra cash for the new tv deal.

  • TexasGusCC

    Mitch and Joe, why do we EXPECT Drew to have a 3.4 WAR? Before last year it was a negative WAR, and in 2012 it was 1.7.

  • Benny

    Thank God he doesn’t play all 162 games at Citi Field, right?

  • pastline63

    I am not saying how they should spend, but that 82-85 million is well below the 110-to 115 million he expects.

  • Hotstreak

    Well Benny You proved my point:
    How?

    It’s a buyer’s market so one year at 8.5 M or forgetabouit.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Exactly!!!

  • pastline63

    Stop gap issue makes sense to me also.

  • Hotstreak

    Yes

  • no, just 81. That’s 81 that he’s no longer playing at Fenway. Well, probably more like 50 since he’ll be hurt for a good portion of the year.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    1 year sure but will that prevent sn in season trade? In not then fine

  • Martin

    Offer him one year and if he doesn’t take it, no big deal.

  • letsgomets28

    Drew instantly makes the Mets a better team gives us an average shortstop who can make the plays. Sandy is doing the right thing here as the Mets are the only team that wants to give Drew a 2 year deal. 2 year 26 million dollar deal should get it done…it would put the Mets in a very good position this year to contend for a second wild card and would allow the Mets to go back in the FA pool again(Colon, CY, Drew off the books) in 2016 when Harvey would be a year removed from TJ, and hopefully the other key role players have taken major strides.

  • BehindTheBag

    Newsflash. He won’t take it. He’d go back to the Sox.

  • letsgomets28

    Also I don’t think Ike Davis is holding this back but the fact that Boras is still looking for a 4 year contract offer. I remember reading somewhere that if the Mets cut Ike before a certain time period they would free up most of his salary anyway(which I believe is a big mistake to begin with)

  • Charley’s Twin

    Glad to see the press putting some pressure on these guys. SELL YOU DICKS.

  • WAR was skewed because of 77 games in 12, 86 in 11. He had two big injuries including a broken ankle. In last healthy season in 2011 he had a 4.1 WAR.

    You could essentially double his 1.7 in ’12 had he played 160 games.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    What are the other teams interested in this guy? The Sox at one year? let him go back to them, he’s a good defensive guy who hit in a lineup full of stars. in the mets he’d be boooooo the hell out for his pathetic offense, while his defense will be an upgrade, Tovar is not that far off and he’ll cost $10 million less

  • Benny

    He hit more hrs away, than at home.

  • Martin

    My response to that is, as stated, “no big deal”

  • Charley’s Twin

    Tejada has received “2 or 3 chances” already and squandered them.

  • JustSomeInternetGuyYouDontKnow

    Whatever overpriced contract he gets. He’s going to get at least $10M. Tejada gives you the same production with less power. And Drew’s power numbers will go down in Citi anyway.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Those numbers are pretty good for a shortstop providing 1st rate defense, which is one of our many needs

  • Charley’s Twin

    Tejada plays awful defense and Drew’s is very good

  • BehindTheBag

    And I’m saying, that effectively your position is “I don’t want Drew on my team”.

    Would be akin to saying – Tanaka has never pitched in the majors – I’m going to offer him the league minimum and not a penny more.

  • and is Citi easier or harder to hit homers out of than Fenway? Besides, it is 6 vs 7.

  • BehindTheBag

    I think Drew would make the team better, but only at the right price. I’d be fine with a 2 year deal. Drew has had an up-and-down career in terms of performance and health, and anything more than 2 years would be too big a commitment, and a potential albatross.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Lost in all of this debate of Stephen Drew’s merits is that we have no acceptable alternatives whatsoever at SS, either in the present or in the immediate future. Tejada? Please. Ruben Tejada is awful. Drew looks pretty good when you consider the alternatives

  • goorru

    It’s late early and Sandy has yet to make any moves that impress me. This was suppose to be THE YEAR!. Signing Drew is still not all that impressive. Let’s see Sandy make a trade to bring in some real major league talent. That would be a first.

  • Keith’s stache

    New here & absolutely love Metsmerized Online.

  • BehindTheBag

    I’m equally certain that no such big bopper will be available in trade.

  • Anthony

    I hope they get this done

  • Martin

    It’s not like that at all. It’s like assigning a value to tanaka and not paying more than that. Its like you do with every item in the universe. You set a price for it, and you buy if it is below that price. If a Lamborghini were 4 dollars I would buy it. If it costs more than I am ok with not having it at market price.

  • which he never has 😉

  • Martin

    But I want o emphasize that your tanaka example indicates a tragically poor understanding of how value works.

  • Welcome to MMO and we hope you’ll enjoy our community as well as our diverse and comprehensive content. LGM

  • Benny

    “Tejada gives you the same production with less power.”

    Ha!

    I wasn’t aware of that, thanks for letting me know. I wish I can go back in time and see if you were one of the fans calling for his benching when he was stinking up the joint last year.

  • boraswannabe

    Personally I’d rather explore the trade market. Specifically Owings. I’d rather have a potential long term solution.

  • Benny

    It takes two to tango. I think Drew would rather wait it out, than sign that contract now. It’s still only January.

  • I don’t think it’s so much the money thing. Sandy would love to get Drew on a 1 year deal and dip back into a deeper SS market next year. If he can’t do that, he’ll roll the dice on Tejada and then dip into a deeper SS market next year anyway. Drew really isn’t very good. He’s probably an upgrade over what Tejada might do but if it is longer than a 1 year deal, that’s going to make it hard for SA to get a real impact SS next offseason.

  • Benny

    How do you know how many hrs he will hit on the road against NL pitching?

    “Besides, it is 6 vs 7.”

    It’s still more isn’t it? Plus it stops you guys on here from spreading misinformation that Drew can only hit hrs in Fenway.

  • CThomp519

    People seem to forget that the mets are paying Bay 7 million in each of the next two seasons. You can bet your a$$ that the FO and the Coupons are figuring that into their budget. Which effectively puts the payroll exactly where they were last season.

    So, I wouldn’t expect any more signings unless they trade Ike and save themselves that 4 million he’s owed. Then they could sign Drew and put Tejada in Vegas, saving themselves another million Bucks in salary. Jason’s money counts to the salary they’re figuring into this whole thing. This year and next years 7 million. Remember, his salary was spread out over three years, it wasn’t simply washed away…

  • metsaholic

    Finally, the truth! They can’t afford to own the team!

  • Teacherhst

    Great site. Excited to read a non-biased blog. I love Metsblog but since the Mets got their hands on it, a bit too “pretty” for me.

    I think the Mets should go two years on Drew. That gives ownership a few years to see if Cecchini is the SS of the future or not.

  • BCleveland3381

    A 2 year deal doesn’t hurt this club at all. You sign Drew because Tejada is a terrible player. At his absolute best he’s a .290 singles hitter that plays average defense, which is a solid bench player. During his slumps, he doesn’t belong on a major league roster. Drew has injury risk, but that risk is already being included in his contract. If Drew was a healthy player, he’d be looking at a 5 year, 80 million dollar deal.

    A 2 year deal is perfect because it gives Tovar, Cecchini, and Rosario 2 years to develop and the Mets will have a better idea whether or not any of them have any chance of being the SS of the future.

  • Benny

    And he still put up 3.4 WAR in a limited amount of time.

  • metsaholic

    Actually, I think Metsblog has gotten uglier since it’s take over by SNY. Yes, I think this will be my new site for Mets info.

  • Welcome to the MMO community. As you point out, the Mets need to buy time to see how Cecchini, Muno, Rosario, etc. play out and how quickly they can develop. An internal solution is at least two years away.

  • Waz0787

    Trust me there will be teams in market for as like Hardy. Look being honest mets can not outbid any big guns for a player who has demand. Tejada is horrible period. I rather give drew two years deal at least hoping by then our young as prospects will be ready for the big show.

  • Teacherhst

    That is what I meant. That it seems to have an agenda. Not raw, like it needs to be.

  • same here. Metsblog refugee 🙂

  • Waz0787

    Tejada is horrible. Waiting for the Davis trade. Something must happen with first base situation

  • Waz0787

    Tejada is crap. Look at Mr Wright our captain he is injury prone. Does it mean he is not worth the contact mets are paying?

  • Benny

    Beggars can’t be choosers!

    What was the production we got from the SS position, since Reyes’ departure? It seems you have been watching another team, considering you believe those numbers are bad.

  • Hotstreak

    “His market is nonexistent” yet the Mets should sign him because they need a SS. If the Mets signed him for three years it would be an albatross contract yet you say they need a SS and should sign him. The Mets are not getting him for less than three years so forgetabouit. The Yankees did just that.

  • Off Topic, cool Dickey GIF Deadspin posted today. They color coat the baseball to see the movement, it’s really awesome.

    http://io9.com/behold-the-absolute-mind-f-ckery-of-a-knuckleball-in-f-1494539536/@tcraggs22

  • BCleveland3381

    I make sure to pop over to metsblog at least once a day “recruiting”. I was just going to leave quietly until I found out they were censoring the site name and “disqus” from their comment section. Such a petty move, especially when this site has always been friendly and willing to share the Met fandom with any blog.

    I have no vested interest here financially, but I do want the best community possible here, especially once the game threads start. Metsblog has been deteriorating for years.

  • Waz0787

    Welcome. You’re not the only one who left MB for this site. I agree 2 years deal for either Cecchini or Rosario is ready for big league.

  • Benny

    “The Mets are not getting him for less than three years so forgetabouit.”

    We’ll see…

  • Eric88

    I agree. It’s always about money with the Mets. Yeah, I might set foot in Citi this year. Sure

  • Hotstreak

    As I said three years no way Jose’. He is not signing one year with Mets but with Boston. He will take a less with them than Q offer around 10M . That is why Tejeda is being touted because 8.5 M is probably max. left if Ike stays. SS if fielding OK can bat .250 with limited power batting 8th and is cheap. Mets need cheap..

    ST will play out IB and SS. If Drew agrees to 8.5 M with Mets that would be ok but it not happening with Borus.

  • Thank you. I am very humbled by how many of you appreciate the hard work me and my 40+ fellow writers put into MMO. It’s not easy and comments like yours make it all worth it.

    I wrote Matt and told him how offended I was that any mention of our site was now banned. I did not get a reply. I also reached out to him on New Year’s Day and offered to work together and show some solidarity for the sake of all Met fans and to promote a positive message. Also got no reply.

    I don’t know why they view us as a threat as we are two completely different sites. He focuses on beat writer reports where we are mostly opinion, analysis and write full length original articles.

    I remain open to them for creating unity and not division. We owe that to our readers.

  • Sal

    The longer this goes on, the smaller the chances are that someone gives Drew a 2-3 year deal. I think he’s just waiting for Alderson to blink, and Alderson is waiting for Drew to realize he won’t.

  • ill_egl

    Since when did Drew’s “solid” defense as everyone else has described it become 1st rate? Thats the first time im hearing this.

  • Hotstreak

    Fair enough. Borus plays Mets as patsies which they are. Who wants to play here? Everybody from Grandy to Colon gets more not less years.

  • Matt Mosher

    I don’t see it at all. The Mets are not going to give up another draft pick.

  • That is so awesome!

  • Novito

    That’s because this site IS a THREAT to them. Their site is cheesy & repetitive, while here you get the real deal. Its the difference in doing a site to get paid, or because you really love it. Great that you’re humbled about it tho. Keep up the great work.

  • Alex

    He would cost a third round pick and about 8-10 million per. All other teams have at least one good short stop and don’t need to pay that price. MLB has to rethink this draft pick deal.

  • Matt Mosher

    MMO is twice the site Metsblog is. They very much see this site as a threat.

  • Charley’s Twin

    well Joe, you are a much better person than i am 🙂 Thanks for creating a great site. Matt Cerrone is a twerp.

  • greggofboken

    And this is the point. He cannot seem to stay on the field consistently. If the Mets did know what they were going to get, it’s a no-brainer….and the point that when healthy, he’s consistent is correct. So….in my view, no. The Mets have no idea of what to depend on Drew for. I think it’s the single largest reason no one’s signed him. A 3.4 WAR player that could be depended upon wouldn’t have a problem getting a 3-year deal at least in the neighborhood of that qualifying offer.

  • Connor O’Brien

    It seems like readership has really picked up since switching to Disqus.

  • BCleveland3381

    Why not? This isn’t the NFL.

  • BCleveland3381

    If you weren’t a threat to them, they wouldn’t have censored your name 🙂

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Have you seen our Picks under this FO? would you really be upset if we lose a most likely BUM we’ll pick in the 3rd round? To me, i could care less about the pick, my problem is he’s not worth it and won’t fit here in NY.

  • Charley’s Twin

    use whatever adjective you like. How would describe the defense of Ruben Tejada? I’d say it’s atrocious.

  • BCleveland3381

    Sandy knows he has little competition for Drew. We all know he has very little money left to spend, but why should Sandy put an offer out right now? There is no reason to. He knows if he makes an offer right now, before Drew and Boras are desperate, that offer will by used solely as leverage to get a better deal from the Red Sox. The Sox have reportedly offered Drew a one year deal and he’s waiting for something better. At some point the Sox will tell him to take it or leave it and Sandy will hopefully have a 2 year deal to give Drew at the same time.

    Going into the off season, if someone told me we would sign Drew, Grandy, Chris Young, and Colon, I would be completely happy with that. We need Drew because SS was our biggest need. But if we are able to get him, this was a great off season for the Mets.

  • goorru

    There is only a 32% chance a 3rd round pick at least reaches the major leagues.

  • metFAN660

    I’m sorry, but the people making the most noise over how “perfect” Stephen Drew is for the Mets are rival executives and his agent, Scott Boras. They are not our friends. Rival executives want the Mets to suck…and Drew’s agent only cares about getting the best deal for his client. Duh.

  • Tacohow

    If we sign drew does he bat lead off? My biggest concern is their obsession with playing Eric young and Chris young in the OF. I want Legares out there for a full season to see if offensively he can cut it. I are more potential from him than I did from Carlos Gomez when he first came up. Could he develop into that kind of player? You don’t know if he’s on the bench.

  • Charley’s Twin

    yeah! let’s stick it to them by handing Tejada the job without competition yet again!

  • Keith’s stache

    same here. LGM

  • Keith’s stache

    Thank you. I have a feeling I’m going to be a regular here, at least reading wise.

  • butlerbMMO

    Anyway you look at it, defensively, offensively, the numbers show that Stephen Drew is an upgrade over Tejada. Hands down.

    However, that doesn’t mean he comes out of the box PERFECT or he comes out as a TOP 10 SS. I dislike the fact that he is an inconsistent hitter and I also dislike the fact that he hasn’t played nearly a full-season since 2008 (meaning INJURY-PRONE).

    If the Mets were to get Drew on a team-friendly contract, I would be fine with Drew as the SS. If they overpay, which is something I believe they will have to do, then I won’t be as thrilled.

  • Raww

    Take the money you’d pay Drew and instead make a deal with the Diamondbacks or Mariners, who are both possible Tanaka suitors. I’m sure they could use the, say, 8mil.

  • Connor O’Brien

    Make sure to check out our affiliate MetsMinors.net too! 😉

  • goorru

    Isn’t it ironic and/or hypocritical the same guy (Cerrone) who criticized the Wilpons for banning Megdal bans your name from his site.

  • Harvey33

    Tovar is nothing more than Tejada with a little better glove. But I agree with everything else you said.

  • Super T

    And unlike the Mets, many other teams would have to sacrifice their 1st round draft pick to sign Stephen Drew.

  • Run Support Group

    I’d like to think they’d bat Drew leadoff. He batted .284 as a leadoff hitter for Arizona in albeit a fairly limited time. I agree, though, Lagares has to play. I think he can hit .270 and play GG defense

  • mord13

    This is a stopgap move for two years until a younger player can fill the role. It also provides a proven major league quality player with a good reputation, qualities that were sorely lacking after D. Wright last year. This move alone does not make or break this team but combined with the Granderson and Young signings along with what we hope are breakout seasons for players like D’Arnaud and Lagares at the plate this team should be much better offensively.

  • Run Support Group

    If rival GMs wanted us to suck they’d say Tejada should start

  • BCleveland3381

    Drew IS a perfect fit for us. I can’t imagine any other team in the majors got less value out of their SS position last season than the Mets did. Drew is probably only going to be a 2 year commitment. The money is irrelevant to me, because it’s pretty obvious that if we don’t sign Drew the money isn’t getting spent elsewhere. Nobody else in our organization is even close to MLB ready.

    If Drew gets injured, we just play Tejada and we’re no worse than we would have been without Drew. If Drew stays healthy, we probably get 3 more wins this season. That’s solid risk/reward.

  • Run Support Group

    Well obviously Sandy can’t say Drew is a perfect fit or Boras would use it to drive his price up

  • Andrew Herbst

    I’d give Drew a 2 year deal.

  • Run Support Group

    2 years for 20-25 million

  • Super T

    Granderson was injured and out for a good part of 2013 and that is why the Mets were able to sign him to the deal they did.

    Same principle is probably applicable to Drew. If he hadn’t of broken his ankle, he probably wouldn’t have to be “settling” for a deal now.

  • number6

    I left MetsBlog for MMO

  • MyasDaddy

    Ok… Guys you got me here. Let’s see what it’s all about.

  • BCleveland3381

    If d’Arnaud can hit .265/.320 for us with 12-14 HRs over a full season, I think that’s a reasonable step forward for his first full season.

    Lagares will hopefully be in the .250/.300 8-10HRs/20SB range.

    These 2 guys having reasonable years in their first full seasons means just as much as anything Grandy, or potentially Drew would do offensively. We need them to at least hold their own in the lineup.

  • This has T-Shirt/Bumper sticker written all over it. Though Copyright will prob be an issue. 🙂

  • Waz0787

    Wilpons write his checks. Dont blame him. His site is dying. How do you filter the word suck. Oh try typing any negative comments it will go to the pending status. Livefyre is horrible way to communicate specially in a blog site.

  • Super T

    “Going into the off season, if someone told me we would sign Drew, Grandy, Chris Young, and Colon, I would be completely happy with that. We need Drew because SS was our biggest need.”

    Totally concur with this. Still would like to get a big bat (Cargo, Encarnacion, Stanton) and leadoff hitter, but Rome wasn’t built in just one season. Harvey comes back and Thor and Montero establish themselves positions in the Mets rotation, and we should have lots of potential trading chips (Colon, Niese, Gee, etc) to get a big bat and leadoff hitter for 2015.

  • metFAN660

    You want to spend $20M+ to create a little competition? I don’t know for sure, but it seems to me that his future as a major league player being on the line might be an equally good incentive for Tejada to get right.

  • Waz0787

    Would the mets considered taking bad salary from either Mariners or the Diamondbacks along with one of their young SS? It helps them clear money for Japanese pitcher.

  • greggofboken

    Agreed. But whereas Granderson’s were due to HBP’s and oughtn’t be expected to repeat, Drew’s were for a broken ankle from a slide (and commentary from the D-backs implying he ought to have been back sooner), a concussion, and a hammy. I think there’s much higher risk here.

  • Matt Stephens

    I didn’t realize you were allowed to have posts with actual statistics and opinions in them until I left MetsBlog!

  • Matt Stephens

    If it’s only logical, why not? I’m afraid we’re going to run into another Michael Bourn type situation where the Mets duck out at the last second and let the Red Sox get him back for cheap. I am not interested in another season of Ruben Tejada!

  • diehardmets

    He won’t give you 3.0 WAR, that’s overly optimistic. Projection systems currently have him at about 2.0 (which may be slightly underselling), but in 600 AB, a mark the injury prone Drew hasn’t achieved since 2010. He’s worth no more than $8 million per yer on a 2 year deal.

  • Destry

    Do you know why he hasnt had 600 AB since 2010? How many 600 AB seasons has Tejada had? Wouldnt400 AB from Drew & 200 from Tejada still be 10 x better than 600 piss poor ABs from Tejada.

  • BehindTheBag

    You mean like Robby Cano? 🙂

    It’s a nice, idea, but Seattle doesn’t really have any big contracts besides King Felix:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dHdUUk5FMjA1c0ctbzlpbGdOUVV1eUE&output=html

    Arizona is another story:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ah4PW47PiAi-dGRoVWJjV0pwZVFabE9GbDBUamdyWUE&output=html

    Maybe Brandon McCarthy or Cody Ross?

  • Destry

    Would you rather trade our young pitching prospects or give up a 3rd RD pick.

  • BehindTheBag

    Ok, brother, whatever that means.

  • IAmTheMetsMan

    Finally, I can use my disqus account again. Switching comment systems was the final nail in the coffin for metsblog, in my opinion.

  • Destry

    What moves would you have made then?

  • BCleveland3381

    You’re spending money in Wilpon dollars.

  • Destry

    Even at 3/$36 thats not an albatross. Reyes at 4/$82 is an albatross.

  • metFAN660

    He’s only an upgrade if you are convinced that what you saw from Tejada last year is what he’s going to do this year. Just like letting Josh Satin play 1st is an upgrade if Ike Davis 2014 is a repeat of ID 2013. My hunch is that at 23 and 26 years old, it’s too early to give up on either of them, and spending big money, (at this stage), for a replacement or to “push” them is a mistake. And if they have given up on Tejada, they should trade for a stud, not waste time and money on a overrated, slow-starting, overpaid, declining, injury-prone FA like Drew.

  • boraswannabe

    That 3rd round pick is for nothing more than a stopgap mind you.

  • Destry

    .284/.377/.498 vs RHP in 2013. That means hes the best hitter in our lineup anytime a RHP is on the mound, or 70% of the time.

  • BCleveland3381

    Drew is an upgrade over Tejada at his best, offensively and defensively.

  • Destry

    They need to just cut him now & sign Drew. Instantly adds 4 wins to our team.

  • BronxMets

    that was part of it the way CErrone managed the transition is what did it for me.

  • Destry

    -WAR? WTF? You dont know what youre talking about.

  • goorru

    The next time I have a face to face discussion with a GM from another team i’ll let you know. This is Sandy’s job not mine.

  • Destry

    3.4 player with no injury risk would get 7/$140. Just ask Choo.

  • WillisReid

    They could use another LH bat lower in the line up, and Tejada would be a solid back up getting AB’s vs LHP on occasion.

    I don’t think Ike’s money is that much of an issue though. If they wanted Drew badly enough they could cut Ike for only $600k. i think it’s Ike and Murphy’s money and not wanting to lose the production from 2B.

  • Destry

    Yep. A healthy 150 G Stephen Drew could easily be 4.0-4.5 WAR player.

  • Destry

    If Davis is holding this deal up, then trade him for a bag of flaming shit, and lets have a real SS, & rid ourselves of a crybaby.

  • Destry

    Hardy & Lowrie arent better than Drew. Neither is Asdrubal Cabrera.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Drews war was3.4 yes but what was it last year??? Or the year before??? Pretty bad.

  • Benny

    As he proved in 2010 (4.7 WAR).

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    +1

  • Jimmy Broadway

    We need a leadoff hitter from the ss position. Drew is a bottom of the order guy.

  • Harvey33

    Notice the drop off in activity in the comment section on MetsBlog.. Many have come over here.

  • Nolrog

    >>> I don’t believe this has anything to do with the pick quite honestly, and that it has everything to do with money.Because a big market team shouldn’t be spending more that 82 million dollars. /smh

  • Benny

    “Drews war was3.4 yes but what was it last year???”

    It was 3.4 last year.

    Since you like going by past numbers, why not mention his 4.7 WAR in 2010? Or does that not fit your agenda on here?

  • Nolrog

    Hah. C-ERROR-one

  • Titofuria

    The biggest upgrade for the METS would be to send Montero, Murphy and maybe Dendekker to Toronto for Jose Reyes!!!!!!

  • elcorazon86

    I think Drew would be good sign by the Mets obviously depending on contract. I think a two year contract with guarantees or option of another year depending on how healthy he his. This give the Mets a little protection and its another short term deal. He plays good defense and with Murphy, d’Arnuad, and Lagares also up the middle I think he would make the defense even stronger. Also, Drew just played on a world series winner. With the young players the Mets have on the team and coming up I see nothing but Drew being a positive. Also, another signing like this gets the fan base excited and sells tickets. Another positive is it protects the minor league system and we don’t have to trade anyone, most importantly, trade any pitching.

  • Wright has been more sturdy than Drew over the course of their careers – especially over the past few years. Of course, this is on top of the fact that a healthy Wright and a healthy Drew aren’t even in the same league offensively. I’ll miss Wright for a few dozen games a season because you know he’ll be hitting around .300 with power for the time he’s healthy. Drew won’t.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’ve been saying that for months. The problem is who is that player? How do we get him?

  • Waz0787

    Reyes is not coming back.

  • Alberto Salebe

    I’m a deserter also and love MMO

  • #hashtag

    Very cool. It makes me miss the Dickey!

  • KennyandtheMets

    I agree. It seems like Sandy went into the winter meetings looking to deal Ike and Murphy. Now that they are still here, the plan has changed.

  • skyking26

    I rather hold on to Ike and Murphy. Drew, I’m not sold on for what he would cost and years. I rather see $10M+ spent wisely. Right now I’d be happy if Duda was traded. Davis, Murphy or Duda is not going to land anyone’s #3 pitching prospect. We have a better chance landing a ss than someone’s #3 pitching prospect.

  • Jimmy Broadway

    Either through Seattle or Arizona.

  • KennyandtheMets

    d’Arnaud will get his chance to do that. Lagares, however, might not be starting. Collins has stated in interviews, since the signings of C. Young and Granderson, that EY2 is his lead off hitter. If that holds true, I don’t see Lagares getting enough at bats.

  • Benny

    We had him, but we were too cheap to keep him. Sometimes I wish we were a Big Market team.

  • EzRider

    Why waste the time looking for bad contracts. Wheeler for Nick Franklin (or Brad Miller). Take the money we might think about spending on Drew and give a pitcher and BP guy one year deals. Try to trade IKE and give N. Cruz a one year deal.
    1. Franklin-SS
    2. Murphy- 2B
    3. Wright- 3B
    4. Cruz- LF
    5. Granderson- CF
    6. CYoung- RF
    7. Duda- 1B
    8. d’Arnaud- C
    Bench
    Centeno/EYjr/Tejada/Satin/Neuwenhuis
    Rotation
    1. Colon
    2. Niese
    3. Gee
    4. Saunders or Jason Hammel or Jerome Williams(eventually THOR)
    5. Mejia/Montero/Degrom
    Bull-Pen
    Parnell
    Black
    K.Gregg/Boggs/Baily
    Reid/German/Familia
    Edgin
    German
    Rice
    Torres

    Flores goes to AAA to play 1st full time and Lagares goes to AAA to play center full time. Depth and potential is a good thing to have around.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’d love to see Owings here. He isn’t a pure lead off hitter, because he doesn’t like to walk, but he does have speed. Gregorious’s offensive numbers don’t impress me at all. His OBP and OPS numbers are pretty low and he had zero steals in over 100 games last year.

  • Edward

    Less than 40 mlb players had 600+ abs last year.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Very true Benny. Reyes should have been looked at as a cornerstone player, just like Wright. If we had a SS who could lead off, this lineup would be so much easier to put together. Of course, a true slugger at 1B would help a lot. This team hasn’t come close to replacing Reyes or Delgado.

  • EzRider

    No i totally get that. 100% One could hope though. I’m not sold on Drew, even if he is an upgrade over Tejada. Franklin could move to second in the future and we keep the arms stockpiled. I’m a tad concerned about Wheeler’s shoulder and Delivery.

    Also with the vets on the staff if needed we could have trade bait for later in the year to hopefully acquire more talent.

    Do you think it is possible Montero makes the rotation out of spring, Mejia sticks and is healthy and a one up Wheeler for Franklin deal is feasible?

    I’m really just daydreaming here these days since i really have no idea what the Team plans to do from here on out.

  • Benny

    SS Reyes
    2B Murphy
    3B Wright
    LF Granderson
    C d’Arnaud
    1B Ike
    RF Young
    CF Lagares
    P

  • Joanie Yan

    Somebody on Metsblog posted a link to get here – nice to deal with Disqus again.
    I’m in favor of Drew because of the defensive upgrade. An infield of Tejada, Murphy and Duda is horrible. Signing Drew and keeping Ike at first is a big difference. Sign Drew for 2 yrs, keep Ike and trade Duda for anything. The payroll will still be around 90 mil and maybe they’ll surprise us and be competitive. If not they can start dumping players at the deadline and retool for 2015 when Harvey comes back.

  • Benny

    “Somebody on Metsblog posted a link to get here – nice to deal with Disqus again.”

    Hopefully most if not all follow suit…

  • KennyandtheMets

    They don’t want to pay both Ike and Drew. If Ike had been traded, they might have already signed Drew.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Me too. Switched over a week ago. Much better here.

  • Benny

    Which is just pathetic (if true)!

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’d rather see Murphy lower, to give him more RBI opportunities. Can’t see Ike starting either. Otherwise, I like it.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I know. Seriously pathetic.

  • Benny

    You’re right!

    SS Reyes
    RF Young
    3B Wright
    LF Granderson
    1B Flores
    2B Murphy
    C d’Arnaud
    CF Lagares
    P

  • BronxMets

    its gotta be quite a bit

  • Andrew Herbst

    I would agree to do that deal.

  • Tacohow

    Drew is perfect in one regard only: he plays SS. We need one.
    Tejada isn’t just about a bad year. It is about a bad attitude and work ethic we have been hearing about for years.

  • R04

    Post less.

  • BehindTheBag

    Yeah, but MDD would definitely be the kicker in a deal to get Jose Freakin’ Reyes. SMH.

  • KennyandtheMets

    That would be my line up, if we had Jose. Actually, if we signed Drew I would put him at the top and keep the same line up you just listed, that’s not too bad. Drew’s OBP is decent. I also think that Flores will need time in AAA, getting reps at 1B. We might have to live with a Duda/Satin platoon, until Wilmer is ready to play a serviceable 1B.

  • E1Guapo

    Too bad that wasn’t our approach with Kaz Matsui!! First time on MMO, It’s a refreshing change from MB.

  • Jimmy Broadway

    Brad Miller or Nick Franklin from Seattle. Would love to see if we could get Alexi Ramirez from Chicago.

  • metFAN660

    Come on, Taco, we heard about it for one year. Last year. He was a very smart and mature player at 19 and 20. Tejada would not be the first athlete to lose his way and find his way back.

  • E1Guapo

    Same production with less power is not the same production…especially on a team that’s HR-challenged

  • Run Support Group

    It was bad the year before because he got hurt

  • mynewdisqusname

    But aren’t the good posters being replaced with oblivious Facebook posters? “Yay mets! This blog is the bestest! Ike for Braun!”

  • Bail4Nails

    They can release Davis before the season, and only pay him $600,000. Left to right, this is the ideal infield: Wright, Drew, Murphy, and Flores (HRs don’t matter when you get 100+ RBIs). If you release Davis, you can sign Drew. You can live with Flores’ defense as long as his bat is in the lineup. Duda and Satin can be bench players, if you need someone to get on base.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’ve seen those names before. I’m going to read some about them.

  • Benny

    Dude said “maybe” like if he would have to think really hard and long about including MDD (LOL).

  • Tacohow

    That is not accurate. Terry Collins and the Mets were annoyed before the 2012 season when he did not report early to camp, then they felt his attitude was inappropriate, acting like he was entitled to start and didn’t have to earn it. He has a whole lot of attitude, a very low ceiling, and very little to get excited about. I can also point out the obvious, that the Mets drafted a SS in the first round despite Tejada being 22 at the time. Tejada is an average fielder with no speed or power.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I understand your point. Then why not just sign Drew now and if you can’t trade Ike just cut him later? I like the infield you mentioned, although it is pretty weak defensively on the right side. Flores needs reps at 1B. He should start the season in Vegas, playing 1B everyday.

  • IndianaMet

    I’ve joined too. Missed the conversations and debates. It’s good to see many regulars already here.

  • Destry

    I’ll take a 3.4 WAR SS as a stopgap anytime. Just remember that in 3 years David Wright will be 34. So our window is limited before we have an albatross contract on our hands.

  • Destry

    SO you criticize, but admittedly have no idea what you are talking about?

  • Destry

    Couldn’t agree more Benny. The majority of Mets fans are severely undervaluing Drew.

  • boraswannabe

    Fair point. I’m just more of the notion of building a sustainable winner in the same manner we’re building our pitching.

  • Bail4Nails

    One of yesterday’s threads, I asked about trading Wheeler, whose shoulder problems are a little alarming, for Brad Miller. Seattle is very high on Miller, for all the right reasons. He would be an incredible upgrade at SS/Leadoff. If SEA still needs a pitcher, why not offer Wheeler before “shoulder tightness” turns into shoulder surgery?

  • Bail4Nails

    Don’t you think right now a Brad Miller at SS/Leadoff, means more to the Mets than Upton would’ve meant last year? I understand them balking last year. Word was Wheeler had such a fluid natural delivery, that injury seemed highly unlikely. I know Wheeler’s a good pitcher. Can you live with trading him to an AL team, if it gives us a future star at SS? I know I can.

  • Bail4Nails

    You are right about Flores. I can live with Duda/Satin platoon until Flores is defensively ready (hopefully soon). About Drew, I wish the only reason they haven’t signed him yet, is that Sandy is going to attempt a trade with SEA or ARI first. But, like they say in Bad Santa, “Wish in one hand, $#T in the other. We’ll see which one fills up first.”

  • Destry

    I 100% agree with you, but I feel like the money is either going to Drew, or going to no one, and its not exactly like a 3rd round pick is a sure fire major leaguer. We haven’t even had a 2nd round pick be a major leaguer in 12 years.

  • wilponzi

    Shortstop was our least productive position last year(that says a lot). Tejada has no speed, no power, no contact, no glove, no nothing, other than the fact that he’s here and he’s cheap. Drew’s a player with a track record, and even if he’s hurt for part of the season, and play’s something like 120 games it’s still a major improvement and makes the Mets a much better team, 120 games of Drew and 40 of Tejada is leaps and bounds from Quintanilla/Tejada last year or Tejada in 2014, who’ll most likely hit near the Mendoza line.

    Plus, Drew can be had at 2 years, somewhere in the 20 million(s) range, the Mets should trade Ike and/or Duda to free payroll, and put Flores at 1st. It’s either that or Tejada in the 8 hole. Not perfect, but, we need to put the best lineup we can on the field. I hate hearing about the Mets not signing someone because they strikeout too much, or that they are injured too often. Not every player is perfect, and even if an acquisition is flawed the homegrown AAA players on our roster are much worse.

  • peter

    How about Drew is not that good and has missed approximately 70 games a season the past 3 years. One year deal fine, anything more no way. Free agent shortstop market will be very good next year, why reach for Drew now, Lowrie, Cabrera, Hanley (although he is probably resigned), Hardy, and Escobar will be free agents. The best thing to do is wait it out, the Mets will get the one they want and whoever it is will be their top target and scooped up quick with Harvey coming back. It is not smart to sign Drew for more than a year!

  • peter

    And I really do not believe Duda will be the everyday first baseman, if their is someone that they should sign it is Morales. I mean I think they should let Davis play and option Duda, he has an option. If they trade Ike it just makes more sense to add a middle of the order switch hitter who probably hits 280 with 20 to 25 dingers, he moves Grandyman to 5th, that is the route they should go. Let Rubin play short and bring in a very good back up that can play everyday in case he flops.

  • Super T

    So you’re prepared for the Mets to most likely give up their first round draft pick for a Lowrie or Cabrera next year? Yunel Escobar has a team option for 2015.

  • goorru

    Bleacher report

  • goorru

    No I don’t know exactly what players are available and who they are willing to take for those players. . I would someone like a Bautista or Encarnacion.

    Do you?

  • KennyandtheMets

    Agreed.

  • KennyandtheMets

    We shall see. Either way, I don’t want to see Tejada as our starting SS.

  • Peter

    Yes, they have to, unless there is a trade that goes down for a SS that is a long term answer. Escobar has an option but will Tampa bring him back? Regardless they are all better than Drew. They will be in great position for a playoff run in 15, that is the year to forfeit a pick.

  • Super T

    Uh no, they’re not that much better that it warrants giving up a first round draft pick vs only a third round draft pick for Drew.

  • MetsFAN660

    I don’t recall that…and if I did, I wouldn’t care since he hit .289 in 400+ ABs in 2012.

  • EzRider

    True enough. I like Harvey’s drop and drive motion which looked nice, easy and fluid but too much torque from the slider killed him.
    Trading Montero for, hopefully, a fixture at SS for the future? I’d seriously consider it. We do some have other pitchers on the horizon (AAA) that maybe are not Montero’s level but could be a nice bridge till Syndergard is ready at the tail end of the year.
    Also, i may be crazy but i didn’t really want Upton last year. I wanted the Mets to really try for Parra and sign Johnny Gomes.

  • Destry

    Everyone is available. So you would rather have Bautista and lose a Thor or Wheeler than just sign Granderson for an unknown 2nd Rd pick? That’s basically what it would cost.

  • Destry

    Duda was worth 6.5 offensive WAR in 350 PA’s with a 120 +RC
    Morales was 6.4 650 PA’s 116 +wRC
    So………..No, and Davis was the worst player in the league.

  • Destry

    Does no one remember the terrible play at the plate where he broke his ankle & leg? That’s the reason he missed time. It cost him the 2nd half of 2011 & 1st half of 2012. Why didn’t you factor in 2010 or 2009?

  • skiplockweird

    If sandy can get it done for 2 years 18mm, I am good with it. If someone was going to offer him big money they would have done it. Shortstop is important, but our two championships came with Buddy Harrelson, and Rafael santana at short. Tejada has 2 previous years with a .280 BA. I think he can hold the gap. Let’s spend the money elsewhere. When Sandy took over, he said the objective was to be in a financial situation to be in the free agent market every year.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    That just shows how flawed that WAR SABR stats are…anyone whom watched these 2 play could see Morales was more valuable to the team than Duda was….

    Morales actually carried that team for a stretch

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    This situation reminds me so much of the Bourn ordeal…except some fans arent as desperate for the team to sign anyone w/a pulse as they were last year

  • Destry

    He can’t play defense Dude. He can’t play in the NL. He is of no value to us.

  • Andrew Herbst

    Maybe we can get Drew for a 1 year deal.

  • R04

    Post less.

  • Justin Anthony

    Doubt it… If the Mets and the Red Sox both offered him a 1 year deal, where do you think he’s gonna sign? I’ll give you a hint. Not with us

  • Not4

    Be careful what you wish for – soon you’ll be inundated with whining, bitching and comments that demonstrate a “fantasy baseball” understanding of the game – absolute drivel.

  • Agee’s Catch

    Oh great. A “why we’re not signing Stephen Drew” thread

  • Andrew Herbst

    Unfortunately you are right. He would never sign with us over the Bosox.

  • Agee’s Catch

    Doesn’t this reek of Jason Bay? Red Sox were concerned over Bay’s knees and shoulders and limited their offer to Bay. Now we’re hearing that the Red Sox don’t want to commit long term and there are concerns over Drew’s health. I’d stay away.

  • Agee’s Catch

    Duda had an oWAR of 1.3. what are you reading?

  • Agee’s Catch

    Look around my friend, look around. All that’s missing is an “Old Backstop” sighting.

  • roger roger

    Who says the Red Sox have offered him anything?

  • roger roger

    lol!

  • Agee’s Catch

    He has a point. Why lock someone up long term when next years FA crop has talent?

  • Agee’s Catch

    Strat-o-matic baby!

  • RyanF55

    It’s to the point now that if the Mets don’t sign him, its seen as a failure because the story keeps getting beaten to death. Only averaged 95 games a year the past 3 years, hasn’t exactly blown away the league but is a nice, solid MLB player. This has to be a deal that works in the Mets favor. If he is going to seek that Boras-esque deal, then I’d let him walk. The Mets are in a multi-year rebuilding effort and next year has a few options, but nothing incredible. If he can be had on a one year or MAX two year deal with incentives, for the right price, then I’d be on-board.

  • RyanF55

    Here are the projected 2015 FA Shortstops….is it worth holding off a year and signing someone in 2015? A few names on this list are attractive: Cabrera, Escobar, Hardy, Ramirez are all upgrades. Rollins, Aviles, Jeter and Punto are all near, at or above 40 years. Just food for thought.

    Mike Aviles (34) – club option
    Asdrubal Cabrera (29)
    Yunel Escobar (32) – $5MM club option
    Rafael Furcal (37)
    J.J. Hardy (32)
    Derek Jeter (41)
    Jed Lowrie (31)
    Hiroyuki Nakajima (32) – $5.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
    Nick Punto (37) – club/vesting option
    Hanley Ramirez (31)
    Jimmy Rollins (36) – vesting/club/player option

  • MetsFAN660

    This is a surprise? The guy is always getting hurt. Stay away!

  • WillisReid

    He’d be an upgrade no doubt, but with him hereTejada would still get a lot of playing time because he hits lefties well and you know Drew is going to miss time. Maybe they can settle for 2 and an option year, but this is a tough call for team with a salary cap.

  • Met Maniac

    LOL While I’m sick and tired of Drew and Ike, it could be worse. This could be Metsblog and we’d be getting 25 updates a week instead of 5.

  • Met Maniac

    This puts a whole new spin on everything if Martino didn’t pull this out of his ass. If there’s any hint of a medical problem, no way we should sign him.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Joe D.
    It’s because MMO is an independent forum and that Mets Blog can never be considered impartial due to it being part of the Sterling Equities family and instead looking after it’s own self interests which will only allow criticism to go so far.
    That is the way of all house organs, they are just part of the public relations and marketing divisions and doing their job of spinning things. Unfortunately, we’ve seen the demise of Gary, Keith and Ron on SNY broadcasts with their segments on why the Mets should not go after high prices free agents, that Jose Reyes “left” the Mets and that Bourn rejected the Mets offer (without mention that it was a tentative offer based on an upcoming decision by an arbitrator regarding that CBA ruling).

  • skyking26

    $10-$12M even for 1 year is too much for a ss that could miss time. Granted you still have Tejada and Drew is an upgrade over Tejada but almost anybody is an upgrade over Tejada.

  • skyking26

    The only 6.5 Duda is 6.5 on the richter scale when he trips over his own two feet.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Goorra,
    I am very hesitant to talk about possible trades because there are so many things that we are not aware of and more specifically, we are fans and not on the inside and not privy to the inside strategies that are also being considered.
    It is much easier to vet on a trade once it is made with the vast amount of information available to us to formulate a more valid opinion. For we then know of the players involved and can look into with greater detail their backgrounds, strengths, weaknesses and changes in their performances based on the scouting evaluations and, of course, what the team itself needs and whether or not they fill that void or if that was the primary hole to go after in lieu of other strengths and weaknesses.

  • Met Maniac

    6.5 my asterisk. The guys sucks, they both do, Doo-Duh and Strike Vegas.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I just have a feeling Red Sox would offer Drew at least a 1 year deal.

  • WillisReid

    I won’t be surprised either way.

  • roger roger

    Can you imagine Jeter signing with the Mets? Lol

  • JustSomeInternetGuyYouDontKnow

    Wouldn’t offer him jack anyway. So much press wasted on this guy. So many other options if Sandy knew how to trade for major league talent instead of prospects. Nick Franklin…

  • Bail4Nails

    I like Nick Franklin. I would aim high first and try for Miller. Then maybe Owings. But I’d root for any of those 3 guys. The tough question is, who do you go for? And, who do you trade to get him? This is where the Sabermetrics guys come in handy.

  • vigouge

    Can we please stop talking about Drew’s durability as it’s actually been bad. He’s had one major injury in his career, a freakish fractured ankle caused by a cleat getting caught during a slide. Outside of that, two hamstrings pulled a half decade apart and getting hit in the head in spring training he’s been very healthy.

  • skyking26

    Duda and Davis can’t play defense either though Morales can be tolerable at 1b being a productive bat in the middle of the lineup. Morales would be a safer signing than Drew.

  • DrDooby

    If there´s a medical issue obviously it has to factor in the price.

    If Drew weren´t attached to draft pick compensation, pretty sure he´d have signed a 3-year, 36 to 39 million $ deal with someone at the very least by now. With the draft pick compensation, teams are weighing the value of a nice complementary but certainly not impact player vs. losing an early pick, in most cases a 1st rounder.

    Now, if there are injury concerns as well, that further hurts his value. Which actually makes the Mets an even more likely landing spot with only a 3rd round pick being the compensation, besides the most likely spot, i.e. the Red Sox on a 1-year-deal who wouldn´t lose a pick but just not gain an extra supplemental pick instead.

    Maybe he can be had at a lower base salary with incentives, maybe with a 2nd year vesting option or also with incentives built in.

    As for missing games, he had the one major injury in 2011, that caused him to miss the 2nd half of that season and the 1st half of the next season but has been reasonably healthy since, though he missed a bit of time in 2013 as well. Say, Matt Harvey throws 200 innings in 2015 after missing 2014, would you be scared of signing him to an extension because he has “only” averaged 125 IP per year over the past 3 years ?

  • Raww

    I’d rather a healthy, high-ceiling kid who will be under team control for several years. I’d be happiest with Owings.

  • peter

    I am not sure you watch baseball,,
    Posted today at 1140 on Metsblogs. Sound familiar? Welllll yes it does, it sounds like my post, andddd tellllll him what he has won george,

    The Mets do not want to lock in to free-agent SS Stephen Drew beyond a one-year deal, I’m hearing from people close to the team, mostly because Asdrubal Cabrera, Yunel Escobar, Jed Lowrie and Hanley Ramirez, among others, are likely to be free agents next winter.

  • peter

    Davis can play very good defense, his offensive struggles made him more vulnerable defensively, that is mental and can be fixed with confidence and success at the plate, he can play D.

  • peter

    Morales would be very valuable to the line up. Especially on a 1 or 2 year deal, screw Drew.

  • MiqueMetsFan

    I definitely agree. In fact this solidifies my opinion on the matter. The Mets should just go with Tejada and call it a day. All things considered your not getting a tremendous upgrade with Drew. So why spend more than you need to on a player that is bound to miss a lot of time due to injury. They should worry about other needs like getting a #5 starting pitcher and more pitching depth so that they don’t need to rush Syndergard and others.

  • Wrightstuf

    I would like to sign Drew, or trade for Miller or Franklin from SEA or Owings from ARI. But if any of these options don’t happen, does anyone think we could make a bid for Aledmys Diaz from Cuba? I have heard good things about him and he will be available to sign in February. Thoughts? Also thank you for using Disqus and bringing it back, love this site as well. Great articles guys.

  • Eyeball

    Not that I want Drew, but if you take away roughly a calendar year lost from that freakish ankle injury, he played in 90% of his team’s games before 2013.

    He is no Pedro Feliciano, but has mostly been on the field.

  • RyanF55

    I more or less agree….Metsblog stated its a more promising SS FA class next year and looking at this list, I don’t see many options what so ever.

  • roger roger

    I would have to think so, no?? Question is – will he confirm as much at season’s start, and suffer through all the distracting farewell stuff? Or will he wait until the end…my guess is the latter. After the Mariano long goodbye, can you imagine how annoying it will be to have a season-long Jeter farewell?

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Time to turn the page & trade for a young SS. This is just a waste of time.

  • Destry

    fangraphs offensive value

  • Agee’s Catch

    It’s different than the values used by baseball reference.
    BTW, Steamer sees Ike having a better 2014 than Lucas.

  • Destry

    Drew and Duda would provide way more value overall to the team than Morales and Tejaada would. Its not even close.

  • Destry

    Sure, if you only think about offense, but Duda would have the same numbers as Morales would with the 700 PAs that Morales got last year, at DH, no less.

  • Destry

    Well, it hasn’t been fixed since 2010. What would make you think it will magically be fixed this season.

  • Destry

    Yeah, and that’s ridiculous. They also have him playing LF, and they still have Baxter on the team, so I wouldn’t look that much into it. What did they have projected for Davis last season? He ended up -0.2

  • Destry

    Oh, another Ike worshiper who can’t evaluate baseball players without letting their emotions take over. How sweet.

  • Destry

    He has played 50 games in the field in the last 4 years. What would make you think he can all of sudden play 150 with passable defense? Magic? Good fortune? I would love to hear this.

  • Destry

    Most scouts say he will need to move to 2B or 3B at the major league level as his defense at SS is subpar. He is also more of an injury risk than Drew, as he already has planter fasciitis in both feet.

  • Destry

    Do you really think we are gonna sign Hanley Ramirez? Then cross him off the list. Escobar has a $5mil club for next year. You think the Rays will pick that up? Cross him off your list. Asdrubal sucks. Maybe as a 2B, he is passable, but he hasn’t been good in a few years. Lowrie 3.6 WAR, Drew 3.4

  • Ian Cohen

    I hope we get him. I can’t think of much worse than having to look at Tejada at shortstop this coming season.

  • Charley’s Twin

    why does thinking Duda sucks make you an Ike “worshipper”? Duda sucks, and Ike isn’t very good either.

  • Agee’s Catch

    In November, I didn’t want to wait that long. Now that it is January, it’s seems like a good idea, especially now that Peralta is off the board and Drew is an unsavory option. I’d also take a second look at Erisbel Arruebarruena. It sounds like his glove will play, but the bat is a little shaky. It would be a small improvement over Tejada, though I’m slightly hedging my bets.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Martino is a known Wilpon shill. Just saying.

  • Destry

    With our dynamite young arms that are currently on the staff, and the ones that will be coming up this year(Montero, Thor), and possibly mid 2015(Matz, maybe Fulmer) we need a SS that can play + defense. Any bat we get is going to have decreased numbers calling Citi Field home, so we need to make sure whoever we get for SS can at least provide positive value from the defensive side. Drew is one of a few SS in the league that is above average for the position offensively & defensively. I know everyone only looks at offensive stats, and only cares about HRs, but you spend about 10-12 minutes/game in the batters box, and & 90-100 minutes/game playing defense.

  • Destry

    The only thing that would be worse is having to watch Tejada throw the ball to Ike Davis at 1B. If those two are starting, we have no chance of contending in 2014. They combined for -0.5 WAR last season. Worst in the league by a wide wide margin.

  • Destry

    Yes on Drew, Maybe on Miller, Franklin is gonna be well below average defensively at SS, as will Owings. Diaz would be an awesome get, although, I don’t think he will be ready until 2015. He will most likely need at least 1/2 season in AA/AAA, and maybe be called up in June/July or September when rosters expand.

  • Super T

    Sounded pretty ridiculous when I heard it this morning and this apparently proves it. Wish the Mets would quit jerking around and offer him a 2 yr deal already.
    They stated “SS was their biggest need at the start of the off season”.
    They said earlier “how ridiculous the free agent costs were”, and now they can get Drew below his market value if they offer more than a 1 year deal.
    Unlike next year’s FA shortstops, Drew will only cost a 3rd round draft pick.
    Unlike trading for a SS, the Mets don’t have to give up any prospects to sign Drew.
    The Mets don’t have any near ready ML shortstops.

  • Destry

    From everything I’ve read about Arruebarruena, he is gonna have some serious trouble hitting the big leagues. Dynamite defensively though. Ceasar Izturis comp or maybe Brendan Ryan at best.

  • Destry

    Thank you. Its funny to me that people say Drew is injury prone, and then say we should sign Morales. Drew missed the 2nd half of 2011 & 1st half of 2012 with broken leg/ankle & surgery, and Morales missed 2/3 of 2010 and all 2011 with practically the same injury. Oh yeah, and Morales play can’t in the field anymore, while Drew is a standout defensive SS.

  • Destry

    Yep

  • Destry

    Why trade prospects when we can sign a better SS for longshot 3rd pick? Are you OK with losing Montero?

  • Destry

    SO you wouldn’t give Tulowitzki 10-12mil?

  • Destry

    Yeah, he’s always breaking his ankle sliding into home

  • Destry

    Drew is younger than everyone on the list except for Assdribble, who sucks. We ain’t getting Hanley, and Drew is better than everyone else on the list.

  • I think Martino has been shilling and leaking stuff for the Mets the last two years.

    I was disappointed when they chose him to sub for Kevin Burkhardt during Mets broadcasts when KB left to do NFL games.

    I never trusted him and he always gave me bad vibes.

  • Destry

    Epic fail if we don’t sign Drew. He fell in our lap, and Sandy f’d up. If he doesn’t move Ike and sign Drew, his tenure will be a disaster to this point.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Yeah. I didn’t really believe the report about issues with Drew’s medicals. There were no specifics in what I read.

  • Destry

    I agree with you 100%

  • KennyandtheMets

    Anyone who ignores the defensive skills of a SS, doesn’t truly understand the game. My problem with Drew is his durability. 95 games per season isn’t going to cut it for us.

  • Destry

    Duda sucks in LF. He doesn’t suck at the plate, or overall as a 1B

  • Destry

    If you take out the freak injury at the plate, similar to Morales, he has played 90% of his teams games in his career.

  • BehindTheBag

    2 years, $24M, take it or leave it. We have the budget without dumping Davis, unless the Wilpons have been lying to us.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    There were no issues this is the Mets attempt to devalue Drew… they did this same thing to guys like Vlad Guerrero.

    The Redsox are still interested in Drew thats all you need to know about his health. They are thorough to a fault when it comes to not signing players with any injury. They were careful w/Jason Bay wanted him to sign an opt out-clause or have surgery before they signed him…They also pulled the deal from Napoli….

    Maybe they are trying to diminish his value so much they get him for cheap like the Redsox did with Napoli last year after pulling their offer after a supposed hip issue or the Pirates with Liriano when the arm injury thing came up.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Ok. I hope you are right.

  • Schnitzer’s Marble Rye

    I agree, and like I’ve mentioned already here — signing Drew would be a plus because as mediocre as Tejada might be, he actually OPS-es higher than both Drew and Murphy vs. lefties. Adding Drew gives the Mets more depth at both middle infield positions — and plays to the strengths of Drew, Murphy, and Tejada.

    Btw good to be here — I’m a former Metsblog commenter..recently changed my username from my real name to what you see now so people prob don’t recognize me. Loving MMO and the recent influx of new people arriving here.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I really hope we get him and that he stays healthy.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Id rather we sign 23yr old Cuban SS Aledmys Diaz but…..

    The Drew injury prone thing is overblown like many have said he was injured once bad after a slide(I think). And that injury kkept him out the whole 2nd half of 2011 and carryed over to the whole 1st half of 2012.

    That isnt injury prone just one bad injury.

  • Agee’s Catch

    That would be fair. I wouldn’t go longer.
    I still recall the Red Sox hedging their bets on Jason Bay, due to medical issues. They only wanted to go three years on Bay. We went four years so he would come here.
    Sorry, I don’t see a Vlad Guererro connection here.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Would you REALLY be surprised if they are lying?

  • Destry

    I might not be, but I think its by far and away the best way to improve our team.

  • Bail4Nails

    Why only maybe on Miller? I get that Drew costs money while Miller costs prospects. I’m not arguing, I’m just curious who is actually the better of the two.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’ve read a bit on Diaz. I’m not sure how good he is. I’m sure he is better than Tejada, which isn’t saying much. Not sure he is better than Drew. What is your opinion on trading for Chris Owings?

  • KennyandtheMets

    It is definitely a major upgrade. In some ways, I’d rather trade for a young SS. However, I’d be happy if we signed Drew.

  • metFAN660

    No physical issues…except sucking.

  • Destry

    I like Drew’s defense better than Miller, and we will have to give up at least Montero.

  • Run Support Group

    I’m starting to think the asking prices for SS’s were too high. I think ARI only wanted to give away Gregrious for Montero and maybe Sandy said no. SEA values Brad Miller VERY highly so I wouldn’t be surprised if they asked for Syndergaard/Wheeler

  • Run Support Group

    Ok. Would you like to use some stats as to why he sucks?

  • Run Support Group

    Seems fair. I’d start at 20 million though. See if he’d take that offer

  • Destry

    Trust me Kenny I did too originally, but at the time, I thought Drew wanted 4/48, and I didn’t realize how much people are valuing prospects. We would actually be buying high on a unproven SS vs getting Drew at a bargain considering the market. Peralta 4/53 Reyes 4/82 etc

  • Connor O’Brien

    He just doesn’t want it enough 😉

  • BehindTheBag

    Not in the slightest.

  • Connor O’Brien

    It’s going to be another month and a half before he signs. The Mets and Red Sox are in no hurry to do this.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    Look up Rosell Herrera from the Rockies farm. Kid could be a stud who moves quickly through the system.

  • Bail4Nails

    I saw Miller’s great offensive numbers, and I didn’t get everyone’s hesitation. I guess it makes sense to have Drew’s better defense up the middle. You have to admit, Miller’s production at leadoff is tempting. I don’t know if it’s Montero-tempting, but still.

  • Super T

    I wouldn’t be surprised if a 3rd team (Astros, Mariners, Twins) comes out of nowhere and gives him a 3 year deal.

  • Run Support Group

    He’s still far away and I think Colorado would like ot move him to 2B, as they really don’t have one right now.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    LeMahieu?

  • Run Support Group

    Yeah, my Bday’s on Feb.7th and I could see him getting signed around then. Steven Drew would be a nice birthday gift.

  • Run Support Group

    He still hasn’t played more than 110 games in a season and he doesn’t hit for any power, which is surprising as he plays at Coors. His OBP also isn’t that great at .311. I dunno, I just think Sandy’d like to trade someone closer to the majors.

  • Run Support Group

    Eh, the Astros have pretty good middle IF depth. They’re also in a rebuild mode.The Twins are probably gonna spend their remaining money on a pitcher (Garza, Jimenez) and feel fine with Florimon at SS. The Mariners are a possibility, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they spend the rest of their money on Tanaka. They also have Brad miller at SS.

  • Bail4Nails

    I’ve asked this question here before, but is Wheeler for Miller such a bad deal, if Wheeler’s shoulder is suspect?

  • KennyandtheMets

    I don’t think Gregorius is good enough to give up Montero. Owings, on the other hand, looks really good to me.

  • Run Support Group

    I really think Wheeler’s shoulder thing is a little overblown. There were no reports there were any serious problems with it.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    If he’s gonna trade for someone close to the majors or already in the majors, his best option is Andrus.

  • Super T

    Recall Bourn last year with no apparent suitors either and the Indians who already had 3 outfielders (Swisher, Brantley, Stubbs) signed him.

  • Run Support Group

    The thing that scares me a bit about Gregrorious is that he didn’t hit outside of April and May

  • Run Support Group

    I don’t think the Wilpons (Not Sandy) are gonna take on a contract like that. I also think it would take Niese+Montero, and we can’t afford to deal both IMO.

  • Run Support Group

    It’s a bit different for the Astros. The Indians were in a win now mode. The Astros want to see what Jonathon Villar can do playing everyday. If he doesn’t produce, they can sign one of the SS’s next year.

  • Ben

    If you want to say Drew is injury prone, fine. But, let’s not forget Tejada has missed time the last two years with leg injuries himself, and has never played more than 114 games in a season. Drew provides much needed depth up the middle by allowing Tejada to shift to a utility INF that will get his fair share so starts against tough lefties. The Mets would be a much more complete team with Drew. No-brainer on a 2 yr deal.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Hes lucky if he csn have a 250 average 10 hr and a 320 obp with the mets. Thats pretty bad concedering hes gonna get at leadt 10 mill a year

  • Run Support Group

    Drew isn’t really even injury prone. If you take away his freak ankle injury, he’s played most of the games.

  • KennyandtheMets

    You make a good point. If his price really drops to 2 years for 10-12 mil per, it is much less of a risk. Honestly though, the Cardinals aren’t stupid. Peralta got 4 years because he has been extremely durable. Before his 50 game suspension last year, he played over 150 games for 7 years straight.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’m really not impressed with his numbers.

  • Ben

    I agree, but can see where someone would think he is by looking at the back of his card. Just sayin, Tejada is no lock to start 150 anyway.

  • Run Support Group

    And that..sucks? You realize that’s about average production for a SS now right? he can also have a semi platoon with Tejada who will face tough lefties, which will help Drew’s average. And on top of that, he will also play great defense. He also hit 7 of his 13 Hr’s on the road. He’ll hit like 12-15 HR’s here.

  • Run Support Group

    Neither am I. He seems like a lefty Tejada, albeit younger and a slightly better hitter and a better fielder. He wouldn’t be a huge upgrade.

  • Super T

    Hope you’re correct. SS is the Mets biggest need Tejeda (.519 ops) Quintanilla (.589 ops), and Tovar (.494 ops).

    Don’t understand how some fans keep bashing or saying they don’t want Drew (.777 ops) for less than market value.

  • ReneNYM1

    My is Feb 9 mine or yours is fine with me.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Owings is my first choice, though I have read that his D is suspect.

  • Bail4Nails

    What about that Fangraphs article that was on MMO 3 days ago? It predicted Wheeler would have an ERA around 4, and more importantly that he would be limited to 180 innings, saying basically that he should not have had shoulder tightness from his limit last year. Also, he has to get his walk rate down 25%. I am horrible with stats, so I don’t know how to judge that one report. But that possibility of shoulder weakness scares me ever since Harvey went down.

  • Run Support Group

    Harvey was elbow, not shoulder. And Wheeler’s motion isn’t as violent as Matt;s. Nor does he throw a 92 MPH SLIDER! that puts tremendous strain on the arm. Zach also pitched much better after his first 4 or 5 starts, and he walked less and less people.

  • Run Support Group

    Here’s to hoping Drew gets signed on either of our birthdays!

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Yea but for 10-12 million a year????

  • Bail4Nails

    Screw it, sign Drew. I just hope Cecchini is worth it in 2 years.

  • Run Support Group

    He rejected a qualifying offer of 14 mil. So yeah, that seems about fair at the discounted price

  • ReneNYM1

    That is the realproblem is that we don’t have any SS prospects ready to go in the near future so getting Drew for two or three at 10 per might be a very smart move.his defense will helpout our young staff.

  • Raww

    That would be discouraging. I’m surprised to hear that the majority opinion rates his D as subpar, as the items I’ve read have said he’s adequate at SS, and he won a couple defensive awards in the Diamondbacks organization. I hadn’t heard about the plantar fasciitis. My own experience with pf showed complete relief after a few acupuncture treatments, but unlike Albert Pujols, I’m no professional athlete. How about one of the Mariners’ youngsters?

  • vigouge

    While there are good options on the list the problem I don’t see one that won’t have at least as many negatives as Drew. Hanley is going to go for big money, Rollins is on the downside of his career, Lowrie will be getting at least as much money as Drew, and Hardy will be getting more. If Drew’s available for 10-12m for 2-3 years I would have a hard time passing that up.

  • vigouge

    Just a quick note, that 6.5 are runs above average. With replacement fielders expected to be ~11 runs below average offensively Duda was about 18 runs above replacement on offense which is 1.8 fWAR on offense. Decent enough for someone who played 60% of the time.

  • JustSomeInternetGuyYouDontKnow

    What better SS can they sign? Is someone better than Drew available?
    Montero for Franklin? Yes. Franklin put up similar numbers to Drew but in a ballpark closer to Citi, not a bandbox and he isn’t a high injury risk.

  • Destry

    Oh I agree with ya. No doubt. I just feel like his production level will drop hitting at Citi, and then we would be left with a below average defensive SS, with average offensive numbers. After they moved the walls in a Safeco it was the 2nd homer friendliest park in 2013

  • Destry

    I love Owings bat, but I think we have Wright locked in at 3B for a while, and we currently have Murphy under team control for 2014 & 2015 at 2B, as well as EY2

  • Destry

    Yeah, I think he had less than 1/2 of the ABs that Morales had last season. Morales isn’t very good against RHP. In fact, they would make a really good platoon tandem, but Morales is looking for starter level money when in face he is more effective as part time DH. That’s why he has no market.

  • Destry

    Safeco is now much friendlier to LH hitters than Boston is after they moved the fences in. Boston is a great place for RH to hit, but its not great for LH. I think you are also not considering how much better Drew is defensively than Miller, much less Franklin, who is a 2B, and we get to keep Montero.

  • TexasGusCC

    Trading for Owings will require losing a very valuable player, like Montero. Saving the payroll will cost you Montero and is Owings really better than Drew anyway?

  • Peter

    Who really cares? If he was that important and that good then why has Boston or no other team signed him yet? Unless it’s one year it’s not a smart move.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’m not concerned about the payroll. Drew is a very good player.
    He would be a major upgrade at SS. My concern is about his durability. Also, Owings has the speed to bat lead off. I want a SS who can lead off so that EYjr doesn’t have to start in the OF over Lagares. I want Lagares out there every day. I realize how good Montero could be, but we have depth at young pitching in the organization. We have nothing at SS that is anywhere near the majors.

  • Wrightstuf

    Sorry for the late response. But if that is the case it would still be nice, considering our best 3 ss prospects seem at least 3 years away from a big league promotion.

  • Destry

    I’m all for signing Almedys Diaz, but I feel like there will be a lot of teams that will be after his services as well, which means we will have to overpay for Diaz, and Drew could be had at a bargain considering the current market.