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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/sickels-features-five-mets-in-top-150-prospects.html#comment-378802</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh god! Hide all the broken bats then!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh god! Hide all the broken bats then!</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 20:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And in two months or more will be 25th ranked again because all the guys who ranked us that high will all be promoted out of the Minors....

MAYBE if your lucky the addition of Snydergaard will only drop our ranking to 22nd then....

Yeah he did a real NUMBER on improving that Ranking didn&#039;t he?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in two months or more will be 25th ranked again because all the guys who ranked us that high will all be promoted out of the Minors&#8230;.</p>
<p>MAYBE if your lucky the addition of Snydergaard will only drop our ranking to 22nd then&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yeah he did a real NUMBER on improving that Ranking didn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about the IF and pitching?  I never said Omar was all bad.  That was never my point.  In fact when he was here I said the minors were most likely not as bad as they were rated.  My issue is with saying that the OF is crap and Sandy has surrounded Ike with crap and then coming back and saying those players aren&#039;t so bad...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the IF and pitching?  I never said Omar was all bad.  That was never my point.  In fact when he was here I said the minors were most likely not as bad as they were rated.  My issue is with saying that the OF is crap and Sandy has surrounded Ike with crap and then coming back and saying those players aren&#8217;t so bad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the OF prospects aren&#039;t that great and the Mets didn&#039;t add enough players. That&#039;s the reasons why the OF isn&#039;t good.

But the point your missing is that nobody has ever said the OF prospects are great. And, the OF is just one part of the team. You can&#039;t have homegrown studs at every position. How about we also talk about the infield where we have Ike, or the pitching staff where we have Harvey and Niese?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the OF prospects aren&#8217;t that great and the Mets didn&#8217;t add enough players. That&#8217;s the reasons why the OF isn&#8217;t good.</p>
<p>But the point your missing is that nobody has ever said the OF prospects are great. And, the OF is just one part of the team. You can&#8217;t have homegrown studs at every position. How about we also talk about the infield where we have Ike, or the pitching staff where we have Harvey and Niese?</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Huh?  I think I said the opposite that the players in the OF aren&#039;t that great and that&#039;s the number one reason that the OF stinks?  
Followed by they didn&#039;t add enough players
Followed by Omar did a poor job in drafting and developing OF?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?  I think I said the opposite that the players in the OF aren&#8217;t that great and that&#8217;s the number one reason that the OF stinks?<br />
Followed by they didn&#8217;t add enough players<br />
Followed by Omar did a poor job in drafting and developing OF?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right, that was the original point that 86 Met made. He said it &quot;wasn&#039;t that bad&quot;, so I&#039;m glad you agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, that was the original point that 86 Met made. He said it &#8220;wasn&#8217;t that bad&#8221;, so I&#8217;m glad you agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/sickels-features-five-mets-in-top-150-prospects.html#comment-378736</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol, I forgot Hamilton is no longer in Texas. But the point still stands because their OF is now a lot weaker without him, and there OF would have  been a lot of weaker if they never had him, obviously.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, I forgot Hamilton is no longer in Texas. But the point still stands because their OF is now a lot weaker without him, and there OF would have  been a lot of weaker if they never had him, obviously.</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And because those players that are in the OF aren&#039;t that great?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And because those players that are in the OF aren&#8217;t that great?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[like I keep saying, the main reason reason why the OF is bad is because we have not added any OFers from outside the organization.

If the Blue Jays, Rangers, and  Dodgers for example just relied on the players they developed from 05-10 to be in their starting OF, they would likely have a awful OF as well.

The Jays OF would be poor without Bautista, Rasmus, and Melky.

The Dodgers OF would be poor without Kemp, Either, and Crawford.

The Rangers OF would be week without Hamilton, Cruz, and Murphy.

One of the main reasons why the Mets OF is poor is because they are only counting on players that were drafted from 05-10 and players they picked up off the scrap heap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like I keep saying, the main reason reason why the OF is bad is because we have not added any OFers from outside the organization.</p>
<p>If the Blue Jays, Rangers, and  Dodgers for example just relied on the players they developed from 05-10 to be in their starting OF, they would likely have a awful OF as well.</p>
<p>The Jays OF would be poor without Bautista, Rasmus, and Melky.</p>
<p>The Dodgers OF would be poor without Kemp, Either, and Crawford.</p>
<p>The Rangers OF would be week without Hamilton, Cruz, and Murphy.</p>
<p>One of the main reasons why the Mets OF is poor is because they are only counting on players that were drafted from 05-10 and players they picked up off the scrap heap.</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that the OF isn&#039;t that good and they need to bring in new players.  The point I am trying to make is that you can&#039;t say that the OF is full of crappy players and then champion the players that were developed.  Well I guess you can because we see it all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the OF isn&#8217;t that good and they need to bring in new players.  The point I am trying to make is that you can&#8217;t say that the OF is full of crappy players and then champion the players that were developed.  Well I guess you can because we see it all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point is that these players aren&#039;t good enough to carry a team by themselves, but these players compared to other teams drafts/Ifa&#039;s during this time aren&#039;t that bad.

That&#039;s it. The OF isn&#039;t very good, but most of teams&#039;s OF wouldn&#039;t be very good either if they just relied solely on the backs of the players drafted/signed from 05-10.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that these players aren&#8217;t good enough to carry a team by themselves, but these players compared to other teams drafts/Ifa&#8217;s during this time aren&#8217;t that bad.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it. The OF isn&#8217;t very good, but most of teams&#8217;s OF wouldn&#8217;t be very good either if they just relied solely on the backs of the players drafted/signed from 05-10.</p>
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		<title>By: Metro12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metro12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s both -- for them!  As I&#039;ve been saying for awhile, some want it both ways. If the team tanks this season  it will be all Sandy&#039;s fault, but if the team does well it will be because of Omar&#039;s peeps! lol

Omar left Sandy with a mediocre at best farm system. And the roster was junked up with many big underperforming contracts and/or contracts with awful vesting options and buyouts.  The financial crunch due to Madoff made things even worse.  And then there were the poor Citi Field dimensions that Sandy had to address almost immediately as well. Bottom line -- Sandy took over a big mess.

Getting out from all that and building up the farm system to more respectable levels took time, but it may all be ready to pay off starting very soon. Even if it doesn&#039;t, it certainly was worth it trying things this way as the route Omar took didn&#039;t pay off and was too short-sighted and costly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s both &#8212; for them!  As I&#8217;ve been saying for awhile, some want it both ways. If the team tanks this season  it will be all Sandy&#8217;s fault, but if the team does well it will be because of Omar&#8217;s peeps! lol</p>
<p>Omar left Sandy with a mediocre at best farm system. And the roster was junked up with many big underperforming contracts and/or contracts with awful vesting options and buyouts.  The financial crunch due to Madoff made things even worse.  And then there were the poor Citi Field dimensions that Sandy had to address almost immediately as well. Bottom line &#8212; Sandy took over a big mess.</p>
<p>Getting out from all that and building up the farm system to more respectable levels took time, but it may all be ready to pay off starting very soon. Even if it doesn&#8217;t, it certainly was worth it trying things this way as the route Omar took didn&#8217;t pay off and was too short-sighted and costly.</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s not the point I am making.  I agree that eventually we have to step outside these guys and hit FA.  My point is that you can&#039;t call the Mets OF crap and then champion the players in it as good players developed by Omar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not the point I am making.  I agree that eventually we have to step outside these guys and hit FA.  My point is that you can&#8217;t call the Mets OF crap and then champion the players in it as good players developed by Omar.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And it&#039;s not just the Tigers. The same thing could be said about every team except for the Braves and Nationals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s not just the Tigers. The same thing could be said about every team except for the Braves and Nationals.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s because the draft picks/IFA&#039;s Omar brought in aren&#039;t good enough to carry a team by themselves. Other than Wright (and Santana, if healthy), most of the key players on the team came from the 2005-2010 drafts/ IFA&#039;s. 

However, that does not mean the drafts were terrible. For example, if almost all the Tigers key players were drafted/signed from 2005-2010, they would likely be projected to be a poor team as well.  Without Verlander, Caberera, Fielder, Jackson, and Scherzer, it would be unlikely that they would have any success either.

The Mets problem is that they have not surrounded their young talent with quality players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because the draft picks/IFA&#8217;s Omar brought in aren&#8217;t good enough to carry a team by themselves. Other than Wright (and Santana, if healthy), most of the key players on the team came from the 2005-2010 drafts/ IFA&#8217;s. </p>
<p>However, that does not mean the drafts were terrible. For example, if almost all the Tigers key players were drafted/signed from 2005-2010, they would likely be projected to be a poor team as well.  Without Verlander, Caberera, Fielder, Jackson, and Scherzer, it would be unlikely that they would have any success either.</p>
<p>The Mets problem is that they have not surrounded their young talent with quality players.</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the point I have made with others.  They bash the current team, the current OF and say Sandy has surrounded Ike with crap while also praising the players Omar brought in.  Which is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the point I have made with others.  They bash the current team, the current OF and say Sandy has surrounded Ike with crap while also praising the players Omar brought in.  Which is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of fans usually write of young players that don&#039;t put up desirable numbers. It&#039;s not something that started only because of Alderson. It&#039;s been going on forever. A few examples:

Many people last year were calling Flores a bust.

In 2010, many people were saying Tejada could never be a starter.

Prior to spring training this year, many people were also saying V-Spin could never be a starter.

Not many fans considered Faimilia a valuable prospect after his poor statistical season in 2010.

None of those  players were acquired by Alderson, yet fans quickly wrote them off.

Fans are just very fickle. Think about how last spring training Duda was the toast of the town, and now he&#039;s a worthless bum who should be cut. This is just how fans are; it has nothing to do with the GM. The reaction fans have towards Nimmo and Cecchini are ordinary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of fans usually write of young players that don&#8217;t put up desirable numbers. It&#8217;s not something that started only because of Alderson. It&#8217;s been going on forever. A few examples:</p>
<p>Many people last year were calling Flores a bust.</p>
<p>In 2010, many people were saying Tejada could never be a starter.</p>
<p>Prior to spring training this year, many people were also saying V-Spin could never be a starter.</p>
<p>Not many fans considered Faimilia a valuable prospect after his poor statistical season in 2010.</p>
<p>None of those  players were acquired by Alderson, yet fans quickly wrote them off.</p>
<p>Fans are just very fickle. Think about how last spring training Duda was the toast of the town, and now he&#8217;s a worthless bum who should be cut. This is just how fans are; it has nothing to do with the GM. The reaction fans have towards Nimmo and Cecchini are ordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey t agee   (and you ARE HIM)  the biggest flat out lie that is repeated constantly on this web site is that the farm system was weak or terrible when Alderson took over.

It&#039;s simply not true
It&#039;s simply false
It&#039;s simply WRONG to keep saying it when time and time and time and time again the evidence shows that the farm system was not bad when he took over

Knock it off!  you damn well know the farm was not bad.  But coming from t agee who thinks every team should have a complete roster of all all stars under 30 with a slew of all star prospects all ready to move up at every single damned level of the Mets farm system!

That will never happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey t agee   (and you ARE HIM)  the biggest flat out lie that is repeated constantly on this web site is that the farm system was weak or terrible when Alderson took over.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simply not true<br />
It&#8217;s simply false<br />
It&#8217;s simply WRONG to keep saying it when time and time and time and time again the evidence shows that the farm system was not bad when he took over</p>
<p>Knock it off!  you damn well know the farm was not bad.  But coming from t agee who thinks every team should have a complete roster of all all stars under 30 with a slew of all star prospects all ready to move up at every single damned level of the Mets farm system!</p>
<p>That will never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There could not be a more false statement that&#039;s made here time after time.   Again,  the farm system was NOT WEAK when Alderson took over so there is no testament to him.  His contributions to the farm are mainly getting rid of star players that were inherited for prospects.

The farm was in good shape before he arrived.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There could not be a more false statement that&#8217;s made here time after time.   Again,  the farm system was NOT WEAK when Alderson took over so there is no testament to him.  His contributions to the farm are mainly getting rid of star players that were inherited for prospects.</p>
<p>The farm was in good shape before he arrived.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2013 17:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Farm system rankings that are already a few years old aren&#039;t going to be very accurate.  Projecting how minor league players will fare in the big leagues is extremely difficult, so often times, these ranking are going to be wrong. Just think about how many top rated prospects busted, and how many non- top prospects have succeeded.

That&#039;s not to say not to use these rankings, but the point is that they aren&#039;t hard cold facts. 

Also, players like Ike Davis, Jon Niese, and Murphy weren&#039;t in the Mets farm system when Alderson took over. So the Mets farm system ranking doesn&#039;t tell you the whole story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Farm system rankings that are already a few years old aren&#8217;t going to be very accurate.  Projecting how minor league players will fare in the big leagues is extremely difficult, so often times, these ranking are going to be wrong. Just think about how many top rated prospects busted, and how many non- top prospects have succeeded.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say not to use these rankings, but the point is that they aren&#8217;t hard cold facts. </p>
<p>Also, players like Ike Davis, Jon Niese, and Murphy weren&#8217;t in the Mets farm system when Alderson took over. So the Mets farm system ranking doesn&#8217;t tell you the whole story.</p>
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