Mets Sign Dice-K To A Minor League Deal

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The Mets just announced that they have signed righthander Daisuke Matsuzaka to a minor league deal. Of course that includes a Spring Training invite.

I like having the 33-year old Dice-K back, who seemed to rediscover his old self after three bad starts and a fix by pitching coach Dan Warthen.

After allowing 15 earned runs in his first 12.1 innings pitched, the former Japanese phenom held the opposition to just four runs in his next 26.1 inning spanning four starts.

That resulted in a 3-0 record with a 1.37 ERA with a 0.835 WHIP to close out the season and finish with a flourish. Not bad, huh?

Overall he posted a 4.42 ERA and 1.24 WHIP in seven starts with the Mets.

Looks like this will wrap it up as far as adding fifth starter types..

Welcome back, Dice-K…

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  • tobajoma

    Nice move. I doubt he goes to Las Vegas, though. If he doesn’t make the roster, he’ll probably be released. Now upgrade shortstop, the bullpen, and the bench with a veteran pinch-hitter and let’s go.

  • Big Mets Fan

    With how he finished last season, not a bad signing at all.

  • DrDooby

    Yankees sign Tanaka, Mets sign Matsuzaka 😉

  • KennyandtheMets

    I like it. He is a serviceable starter.

  • WillisReid

    Like the signing, but I hope he doesn’t actually have to pitch for the Mets. Guy makes a baseball game an all day affair.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Agreed. How would you upgrade SS? Drew or trade?

  • NewYorkMammoths

    Another move I like.

  • Destry

    And there’s a good chance they put up similar numbers this year

  • NewYorkMammoths

    Here’s hoping we pick up Tanaka in the same way in a few years.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Try DVRing the games. I fast forward through commercials and even certain at bats. It shortens the amount of time I spend watching most games.

  • Destry

    I agree. I think he is gonna be our 5th starter. Mejia is coming off surgery……again, and will probably make a couple of starts in Vegas. Mejia has one option left.

  • Vin

    I understand depth in pitching is key and they may just keep what they got, but it looks more and more to me like the Mets are gearing up for a trade between now and mid June. It at least opens the possibility of pairing a nearly ready pitcher (DeGrom or Montero) with one of Ike, Duda, or Tejada to get a better return, particularly if the players are having a decent spring / start of the season.

  • EzRider

    Trade, Trade, Tradey-Trade trade.

  • Destry

    I think we have to sign Drew. He would already be signed to a 4/$48 deal if it wasn’t for the QO attachment and subsequent loss of a 1st RD pick for the team that signs him. We only lose a 3rd rd pick.

  • Destry

    I hope we don’t ever make the mistake of signing any pitcher to a 7/$155million contract.

  • WillisReid

    I’m radio only. Too nice to be inside for 4 hours a day that time of year.

  • NewYorkMammoths

    No — I mean here’s hoping we get Tanaka for league minimum after he’s a bust with the Yankees.

  • diehardmets

    Good signing. Excess rotation depth will allow us to trade a pitcher mid season, when teams are most desperate.

  • Matt Mosher

    Solid

  • WillisReid

    If Syndergaard and Montero are as advertised, I could see a pitcher like Gee being traded at the deadline. He would stand to get another raise next year and if he’s pitching as well as he did last year, he could bring back a nice return at the deadline.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Yankees sign Tanaka we sign Dice-BB….Sigh….

  • WillisReid

    $177mm for minor league depth seems excessive.

  • Bill Buckner

    Great…from Trachsel to Pelfrey to Dice-K…

    Why do we always have to have an SP that takes 3 hours to get to the 5th inning? I really hope there are no injuries to the rotation just so I don’t ever have to see him pitch again…

  • Destry

    If anything, this just means that Mejia will make a couple of starts at AAA to see how his arms reacts coming off yet another surgery. Last season, Santana, Mejia, & Marcum were on the DL before the season started, and Niese, Harvey & Hefner joined them later in the season. We will need Colon, Niese, Gee, Wheeler, Dice-K, Mejia & Lannan just to get us through June when Thor & Montero are called up, and both will be on innings limits. Thor is not going to pitch more than 150-160 IP this year, and Mejia hasn’t thrown more than 100 in any season. I can’t see him even getting to 150 IP. 125 maybe. If we get 20 starts from Mejia, I’ll be very pleasantly surprised. I think Wheeler is also on a 175 limit in 2014, which means he will most likely make around 25 starts.
    If Gee & Niese remain healthy and make every one of their starts this season that would still leave almost 100 starts for everyone else, and the chances of Niese making every single start is between slim & none. I think Colon make 20 starts and gets traded at the deadline.
    Gee-32
    Niese-25
    Wheeler-25
    Colon-20
    Syndergaard-10
    Montero-15
    Mejia-15
    Dice-K-10
    Lannan-5
    deGrom-2
    Torres-2

  • Destry

    Agreed. I think Colon gets moved at the deadline, and Gee gets moved in the offseason.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Why trade a pitcher that has pitched well for you in consecutive years who is fairly young???

    Would successful teams like the Cardinals, Red Sox, Braves, Giants, Yankees, etc do this?

    Or is that something that low revenue teams like the Rays do, purely out of necessity …just to keep their heads above water…because they cant AFFORD said player.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Did you say the same thing about Yu Darvish?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    bye bye Harvey, Wheeler, Syndeegard, Montero come their free agency time. If they are as advertised

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    AMEN! to that

  • WillisReid

    I’d do it simply because Syndergaard and Meija have far higher ceilings than Gee. They could probably do the same with Niese. However if Gee is pitching well and you can only have a 5 man rotation, why wouldn’t a smart team capitalize?

    Those teams you mentioned don’t do it because they are usually in the hunt. If the Mets somehow are, they probably wouldn’t trade either.

  • Destry

    Oh. Yes. I’m with ya there my man.

  • BCleveland3381

    It all depends. Im done trading proven talent for prospects. But Im fine with trading them to fill MLB holes. If Gee or Gee + a prospect gets us a young, controllable MLB shortstop, then it makes sense.

  • Destry

    Hello the next batch of early 20’s Harvey, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Montero when we trade them as their declining and before they bust the payroll wide open.

  • WillisReid

    The didn’t sign Dice K to be the staff ace.

  • HawkZon

    I agree, why does everyone want to trade Gee, I like him.

  • Hodges14

    It’s a minor league deal. You’re not going to see him unless something else goes wrong first.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Id rather not trade a Gee or Niese unless I know what I have in a Montero, Syndegaard, Mejia, Wheeler etc.

    Beforehand Im going to need to see them pitch a full season successfully before I give away a proven pitcher whom has had success for me.

    Pitching is expensive….So if I trade a solid arm away and these kids are shaky its gonna cost us.

  • HawkZon

    “Mets Sign Dice-K To A Minor League Deal”Please, make him wear a different number!

  • WillisReid

    I think SS makes the most sense. Gives them a couple months to “evaluate” Tejada too:-)

  • Andrew Herbst

    I like that we signed Dice-K to a minor league deal. He pitched well at the end of last year. It always helps to have pitching depth.

  • Hodges14

    The thing with Niese is you have trade him during the brief periods between injuries. Timing is everything.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Smh…Im glad you think its that easy to churn them out….

    You should sell your secrets to some of these MLB teams youd be rich…

    In only took us close to 3 decades to re-up from the days of Doc, Darling, Cone etc.

    We saw what the next batch of 20’s did when Doc and company were out the door…..

    Does GEN-K ring a bell???

  • WillisReid

    I like him too. But I heard winning is awesome and I’d like to try that at some point. If you think Gee is far better than any of Harvey, Wheeler, Syndergaard, Meija, Niese or Colon. Then I see your point. And that’s still 6 starting pitchers.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Uhm yeah…..THATS WHAT HE SAID O_o

  • somedude718

    – The Mets sign Dice-K
    – No we didn’t
    – Dice-K signing called a hoax by Mets brass.
    – J/K, yeah we did.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    And I wasnt referring to Tanaka as 177mm minor league depth

  • WillisReid

    But that is what the Mets need at this point, so why hammer them for not signing Tanaka?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Winning???

    Dude what do you care about winning, if youre talking about TRADING Gee midseason?!?!?!

    Thats asinine, buddy.

    Teams whom trade away players[PITCHING especially] at the deadline arent WINNING games….

    That means you had another horrible season and you sucked.

    smh……Unbelievable

  • WillisReid

    This is a .500 team in 2014. The Mets need a long term answer at SS. By next year there are as many as 8 guys that could be in the Mets starting rotation and there is salary cap in Flushing. Do the math.

    Or does a 7 man rotation and Tejada at SS make the Mets a better team?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I wasnt hammering them for not signing Tanaka…Im hammering them for the sad sack state we are in….where a Matsuzaka signing is seen as a awesome thing….

    The dude couldnt crack the Indians rotation last year and they were practically giving him the job.

    He pitched a couple of solid games in Sept after some historically brutal starts for the Mets and all of a sudden to some he is the cats pajamas.

    This guy sucks if he makes it on to the field in Citi before Sept callups, all that means is…..we are DOOMED!

  • WillisReid

    It’s a depth signing. It’s a good move because he’s better than Aaron Laffey for the same price, or Marcum for a LOT less.

  • It only took this long because he only just finished his warmup session that started back in October.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    I did the Math and it says

    You = MLB2K mentality

    This isnt a video game, thats not how it works.

    Who the hell do you think is going to trade the Mets a long term SS for Niese or Gee???

    They invested heavily in the draft and internationally to acquire a long term SS…In Cecchini and Rosario they arent going to give up a pitching asset to acquire another prospect SS.

    And no one is trading an established stud SS for Niese or Gee. And Alderson isnt giving up any prospects to acquire that kind of talent…

    The guy offered the D’Backs RUBEN TEJADA for Justin Upton.

    He offered Ike Davis for a TOP PITCHING PROSPECT!!!

    LMAO…He cant make a decent trade unless he has an allstar caliber player to give away.

  • Bill Buckner

    Haha! Brilliant!

    BTW, glad you found your way over from betsmlog…

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    So thats your defense?

    He’s better than the last bum Alderson brought in…smh

    Newsflash! Finding an upgrade over Laffey isnt a tough task.

  • omar minayass

    low-risk move, bleh. of all the roster spots on this team, i think 5th starter ranks 25th out of 25 in terms of importance.

  • That was good. 🙂

  • Taskmaster4450

    When did Dice K have his TJ surgery? Was it two years ago or three?

    If it was two years ago, there might be a surprise in order. It is not uncommon for guys to struggle their first year after TJ surgery as strength is built up. If it was three years ago, well what we saw last season might be all Dice K is.

  • Taskmaster4450

    Meanwhile Drew still sits by the phone waiting.

  • WillisReid

    Gee is good and we should keep him in a rotation that will have Harvey, Wheeler, Synergaard, Meija Niese,and Colon, but he isn’t good enough to fetch an upgrade to Tejada?

    Mind you by next year Gee will be the 2nd most expensive pitcher in the rotation and probably 4th or 5th best. He’s a solid starter and could be in the starting 5 in most rotations. And he could be packaged in a trade. Detroit got Inglesias from Boston for a AAA OF prospect.

    This is the benefit of being pitching rich.

  • DrDooby

    Trading Walt Terrell for HoJo didn’t hurt the Mets after 1984, though to be fair, that wasn’t done in-season. Gee has a partially torn labrum and is a finesse pitcher who is a # 4 type SP. Which has value as these type of pitchers are getting 8 to 10 million per year. But if someone pays a significant price for him and room needs to be opened, Gee is a prime candidate.

  • Taskmaster4450

    How many teams go through a season with only 5 starters?

    Very few. Pitchers tend to get hurt that is why depth is so important. Look at last season: 40% of the starting rotation didnt make it out of ST. Couple that with the fact Niese and Harvey also saw stints on the DL and you see how 80% of the staff was lost for some time.

  • omar minayass

    lol that is really funny

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    lol

  • WillisReid

    I understand your point and completely agree. But who on that list would be going back to AAA for depth? They would still have a guy like deGrom there, any young arms who may have been promoted and the depth signings.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Not saying they should be potential targets for the Mets but Drew isnt the only forgotten man in free agency

    There are 2 other guys who that Qualifying offer tag is killing

    1. Nelson Cruz(His market went silent)
    2. Kendry Morales

    I wonder if the MLBPA will look to change that qualifying offer setup. Its really hurting the market for guys who get hit with it. Especially since teams cant go overslot in the draft.

  • WillisReid

    And they did. I don’t think anyone is doing backflips over it.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Detroit traded one of their TOP PROSPECTS for Iglesias…To be exact he was their #2 prospect.

    And Iglesias isnt a stud SS he is similar to Rey Ordonez all glove little bat

  • WillisReid

    So “a pitcher that has pitched well for you in consecutive years who is fairly young???” Has such little value compared to a prospect with 0 big league experience?

  • Bail4Nails

    “Mets Sign Great Shortstop to Major League Deal!”– still waiting for this headline.

  • WillisReid

    I think there needs to be a great FA SS available.

  • Bail4Nails

    Aledmys Diaz (though he’s not available until 2/19). I’m willing to wait.

  • WillisReid

    Oh, I though you actually meant great:-)

  • I guess I should care, but depth signings for a 74 win team are even less exciting then depth signings for winning teams. This just means unless Montero and deGrom are lights out, we might not see them until late June. Syndergaard?? Maybe September.

  • SRT

    Good pickup for depth.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Schneck,

    Four stars on that one!

  • Xavier 22

    Woof!

  • HuntBoyer66

    Glad they got him. I’m surprised the Phillies didn’t go after him after he beat Hamels last September.

  • Just_Da_damaja

    since we’re all about WINNING and bringing back top talent for low cost ( esp since Gee’s salary is gonna go up )…

    how about we consider trading David Wright ?

    ( ducks )

  • Captain America

    Like it – let’s hope he wins more games in 2014 than Tanaka

  • vigouge

    He had it in June 2011.

  • Joey D.

    Hi Task,

    It was in June, 2011 if that helps. But what has me worried is that he still pitches using that inverted W motion and that can spell trouble at any time.

  • Taskmaster4450

    I would say that the QO gets eliminated in the next CBA whenever that is negotiated.

    What will be really interesting is whether some players accept it next season. Thus far, every player turned the QO down. Will that happen again?

  • KennyandtheMets

    I hope they do make a move like you are talking about. However, I don’t really see the Dice K signing as a sign that it would be more likely.

  • WillisReid

    Would have made more sense becore they spent on Granderson and Colon IMO. But the Mets FO should be listening on everyone.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Good addition

  • JerseyCityMetsFan

    And an actual SS

  • peter

    74 win team? You are smoking the good stuff my man. this team wins 85 games this year, possibly more if they add midseason which they will just internally with Montero, Syndergaurd, and a host of others. This team could easily surprise buddy.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Montero and Ynoa for Owings?

  • peter

    Well wait till next year cause if you think Drew is great then you should not even be on a blog, you should be reading baseball for dummies.

  • MLBGM Fire TC

    Agree

  • BehindTheBag

    Great signing. You can do a heckuva lot worse trying to build depth.

  • peter

    Interesting, especially since most teams use way more than 5 starters in a season and the ones with quality depth usually do well. St Louis has 9 quality starters. Now the Mets have 10. You can never have enough pitching!!!!!!! Come on now Number one starters get approximately 32 starts, number 5 starters also get around that many starts. It is important during a 162 game season.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I hate to say it, but I think the Yankees will sign Drew. He can play 3B or 2B and is also insurance behind Jeter at SS. Now that they have blown up their luxury tax situation, I think they will go all out.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I watch the game in less than an hour on DVR.

  • peter

    They are looking into it, but the presen agreement is for 2 years.

  • Sandy Alderson faux

    GREAT SIGNING!! Lannan, Quintanilla, C. Young, NOW, Dice-K!

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    And a Heckuva lot BETTER as well

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Dont forget BRANDON ALLEN 😉

    He is the 2nd coming of Dick Allen………….If only he could make the bat touch the ball

  • KennyandtheMets

    Who?

  • KennyandtheMets

    Quintanilla and Young I don’t like. Lannan and Dice K feel like good moves to me.

  • KennyandtheMets

    I’m not saying Drew is great, but he is above average on both sides of the field. Calling someone a dummie for wanting Drew seems unnecessary to me.

  • BCleveland3381

    Chris Young on it’s own I don’t mind. He is a guy that has put up numbers and on a one year deal, its little risk. But when you think could have put the money we spent on him towards Stephen Drew and we could have put EY in the OF, C Young doesn’t make much sense. I would MUCH rather have Eric Young and Stephen Drew starting over Chris Young and Tejada.

  • BehindTheBag

    Ummm….if a player was significantly better than Dice-K, he’s not signing for a non-guaranteed Minor League deal. And if this mystery man you want to sign gets his guaranteed deal, then he’s blocking the anticipated promotion of Montero and Syndergaard, and leaving us little flexibility.

    I wish we had signed Tanaka – I think he’s going to have a great career, and at his age, he’s a good risk. But we’re not a big market team anymore, so we have to do more careful roster building. And that means don’t lock in to fringy veterans when you have a pipeline of great young arms knocking on the door.

    Seems obvious to me, but what do I know.

  • BCleveland3381

    The thing about Dice K is he’s really not even a high upside guy. At least Lannan isn’t likely to completely implode. Dice K had one good year in his entire career, and that was 6 years ago. He’s been terrible since then. Terrible as in 2 years with an ERA under 5.00, and that’s counting last year’s 7 starts with the Mets. It’s fine because its pretty likely he’ll never throw a pitch in the majors, but I don’t have much faith.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    What does the “K” in Dice-K stand for???

    KILLING TIME!!!

    jajajajajajajaja……….. =D

    I feel sorry for the guy who has to catch his games…Trachsel all over again.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    AGREED

  • goorru

    I hate to break it to everyone but pitching is NOT the hot commodity anymore, hitting is. Sandy has not done a good job to fill the minors or the major leagues with viable position players.

  • AJF

    This guy better not be in the starting rotation come opening day I better see one of the young guys but knowing Terry I doubt it

  • goorru

    Mostly agree, but Syndergaard will be up earlier than September. The delusions of winter have clearly hit many thinking this is a good team that Sandy put together.

  • The Mets signed Dice-K last year looking for someone to give them innings and after a poor start we know he ended up giving the Mets that with 4 good starts in which the team wound up winning as well including a big loss for the Reds to end their season.
    I suspect the Mets will be looking for Dice-K to give them innings once again in 2014 if needed and if Dice-K also happens to manage to keep the Mets in the game as he did in those last 4 starts in 2013 well, regardless of how long it takes that is just fine by me.

  • EzRider

    How about Parnell, DeGrom and Mazzoni or Leathersitch or Walters FOR N. Franklin and Carlos Puegero.

  • MyasDaddy

    Plain and simple. It’s all about having arms. We know Dice-K is not the long term solution. It just gives an option in case someone gets hurt. Nothing wrong with the signing, would love to see someone a Mejia, Montero, deGrom, step in and take the #5 spot.

  • BCleveland3381

    We’ll see about some of the pitchers as well. My guess is Ubaldo Jimenez will be added to that list.

  • Out of place Met fan

    Exactly!. The Mets used 12 different starters last season, if Dice is this years Laffey they are in much better shape rotation wise. The current rotation with Mejia will not get 1000 innings in total, Dice easting 80-100 of those is not a bad thing

  • MyasDaddy

    Agreed. At the same time I just want more ya know? Like I just want this team to continue the momentum from the Grandy signing. Do something!

  • SRT

    TC might have some input, but the decision on the OD 25 man roster is made by the FO.

    I would hope that Mejia gets the nod for the 5th SP spot, if he’s healthy and ready to go.

  • Waz0787

    Yes!!!!!!!!

  • Super T

    I disagree with your first sentence, but agree with your second. You can never have enough pitching, but Sandy has done a poor job to date of obtaining viable position players.

  • Bail4Nails

    I have shown Diaz’s numbers here before. Below is a report on Diaz’s comparisons from an objective source. It might change your mind about him. I’m okay with Drew, or trading for Jose Ramirez (Indians) or Chris Owings (Arizona). However, Diaz can be bought for 4 years, probably near Drew’s 2-year price, without trading prospects or giving up draft picks. I think it’s worth a shot at this kid. Check this out:
    http://www.obstructedview.net/news-and-rumors/dariel-Alvarez-stats-Aledmis-Diaz-stats-and-Cuban-comparisons.html

  • Wolfmicky21

    Countering the tanaka signing brilliantly

  • pastline63

    If he is back in form this is a steal and a major coup for Alderson-minor league deal nothing lost, but much to gain.

  • metsman

    Being in my little Mets fox hole I haven’t really noticed how other teams have done over the recent years with diamonds in the rough, but between Dickey and Byrd I’m almost expecting us to pull another rabbit out of our hat again. How common is it for teams to find players like that on a year by year basis? I guess you could, by a lesser extent, add Izzy to that equation. Perhaps it was a September mirage, but Dice K seems primed to take on that role…if only we weren’t already expecting big things from Mejia.

  • Pedro’s Rooster

    Great to see you over here, old friend!

  • metsman

    The middle infield depth is atrocious…it’s really hard to believe Omar Q was the best they could come up with…I like that they resigned him on a minor league contract but it wouldn’t hurt to add some more outliers or trade for some C/B upper level prospects.

  • metsman

    I think you mean “ding”!

  • BCleveland3381

    At some point, we gotta spend. We have had a few diamonds in the rough, but that’s because we’ve had so many cheap players in recent history. We can’t afford the best players, so we shop from the bargain bin and hope for the best.

  • Joey D.

    Hi BCleveland,

    Agreed. One of the many points we’ve been making about having limited resources and thus not using it wisely.

  • Destry

    That’s because we spent the least amount of money on the draft as anyone in baseball for a decade. Kinda hard to “churn em out” under that structure. Free agency is the worst possible place to spend your money. Your are 10 x more likely to obtain continued success if you put your money into scouting and player development.

  • Joey D.

    Hi BehindTheBag,

    I like the signing of Dice-K but like others, wish there were more poignant steps the Mets were able to take besides this one.

    What this means is because of the money we spent on Colon and CYJ though we aren’t able to sign a Tanaka we also cant do any better than a Dice K at this point.

  • Destry

    Man, I hope not. He will hit 25 bombs easy at that little league field. He had 50 xbh last year in 124 G

    .275/.350/.475 30-2Bs 5-3Bs 25-HRs 85-RBIs

    If the Yankees sign him.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Who closes for Parnell? Does Seattle need a closer? I’m not sure that Parnell’s value is that high right now, given his neck injury from last year. I think he would need to pitch well for a month or two. Maybe in June? Also, Franklin is listed as a 2B. He only played 3 games at SS last year. He went back and forth between 2B and SS in the minors. Nice offensive numbers, especially if he can play a decent SS.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Like I said, I hated saying it. I agree with you about his numbers at that bandbox in the Bronx.

  • omar minayass

    i hear where you’re coming from, but u said it urself. most teams use 8-10 starters over the course of the year, so what difference does it make if you have a solid 5th starter? there will always be 2-3 other options available in the farm

  • mikeb

    Wow. This is a good move. Can’t believe no one gave him a major league shot, but I suppose this makes senses. He’s 33, a lot younger than a bunch of guys still doing okay, and with how he finished last year, I see this as a steal. He’s always had movement, but nibbled too much. Warthen seemed to straighten him out. Great pickup, IMO. I bet he sticks, and wouldn’t be surprised if he is above #5 as the season progresses.

  • metsman

    Are you suggesting we spend a significant amount on a starting pitcher to compete with Mejia…or you referring to something else?

  • EzRider

    Really would be contingent on the Mets signing Rodney. Otherwise take out Parnell and DeGrom and Go with Montero (not that i want him to go mind you) and two others for Franklin and Puegero. Franklin could play and has played SS, more offensive type player but not a glove hack and a better upgrade/placeholder than what we have now (outside D. Muno), and Puegero was , i believe, designated for assignment and sort of stagnating in the minors with SEA. Nice power and could become the LH portion of a platoon with CBY.

    As far as SEA closer. As of right now they have guys to close like Wilhelmsen and Farquhar and even Medina. Bobby could become another really good option for them. As to his neck woes? Well Bobby seems to think he is fine and has resumed some baseball activity so that seems like a good sign. Outside that IDK.

  • EzRider

    Yeah, start spending the money to lock up our young players to long term deals now. Hope the financial or ownership situation gets fixed in the coming years so we can then supplement the already established talent while trading away/offering arbitration to aging vets to recoup draft picks/prospects. OR trade away our young talent before they hit free agency to restock the farm and keep the pipeline of talent flowing.

    I know this was supposed to be “The Year” but it can’t all be fixed in one offseason. So far we are off to a good start. 2nd tier FA that are still good FA signings along with those one year/minor league deals that they hope perform well or add organizational depth. I really don’t think this offseason would have gone any differently had Harvey not been injured. Maybe and i do mean MAYBE they would have been more inclined to move a starter for a stud SS/LO guy or real clean-up hitter but i don’t think so.

  • Destry

    That would probably serve us right, considering 85% of our fanbase thinks Drew “sucks”

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    -Tommy Hanson(2yrs removed from being a stud)
    -James McDonald(Worst case longman out the pen)
    -Jair Jurrjens(Same as McDonald)
    -Clayton Richardson(
    -Jeff Niemann(wont be ready to copete in ST but a solid arm to have in the stable in season)

    Better options than Dice

  • pastline63

    If he is in form it’s a pure steal. Your right if he sticks he could be a solid 2 or 3.

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Uh, there are no mystery men and it wouldnt warrant a guaranteed deal to get either of THEM…Yes, there are multiple guys out there whom are better and have more upside than the Great Matsuzaka on a minors deal w/an invite to camp. Mets fans always gets enamored with a guy after he gives them a snall sample size of production(see SP Chris Young).

    Tommy Hanson (2yrs removed from being a stud)
    James McDonald(Worst case longman out the pen)
    Jair Jurrjens(Same as McDonald)
    Clayton Richardson(LHP is a plus w/all the Lefty hitters we’ll be facing)
    Jeff Niemann(wont be ready to compete in ST but a solid arm to have in the stable in season)

    Im all for the playing the rookies and all but im not going to be naive by fooling myself into believing we’ll have all these prospects up and pitching in the rotation striving w/ no issues all at once

    Mejia I love this kid but he has NEVER pitched 100 innings in a season in his ENTIRE CAREER…He will DEFINITELY be on an innings limit a few years removed from serious arm injury.
    Montero Will be on an innings limit regardless
    DeGrom Will also be on an innings limit…
    Syndegaard We wont see him til the end of the year, IF he isnt shutdown(INNINGS LIMIT)

    Now take a good look at our rotation

    Colon Will he hold up for the full season at age 41yrs old?
    Niese Lets face it he is somewhat injury prone. Always misses significant time
    Gee Your safest bet to pitch 200innings in 2013 he fell short 1 inning last year.
    Wheeler He pitched 168.2 innings last year between AAA & the majors so he will be allowed to reach around 200in but how effective will he be? Will he tire towards the end like most prospects in their 1st full season?
    5th Rotation SpotUp for grabs Mejia, Montero, Matsuzaka, Lannan, DeGrom…

    Our rotation is still shaky at best for 2014…sure we have promising arms for the “FUTURE” but what about now 2014?

  • BadBadLeroyBrown

    Matsuzaka, a 2 or 3!?!

    Oh boy

  • KennyandtheMets

    In not sure that it is 85%, but there are a lot of folks who seem to underrate him.

  • KennyandtheMets

    Ok. Those are all solid options. Do you think any of them would sign a minor league deal?

  • Destry

    I may have exaggerated a touch.

  • Anthony

    I get the signing I just hope we don’t see him pitch at the mlb level

  • Anthony

    Law of averages in regards to mets staying healthy. We will see Q playing significant number of games at ss with the current depth at the position.

  • Bail4Nails

    Anyone else think our weak lineup affects our pitchers every year? When the team is not scoring runs, the pitcher is working that much harder for 6 innings, trying to win the game with every pitch. I honestly think our lack of run production had an effect on Harvey’s injury.
    Pitching depth is great, but having a good lineup is also great. Throwing with a lead is a little less taxing than trying to pitch a 1-0 win every time out.
    Stop signing crusty vets, and get us a leadoff hitter!

  • Timmy Tuff

    Jacob DeGrom will be 26 this June. I’d rather see what this kid can do than waste our time with Dice BB. We already have four starters, Lannan for depth, Syndergaard coming up in July, and plenty of young arms in DeGrom, Mejia and Montero. Dice BB is just impeding someone’s progress…..

  • BehindTheBag

    Degrom has upside, but he pitched to a 4.5+ ERA in AA and AAA next year. Mejia and Montero have even more upside but are also unproven, and Mejia’s got a history of arm trouble. So while I agree I like some of our other options better than Dice-K, you can never have enough arms. And I’d rather be giving the ball to Dice-K than guys like the dearly departed McHugh and other such scrubs.

    Not to mention, there’s an outside chance that Warthen’s work with him, which paid dividends in his last 3 starts of the year, carries over to this season and he’s actually a guy who can help us.

  • Biggle Boy

    It would be good if Dice’s minor league contract does not include an opt-out. If Lannan does not go north after ST, he can opt out by June. I’d love to have Dice-K available all year, to give us the 8-9 starter depth we need.

  • BehindTheBag

    All 5 of those guys are in the same pool with, in my opinion, no more or less upside than a guy like Dice-K. Players like this generally have multiple teams willing to take a flyer, so they can choose their destination. Usually they want to stay close to home…or with an organization they know…or in a place with their best chance of making the big club.

    Dice-K, as a deep option at starting pitcher on a low risk deal, is a great fit. Not to mention that there’s at least some chance that his success last year in his final few starts carries over to this season.

  • BehindTheBag

    Even though combined next year Colon and CY will make about as much as Tanaka, it was the 7 years, $155M total for a single player that scared us off. We don’t have that kind of muscle anymore.

    We have to nibble around the edges, taking Yankee leftovers who strikout too much (Grandy), old, fat PED users coming off good seasons (Colon), and reclamation projects a few years removed from their last good season (CY).

    Choo, Ellsbury, Cano or Tanaka would have gone a long way to making our team better. But we’re just not a big market franchise anymore…

  • Alex68

    #Championship

  • Joey D.

    Hi BehindTheBag,

    Love it that you got Stewie as your picture ID!

  • mytoemytoe

    Pennies on the dollar, my friends. Spared no expense!

    – Sandy Alderson

  • We were a 74 win team in 2013. Therefore when we’re making signings in 2013-2014 offseason, it is as a 74 win team. This is the crux of my comment. When you have only won 74 games, you lose your ace, and you lose your biggest OF bat, signings have to be more than depth and more than status quo.

    Can the Mets surprise in 2014?? Oh I certainly hope so. But to expect it?? Looking at the roster, looking at the division, looking at the rest of the National League?? To expect 85 wins is too much for me.

  • Oh I hope so; I hope he’s up before September. But right now, I count Mejia, Lannan, Matsuzaka, deGrom all firmly ahead of him. Now I know injuries happen. I also know ineffectiveness happens, and I know the kid could be ready sooner rather than later. However, looking at his innings limit, looking at the Mets careful work to manipulate arb clocks, and hearing the Mets will start him on a regular schedule (as opposed to delaying his start of the season) and are considering some MLB bullpen duty means I could see them letting go full tilt until the end of July, shutting him down and sending him to Florida for August, before debuting in September.

  • Pike Miazza

    I assumed this would happen after the small sampling of success he had in sept. Cant hurt to sign him to a MLC….who knows, maybe he pitches lights out in ST & makes the team…..crazier things have happened

  • mad met

    100% BUD …as does great fielding

  • mad met

    Mccann and beltran or mccann and cano would have been nice for christmas … every year i buy my entire family the new met player jersey and t. My choices this year were young colon and granderson .everyone got gift cards this year

  • mad met

    Not so sure about this one .they seem to have money for one and two year deals.think it is just the long term stuff that scares them

  • mad met

    Would be nice .but we will be lucky to score 3 runs in most games .. the yankee lineup will keep him ahead in wins .as will the Dh

  • mad met

    Allstar break bud

  • mad met

    That was when they signed reyes

  • mad met

    Cant be worse than the guy that had to go to fat camp

  • Captain America

    Tanaka will give up the ding dongs if he thinks he Dan blow past the power hitters in the usa