Sandy Keeps ‘Em Laughing At BBWAA Dinner

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The New York chapter of the Baseball Writers Association gathered in Manhattan tonight for their Annual Awards Dinner.

The 2013 MLB award winners all received their trophies for MVP, Cy Young, Rookie of the Year and Manager of the Year, and there were also the very popular New York chapter awards.

National Baseball Awards

Miguel Cabrera – AL MVP
Andrew McCutchen – NL MVP
Max Scherzer – AL Cy Young
Clayton Kershaw – NL Cy Young
Wil Myers – AL Rookie of the Year
Jose Fernandez – NL Rookie of the Year
Terry Francona – AL Manager of the year
Clint Hurdle – NL Manager of the Year

New York Chapter Awards

Mariano Rivera – Toast of the Town
Andy Pettitte – Toast of the Town
Hank Aaron – Willie, Mickey and the Duke Award
Al Downing – Willie, Mickey and the Duke Award
Tim McCarver – Long and Meritorious Service
Dillon Gee – Joan Payson Humanitarian Award
Bobby Parnell – Joan Payson Humanitarian Award
David Ortiz – Postseason MVP
David Robertson – Good Guy Award

Mets GM Sandy Alderson got a few laughs when he introduced Max Scherzer saying that the Yankees signed Masahiro Tanaka for $155 million and that the Mets countered by signing a Japanese pitcher who will get paid “month to month.” He then added that Tanaka was Japanese for “Scherzer is about to hit the freaking jackpot.” Scherzer is a free agent after the 2014 season.

What a funny guy…

Congratulations to Bobby Parnell and Dillon Gee on receiving the Joan Payson Award!

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  • Derpy

    Uh, isn’t it against the rules to talk about players like this?

  • ReneNYM1

    Not when their on the Yankees,LOL

  • Hotstreak
  • Justin Anthony

    The wrong David won the “good guy” award. Maybe next time they’ll get it Wright

  • sperry

    The joke about the Mets having no money to spend was funny the first time. Now it’s just pathetic and makes us sound like a damn laughing stock (which we are, but there’s no reason for our own GM to keep saying it).

  • Mike

    I’m sure Dicek loved that line jeez lol

  • beers22

    In his defense he balanced it out this time by also saying that the Yankee highlight montage to woo Tanaka didn’t include any of last year’s “subway series”. I thought the “loose translation” of Tanaka’s name was actually pretty funny though.

  • Hotstreak

    “Whose on first”. Sandy do you know?

    No idon’tknow is playing SS.

  • Ted

    The fact that we are pathetic , and a joke is not funny Sandy , you idiot. The fact you still the gm is the true joke!

  • TexasGusCC

    At first reaction, I am sick and tired of Alderson’s standup routine. However, after thinking about it, knowing he hates those kind of deals and also mentioning the subway series, makes me think he was chastising the Yankees for taking such a gamble and, in essence, patting himself on the back for getting a player while committing so little.

    Obviously, he has no regard for the difference in abilities, but Alderson never has any regard for players.

  • skyking26

    Alderson doesn’t have it that easy when you have ownership that doesn’t know how to run an organization. Ownership controls everything. Sandy is just a puppet. Alderson is very creative at getting his point over by making light of the times. Alderson is a professional and funny guy. You need to lighten up and troll something else.

  • Joey D.

    When the Mets were first formed and were plain awful, they were lovable at the same time and so when Casey made jokes we laughed with him because we were all in it together. We were all trying our best even though we were mostly all falling on our faces.

    It’s not so funny now. This organization is not trying it’s best when it comes to baseball — it is trying to simply pay off it’s massive debts so Sterling Mets can retain ownership and the team be damned.

    That our GM’s levity is focused on the way little money is spent on the team doesn’t bother me except that when he speaks about it seriously, it is in terms of how the lack of spending is being done for the good of the team, that successful payroll management shapes the team. I’d rather hebe more honest when speaking in serious terms as he is when entertaining a crowd.

  • jason bay

    The Mets spent a lot of money over the last two and a half decades. The most in the National League and all they have to show for it is 3 post seasons.

    The problem was they didn’t spend any where near enough in the draft or internationally and most of what they did spend it on busted or were the kinds of one dimensional guys who you can pick up on waivers or non tenders.

    Niese, Gee, Parnell and Murphy are good useful players but not All Star candidates and other than that there is Matt Harvey that we got for going 70-92 when we spent 145 M.

    It’s not the spending, it’s the talent that’s the problem. Two years ago we might have signed Kubel and Willingham and last year it could have been Bourn and Ross.

    Where was that going to get us? Trying to fix every problem by spending big in free agency is what has caused the problems we face.

    The Red Sox have 7 top 100 prospects drafting well after us and that’s after graduating guys like Lester, Bucholtz, Pedroia, Papplebon, Ellsbury, Lowrie.
    Reddick, Masterson and Iglesis.

    The Red Sox are an example of a team that “does both.”

    We’re an example of a team that just spends.

  • HawkZon

    God, I can’t stand Alderson.
    He shouldn’t be making jokes about us, no matter how true they are.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    This guy is a D–K!

    ~Daisuke Matsuzaka

  • Nolrog

    I agree. The GM shouldn’t be making those kinds of jokes.

  • Adam

    THIS

    (apparently I missed the part where that became passé on this site, so I’m still gonna do it)

  • Adam

    It’s not a great precedent. Players like Glavine and Thomas, who spent most of their careers with one team, are becoming increasingly rare. Maddux was an obvious Brave; if they sent him in without a logo, how many future inductees would also be logo-less if they apply the same standards?

    When I first saw this I wondered about the implications for Piazza, but that’s a good point about Beltran as well.

  • NewYorkMammoths
  • Anthony

    The real joke is Sandy’s roster

  • Randolph Scott

    Whoa, what’s with all the down votes if you say anything bad about SA joking about the state of the Mets?? SA and Jeffy got secret accounts, or are MC butt buddies up early ??

    Gas money, box of choclates, “what outfield” ….. damn near anything he says pisses me off to no end, guy thinks he’s funny but he’s a turd in the punchbowl, just plain offensive to this life long Mets fan, IMO.

  • Rocky Thompson

    The joke is taken out of context. Sandy was commenting on how the Yankees (who spent $500 millions this off season) and the Mets off season plans have finally converged. They both signed Japanese pitchers this week. Thought the joke was more at the expense of the Yankees than at the Mets.
    While I do not have a problem with the joke, Alderson should be more careful regarding his joking – i.e. “What outfield” and then only acquiring Cowgill.

  • Joanie Yan

    I won’t be laughing when the Yankees sign Drew and we have to watch Tejada at SS.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    You cant criticize Sandy or youll be downvoted he has minions who hide in the shadows..

    Yet none of them that downvote you can reply to your message disputing what you have said.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I think the Upvote killed the —-> “THIS”

    LOL

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I agree with you when you say we need to do both(spend to fill holes and develop prospects and spend there as well) but signing a Willingham, Kubel etc wouldnt have interfered.

    Their contracts werent big deals that were burdensome…And we had no OF prospects anywhere in the system.

    Those signings would have helped the major league club and at the very least couldve been trade chips for more prospects if we were out of contention mid season. This is something that teams like the A’s have mastered. Stock their OF, P etc and trade the excess to needy clubs.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Alderson is so unlikeable its not even funny

    Add on the fact that he sucks as a GM(9straight losing seasons as a GM) and this guy shouldnt have any jokes.

    His jokes are always centered around money and other teams spending too much.

    I HATE THIS GUY

  • LIKayLGM

    I think his comments were pretty funny, and I like his sense of humor, maybe because I understand what he says?

    I also realize that he is at a black–tie event for MLB, not a NY Mets press conference.

    For the love of God, when are the faithful going to realize that there is more to the business of baseball then just the confines of Citifield and the NY Mets organization. Should he have passed up the invite because there are holes on the team
    and sat home on a Saturday and tried to repent…..my God people really
    need to look outside the box just a little bit.

  • METS62FAN

    YOU WOULD THINK BY NOW SANDY WOULD HAVE LEARNED THAT NY METS’ FANS HAVE LOST THEIR SENSE OF HUMOR HAVING IT TOTALLY OVERSHADOWED BY A WILPONesque SENSE OF DOOM. FOR NOTHING ELSE, SANDY’S PREDECESSORS DID NOT SEEM TO EVER WARRANT NATIONAL BASEBALL CREDENTIALS GETTING ZERO OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK BEFORE A NATIONAL REPRESENTATION OF BBWA;

    NOW, IF HE REALLY WANTED TO LEAVE THEM ROLLING IN THE AISLES HE SHOULD HAVE FINISHED WITH A STATEMENT AKIN TO HIS TEAM BEING “THE 2014 TEAM TO BEAT” IF THAT DIDN’T LEAD TO CONVULSIONS OF LAUGHTER, I’M NOT CERTAIN WHAT ELSE COULD.

    CAN’T U JUST SEE BELTRAN RISING TO THAT BAIT AGAIN?

  • Xavier 22

    Shhhh! It’s Sunday morning. Use you indoor voice.

  • Xavier 22

    Here’s the thing, if you work someplace that has a policy you disagree with, you tend to make sarcastic jokes about it. I take Sandy’s jokes as a way of venting about dealing with the Wilpons.

  • metFAN660

    Lol. Haven’t you realized these boards are just outlets for angry and lonely people to howl, and for kids who got beat up in school to act tough? These losers are not “the faithful.” They are trolls, and they would be just as miserable if they were Yankees fans.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    I’ve been saying this for the LONGEST !

    Sandy in code has been trying to speak out against his bosses for the longest…

  • Just_Da_damaja

    ummm

    the yanks signed the kid in his mid-20’s folks were bidding on.

    the mets signed the guy no one else wanted to offer a MLB spot

  • Xavier 22

    If Sandy is in line to be the next MLB commissioner he will be in an excellent position to know whether the Wilpons can afford to be owners of an MLB team. I sense there’s no love lost between him and Jeffy.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    Sandy becoming GM = the wilpons biggest fear and our biggest hope.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    looks like Fred in his younger days.

    #CAPEFRED

  • Randolph Scott

    Ya know, when you post things like this: “But let’s be honest, none of these issues make the Wilpons bad owners.” and this: “What lies? And this fan base is pretty easy to talk down to. Not exactly a MENSA convention”, you lose all credibility to call critics of the Owners & FO “losers” and “trolls”.

    Sometimes I wish I didn’t know about how disingenuous and corrupt our owners are, and just enjoy the Mets, but then again, I don’t like going thru life with my head buried in the sand either.

  • Waz0787

    No one signed him yet. We still have hope :-/

  • Tacohow

    Why? If you’re frustrated at rooting for a team that plays in the biggest market while their payroll shrinks every year and they lose every year you’re an “angry and lonely person”???
    Me thinks you might be the angriest person here…

  • DMets3

    Hey Sandy, how about not signing beer leaguers on our ballclub? Joke is on you if the Mets are in last place this year.

  • PA Met Fan

    The jokes are only funny if we are winning

  • HawkZon

    All the trolls are here now from Metsblog.
    Here we are all entitled to our opinions.

  • NewYorkMammoths

    The jokes don’t bother me — the deception about the Wilpons’ ability to finance a big market team does.

    There can be many reasons for people to dislike the Wilpons. My reason is that with the strong, lifelong emotional ties that people have with their hometown team, passed on from their parents and shared by their neighbors, owning a major league team is in large part a trust for the benefit of the community. If over a period of years you have to figure out how you can hang on month to month while paying your debts, preventing you from making basic upgrades that can help the team, you are violating that trust and should pass the team to someone else.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I don’t think Sandy should be joking about our roster or financial situation;

  • Hodges14

    Exactly. There’s nothing funny, laughable or loveable about a losing team being run into the ground.

  • HawkZon

    Well said

  • Hodges14

    Sandy’s comments tell me he really doesn’t want to be here. Not sure why he doesn’t just quit and go away. I guess Selig told him he has to finish his contract.

  • Hodges14

    It does seem that his methods aren’t playing out very well in NY.

  • Hodges14

    Not sure how that is a cut at the Yankees. They’re retooling their team to get back into the post season after a rare miss last year. If nothing else they are showing determination to win.

  • Hodges14

    Actually spending in free agency is not what caused the problems we have now. The Wilpons getting caught with Madoff and then cutting the payroll in half is what caused the problems we have now.

  • mad met

    Very funny sandy now go play in traffic …hey fred nice to have a gm that mocks your team and your fan base .him and boras are giving u the big stiffy …LeTs go mETS

  • Hodges14

    If he doesn’t like it he should quit. He knew when he took the job the owners were tools.

  • Hodges14

    It’s not a precedent. Yogi Berra was inducted in 1972 and has no logo on his cap on his plaque.

  • Hodges14

    Only the rules of common sense.

  • Hodges14

    Whether it works out or not its hard to criticize the Yankees for making a genuine effort to win.

  • Connor O’Brien

    I don’t have a problem with his (clearly backhanded towards the Wilpons) jokes. He’s in the entertainment business, as much as people get too caught up to realize this. It’s not like this is a fire chief joking about not having funding for the right equipment.

  • TexasGusCC

    BBLB,
    I wrote something below, look at it and tell me what you think.

  • Charley’s Twin

    Douche

  • SRT

    I have no problem with SA’s dry wit. A good sense of humor goes a long way, especially for us Met fans these past several years.

  • Metstheory22

    Would you give $155 million to a player that has not thrown a pitch in the majors? Could be, Igawa and Irabu rolled into one.

  • LIKayLGM

    Again, for the newcomers to MMO – Welcome, and please note that Mets62fan has a disability that requires him to use all Caps…..a little compassion goes a long way.

  • LIKayLGM

    Nothing wrong with being a frustrated with the team, who isn’t? The point is, Alderson speaking at a dinner has NOTHING to with the state of the team, and because he cracked some jokes it opens the lines of people to repeat their anger and it’s misplaced. That is all.

  • BehindTheBag

    To the Yankees, that contract is Colon money

  • SpinalRemains

    He pokes fun at his own roster a lot. I’m not too sure what to make of it. I’d like to think he is just unusually human for his position. The previous OF comment bothered me more than this did though. No biggee. Maybe its his way of saying “hey, Coupons…….give me a NY payroll to work with.”

  • TexasGusCC

    I wrote this on the bottom, but want to get more opinions:

    At first reaction, I am sick and tired of Alderson’s standup routine. However, after thinking about it, knowing he hates those kind of deals and also mentioning the subway series, makes me think he was chastising the Yankees for taking such a gamble and, in essence, patting himself on the back for getting a player while committing so little.

    Obviously, he has no regard for the difference in abilities, but Alderson never has any regard for players.

  • BehindTheBag

    Here’s a joke – “The Wilpon’s are so broke, they can’t afford to field a competitive baseball team.”

    Or this classic “Take my outfield – PLEASE!”

  • metFAN660

    Yes. The partial quotes from various posts really tell a full story. Are you a producer for Fox News? Next.

  • metFAN660

    No Taco. Just realistic that sometimes a team has to bottom out to get great again. And not howling that it doesn’t happen overnight.

  • metFAN660

    Sure, but when those “opinions” include “I hate this guy” (in caps), because Leroy doesn’t like the GMs humor, you get a good sense of what you’re dealing with.

  • SRT

    According to Rubin’s mention of it this morning, he agrees with you:

    ‘Sandy Alderson’s latest one-liner poked fun at the Yankees signing Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka for $155 million (plus the $20 million posting fee), while the Mets brought back Daisuke Matsuzaka on a minor-league deal.’

  • metFAN660

    Good one, Charley. Way to make my point.

  • Sandy Alderson faux

    I just read off the roster.

  • coyote521

    Well said!

  • Fast Eddie

    Sandy’s jokes bother me a little bit, but only because its a realization of where we are as a baseball franchise in NY City. You know what bothers me a lot? Our 85 million dollar payroll and the fact we had to pass on players who could have really helped us like José Abreu and Peralta. How much different would our infield look with those two guys on it? Lightyears better…and in today’s market, they are both bargains relatively speaking. We would absolutely be in the hunt for a playoff spot and Citi Field would be buzzing in September rather dead and silent.

  • metsman

    I woke up this morning and “I got you babe” was playing on the radio yet again.

  • metsman

    …Sort of like Colbert at the correspondence dinner; joking, but not really.

  • Anthony Schifano

    Sandy Alderson is the joke.

  • skyking26

    Jeff already crawled out of his hole.

  • Hitmanᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔

    You mean like how they were gonna be the last two seasons? They’re not “last place” awful, but there’s some adjustments that need to be made.

  • metsman

    Do you really believe the Wilpons have the money and just don’t want to spend it? That it’s a matter of shaming them into opening up some vault of completely unleveraged capital? You think a pompous family like the Wilpons are voluntarily the butt of jokes? I am guessing their finances are still a mess, I could be wrong, but I think they figuratively wrote check their butts couldn’t cash with regards to this offseason. I think they want to win, and they have proven they will spend money when they have it….maybe not well, and without their two cents worth. I don’t see it as some kind of duplicitous plot to make money with a losing franchise.

  • NewYorkMammoths
  • skyking26

    lol.

  • trevordunn

    Sandy is better at telling jokes than he is at acquiring a SS

  • Captain America

    Harvard educated Vietnam Vet turned stand up comedian?

  • TexasGusCC

    Thanks SRT. Last night when I wrote it I was called a troll and so I wanted to ask it again to get some more opinions glad someone can agree with that

  • Derpy

    No, it is against the CBA. Team officials cannot talk about a contract for a player that isn’t under their control. It is a major breach. Just a few weeks ago Cashman got into pretty serious trouble for telling a joke about Mike Trout making a lot of money when he becomes a free agent. It is strictly forbidden to tell these sorts of jokes. As in, explicitly forbidden.

  • metFAN660

    Or……..they finally got wise after spending zillions and not winning anything, and they’re trying a new, approach instead of “win now.” You can dream up, (or wish for), all sorts of scenarios of financial Armageddon, but at the end of the day, the Wilpons are still very very wealthy people who are no less capable of owning the Mets than they were before the Madoff debacle. Smart wealthy people learn from their mistakes, and it seems to me that’s the best reason for them not spending like the Yankees. The Yankees have spent wildly over the last 20 years, but they also had a core to build around. Let’s see how their latest binge turns out before wishing that we were more like them.

  • Tacohow

    This team was not at the bottom when Sandy took over. It had an extraordinary number of assets to work around. At the major-league level we had Reyes, wright, Santana, dickey, Murphy, Pagan
    At the minor league level we had Harvey, legares, mejia. Parnell, familia, matz, Flores, puello, satin, even guys like duda and Davis,

    My biggest problem with Alderson is other than two good trades (Beltran and dickey) he has done little in four years: not yet drafted a single player ranked by any minor league scouting sites, wasted the limited funds he had on the likes of markum, carassco and Francisco.
    Alderson just hasn’t been much.

  • Hodges14

    The Yankees have been spending and winning since free agency started in the mid 1970’s, long before the current 20 year run.

    George Steinbrenner was smart enough to know from day 1 that if you win in NY there is no price that’s too high to pay. It will all come back to you.

  • Andrew Herbst

    I think that could be the case. I will Sandy will work with Selig once his contract expires with the Mets.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    The sad part is, Jeff, fred and sandy can laugh about it, as they are all making good money and this is their “job” but I don’t think we as fans find it funny at all. That the team we love, the team we have watched for over 30 years, some of us more some less, the team we spend a lot of money and TIME either watching or reading about, is laughing how they don’t spend money to make the team better. If you cant afford the damn team sell it, Im sure you will get some real good offers! then the willpons can put all the money in the bank so they can look at it and not spend it, and we can all get on with watching our team.

  • The Tanaka line about it being Japanese for Scherzer is about to hit the freaking jackpot was a good one but the other month to month one was not as good. Alderson should read the comments section in blogs more for better material cause Mets fans tend to be pretty good at sarcastic Gallows humor jokes about their team.

  • El_Verdadero_Presidente

    I get the backhanded slaps at his bosses. Pretty funny. What kills me, though, is that his arsenal is reduced to flinging spitballs like this. It’s obviously all the ammo he’s got. He can’t pry another shekel out of their cold, dead hands and all he’s got now is cracking jokes and crossing days off the calendar.

  • Hodges14

    If he turns out to be a bust they will go out and get someone else. It’s all about the constant pursuit of winning.

  • Hodges14

    I think you’re talking about the tampering rules and my understanding they have more to do with trying to lure players from other teams to your team. Judging by Alderson’s comments there was no such intent (or possibility since the Mets are flat broke).

  • If I thought Sandy’s joke was knocking the Mets, this post would have been a totally different animal.

    I agree that his knock was at the Yanks and not us.

  • Edward Batchelor

    Dice- K was signed to a minor league contract with an invite to spring training. Yanks signed a guy who’s never thrown a pitch in MLB to a guaranteed 9 figure long term contract with a no trade clause. Not at all similar.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Jason,

    What does that have to do with now?

    I mentioned that through levity in front of a black tie audience, just like last winter with “what outfield?” and going through the internet, it was the general manager’s way of acknowledging that money is simply not there is holding us back from addressing many of our needs. And yet when speaking with us, the fan base, on a more serious nature, the reasons behind not spending is because success is achieved through “concentrated payroll” and better “payroll management”.

    Why can’t he be honest with us and say we are still under tremendous financial restrictions and that the money is simply not there so we cannot address our issues in the same manner as other clubs. Billy Beane did with those in Oakland. These are his words:

    “The fact of the matter is, for us to compete, we’re going to have to have a new stadium, and I don’t think there was a move we could have made that would put us in a position to compete with a club like the Angels or Texas given what they have and where they’re headed and some of those signings.

    “You’re talking about two clubs in the division that are probably in the $150- to $170-million range, and we’re not a business that can put that payroll on the field.”

    How come Beane can say that but when it comes to Sandy being more honest with the fans, the excuse is what is he expected to say, that the team is broke? If finances meant rebuilding the club, no matter how much I would have not liked it, instead of saying…..

    “I wasn’t hired to apply a Moneyball approach to the New York Mets. I would not have accepted the position were I required to run the Mets on a shoestring budget. On the other hand, I did come in with my eyes wide open. I did recognize that there would be some payroll restrictions this year, keeping in mind that when everything’s said and done our payroll will probably be somewhere between 130 and 140 million dollars. We’ll probably be in the top four or five in all of baseball. So, the problem is not that we don’t have resources, the problem is that we have limited additional resources to spend this year. So, what you see today or what you’ve seen over the last two weeks shouldn’t necessarily be representative of what you see over the next two or three years. But we do have to get through a somewhat difficult period from a standpoint of our payroll because we already have most of it committed.

    “My business philosophy is that we want to be prudent under all circumstances but New York is not Oakland. As I said earlier, I wouldn’t be here if it were. So, we do have a long term strategy but that long term is focused on being as good as we can be today but also putting an infrastructure in place that will make us as good as we can be down the road.”

    ….I would rather he said what Beane did when besides admitting the club not having the money to spend he also said:

    “I’d rather run a club that has a plan, a three- or four-year plan, and see that plan implemented, and see the team get better over time, as opposed to putting together a patchwork on a year-to-year basis which has a very limited future,” said Beane, who has watched his club endure five straight non-winning seasons. “Whenever we’ve been successful is when we’ve had a plan and stuck to it, and when we haven’t been successful is when we try to act on a year-by-year basis.”

    That is what I’ve been trying to say with the credibility issue instead of “double-talk” because his words do not match his actions. Forget about the past about Jose being a priority, why we traded KRod and Beltran, that we were buyers in 2012, that we were not going to “punt” seasons or that we wanted to sign Bourn in 2013. Let’s focus on the points we each mention.

    You regarding rebuilding and questioning the wisdom of re-signing Wright, signing Granderson, etc (suggesting those were focused more on marketing than rebuilding). Or my own about us being two bats away from becoming a true contender and those additional moves were not made because Sandy is focused more on saving money than finding the two missing pieces which the farm system cannot as yet produce.

    Doesn’t matter who is right or wrong in this discussion – what is important is that Sandy hasn’t taken the full proper steps to address either position. And the reasons were business related, not what he saw as what would be in the best interests of the team.

    And that is what the credibility issue is all about – today. Not those of our forefathers. What happened in the past is ancient history for raising the past only serves to sidetrack what is going on now.

    That is the issue. I think we would all have felt differently – even if we didn’t agree with him – had we had not just a more honest general manager but one who had a serious conviction on how he wanted the team to be shaped and stuck to it completely. Instead, we have seen that his concerns are about the business only – cost cutting (payroll reduction a goal even when a team is contending) and not trading players (Reyes) and actually spending on them (Wright, Granderson) when deemed good marketing strategy.

  • Derpy

    Cashman said practically the same thing in the same way about Trout and got into trouble for it.

  • Peter S

    Sandy Alderson did what most people do in speeches. He got a good laugh to put on a show. I have no problem with it and agree that his joke was directed at the Yanks. I still think this is all part of his grand plan to become the next commish.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Thank you for letting us know!

  • Taskmaster4450

    Imagine the outrage if Dice K actually makes the team and wins more games this year than Tanaka does.

  • Joey D.

    Hi MLBGM,

    That is all it really comes down to, sadly.

  • Joey D.

    Hi trevordunn,

    Also better telling jokes than he is retaining the home grown short stop he had.

  • mad met

    Amen brother ..i will never forgive this stupid front office for letting reyes go

  • mad met

    Still not funny

  • Super T

    Or he could be Yu Darvish.

  • TexasGusCC

    Alderson thinks he’s a funny guy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DwZfyXAXI

  • Peter S

    Wonder if Vegas will give us prop bets on that one.

  • Video of Parnell & Gee receiving the Joan Payson Humanitarian award. They don’t speak at the podium until the 7:48 mark but once they do the speak very well and Parnell & Gee even get a good laugh out of the crowd.

    http://m.mlb.com/video/v31323041

  • By the way here is the video of the Mets GM presenting Scherzer with the American League Cy Young award. The jokes were funnier watching them than they were reading them.

    http://m.mlb.com/video/v31323029

  • jason bay

    George got in early though and got the best players without having to give up any draft picks and he also had Munson, Chambliss, Randolph, Dent, Nettles, Gamble, Pinella, Rivers, Guidry, Lyle, ect from the farm or trades.

    After they ran their their course he kept bringing guys in but failed to make the post season for 13 straight years. It wasn’t until Jeter, Mariano, Bernie, Petite, Posada, El Duque and trades from the farm (ie having something to trade) for Tino, Knoblauch, O’Niel, Cone, Nelson that it came back around again.

    Then the Yanks added Soriano, Cano, Gardner, Nova and Robertson from the farm, got Granderson for trading prospect Austin Jackson while Jeter, Mariano and Pettite were still there and Soriano was traded for A Rod that they remained competitive and won another World Series.

    The Yankees primary and secondary production came from the farm either through performance of their home growns or trades of them and then the FA’s performance kicked in although there were plenty of Wright’s, Pavano’s, Contras, Iwagawa, Irabu, Burnett for every Giambi, Sheffield, CC, Tex, ect.

    By the mid 90’s the Yankees no longer had to try to build a team exclusively through free agency and that’s where they differed from the Mets.

  • LoL, If you haven’t done so listen to Scherzer talking about his lucky belt. It’s too funny.

  • jason bay

    I have to agree with you there Leroy. “Buying to rent” so to speak could have set ourselves up nicely at the deadline in years in which we didn’t figure to compete.

    I don’t think it was necessarily the plan in Miami but the Marlins did get some really good prospects from Toronto when they sold off their FA purchases and it would have been nice if we could have done the same.

    Hopefully that will happen with Young and Colon and I don’t know how much money there was to do that beforehand but it would have addressed some of the problems we have no had we been correct on the guys we bought although it does seem there were more misses than hits FA wise the last few years.

  • jason bay

    Well Hodges a case can be made that the Wilpon’s diverted money that should have gone into the draft and IFA in order to get the surest and quickest possible return on investment. That philosophy could certainly be traced back to Madoff as well but we cannot say for sure but you might be right.

    Regardless a NY team should have had enough payroll to work with in the present without skimping on the future and Minaya should not have had to work with one hand tied behind his back. Not saying he should have embraced the Wilpon Method as fully he did but who knows what the alternatives were.

    Bottom line is if we had drafted McCutchen, Stanton, Trout and signed Bogaerts, Hanson and Polanco we would be sitting pretty right now even with Madoff.

    In a lot of ways the farm resembles our recent teams in that almost everything had to work out as well as you could have hoped for the whole thing to and that is basically because of the plan put in place by ownership.

  • mad met

    Now thats funny

  • Hotstreak

    Hear I disagree strongly. He was hired to save their collective a$$es and succeeded while the Mets Suck.

    This is good cop bad cop and a cop out.

  • metFAN660

    Yes, and Reyes left, Johan broke down, and nobody cared that Pagan was tossed until he got his act together in SF. Once again, Taco, this is called rebuilding. Alderson’s draft picks can’t be fully evaluated since they chose the players with the highest ceilings, regardless of age. You may want everything right now, but you’re just gonna have to wait a little longer. And the Buck/Byrd trade looks pretty good right now, too.

  • metFAN660

    I’d be even happier if Colon out pitches him. 🙂

  • Hotstreak

    If I was Sandy’s speech (joke ) writer:

    “Here about the Met fan who got beat up by a Yankee fan. They were considerate though they let him keep his Met jacket.”
    “Yes a lot want to beat up on the Mets myself included. But we have Ike Duda and Colon to protect me and Grandy to protect David”

  • The only people that have a problem with it are the ones that want to have a problem with it. I personally could care less.

  • metFAN660

    Right. And all those years when they were outspending everyone but the Yankees really paid off. How many championships? Oh yeah…none.

  • metFAN660

    Right, cause he’s really paid off for the Marlins and the Jays.

  • Tacohow

    He mishandled the Reyes situation so badly it was laughable (no trade, no effort to resign him)
    His Pagan trade was a disgrace at the time (why trade for 35 year old andres Torres if you are rebuilding)
    “High ceiling” draft picks? Cechinni? In what scouting report?
    It is almost ridiculous that 3 drafts in and we can’t name a single prospect close to the majors that he selected in any round (the player selected after Nimmo? Jose Fernandez, just won rookie of the year. Selected after Cechinni? Michael Wacca, starter for the cardinals).
    You want patience? Fine. I want competence. Alderson hasn’t shown it.

  • metFAN660

    And had The sainted Steinbrenner not been suspended from the game, the Yankees never would have kept Williams and Pettitte and Jeter and Posada to build around. I’m all for spending money…even overspending…but not until they’re closer to winning over the long hall.

  • metFAN660

    Taco, I’m not going to school you any more on why Reyes left. I’m bored with explaining what the “free” in free agent means. Everyone, including his teammates, couldn’t stand Pagan, and nobody cried when he was jettisoned, so ease up on the revisionism. And yes, Cecchini is starting to get a lot of notice from talent evaluators who know more than you or me. And yes, the Mets, and others, passed on Wacha and Fernandez. That happens, but I’m pretty happy with the pitching depth that’s already here and that’s getting closer. Stop whining.

  • Flobudeeflee! By the way I was looking the other day for it but it seems Hulu took down the angry old man skit.

  • NOOOOO their gone. Here is one on Yahoo. SNL’s site has them there but they have no search function so it’s not worth digging through it

    http://screen.yahoo.com/dana-carvey-grumpy-old-man-000000121.html

  • Tacohow

    Quick lesson: if you have to tell someone you schooled them, you haven’t.
    If you resort to telling people to stop whining, you’re probably the one whining

    And don’t accuse people of revising history and making up facts as you laughably talk about scouts “taking notice” of Cecchini…was it his 14 RBIs at rookie ball Brooklyn that made people notice in 2014?

    As for passing on star pitchers to pick high schoolers because of our pitching depth, didn’t we just have to sign a 40 year old to anchor our rotation?

  • Ha! Bookmarked Thanks! I found my favorite one.
    “Life was a carnival!!!” 🙂

    http://screen.yahoo.com/dana-carvey-snl-skits/grumpy-old-man-3-000000564.html

  • That’s my favorite too. The Stare at the Sun part just kills me.

  • One more from last night. It’s been a while since I laughed this hard on a new SNL skit

    http://screen.yahoo.com/snl/hit-093406722.html

  • I caught that last night. It was good. The opening with DiCaprio and Hill was funny as well.

  • Hotstreak

    Kay I understand your position but when I was seven years old and heard the term “World Series” I repeated it and said World Serious” My parents laughed. Real loud too. The told me the correct pronunciation.

    Yes for some people the world is very serious. I feel for them for their misfortune.

    As to the Mets we do not want to be laughing stocks by the guy who supposed to make us competitive and never used the word “rebuilding” in the proper way.

    Yes terms like , shill, troll, lovers, haters and whiners
    Casey Stengel was loveable as was Marve Thronberry. We’re past that

    After the Donald Grant era to have to relive it all without an honesty to the fans of a true rebuilding phase and true assessment of Madoff impact disillusioned fans are not cancer survivors who lost a love one. But they lost their team which I am not fair to compare. The Romans and their chariot races. Sports is an outlet from boredom and misery.

    Damn Yankees a deal was made with the devil. Fans have passion and it was hijacked by owners and lied about by our GM.

    Remember the GM tweating about not having enough gas to make it to the Winter meetings about three years ago. Remember the box of chocolates. These remarks were not made at a Baseball Black Tie affair where humor might be the norm and expected. LGM

  • joeyd1966

    The Yankees went 15 years without making the playoffs while spending more than any other team. It wasn’t until George was suspended from baseball that they stopped trying to buy or trade all their prospects for aging star’s and allowed Stick Micheal to rebuild the entire franchise from the farm system up.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    He knows something about being a joke so it comes easy for him to be funny

  • metsman

    Woah nelly…you’re barking up the wrong tree…I was just heckled hardcore the other day for suggesting that we are better off as Met fans; that it’s pathetic to be jealous of the Yankee business model. I’d rather win on our terms with our homegrown players and our bungling broke owners than with a ownership that operates with financial impunity shielding their fanbase from reality. I grew up in a Yankee house, it was always about more and nothing was ever good enough.

    Anyway, They said money would be freed up and it was, just because we are ready for.them to start spending mid ’00s type money again doesn’t mean that all the financial complications disappeared. It is possible they are trying to tread water and make money, Astro style, time will tell. If they owe so much money and have leveraged a good deal of their ownership share they might have trouble spending money. I’d like to read a thoroughly researched update on their finances because I don’t really understand whats going on.

  • metsman

    Kind of like that disorder that compels people to yell “free bird” at concerts?

  • Just_Da_damaja

    Or the outrage if Beltran outproduces Granderson…

  • Just_Da_damaja

    Perfect

  • metFAN660

    Facts, Taco. You should try to acknowledge them some time.

  • Here’s the thing…while it’s good to laugh, no one likes being laughed it. And this is what irks me about Richie when he goes on with his pre-conceived well-thought out jokes, they don’t feel as they’re self-effacing humor. He is NOT making fun of himself. No. It feels like he’s making fun of us. We the fans. Like Ha Ha. The joke’s on us.

  • VfJ

    Love your skull !

  • goorru

    i·ro·ny
    noun.
    the expression of one’s meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

  • VfJ

    I have come to love the self deprecating digs at our lame ownership…If Sandy has one thing it is perspective !
    He is in on the joke, doing the best he can, and the Grondhog Day, “I got you babe” references are so apropos….(credit most recent metsman)

  • metFAN660

    Haha Goorru…aren’t you the one who told us all that pitching wasn’t a big deal anymore?

  • goorru

    Apparently your reading comprehension needs work. Good luck finding where I said pitching wasn’t a big deal.

  • Xavier 22

    For reals? I notice that “WILPONesque” is not in all caps.

  • mad met

    When not or

  • mad met

    One man never makes a team.. does not mean i dont want him on mine . Funny we could use a ss that hits over 300 and plays stellar d right about now

  • metFAN660

    But he left. He wanted the most money he could get, and he got a haul. That’s what free agency is all about. They couldn’t trade him the year before because he got hurt. And they tried to extend him during his walk year and he said no. The End. He’s gone. Time to move on.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Derpy,

    I remember George Steinbrener also got into trouble when speaking with reporters he was advised by one that Angel’s catcher Brian Downing was eligible for free agency at the end of the season. He said he was unaware of that, expressed his interest and then jotted down Downing’s name on a notepad. This happened after we lost Thurman Munson, obviously.

    It was reported in the papers the next day and that is when he was cited for tampering. Downing later on re-signed with the Angels anyway.

  • Fonzie

    Reyes hasn’t played stellar D in about five years and has only hit over 300 once. Funny how 29 out of 30 teams failed to make an offer because they realized that giving an injury prone speed guy whose defense is in decline and who also has a very low baseball IQ a 6 year deal for over 100 million would be idiotic.

  • Fonzie

    Yes. he’s been an MMO regular for years.

  • Fonzie

    Jason, when are you going to learn that he’s never going to understand the importance of spending on player development as opposed to spending to fill out a roster through free agency. It’s a lost cause.
    One thing I’m getting a kick out of is how he used to rub in your face how so many agree with when he debated you yet all I see is him getting way more thumbs down while you’re getting way more thumbs up. It’s highly enjoyable. Like I said, you can’t go by the comment section. Not all who read these articles and posts comment. He’s a “Core” member and they have a lower approval rating than George Bush.