Possibility That Mets Acquire A Shortstop Via Trade Has Evaporated

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JetsMets13 asks…

I really love your site! Can you answer me a question? When the offseason started Sandy Alderson said that we would probably acquire significant players mostly through trades rather than the free agent market. But then he signed Bartolo Colon and Curtis Granderson. Does that mean we shouldn’t expect any trades?

Joe D. replies…

I believe Sandy said that because at the time we were seeing some exorbitant deals being dished out before the GM Meetings. It was probably a reaction to what some were calling “sticker shock.”

That said, don’t expect any trades this late in the game.

There might be a chance that the Mets still trade Ike Davis before the season starts, however, it won’t be for a “significant player or players.”

Teams are too unwilling to pay much for Ike coming off one of the worst seasons by any first baseman in 2013. And on the flip side, Sandy wasn’t willing to just give him away because of his power potential. So what you have is a true stalemate.

Even up to a month ago, Sandy told reporters that if he acquired a shortstop to replace Ruben Tejada this winter, it would almost certainly come about via a trade.

But as Anthony DiComo wrote after speaking to Sandy last week, “Now, even that possibility has evaporated.”

“I’d say that trade possibilities — just with the passage of time and knowing more about various situations — a trade is probably less likely now,” Alderson said.

So to answer your question, yes, you shouldn’t expect any trades.

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  • Alex68 (Ch)

    So to answer your question, yes, you shouldn’t expect any trades.”

    We don’t have CY nor HOF players to trade so…. even a blind man could’ve seen that
    #GoodLuckIn2014
    #InSandyWeTrust
    #76WinsIsAnImprovement
    #ItWasntReally2014WeMeant2015

  • rwdavis22461

    Free Agency in 2015 will have some decent choices we will see maybe later in season we can obtain a ss in trade but now lets just stay with Tejada does not mean you commit to him but wait it out . And if Drew lowers to last year 9.5 maybe for this season only but i am not a big Stephen Drew fan.

  • Charley’s Twin

    But you should expect another 74 wins.

  • elsid1986

    BINGO

  • Metstheory22

    SS will be either Tejada or Drew at this point. So if Boras blinks, it will be Drew. Expect Drew to sign late, maybe even during Spring Training. Not with us, probably.

  • In my defense, I wear glasses.

  • boraswannabe

    Less likely, yes. But it hasn’t evaporated. I’m sure if they decided to trade Niese as an example, that they could get something done.

  • Glasses are good. That is why you can see how the Mets traded for Black, Herrera and Young jr despite no CY or HOF player. 🙂

  • AJF

    Hey Wilpons and Sandy watch the fans evaporate from Citi Field

  • mad met

    People wake up. This guy lies out his a$$..he is a puppet for an owner with no money trying to trick fans into thinking we have any shot to win . So people will spend there hard earned money on an inferior product . You may as well buy amway

  • Charley’s Twin

    Free agency in 2015? Haha. I have some oceanfront property in Arizona to sell you.

  • RyanF55

    I think this comes down to the Mets not willing to expend the players needed to bring back any value. Trades work two ways, and to acquire an impactful SS for example you’ll have to give up a lot. I think the Mets are smart to hold onto their young arms – I think their value will continue to increase. In the case of Ike Davis, I think Sandy is being smart realizing that the options seem:

    1 – Get rid of Davis for nothing and free a little under 3 million in salary (Which could land 1/2 of a Chris Young caliber player in contrast)
    2- Trade him for a A, possibly AA caliber pitcher
    3 – Hold on to Davis, hope he starts to hit again and at worst eat the 3 million.

    I’d go with option #3.

  • mad met

    Exactly

  • rwdavis22461

    as the season goes who knows if a players price goes up or down. and i do not want to be exhorted (sp?) if we are not challanging right now lets not get held up. Unless Drew’s price goes down i would not bite more then one year maybe two years one year and a second year option for 18.5 million then i would listen. I would not go past two years and 20 million on him,.

  • rwdavis22461

    Things change during year. wait it out.

  • rwdavis22461

    As the month goes on and soon spring training starts players will become more jumpy. Do not give in even though we do need a better ss does not mean we have to be held up for him. And i rather wait even if we have to play Rueben fine i do not think Drew will put us in contention anymore then Tejada can. I understand Drew is better but by how much not sure. i do not see in our lineup and our stadium that Drew will be better then he was last year and hense i would be worried to sign him. Fenway and the Red Sox lineup can afford to have him in their lineup vs Here is my fair compromise. 1 year 11.5 or two years at 18.75 million He will not get more from Boston because they have more choices in 2015 we can give him the job for two years at most vs Boston so either take our deal or their deal. No other teams are involved or they would of sweep in for him already.

  • rwdavis22461

    Drew will most likely be on that list as well so i think with Asdrubel Cabera which would be my first choice but Sandy has a man crush on the A’s ss Lowrie .

  • anthony G. Decesare

    Ok, now sign Stephen Drew and get it over with.

  • Alberto Salebe

    Do you feel better now?

  • KennyandtheMets

    I understand the philosophy of holding on to young pitching. However, those young pitchers need a TEAM behind them. If they don’t want to sign Drew, they really should trade some pitching for a SS. Not only is Tejada a marginal talent, he is also injury prone.

  • Alberto Salebe

    How much you paid for it?

  • anthony G. Decesare

    I am curious, what do you guys think of signing Bobby Abreu to a minor league deal to see if he has something left? Could be part of a platoon with Chris Young. Could be insurance if Lageres can’t hit and you move Cy or Grandy to cf and abreu goes to the corner. Possible this year’s version of a Marlon Byrd candidate?

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Black has 10 innings if that
    EY was on waiver pretty much, what did he do? steal some bases who basically are considered a footnote by your lord sandy and really?? Herrera???? When i say Nimmo and Cechinni are bust you guys are saying it’s premature for me to say that, yet every minor leaguer acquired by sandy is somehow a HOF.. you guys are so funny…

  • Never said they were what one would expect for that type (CY,HOF) player but that they were trades made despite not having that type of player.
    I understand your concern but in keeping with your metaphor when one is just as perfectly content to fire blanks providing ammo is of very little concern.

  • Joey D.

    Hi rw,
    Even though you do mention contract figures, your main point of contention is that you do not feel Drew would mean putting us any closer to being a contender and though a better shortstop than Tejada can be, how much better you are not sure of.
    Though there are limits to paying anybody, that is exactly what we should be taking about – what could he bring to the team for the time period he could be signed more than the negotiating strategy or contract amount.
    There is concern for his health issues but as you do bring out, as a player he is not a high echelon shortstop – his fielding is below par, he strikes out a lot, does not hit for a high average or get on base, does not have speed and even his earlier home run power was aided by playing in Arizona – again, something we should look out for in regards to CYJ.
    Taking that into account, however, he would be high echelon compared to what we have now. What is sad is that we wouldn’t even be having this conversation if re-signing one of the top echelon shortstops in the game two years back was indeed of high priority as we were told (for high priority does not mean having just informal discussions tossing around figures and never making a formal contract offer)

  • BCleveland3381

    No thanks. He’s a terrible defender at this point, which is a big deal on a team built around pitching. I get that he gets on base at a solid clip, but he’ll be 40 in March and his average and power are all but gone. Basically, we’d be paying for a guy we don’t really need to walk a bunch. I just don’t see the point.

  • RyanF55

    Agreed…I know I wouldn’t touch Syndergaard….so that leaves Montero and a host of others. Realistically, what SS would you want to trade for?

  • CyYout

    The correlation between winning and attendance is pretty clear. http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/history/year_by_year_results.jsp

  • 🙂 For someone who boasts that all he speaks is the truth how is it you make so many inaccurate comments?
    At least you got the footnote part right this time. I’ll give you that.

  • rwdavis22461

    With all due respect. i think he was good in the Red Sox lineup because people rather pitch to him then to Ortiz or others in their lineup so he got better pitches to hit. Sure i respect he took advanage of it. but here he will not get that as much. I think he is extremely overrated . Gets hurt alot has not played over 128 games in awhile. i just do not think talent here is worth more then what he got in Boston. I think Boston realies that they lucked out last year and that they rather go with what they have with their kids. I feel Drew will be a bust here and we can’t afford the bust as much as Boston can afford. They are playing with house money .

  • He was already in a steep decline even before missing the 2013 season and now he’s 40.

    I would rather wait and see how Dustin Lawley and Cesar Puello develop as either one could be ready by May or June at the latest.

    Nice suggestion though. In his prime, Abreu was a tremendous hitter with superior on-base pct..He has nearly a .400 career OBP.

  • HillsideAve

    Generally agree. But I would chisel down his job description to this: Sandy Alderson was hired to keep the Met Owners as owners. In that regard he has done an outstanding job thus far. If the team somehow managed to tread water or slightly improve in the process, that would be gravy.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Saying sandy is your lord is inaccurate saying people in here basically praise sandy for everything he does is inaccurate?
    Ahhh, of course, you’re in that group so of course you’ll deny that ever happen….
    #MovingOn

  • Bail4Nails

    I couldn’t agree more. There is no point in having a stud pitching staff, if they give up 2 runs or less, and still lose half their games. Yes, pitching and defense are very important, but so is run production. The Mets need a good leadoff hitter and shortstop. I think Drew is the best option right now, but we NEED a backup plan. Starting a bench player at shortstop won’t do.

  • Yea I know that I am in “that group”. My group is called “Mets Fans”. It’s too bad you can’t see that. but hey, you are who you are.

    #MovingOnAKAJustWantingToGetTheLastWord

  • BCleveland3381

    Id always thought of him as an average defender without really thinking about it. His metrics support that. He was a little better than most of his career for us last year. Byrd was solid defensively, but he only slightly outplayed his career norms. Abreu has always been a bad defender. His bat has to carry him. His bat has been in a steep decline for years now. The only thing he’s been able to do the last few years is carry a good OBP. With little speed, BA, power, and poor fielding, I just don’t get the upside when we probably have 4 better OF options on the team right now.

  • Bail4Nails

    Is Aledmys Diaz still an option for the Mets?

  • mad met

    Have juan and andrew brown its a no for me

  • mad met

    Agreed. I would rather them just say hey we got no money then tell us some bull crap .. and get our hopes up. Every other team making deals trades at winter meetings and i get hey hootie and the blow fish are coming … kill your self sandy

  • BCleveland3381

    I’ve been for signing Drew. It’s not that I wouldn’t be against giving Tejada another chance. The problem is with Tejada in there, our lineup is going to be a mess. The Mets are already hoping Ike and Chris Young can bounce back, Granderson and Wright can stay healthy, and Lagares and d’Arnaud can take a step forward offensively, now we’re going to need Tejada to as well?

    It would be one thing if our lineup could support him hitting 8th. But he is going to be expected to lead off for this team….Our lineup is messy with him in there.

    SS – Tejada
    2B – Murphy
    3B – Wright
    LF – Granderson
    1B – Ike
    RF – C Young
    C – d’Arnaud
    CF – Lagares.

    That means big question marks at basically every spot in the order.

  • mad met

    No i dont.. i would feel better if they fielded a team with a chance to win … if your ok with with losing its cool buy me .. maybe u can ask for a participation trophy all the losers get

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    No, i meant that i will not get into it with you… you think you sound like an intelectual person, you’re no better than the guy who ran you out of his blog, TRS. always thinking you’re better and more educated than the next person, this is the internet, stop pretending you’re better than the next person you don’t know… .

  • Metstheory22

    I think the reason we have not signed him is the money figures you are referring to. I do not think Alderson wants to go that high (11.5). I would think he is trying to bring that figure down below 8 million per year.

  • mad met

    Agreed. And he is not good at D…. still cant figure out why chris young is here if we have no money.. juan and ey and granderson were fine .. now u have to make room for young . And we still dont have a real cleanup hitter

  • Well so much for #MovingOn. You have now moved on to #TheStrawMan. At least you’re still being inaccurate so you have that going for you. 😉

  • rwdavis22461

    i totally agree thats where he should be . He is a idiot to turn down the 14.1 / Really Scott know your players instead of greed all the time.

  • rwdavis22461

    not a big supporter of Chris Young. got him way too early in the process . I would of held off his price would of gone way down or we would of found another like him.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    #SureIAm

  • anthony G. Decesare

    U would be getting the guy on a minor league deal like you did Marlon Byrd last year.

  • Metstheory22

    In regards to health issues, would you rather have taken a chance on G. Sizemore than Young for that price or maybe less for one year?

  • anthony G. Decesare

    One thing though, Eric young Jr, could end up being the leadoff hitter on opening day…either at 2b, with Murphy at 1b and Duda either on the bench or in the minors, that’s if ike is traded or released in spring training. Or if Ike is here or they brought in say….Kendro Morales to play 1b on a 1 year deal, Eric Young Jr would be the leadoff hitter opening day in LF, with Grandy and Chris Young in the other 2 OF spots and Lageras is on the bench.

  • Biggle Boy

    I think your most likely scenario is the one you first suggested – EY at 2B and leading off. To accomplish that, though, Murph would either be at 1B (as you said) or traded. But they’re going to give Lagares every chance to be the starting CF, and not ride the pine. If Juan plays, Murph stays, and Ike hits, then EY may get some time in LF vs. righties.

  • Joey D.

    Hi 22,
    As far as myself, it’s not a matter of CYJ as far as health issues as it is an overall poor hitter whose power was aided by playing in Arizona (as was Drew as pointed out) and who has been on the decline for three years though he still has an excellent glove but with too many .240 hitters on our club (and his lifetime BA is .235) his glove is not a luxury we can afford in lieu of our lack of run production.

  • TPT

    as a met living in Anaheim Ca i got to see Abreu on a everyday basis and that was like 3 yrs ago when he already had nothing left and his skills wore already eroding and even with injuries the Angels wouldnt dare play him in the outfield because hes frightful out there and chases balls like hes running in 5 ft of water so you cant be serious can you? if not one american league team has signed him as a DH in 2 yrs or a bench player why would you think he be a fit here? omfg noooooo thanx

  • Destry

    What a weird offseason. SS was our biggest need by far and Drew is begging us to sign him, yet we spent $28mil on Colon & C. Young? I have to give Sandy an F- for horribly misreading the market. We gave Granderson 2 more years than anyone else even offered. C.Young would be a free agent still, and there are a number of good SPs available.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Agreed. He’s a winter-league player at this point.

  • RS

    This front office has been shown to seek “value” in FA acquisitions. Drew, at his reported asking price, does not seem like a good value. As many reporters have noted, the Mets are not high on Drew, for reasons that have been discussed as nauseum. As much as we need improvement as shortstop, I like that the FO hasn’t strayed from its gameplan. SA has not shown a propensity to overpay for marginal improvements (which I believe Drew is – dollar for dollar I prefer the other signings).

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    A 40-year-old vet? TC would immediately start him the first 75 games in a row, while Lagares collects dust on the bench. 🙂

  • RS

    Wouldn’t he need time in AAA? I don’t think he’s MLB ready…

  • Reports are Diaz is ready. Allllalalalnedinger is the one that isn’t.

  • Bail4Nails

    I also agree. But, if we don’t get Drew, what about trying Lagares at leadoff? I know his Met numbers weren’t good last year, but he was batting at the bottom of the order. I think his minor league numbers say he could bat leadoff. If we have no other options, it’s worth a shot.

  • Bail4Nails

    That’s the consensus, but he’s 23. I think it’s worth a shot to invite him to Spring Training and see what he can do. At the very least, he can provide some competition for Tejada if we don’t sign Drew. Plus, it may take longer than Drew’s 2 years before we see Cecchini or Rosario. We need a bridge.

  • Matt Mosher

    weird offseason is right. We did fill holes in the outfield, but we still have a terrible shortstop who neither hits nor fields well. Good times.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Don’t forget a ?? mark at C, not even sure who’s a 1B and the ones we have aren’t good either, who knows if our 2B will repeat his best season, LF is terrible and we’re “hoping” he regains his form, our CF is a spider defensively but not sure how good is he offensively… basically, secure is 3B and RF with CG… other than that who knows… again, 76 wins to these people is an improvement and the whole 2014 was just a joke, the year is really 2015 so…

  • Destry

    In what universe did Granderson become good value on a 4yr/$60mil deal at age 33 and coming off an injury that he may or may not return to his former self? Colon for 2 years at $20mil could be a bargain, but it could be a disaster. C. Young could be a value, but most likely he won’t provide anything that Lagares would have. Even if he does turn out to be a value signing, its not what we needed, and we will be looking for an OF & SS next offseason. Matt den Dekker is the LH version of Chris Young anyway, and so is Kirk. Good “D”, lots of Ks, occasional HR. We have too many of the same players at the same positions yet no SS above 19 years that’s can may someday be able to contribute at this level.
    If we would’ve signed Granderson, Drew & a couple of SP & RP on a minor league deal then we would have had a better offseason. The simple fact is that Sandy needed to move Ike Davis and sign a SS that will get half of what a worse SS signed for earlier in the offseason in Peralta.
    We now have question marks at SS, C, RF, CF, LF, 1B, RP & a $4mil 1B that needs to go. EY, Grandy, Lagares, Wright, Drew, Murphy, Duda & TDA is much better than EY, Grandy, CY, Wright, Tejada, Murphy, Davis & TDA. We don’t even have a backup middle IF on the team.

  • mad met

    Rt field is no picnic either 160 k’s 240 avg and changing leagues.expected to hit cleanup .please .. 500 at best. Unless there is a huge trade at allstar. But im just setting myself uo for another huge disapointment

  • Destry

    In fairness Peralta signed for 4/53. If Drew isn’t attached to a draft pick, and Peralta is, then Drew is in St. Louis at 4/53.

  • mad met

    When does this nitemare stop. Poor choice of fa. No creativity for trades . Did not fix ss . No cleanup hitter. Add endless strikeouts just kill me

  • rwdavis22461

    You are incorrect because we signed Grandy we lost that 2nd round to the Yankees so if we signed Drew we would owe Boston the 3rd round the 1st round is protected but not signing Drew he will cost. now Colon was not offered a bid from Oakland so we do not owe on him
    the question of losing the draft choice would not bother me. what bothers me is . Is Stephen Drew worth more then 10+ million i say no in the long run. not because we would lose a 3rd round or a 8th round whatever thats not my problem my problem is that we would over pay him.

  • RS

    $15 mil a year for a potential difference maker in granderson
    or aprox $12 mil a year for a “good” player in Drew. What other option at SS even made/makes sense for the mets? You want peralta (who probably won’t be a ss for the whole length of that contract)?
    DenDecker/cpt kirk/lagares have not shown anything near the power potential CY has

    when evaluating value, you need to look at comparables. Should we have signed choo/ellsbury/cruz instead?
    Omar Q. is still available 😉

  • RS

    Even Puig didn’t come right on to a MLB roster… Plus we already have a 23 y/o SS ;). We need a bridge, but a prospect is not a bridge.

  • Alex68 (Ch)

    Not me, the lower the expectations are, the lower the disappointment… that’s my METS MOTTO!

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    I understand exactly what you’re saying. But there were a lot of holes to fill (SP, 1B, SS, LF, RF), and not a lot of $$$ to do so. I’m guessing the FO made some tough choices, and went with the optimal cost/impact package that they could afford. Part of that meant that some holes weren’t going to be fixed.

    What SS solutions would you have preferred? Peralta seems expensive, and early-offseason-demands Drew was as well.

  • Kabeetz

    Joe raised an excellent point a couple weeks back. Sandy has no track record of trading FOR a star. It’s always been trading a star or a talent for the best package possible.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Stars cost money.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    no

  • Bail4Nails

    True. But if he outplays Tejada in ST, why not? We already have a number of question marks heading into the season (CY, Grandy, 1B, Flores and Lagares and TDA’s progress, and even Tejada himself). This feels like a transition year, no matter how they try to sell it. If the kid plays well enough, why not give him a shot? Maybe he stick around 4 or 5 years. His numbers project better than a bench guy, which Tejada is

  • KennyandtheMets

    I wouldn’t mind Drew, but I am concerned about his durability.
    I agree that we need a SS who can lead off. I’m not sure that Drew fits that role very well, especially vs LHPing. That’s why I would trade for Owings. He has a good bat and speed.

  • metsman

    I think he means a controllable star. Once a star player gets star money, it almost feels.like you are doing the team a favor by taking on the salary in trade. The new trend is that two good player are more valuable than one great one, and even cumulatively, they are almost always cheaper.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Chris Owings from Arizona. He is #84 on the list of top 100 prospects. Speed and power, solid average. Defense a little bit of a concern. Montero is 98th on that same list. So Montero plus a mid level prospect for Owings.

  • Bail4Nails

    Owings would be great! I liked Brad Miller until I found out he’d cost Thor. Nick Franklin doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade over Tejada. And word here is Aledmys Diaz would have to start the season in AAA. Owings fits. Maybe Gee and DeGrom for Owings? Do you think Sandy has completely ruled out a trade at this point?

  • bobblehead

    Is the core the name of your internet “biz”?

  • bobblehead

    He was hired to do a job and he is doing it the best he can under the constraints that he has. But I agree for the most part with what you said, for once.

  • bobblehead

    I just can’t see any scenario where this happens this year. They got lucky with Byrd last year. I’d hate to see Abreu in the starting lineup 3 games a week to start the year, because you know Collins would do it.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    the last time was Rickey Henderson in Oakland in 1989…

    Rickey had one of the highest salaries in baseball at the time..

  • Just_Da_damaja

    So what happens if Centeno, Tejada and Tovar outplay everyone in spring training ?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Sandy & Collins will demote their A–es to the backfield w/ the rest of the minor leaguers.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    Tejada, no.

    Centeno and Tovar can look like Pudge and Cal Ripken and neither one of them are going to beat out anyone for a starting spot.

  • Joey D.

    Hi RW,

    It’s not that I’m against the signing of CYJ as I am his acquisition was with the intent of his becoming our regular left fielder and thinking in terms he could return to resembling the hitter he was in 2010 – in which he did hit .257 (a career high) with 27 home runs (aided by Arizona).

    A friend of mine mentioned to me that he was not at all upset last season that the Mets signed Marcum rather than a more healthy starting pitcher because to him it represented a bigger picture of sound management – that many times players whom seem to be risks due to past injuries, etc. do come back and make major contributions to their new teams. He said the “statistics” shows this happens quite often.

    I agree with him that teams do make these kind of signings but that he failed to take into account one important difference that separates what the Mets are in turn doing as compared to other clubs. When other clubs acquire let us say a Young or a Marcum, it is the exception and not the rule in relation to their overall strategy and nowhere to the degree that the Mets who rely on so many of these types players to resolve their major roster problems.

    Chris Young Jr. is simply representative of Chris Young the pitcher, D.J. Carasco, Shaun Marcum and the multitude of inexpensive players the Mets had acquired over the past few years. In that respect, he too represents a bigger picture but not one my friend tried pointing out to me, that being one of sound management because as far as the Mets are concerned, CYJ is indeed not the exception but the rule.
    Omar got lucky with R.A., Sandy got lucky with Byrd, but one cannot rely on luck because for that all one really needs is a Ouija Board which one could get a used one for $12.93 plus shipping at Amazon. 🙂

  • KennyandtheMets

    I think we would have to give up a little bit more than Montero for Owings.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I hope Sandy hasn’t ruled out a trade for a SS. I would do Gee + Degrom for Owings. I wonder if Arizona would want Montero more than Gee. Personally, I would give them their choice of one or the other.

  • Rocky Thompson

    I still think Ike Davis gets traded before the start of the season. The market is moving in that direction. Baltimore is still looking for a left handed bat as part of a DH platoon. Pittsburgh is still looking for a left handed bat to play at 1B. And Milwaukee is still looking for a IB and it looks like Michael Young (their FA option) is leaning toward retirement.
    Would like to see Ike and a prospect (think Hansel Robles or Erik Goedell type) to Milwaukee for Tyler Thornburg. Thornburg would compete for the 5th spot, but more likely to be another power arm in the bullpen. Milwaukee has him slotted as their #5 starter, but there are some FA options to replace him. If the Mets end up trading Ike for a minor league prospect (say Nick Kingham), I would expect the Mets to sign Mitchell Boggs.
    A trade for a SS looks bleak and the market for free agent veteran backups has dried up to. I am thinking the Mets will either sign Aledmys Diaz or trade for a Cliff Pennington type.

  • Bail4Nails

    Why?

  • KennyandtheMets

    Because Owings is rated higher on the prospects list. He is 84th. Montero is 98th.

  • Bail4Nails

    Sorry, I thought it would be more complex than that. Who else would they have to give up?

  • KennyandtheMets

    Not sure. I guess it would depend, partly, on what Arizona wants. Off the top of my head; den Dekker, Degrom, Fulmer, Ynoa,… Any one of those guys.

  • Bail4Nails

    Wow, that’s kind of a steep price. Good to know, thanks. I’m still kind of leaning toward Diaz, even if he does start in the Minors. I can’t help thinking the Mets would do better to get their ducks in a row for 2015, and I thought Montero was a big part of the picture.

  • bobblehead

    Truce. I liked the idea of signing Kazmir or Arroyo, not sure we really need both, but it would certainly allow the Mets to trade Gee or Niese in the right deal with Syndergaard, Montero, and DeGrom waiting for a call up.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Harvey, Syndergaard, Wheeler, Niese, Colon, Gee, …. not seeing where Montero fits in 2015.

  • Joey D.

    Hi rw,

    Again, that is why I admire the way you are looking at things – you are examining our needs and the projected performance of the player and then determining in your own opinion whether or not it would be in our own bests interests to go after him – all based on issues related to baseball first and then the cost second. With Sandy, for reasons that are either out of his control or he feels need be kept under strict control to best keep Sterling Mets solvent, it’s how much to limit the spending first and then examining our needs and the projected performances of available players to see what would be the best fit second.

  • Destry

    But Peralta is worth $13mil over 4 years at age 32,33,34 & 35?

  • Destry

    Peralta is comparable, as they have almost identical 162 game averages offensively, but Drew is 2 years younger and better defensively. Also, Drew wasn’t using steroids to put up those numbers

  • Destry

    Drew & Granderson looks much better on our team than Young & Granderson. I would rather Drew get Tejada’s playing time, than C. Young get Lagares or EY2’s playing time.

  • rwdavis22461

    Some guys make sense. unless a player is ellite at ss say Tulo where no mattter where he plays he would be by leaps and bounds a superstar for any team he belongs too then i go for that. but the middle of the road guys forget the salary first then add it later. Is a Drew a guy who makes your team extremely better in some circumstanes yes then you say how much was he playing for and what he wants from 9.5 last year to 14.1 which he turned down that means he wants more then that for more years. Even if you give him a slight raise i still think he does not give you more value then 11.5 because the Red Sox won the world series they can afford to up his salary more then what we can i say he was over paid last year sure he had a decent season but that was because of the team around him . I would not want to tie up the position for a guy who is 31 for more then 2 years and since i know next offseason the FA pool favors ss position. if i can get by with Tejada and Tovar for 2014 till next year i think i can stomach one more year at 1 million for Tejada and about 510 K whatever the league min is for Tovar and wait till a better options are avail.

  • The Goat

    Mets need a Short Stop. Gee, didn’t we have one of the best in the game a few years back and let him walk out the door for nothing ? Didn’t even explore trade options for him ?

    Worst owners in MLB.