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2013
Spinsanity! Collins Calls Valdespin A Changed Man, Says He’ll Bat Leadoff!
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Mets manager Terry Collins was a guest on WFAN this afternoon and lets just say that his whole demeanor about outfielder Jordany Valdespin has done a complete 180. Collins said that Valdespin is the leading candidate to hit in the leadoff spot for the Mets on Opening Day and whenever the Mets are facing a righthanded pitcher.
“Right now, the way Valdespin has been swinging the bat in that spot, we’re leaning towards him,” Collins told Mike Francesa. “As of right now, that’s what we’re looking at.”
Valdespin has been scorching the ball and in 14 games he is hitting .341/.386/.634 with four home runs and eight RBIs. Spin has struck out just twice all spring.
“He’s really worked at the pitch selection,” Collins said. “He’s got a nice idea at the plate, he makes pitchers work. He can bunt for a hit and he can hit a homer. He’s not getting very many easy, first-pitch fastballs.”
Collins even went as far as saying that he has become a threat to take the starting left-field job from Lucas Duda if he continues to produce. Wow…
“His whole demeanor has been a great surprise,” Collins said.
“I just think that, probably, there was some place along the line — maybe at the end of last year — where I know David Wright had a conversation after the guys cut up his shirt and he got upset. I know David took him out and kind of settled him down, and maybe he’s grown up a bit, because he’s certainly been impressive down here.”
Sandy Alderson said adding a difference-maker or two would be his offseason goal for the 2013 season. While it seems he came up short in that department, maybe Omar Minaya left him one in Jordany Valdespin.
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The Captain at work!!!
“Collins even went as far as saying that he has become a threat to take the starting left-field job from Lucas Duda if he continues to produce”
*drops to knees*
THERE IS A GOD!!!!
Im more afraid of them trading Ike and shifting Duda to 1B….
Why the hell would they do that?
There is no way that the Mets will trade Ike Davis and then moving Duda to first base. Duda’s a weak defender anywhere whereas Davis is a very good first baseman. The Mets feel that if Duda stops trying to pull everything that he can hit . 275 with 20 plus homers, He certainly could hit more with his natural power but he must be more selective.
Davis stays at first and Duda gets to keep himself in left field by having a good start come opening day.
Great news! It’s about time they stopped messing with this kid’s head and just let him play.
Captain Underpants to the rescue!
Since he is batting leadoff…
JV1 is now known as Major Mangu to you mr…
Marcum hurt again?
From MB:
“Terry Collins told reporters Marcum suffers this injury every spring, and expects him to start either on March 25 or 26.”
http://metsblog.com/metsblog/shaun-marcum-received-cortisone-injection-for-a-right-shoulder-impingement/
I wouldn’t get too too worried yet. Wait until he goes to the DL to panic.
at least it is just a smallish $ 1 year deal with incentives, so if he does break down, they aren’t stuck with him as a drag on the team going forward.
Gotta admit, I like the idea of him at leadoff. Having someone with power leading off, like Reyes and, before him, Henderson is nice.
Honestly, I gave up on this kid last year despite some of his heroics and the thrills he provided.
I was ready to dislike him even more given the attitude stories, his infamous wearing of the Marlins cap, etc.
But, Hell, I’m ready to be a big time booster for Spin. May the kid live long and prosper as a New York Met!!!
Like to see #1 bat 1
I just hope they commit to him and don’t platoon him. Having him sit out 2 games a week isn’t going to help him. I’d rather him play full time in Vegas for a few weeks rather than part time it on the big club.
sitting him 2 games a week, isn’t going to hurt him either…
that’s 1/3 of the season though. It doesn’t seem like much, but it does add up. Let ‘Spin get his reps.
While Collins did say he is going to bat leadoff (which I’m not sure I agree with, but that’s not that important right now), he did not say he was going to play everyday.
Would love for him to eventually take over at 2B though since I’ve seen enough from Flores to know he can’t play that position full time.
Murphy is about to Wally Pipd’. YES!
Valdespin might just have the personality to bat lead-off. Nothing wrong with your lead off guy hitting for power. Tommy Agee hit for power and struck out more than his fair share, but he always seemed to make things happen when they mattered most.
Remember when he scored from second on a wild pitch, with Bob Murphy saying, “Randy Hundley is jumping up ‘n down, up n’ dowwwwwn…”
New nickname = Spin City.
If he starts he should start in right, Cowgill should start in center, and Duda in left, Bryd can play vs lefties.
Got a feeling Duda will be traded before next season and JV will be leftfieder. Den Dekker Will be in Center, and they will go get power in right. Cowgill will come off the bench and hit vs lefties. Of course if Duda mashes 30 homers he is safe. I guess this is why we play the games. Let them start on the corners and see who sticks. Byrd is 35 and is not the future, he should be coming off the bench.
Spin not doing anything tonight to lose his job. the dude is on fire.
Yup, it’s a foregone conclusion now he’s a lock to go north, IMO.
I’m cautiously optimistic about him now. I previously thought he’d never hit consistently enough to be a starter but I’m willing to admit he might just be proving me wrong – which would be fine by me.
I saw that apparently Terry also said they won’t play him at 2B even if Murphy is out, so he would have to fight for PT in the OF instead? All so they can play Turner? WHat is the love with that guy?
I don’t get the love for Turner either. RH bat maybe? IDK, but to me Turner is expendable or at least redundant.
must be the grission factor.
Shocked that no comment by Alex68
I think thats great news especially the talk about the attitude change….
Never doubted the kids ability but had reservations about him sticking due to the attitude…
I forget if it was Hitman or Hotstreak but WELL PLAYED if this happens!
Jordany has a lot of upside, but only had a .286 OBP last season, and .330 lifetime in the minors. Pitch selection and patience will make or break his ability to lead off.
It would be comforting to hear Terry Collins admit he was wrong. That would be a changed man move there.
What was he wrong about, regarding Valdespin?
Collins was wrong about Valdespin. That’s the bottom line. He doesn’t like the guy and has given excuses for not giving him playing time. Last year, he held Valdespin back. He’s making one of the top prospects we have “earn” his way on a terrible team loaded with below average players.
Clearly you have not been paying attention, Valdespin got himself in trouble multiple times, while in the minors, that has nothing to do with Collins. He built his own bad reputation by his own actions.
Collins recognizing that he has changed and/or has matured is the right thing to do, Collins was not wrong.
Clearly, you don’t seem to understand this isn’t grade school or the military. This is a professional baseball league. Talent is all that matters and not manners. I want a player who can hit and catch a baseball. The rest of the non-baseball yip-yap is more for women who like to gossip. Collins appears to be a miserable old woman with a gripe. Not playing Valdespin last year was criminal. Management shouldn’t allow an apparently frustrated old goat like Collins to stymie the development of talented young players.
WOW – coming from a guy that makes false claims about racism
“The rest of the non-baseball yip-yap is more for women who like to gossip. Collins appears to be a miserable old woman with a gripe. “
Hey a little sexism never hurt anyone right?
Ask Keith how he feels about that.
Keith happened to be right, though lol
I think ultimately he was jealous. In his day no one had cute female massage therapists in the locker room or dugout, they had to make do with an 8-ball and beer.
“It would be comforting to hear Terry Collins admit he was wrong. That would be a changed man move there”
How so? He never once stated that Spin couldn’t play. His gripe was with his attitude not his ability. He was far from alone on this issue.
And just who is Collins, who can’t speak a lick of Spanish, to say Jordany has an “attitude” problem? The last time I checked, this wasn’t the military. It’s a professional baseball league. Collins has long had a history of battling players. On a team filled with below average players, he decides to target his venom on a flamboyant kid with a TON of talent. Talk about wasting talent.
What does speaking spanish have to do with anything?
Since Jordany doesn’t speak English well, does Collins become telepathic around him? I would love to know how Collins knows what Jordany feels or thinks out there. Obviously, there’s non-verbal things Jordany does. Things which have nothing to do with baseball. Collins should concern himself with how well Jordany catches and hits a baseball than how he acts off the field. He doesn’t exactly have a playoff team on the field.
Makes sense if you ignore the fact that no other spanish speaking player had the same problem. Besides in every interview I’ve heard Jordany spoke very good english with only a slight accent, he’s done a hell of a job learning english so I pretty damn sure it’s not a language problem. It might be, and I’m just going out on wild limb here, that he has had issues in the past that Collins, in his previous role would be quite familiar with, that combined with a couple things last year might contributed to the view that Valdespin had attitude problems and it’s nice to see that he hasn’t had such problems this spring and has been recognized as not having problems.
Valdespin’s problem is he is an arrogant kid who thinks he can play. And “interview” English, where lines are all choreographed for media responses, isn’t true communicating. The only time he will speak English in all likelihood. That doesn’t mean Collins and Valdespin will have this impeccable communique. And Jordany’s natural arrogance is misunderstood by a man who really has no business managing younger players.
You say arrogance like it’s a good thing.
Seems to me that Valdespin has lost some of that arrogance this spring and has started to turn into that talented and confident kid that he’s always had the potential to be. If only that geriatric Collins would pull his head from his depends, put his teeth in and not worry about getting to a restaurant in time for the early bird specials then he’d see it too. Oh wait he has, guess that just leaves you.
I, personally took serious offense to Capgate. His attitude in general rubbed me a bit. I wanted to see him gone but Iam willing to give the guy another shot. Good Job by El Capitan!!!
Who is el capitan ?
Well, I will say this, it’s about time players like this are being recognize by the people who knows baseball. all these PO’s are getting a shot out there because they were brought in by you know who instead of recognizing the players on the field it’s still more about finding lightning in a bottle, this kid is an above average player who can produce. his swagger and confidence might rub people the wrong way, but to me, that’s the inner confidence most of these mets lack, the same thing with reyes was brought up, but I am sure most of you saw the WBC and realized how happy to be playing baseball reyes is.
Ohhh, and about the captain doing a good job? Yeah, he was the one in on the prank pull to valdespin, so that notion that he was being a leader is bullcrap, it was more like I am sorry for what I did pull him aside. you people and you double standard.. Where was the captain when tejada almost got his knees taken out by Utley? And instead of retaliate he went up to Utley soft spoken and all “Hey, man that wasn’t cool” To which Utley replied: “hey man, i’m a 2B, DO something about it!!!” And it was the cancer carlos beltran who had to step in and show the captain how you retaliate… SMH… You people and your double standard keep amazing me
Yet it seems that Metro is the one obsessed with Wright? How the hell did you turn this thread into a chance to bash Wright? You really do have super hero abilities.
Read Above, just because valdespin is a changed man, has mature and is now evolving into a good enough player then it’s not because of him. it’s because wright changed him right? how come you didn’t say anything to those who were somehow praising DW for the change valdespin has done? Wright’s got NOTHING to do with him, NOTHING. but read above and see what I mean. and even if you do, you sure as hell won’t say anything to them.. SMH. You are the worst!
How am I the worst? You are turning a discussion where people are becoming high on V-Spin into something to bash Wright for and I am the worst? As I said yesterday, I don’t bet but I think if I could come up with something where if you lost you couldn’t say anything about Wright for the rest of the season we would ALL benefit.
Also, the only one I saw mention Wright was Collins. So your beef is with Collins?
Right I am sure you didn’t see this:
Good Job by El Capitan!!!
The Captain at work!!!
You are something else, about 7 years of blogging and your love for the guy no matter what it’s just insane…
And your hate for him as a Mets fan is even more appalling. Again, way to make this story on V-Spin about your nemesis Wright.
but Alex did not make it about Wright…
the folks who said “Good job by the Captain” did by instigating…
they knew exactly the response they were looking for…
do u call them out on that ?
of course not…
Wait, so now on a Mets blog it is instigating to say something good about Wright. Instigating and baiting… Something else.
on a post that is commenting on Valdespin’s positive performance…yes that is baiting…
someone just posted a video of Jordany from last year…
when the interviewer mentioned veteran presence on the field….
Jordany pointed to Batista….Santana….Tejada….as folks who helped him out ( no mention of Wright )
then later in the interview…when asked who does he most admire and want to be like…
the response was Jose Reyes…who JV later revealed was like a 2nd father to him…it turns out Reyes not only took in Tejada…but also JV…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRIg724qdk
not 1 mention of Wright in the interview…
so yeah…
mentioning Wright now is absolutely baiting…
well duh, David Wright doesn’t speak spanish. All of those players do.
Nah it’s clear Joe was baiting them by posting Collins quote on Wright…. No wait Collins was baiting them because he too is evil.
…and there is nothing wrong with David Wright having nothing to do with Jordany Valdespin’s success or failure…
all im saying is this leader crap was no where to be found when Reyes was here….
and Tejada credited Reyes and ( gasp ) Castillo with helping to adapt to 2B in 2010.
Castillo was being benched in favor of Tejada, and STILL helped him out…
and despite Tejada giving him credit…met fans STILL said Castillo was a clubhouse cancer
Lol ok buddy.
This article reads like Collins is telling Met fans, “I run this show and if this little show off wants to play for me, he does things my way. I don’t care how good he is, I don’t like his attitude”. And quite frankly, that’s the problem with having an old man like Collins at the helm.
Fact of the matter is Collins should admit he was wrong holding out Valdespin last year. He did more bad than good. Valdespin should have been given every bit of playing time last year. Instead, we were given worthless excuses and players who weren’t half as talented as Jordany.
Alex, don’t be afraid of what you believe in. None of them were ashamed when they all hated the idea of Los Mets and the infusion of Latino talent. Latinos are soft and lazy, their counterparts are gritty and fiery.
Maniac, yeap, but in the WBC we put that to rest, and the result was even felt as I got TWO people (One from the desert) ban for it…. I pay them no mind, trs has been on a DS wright fest since 2008. I am sure you remember how bent out of shape he’d get as soon as someone said anything negative about Captain America (then, he was known as the Golden Boy)
Yet, I was fine with trading him if it made the team better. The lies never cease. But again, way to turn this article about V-Spin into more of your obsession with Wright.
well, at least you are being honest now about the purpose of the core.
Van if you are going to group people then go _______ yourself. You could put ban in the blank or any other fitting term. We don’s need Nazi’s coming around grouping people, are you going to hand out yellow Stars of David and tell us they are ornamental badges next?
After years of taking insults at the hands of people like you who were leading the attack on all Latinos on the Mets, you should be the last one to open your septic tank.
Who’s grouping? You guys identifying as part of an imaginary group already does that.
Who invited you to this picnic? If you can’t read his comment and take it for what he means and intends than count yourself as being one very naive individual. Let him go STICK to MetsBlog where his insults and shit can fly easier. While all you guys paraded during the dismantling of the Mets best players, and mostly because they were Latinos and undesirables to many of you, dont go getting self righteous all of a sudden now that you got your Bixlers, Cowgills and Marcums of the world.
” While all you guys paraded”
Again, who is doing the grouping now? I loved Reyes, Beltran, and Omar and have years of MB comments to prove it. However, I agreed with the Beltran trade, Omar being fired and understood why Reyes wasn’t signed and none of that rationale had anything to do with race. So before you start throwing that word and idea around you better back off and realize that most fans don’t give a damn what race our players are, we are just Mets fans. So I was a huge Doc and Strawberry fan, Franco and Jefferies, Beltran and Alfonzo, Wright and Carter and Keith. You want to ruin a discussion? Start running around and claiming people of being rac.ist and you will get what you want. Chaos.
Meanwhile, TRS trolls other sites looking for material to have posters banned with. This is a funny site lol
Huh? Can you explain?
Doesn’t require an explanation. I don’t think it was written in Russian, was it? lol. Part of being a man is admitting the truth without acting like a child. It’s fine if that’s your personality trait on the internet. More power to you, but it makes you a transparent individual. All it does is simply empower fellas like Metsie, Maniac, Alex and others to go after you with reckless impunity. When you’re ganged up on, your only weapon is to clandestinely attempt to have them removed by baiting them. Again, if that’s your personality trait on the internet, so be it. Your transparency is obvious, though.
So I come here because I have special powers to make grown men act like fools? Come on guys like you I don’t have to use any special powers.
I have said all along that I never want anyone banned and have even went to bat for Alex plenty of times.
The idea here of what baiting is becomes more and more comical each day. The very idea that disagreements cause someone’s fingers to become possessed and somehow that’s someone else’s fault is beyond me.
imaginary group?
who was Jeff Pearlman talking about here…?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/071210
I don’ t think he was talking about Gotham’s own imaginary group the Core.
Nope, he was talking about the people that the Core complain about…
The Firm…aka The Desert….
Wow you really have no clue what you are talking about do you? It’s ok though.
Grouping? As in: ‘None of them’ and ‘they all’ ?
Surely you exaggerate anyway. There were maybe a total of 2 people on this board with ridiculous race comments.
Did I include anyone specifically in what I said other than to point out that there was a large contingent of Mets fans who hated what Minaya was trying to right from the start and it was based on race?
You can pretend that never happened and that we all sat around the campfire singing Kumbaya, or you could read hundreds of posts on MetsBlog from 2005-2010 that support my claims.
Again, I didn’t throw anyone into a group only asserted that their certainly was a group like that. Unlike your buddy Stick who not only grouped me but then painted me as something I’m not.
How about defending me for once, srt?
At least I’ve defended you, Kay, Des, and whomever else when Bayonne was completely out of line.
That’s more than what you or many of your buddies can say who just stood on the sidelines and laughed when ChestRockwell/Kingman would come here and crap all over this site.Lets pretend that never happened either.
Revisionist history is quite popular these days.
You might have a point with the Mets fans across the entire blogsphere – as it relates to the race issue. I have seen more than a couple of opinions leaning towards that moronic argument.
I thought you were referring to folks who specifically frequent MMO. I only saw one or 2 who had that opinion about Minaya’s plan and Latinos.
And for the record, I agree with your mindset. That’s one of the most ridiculous criticisms of Omar yet. I don’t know about anyone else, but many of those Latin players who made their way onto the Mets were damn good for us.
When you respond to me with ” While all you guys paraded” then yes the YOU specifically implies me and at that point you need to back off and bark up another bent tree.
You have Got to be kidding, YOU just said
“None of them were ashamed when they all hated the idea of Los Mets and the infusion of Latino talent. Latinos are soft and lazy, their counterparts are gritty and fiery.”
Pretty fierce accusations YOU can’t back up against THEM, whomever THEM is.
Whatever Kay. Believe what you want, you always have. There is no middle ground with you. You’re right, no Mets fans had any grudges against Latinos. Let me treat you to some milk and cookies.
Talk about all or nothing, you are the poster boy for blanket statements.
ummm thats not an accusation dude…thats a FACT
never in the 50 year history of this franchise was race such a hot button issue when the GM and most of the players were white…
even when over 60% of the players were white…merely adding a couple of latino free-agents had white met fans in hysterical mode
and if u think i am b-s’ing…why did Jeff Pearlman in 2007 write this ?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/071210
sorry…there is still a fear of baseball going down the same route as football and boxing and basketball…
but no worries…u still root for the knicks, giants, nets, etc despite the fact that most of the roster is not white….u still watch boxing matches even if most of the fighters are not white….
the thing that has folks up in a tizzy is the whole association with baseball having to be “an american” sport and lets face it…folks associate David Wright with being American more than Moises Alou ( despite the fact that they are both natural born US citizens )
there is an entitlement issue. If u continue to deny it, and just say Castillo was treated differently than Bay in the media because….well i cant even think of a good reason why…but it def happened…
Boy this conversation is right you your alley isn’t it?
do u wish to add to it or just duck ?
TRS, when are you gonna learn to respect others. Van clearly was instigating maniac and the CORE as it is, yet once again you happen to butt in. do you have no manners? Why you keep butting into other people’s conversation when clearly you DON’T belong, Van instigated maniac and the CORE and you said nothing, but once maniac defende himself you came in to butt in and even antagonize him.. I will send Joe D an email about you never ending ways in this blog. When are you gonna realize this ain’t the desert? You don’t have a say here, and if someone is being attacked is none of your business. you need to learn how to be respectful to others in here.
everyone on a public forum has the right to read and respond all the posts made on it.
Oh good lord, here we go with grown mean being instigated into foolish behavior.
What do you call your previous comment to Maniac then?
“Maniac, yeap, but in the WBC we put that to rest, and the result was even felt as I got TWO people (One from the desert) ban for it…. I pay them no mind, trs has been on a DS wright fest since 2008. I am sure you remember how bent out of shape he’d get as soon as someone said anything negative about Captain America (then, he was known as the Golden Boy)”
How the hell would that not be instigating? Why would I care? It’s not like it would throw me into a fit of rage and lose control of my fingers.
IT’s not the conversation, it’s the never ending butting in from you whenever me, maniac and/or bayonne say something back after being attack or insulted. How come you don’t defend us the same way you defend your sandblasting people in here? For that you’re a super hero, but for us you’re like the executioner wanna be… Read the name of the BLog, it’s called METS MERIZED ONLINE, nowhere it says SAHARA DESERT BLOG, deal with that and stop telling people what to do and how to behave when the conversation isn’t about you nor includes you, last time this blog had a “Moderator” we lost the shoutbox, we don’t need your help here ok? Thanks///
Oh no!!!! You are baiting me…. whatever shall I do?
OK back to the real world. Alex, whenever (the few times that occurs) I agree with you I support you. As for butting in. It’s a blog, if you want to have private conversations where others can’t get involed? Maybe you should go create your own blog or message board? Otherwise I will comment where I see fit as long as my comments aren’t deemed inappropriate I am sure Joe won’t mind.
Which is fine with me, for as long as you’re doing that I will keep referring to your blog as the desert, your people the sandblasters and will still think of you as a Defensive Back…
LOL, when did you ever stop?
I stop for like a day when you asked me… But then I saw you doing the same thing you accused me of doing, so I said the hell with it… sand sand and away!
OK. If you say so buddy.
Not if I don’t wanna talk to you no… All I gotta do now instead of starting a battle with you is show Joe D where I’m being instigate or trying to be baited or attack/insulted by one of you and he’ll deal with the problem, I have a different method, which is just to sight, label the person attacking me or provoking me a CORE fan and move on….
I tell you what then Alex, you send this conversation to Joe and see how that goes for you.
Yes Alex because as TRS admitted yesterday he thinks he is above any laws regarding the Commentary Guidelines and untouchable!
He can do what he wants you know….He’s PROTECTED…(or so he says I’m sure JoeD has other ideas on that!)
Yup, I am above lowering myself to the levels of those banned. You are correct.
Also, why don’t you go back and post that comment there Metsie? Or are you afraid you will be proved wrong again? I am assuming you are getting used to that?
I don’t have to you said it above!
You seem to think that if someone made a complaint to Joe about you that he would not take any action…
But I have at minimum 4 or 5 responses from you I could forward that would at least make him THINK about it…..
You may think I got proven wrong but thats only because your guilty of what you accuse me of being…
They guy who NEVER admits the facts got him or that someone else won an argument on points the other couldn’t disprove or discredit!
You know like you all saying RBI couldn’t correlate because RBI=RS (when they don’t they are two seperate stats) or your buddy who said it was mathematically IMPOSSIBLE to correlate them as I managed to do in my chart all you guys who THINK you proved me wrong have conveniently IGNORED because you have no response to usurp it’s proof?
Click on the link of my Nick and tell me RBI doesn’t correlate better than that crap most of you thinks correlates BEST….
I will say again, yes I am above lowering myself to the idiocy of typing something stupid to get myself banned. Unlike some I have self control.
GOOD lord HERE we GO with RANDOM capitalization AGAIN.
You only THINK your restraining yourself but you do dip into the cesspool as you just did with the commentary about my typing didn’t you?
Mr You mispelled something and I KNOW because Chrome told me you did….
TRS, I don’t think it was random, I think it was for emphasis. And speaking of capitalization and it’s usage, I just wanted to say that “Lord”, in the context that you used it, is always capitalized.
Many authors, write word’s in all caps for emphasis. Stephen King for one does it all the time. “You’re ALL going to die.”
Nope, if you know Metsie you would know he thinks that helps him win a competition that doesn’t exist.
Thank you Roxio….You hit the ail on the head….There is no BOLD without typing archaic HTML commands so it is just easier to capitalize instead….
TRS knows full well but he mostly is here to help bait posters and run protection for the few users he has on his site that post here…
We have know this for quite awhile now…
There’s that baiting word again.
Joe D has to do something about you TRS.. Serously…. You’re not even an IMMORTAL here and you get away with so many sh** that pisses everyone off…
You know Alex, the fact that you are still here gives me complete confidence that if I am ever banned it will be the most unjust action that the internet has ever seen.
Again, I have never at any point wanted you banned and I am not sure why you would I. But to each his own.
TRS, I did not mention the word ban, but I mean that he has to at least tell you to tone it down, you argue with everyone, you butt in on every conversation we have, I mean, that usually leads to insane arguments and debates, it wouldn’t be unjust if he tells you to once in a while mind your business. It’s one thing to be in a public blog and all, it’s another thing to come in to a blog to try to ruin it. You have your own blog, spend some time there as well you know, there you can tell people how to act and behave, leave the job to joe d here, no one in here cares or respect for your opinion. Stop Butting in and start respecting people’s wishes to leave them alone as well…
It’s been quite clear to people around here for awhile that you game seems to be Take little steps over the line (your good with Fences remember) in the hopes of instigating a bannable response from the intended target of your baiting…..
And then wear the Halo as if you did nothing wrong….
Thats all your doing TRS….
And while ONE post of yours may not seem all that bannable in the end the MULTITUDE of those instigations will be hard to ignore….
Which is why I have been saving all my sub emails of your posts when you do that and at some point WILL feel obligated to send them to Joe as a package of the example of your great work here and then we will see what we will see…
This is what I was alluding to yesterday and if you think you can’t be banned well that just will be seen won’t it?
I suggest you limit yourself to talking baseball and any mention of or commentary on POSTERS be stopped!
Because the one who thinks he is UNTOUCHABLE is usually the first one that gets TOUCHED!
Metsie, you think you have so much figured out. However, i will say this. This place was much more enjoyable when I ignored your drivel and random capitalization so I will again place myself back on Metsie moratorium.
Yes and you know WHY the place as more enjoyable when you stopped replying to me?
The BAITING stopped!
You weren’t doing it anymore!
Respectfully, I don’t think ‘instigate’ means what you think it means.
It does not mean someone disagreeing with your opinion/beliefs and responding back stating why.
SRT, Read this again:
van March 21, 2013 at 11:38 am .
well, at least you are being honest now about the purpose of the core.
Please elaborate what the message on that was… Thanks, the CORE will appreciate it.
Van’s punishment is getting exactly what he wanted. The Mets were supposedly an “embarrassment” in 2007 and 2008. Embarrassment is what the 2013 season will be.
He was one of the ones that pulled the prank? Where do you get that from, your assumptions, you think you heard that?
For someone that claims to know everything about baseball you have a selective memory, pranks played on players, by players have been going on since before you were born.
Here – read this http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/still_learning_RKayi3QqkAVreOCNuMdnaJ
Don’t ever let facts get in your way of the truth
“On the road you can’t come to the park wearing a T-shirt,’’ he said. “In the moment you get mad, but I’m not going to fight anybody here, it’s a family here. Especially as a rookie guy, you realize that’s what happens. It’s funny. I’m going to save this T-shirt.’’
David Wright added: “The veterans used to cut up my clothes all the time, guys like John Franco and Mike Piazza. It made me feel like you are more like you are part of the team. It’s better when people mess with you.’’
Wright said he likes Valdespin, adding, “I think sometimes Jordany gets a bad rap.’’
and yet the best one
When Valdespin was asked if he would pull such a prank on a rookie who does not follow the dress code when he’s a veteran, he quickly answered, “No, no, I’d never do that. You know why? Because you’ve got to respect everybody. The example here is this guy here, David Wright. He’s the captain of the team and he respects everybody. The respect is very important on this team.”
Keep up the hate parade, false accusations with no facts to back up those claims, and let the people actually involved prove your foolishness.
I think it’s easier for people to follow hearsay, than what the truth may be. Hazing is part of the game, like you said, its been going on for years. Is it right? who knows, I got it in college, I understood it at part of the rituals of being a member. Did I like it, not very often. But, it did make me feel as part of the team.
I’m quite certain that if Valdespin was batting .128 and Baxter was batting .341 instead of the other way around, that Collins would not have said the comments he made yesterday regarding Jordany being a changed man. And the Wright story would have never been told as well.
Valdespin may or may not be a changed man, but the reason he’s in Collins’ good graces is because he’s one of the hottest hitters in camp and came off a solid Winter Ball campaign.
The only thing that’s changed about Valdespin is he now gets consistent playing time and that the Mets never even realized what a talent they had right under their nose.
They already had him penciled out of the lineup when spring began, and now he’s front and center and the only one on the team who could be a game-changer and a catalyst.
Unlike Captain America who spends three hours a day in the trainer’s room because he left his team behind after they gave him $140 million to play until 2020 when he will be 38 years old. Maybe then we can change his nickname to Father Time.
Maniac, don’t say that… Because that’ll make you a wright hater somehow. this people are just insane. My goodness.
I’m not concerned about Van or whatever his name is, we all know who he is and every time he puts his foot in his mouth he farts out a new nickname. His dislike of Minaya, Pedro, Pagan, Reyes, etc, is legendary on MetsBlog.
True… He’s an alderson shill who needs to make him look good and in order to do that he trashes the mets old regime and their players…
I actually agree with everything you just said. But your tone makes it hard for anyone around here to support anything you say. If you just toned it down a notch it would serve you well.
Thanks Yoda. I’ll tone it down when the incoming fire ceases, until then stay in your foxhole.
Lmao, Maniac, he was agreeing with you.. Calm down a bit, I am sure he doesn’t know the history of some of us with most of these people and TRS’ never ending butting ins. It’s hard to make a comment here without that guy jump into a conversation he has no part of… My goodness!
LOL Maniac. That’s why I would love to hear Collins open his trap and say he was wrong about Valdespin. The kid has the talent to forego any alleged attitude problem he has. And talent is something this team severely lacks.
“Valdespin may or may not be a changed man, but the reason he’s in Collins’ good graces is because he’s one of the hottest hitters in camp”
Good point there Maniac!
And lets be honest here…Even if he DOES have an attitude, if he performs he WILL play.
The only question I ever had regarding his attitude was that WITH it he might not get as much time to work out of a slump (which is going to happen sometime) or stick in the lineup unless that performance stays high.
And then we might be tempted to dump a pretty talented kid over something other than Talent.
No matter where his head is at today, at some point he will mature and sort it all out. So the only question with him to me is will he do that before he POs someone in the organization and they decide to dump him only to see him turn into the next guy we hear about when someone does a 25 year retrospective on how bad we have been.
After four months of Alderson and Wright love fest posts and a dozen posts calling Valdespin a problem child, bad apple, cut hi, trade him, clubhouse cancer, we finally get a post recognizing Valdespin’s talents. Those of us who love show some happiness only to see the thread get flooded with more anti-Latino laced comments. It never ends.
Maniac, seriously, just stop it. Who here made an anti-Latino comment in this thread? You are imagining things just because of your previous notions.
Did it ever occurr to you that maybe a post got deleted while you were away?
Nope, I was here and it wasn’t. Also, you can always tell when a comment is deleted.
And if you wouldn’t talk back like a woman, butting into debates, the other chatters wouldn’t jump down your throat. Once again, very transparent of you.
Wowsa, any woman in your life is indeed unfortunate.
Maybe I’m missing something Maniac, but I didn’t see anyone bring up the race issue on this thread until you did.
I don’t think anyone who is maybe criticizing Spin or doesn’t quite believe he’s a starter yet has a problem with him b/c of his race. I believe it’s because of his track record. Aside from the big hits last season he was basically a hacker at the plate. His off season behavior didn’t win him any points either. He didn’t do himself any favors there and now he starting out a bit bhind the 8 ball. It’s his maturity that’s the issue, not his race – IMO.
I think I said it here yesterday – if not on another site – that I was convinced Spin would never be anything but a light hitting utility player. I’ve changed my stance on that. I’m not cautiously optimistic that given the chance to play everyday, he might prove me wrong. I’ll be looking forward to that.
Sorry, ‘now cautiously optimistic’
Yup, I don’t want anything given to he or Cowgill.
Don’t forget that the reason why he’s doing good and/or has changed his ways is because of DW. SMGDMFH.
Funny, for valdespin is only ST so calm down, but had it been colin cowgil and forget it!!!
Remember those articles about brad eamus???????
One thing is pretty obvious. Unless the Mets develop or acquire some better Latino players, this franchise is going nowhere. When Valdespin is your best everyday Latin player, in a league dominated by them, you’re going nowhere. Those are just facts. Creating a team without any significant Latino is not the shortcut to success hat’s for sure.
I think a better way of putting that is this…
the franchise as a whole has always put marketing above production, and they have never understood the simplicity of the NY fan. they are like a female that always complicates matters when it doesnt have to be.
NY fans want winners.
PERIOD
there is a small subset of suburban or rather sheltered living in a bubble white fans that want their teams to look like them and their neighbors….but restricting your team to that, while other teams can sign and get whoever they want…without having to worry about fan reaction…puts your team at a SEVERE disadvantage.
The Mets for decades have catered to these fans with the Los Mets period being that exception.
The Mets in 2005, had the 10th most amount of Latinos in baseball…
The Mets in 2005, were ranked #1 in the amount of people complaining about too many Latinos on their team.
C – Piazza
1B – Doug M
2B – Matsui
SS – Reyes
3B – Wright
LF – Floyd
CF – Beltran
RF – Cameron
This lineup caused the sensationalist media to make u think Omar and his band of Latino cousins were taking over baseball
think about it…
THAT lineup…and yet this article was written in January of 2005
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/fighting-los-minaya-fires-back-racist-perception-mets-article-1.557264
Sorry champ…but no one gives a hoot if Sandy signs a 100 brad eamus players…it would never become a racial issue anywhere…hell sandy hired his son to be a scout here and it still was never an issue…
when Omar rolls out THAT lineup…folks had their panties in a bunch…
unless u think there was another reason for THIS article
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/fighting-los-minaya-fires-back-racist-perception-mets-article-1.557264
LOL the Republicans tried to win the White House without the Latinos and how did that work out for them?
They did get one Latino vote at least that we know of, Ozzie Guillen.
I think a better way of putting that is this…
the franchise as a whole has always put marketing above production, and they have never understood the simplicity of the NY fan. they are like a female that always complicates matters when it doesnt have to be.
NY fans want winners.
PERIOD
there is a small subset of suburban or rather sheltered living in a bubble white fans that want their teams to look like them and their neighbors….but restricting your team to that, while other teams can sign and get whoever they want…without having to worry about fan reaction…puts your team at a SEVERE disadvantage.
The Mets for decades have catered to these fans with the Los Mets period being that exception.
The Mets in 2005, had the 10th most amount of Latinos in baseball…
The Mets in 2005, were ranked #1 in the amount of people complaining about too many Latinos on their team.
C – Piazza
1B – Doug M
2B – Matsui
SS – Reyes
3B – Wright
LF – Floyd
CF – Beltran
RF – Cameron
This lineup caused the sensationalist media to make u think Omar and his band of Latino cousins were taking over baseball
think about it…
THAT lineup…and yet this article was written in January of 2005
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/fighting-los-minaya-fires-back-racist-perception-mets-article-1.557264
Sorry champ…but no one gives a hoot if Sandy signs a 100 brad eamus players…it would never become a racial issue anywhere…hell sandy hired his son to be a scout here and it still was never an issue…
when Omar rolls out THAT lineup…folks had their panties in a bunch…
unless u think there was another reason for THIS article
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/sports/fighting-los-minaya-fires-back-racist-perception-mets-article-1.557264
Omar, fair point, if you look at all the players sandy brought in, see the HUGE gap between the players he’s brought in… We’ve seen more brad eamuses here than valdespins. However, Most mets fans are you know what, and andy martino can concur with that…
My only true complaint with Alderson is the lack of talent he’s dragged into the organization. He’s forced to lie to the fans, because that’s the job. His handling of Reyes was a travesty beyond belief. It’s not so much Alderson, but Depodesta who concerns me. He has a shaky track history to say the least. The proof will be in the pudding within 4 to 5 years in regard to their scouting. We’ll see how he measures up to previous GMs.
I thought you were accusing TRS of instigating you, hence my comment.
You’re talking about another poster? Man, I need a flowchart to keep up with this thread.
That was in response to Alex, above.
I told you this thread was getting confusing….lol.
Greg Prince tweet:
‘ I wonder how long it will take me to regret rekindling my Jordany Valdespinfatuation’
Cautiously optimistic? Hmmm…..
I am new here and do not post often.
Shocked at how many of you on this thread and others conduct yourselves.
Maybe Joe D should sort all of this out and many of you should take a breather and appreciate the hard work Joe does to make MMO a great mets site. it is not about you.
Maybe after your breather you will appreciate what you missed.
Thank you Joe D.
This! Too many people always trying to ruin a good site and for the silliest reasons.
In Joe D we trust
On the positive side, I remember back when Omar came in and all the mouth-breathers were whining about “Los Mets” so it’s nice to see we’ve progressed to the point where there’s a different set of mouth-breathers whining in the other direction, now that’s equality.
Me, I don’t particularly care what ethnicity the player is though I am disappointed about the distinct lack of eskimo’s on the 40 man and would also like to see pygmies better represented. I’m just looking forward to seeing all those young arms from Wheeler to Tapia develop and to see what the teens Cecchini, Nimmo, Rosario and Becerra do.
Me personally I’m upset there aren’t more Egyptians in baseball….
After all if you can walk like an Egyptian your OBP will be REALLY REALLY HIGH!
Epic comment! Nothing makes baseball more trivial than comparing players by their ability to walk.
Yeah let’s get back to the real issues like a claiming manager is biased against a player because he doesn’t speak spanish discarding the fact that they’re both fluent in english, you know non trivial things.
This is your presumption. I wonder how many successful conversations you’ve had with Jordany which led you to believe he speaks “fluent” English. Very nice way of you circumventing my point with a half-baked theory as to why Collins has issues with Jordany. Since Collins doesn’t speak fluent Spanish, there’s little way for him to understand Jordany, who doesn’t speak English when he’s not around.
You think because Jordany’s words are translated into English via a reporters way to re-writing Jordany’s broken English it represents fluent English speaking skills?
This is a case of an old man who doesn’t relate nor communicate well with a younger, foreign born player. The reason Jordany didn’t see more time last year was Collins being an older, militaristic, old school manager. This team doesn’t need that for it’s younger prospects. Collins did nothing but hinder Jordany’s development, simply because he can’t relate to the young man. One reason is because he can’t speak Spanish and the second is he’s an old school has been who is as flexible as a piece of steel.
So let’s get this straight, Valdespin is some dumb hispanic kid who can’t speak english despite being in the states for 5 years and having given multiple interviews where he’s shown a better grasp of the language than the last Republican President but even he were perfectly fluent Collins wouldn’t get him because he’s too old.
So you’re not just sexist you’re also ageist with a teeny bit of racism thrown. Any other group you want to insult? Midgets? The Amish? People with 3 nipples?
Thats fluid ?
http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=21776771&sid=t422
easier to understand than Jerry ever was. And he certainly seemed to have no problem understanding the questions.
And how deep discussions do you think the manager and a rookie actually have? most of the baseball take is barely above banter anyway! And if Terry really needs to get something complicated explained, there are no shortage of guys around that can help translate if needed.
Is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hRIg724qdk
He sound fine to me. He has the same problems mixing up nouns that everyone has in a secondary language but he knows enough to be conversationally fluent and is clearly a bright guy.
Yeah like Juxtaposing the noun GROIN for D!@K LOL
And Valdespin is completely ignorant of the American media fishbowl…esp in the NYC media…
everything he does is being watched with a fine comb….he and Den Dekker can both do the same thing, but attention will be placed on him. thats just the way it goes when ur a target…
why is he a target?
thats a whole nother discussion…
So let’s get this straight, Valdespin is some dumb hispanic kid who can’t speak english despite being in the states for 5 years and having given multiple interviews where he’s shown a better grasp of the language than the last Republican President but even he were perfectly fluent Collins wouldn’t get him because he’s too old.
Let me set you straight for you, Vig. You seem to need a little direction at the moment. I will do my due diligence and help out someone desperately in need of some light while blind in a blackout of knowledge. The term which you so loosely used was “dumb” which Valdespin might or might not be. We don’t know the kid, right? Refrain from using a word presumptuously, because it could indirectly shed light on your intelligence or possible lack thereof. If this is “fluent English” you must live in a cave or in the Dominican Republic.
http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=21776771&sid=t422
If you think Collins and Valdespin can hold a 15 minute conversation where both know what the other is talking about, you’re a little bit self-serving or convenient with your comparison between he and the last President.
As for Collins being old, the man is. Here is where I will do you another public service. Most blog members don’t do a good job remembering the past. They’re too focused on starting debates over OBP and championing semi-scrubs like Andres Torres and Colin Cowhill to see “the light” and what not. Well, fortunately for you, my memory banks are filled and earning interest. Old men don’t do well coaching young guys. They’re too old school for the young generation. A perfect example was Willie Randolph, who had old man tendencies, which created a rift between himself and Jose Reyes. Willie wanted Jose to be Derek Jeter and act in a manner which better fit his expectation. Bad move, because it cost him a job. A job no other owner will give him because he started a battle with a franchise player which alienated the team. No racism here- check
Lets move over to Collins. My memory banks don’t forget the riot he started on his Anaheim squad many years ago. Very few managers ever start a revolt where he’s canned because of it. The most famous one recently is Bobby Valentine, who has now been chased out via team riot by not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 teams! Quite a feat. Anyway, Collins had a team which despised his actions. Why? He was an old man thinker and it didn’t gel with the squad he had. Out he went. No racism there- check
The reason I say he dislikes Valdespin is the old man complex. He doesn’t like a showoff. He doesn’t like a braggart. He doesn’t like a big mouth. All traits Jordany has been accused of. Funny, but my memory banks takes me back to a time where a certain manager in this town had half a team that resembled arrogant kids like Jordany. Davey Johnson was that man and the Mets were that team. Things worked out pretty well for him. He wasn’t of an old man mindset. He was a player’s coach. It’s probably why no team has ever revolted against Davey.
Collins’ saving grace is Valdespin has been submarined by the organization partly because he isn’t a top flight kid, although Minaya seemed to think he had superstar potential. If Valdespin didn’t have all the negative pub, or the Mets were more concerned with fielding a winning team, Valdespin wouldn’t have received the old man to young guy shaft he received last season. Valdespin deserves at least 500 at bats this season no matter whether he fails or succeeds. What we Met fans don’t need is Collins acting like Colonel Mustard when Jordany starts dancing around in the dugout. No racism there either- check
Here’s another clue in the event you have not passed out from all the knowledge I’m overloading your memory banks with. The reason the Mets hired Collins was because the owners weren’t going to have money to sign high priced talent. They wanted a drill Sgt manager who could bully the semi-scrubs like Emaus and Torres, half prospects like Murphy and bums like Turner into playing hard for him. They knew the team would stink, so Collins was a perfect mindless manager who could drop his bully technique on a collection of scrubs. They could compete for a bit before the wheels eventually would fall off. He almost allowed his mindless habits to get him in hot water with David Wright. At the end of the day, you don’t want a guy like Collins running a collection of good young talent into the ground with his nonsensical way of managing.
Well then I guess we’re all blessed that you have graced up with precense and illuminated gems as:
“The rest of the non-baseball yip-yap is more for women who like to gossip. Collins appears to be a miserable old woman with a gripe.”
Brilliant deduction there sherlock. Let’s see another gem:
“And if you wouldn’t talk back like a woman, butting into debates, the other chatters wouldn’t jump down your throat.”
And without you none of us would have ever realized that an old person could never coach a younger person or that Jordany Valdespin is too stupid to speak english. Real deep thoughts you’ve got going on. You’re talents are clearly wasted here you should call in to wfan and drop some knowledge on the whole metro area.
Christ I just hope Omar Minaya never ever reads a post by you. The thought that your bigoted idiotic ramblings, that if were put on paper would need to be written feces, could ever be possibly construed as his legacy might cause him to drop dead, if only to begin spinning in his grave.
Don’t concern yourself with any past posts. You should not hop around topics like a kangaroo with hemorrhoids. Focusing is tough for someone who has a mind that operates on the local track, but try and stick with 1 topic here. You’re not too swift, obviously. It’s not my fault you can’t retaliate with anything better than making boring retorts, which are masquerading as you attempting comedic sarcasm. Both truly epic fails.
Your baiting, redundant and illogical posts are the only thing here that resembles “feces” buddy. Attempting to sound intelligent, while not making any points after burying you with factual information about our ANCIENT manager, is more of a feminine quality you also seem to possess. You shouldn’t have to defend someone else I slammed by trying to hook him into a debate you’re obviously being hammered to death on. Sounds like you’re admitting you can’t handle the truth and need to resort to childish little comments meant to distract a school I just opened opened up on you.
You’re free to counter any of my information regarding Collins whenever you want. Just try some facts instead of little “gem” girly talk back comments. No one else is going to help someone being pounded out like you have been.
As for Omar Minaya, he, along with everyone else reading this exchange, would be rolling in his chair laughing as I hammer you senseless with sheer knowledge.
hehe very good
pygmies are low. probably hard to pitch to (Veeck was ahead of his time?). Closest the mets have to that I guess is Cowgill…
For now let’s just appreciate the fact that with Turner gingers now have a player they can root for.
the same folks that complained about “Los Mets” did not evaporate into thin air…
they just praise Sandy Alderson for every transaction, draft pick, and press conference..
they refuse to say anything negative every about David Wright…
along with the same polarizing comments that come on this board…
Whose ‘they’?
It was as stupid to complain about ‘Los Mets’ as it is to complain about David Wright. Although for the life of me I don’t see what David Wright has to do with ‘Los Mets’ though. Amazingly enough I can think that Carlos Beltran is a great player and was a great Met, Jose Reyes is a great player and was a great Met and David Wright is a great player and a great Met, I try and leave race to the bigots.
they = the people that complained loud enough that Omar had to defend signing a few latin players in 2004
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsstand/discussion/ny_daily_news_minaya_fires_back_at_racist_perception_of_mets
it continued…and even jeff pearlman wrote an article on the subject back in 2007…
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/071210
I got a boatload of links from met fans all across the blogsosphere complaining about the mets being too latin…
and the subject comes up again when they wear the Los Mets jersies every year…even Matt Cerrone in 2007 complained about the uniform…
then when folks blasted him on it…he blamed it on his HS spanish teacher not teaching him what “los” meant in spanish
sorry bud…but WAY too many folks complained about it…ON RECORD…for you to sit there and pretend it was all gravy…
Are ‘they’ here? Are ‘they’ David Wright? No. So grow up and move on.
You think because Jordany’s words are translated into English, via a reporter re-writing Jordany’s broken English, represents fluent English speaking skills?
So you can sit there and explain away Valdy’s missteps by CLAIMING (lets face it you’re just assuming you know), that he doesn’t speak english? So how do you explain the fact that he was suspended twice in the minors. Didn’t he also get suspended in DWL this past season? Remind me again what language is spoken in the DR? Yeah good Good theory!
I do realize he was suspended….but unless u know exactly what for…you are just speculating.
90% of the 1986 WS mets would’ve been suspended for doing just the LEGAL stuff they did in 1986
getting into fights with teammates – check
drinking in the clubhouse between AB’s – check
sex with female fans in the clubhouse in between AB’s – check
Seriously? Thats your arguement? The ole’ if a tree falls in a forest and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound arguement.. Its fair to say that the kid has/had a bit of a chip on his shoulder. People don’t get suspended multiple time because they are working up to snuff. That being said Valdy deserves a ton of credit for apparently getting it together before the reputation is cemented on him. I was his harshest critic and while I certainly am not his biggest fan he is winning me over a bit. He’s certainly a tough young buck! Anyone who can take Verlander’s 94 MPH cheddar to the R.A. Dickey and not miss any time is no joke
so all u have is speculation then….
if jordany were hitting .280 instead of .360, u dont hear squat about his attitude change…
You really believe Valdespin is a “changed man” and what not? How about Collins is a LAME DUCK manager and now is going to do his best to put the best players on the field. How about that? Valdespin is a “changed man” because Collins says so?
Then again, maybe he has changed lol SMH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbud8rLejLM
Why is it after years of reading this blog, race or DW always becomes an side issue. I went to the first game at Shea and became a Mets fan. To this day, I’m a Mets fan. I get to see a live game maybe once every 2 years at Citi and when they play in AZ. Why can’t people see that any topic of discussion “will” create spin. I’m not in the club house so I can’t say about Valdespin’s attitude. I can say, I hope he becomes the talented player he can be. Whether it’s DW, TC, or JS that helps and mentors his, who cares,just Do your best.. Go Mets