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2013
Mets News: Wright Unsure He’ll Be Ready For Opening Day, Has No Regrets
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Updated 3/17
As I feared, David Wright rejoined the Mets this morning and uttered the words I was hoping I wouldn’t have to hear. Regarding whether he will be ready to play by Opening Day, Wright had this to say:
“That’s looking to predict the future, and I can’t do that, and I won’t do that, because it’s the first day I’ve been back in camp.”
“So I don’t know how I’m going to feel tomorrow. I don’t know how I’m going to feel the next day. I’ll tell you that’s my goal. But I can’t predict one way or another because what I don’t want to do is try to do something and come back sooner than I should and it end up being a longer time. It’s just a matter of how quickly my body responds to these treatments and how quickly I can get pain-free in that rib-cage area.”
Regarding his decision to play through the injury and not thinking about the consequences for the team that just signed him to a huge deal, he had this to say:
“Once it got to the point where I thought it might obviously prohibit me from coming back and producing with the Mets, that’s when it was time to make that decision. I feel like I have a pretty good sense of what’s tolerable and what’s not tolerable.”
“You can get hurt in spring training,” he said. “You can get hurt before spring training. Playing baseball, there’s some risk that comes along with that, whether it’s in Port St. Lucie or Arizona or Miami. … I think everybody there was prepared. Unfortunately things like that happen. It has nothing to do with the tournament itself. It has everything to do with some bad luck.”
Adam Rubin has Wright’s complete comments so go and check them out over at his site.
Sometimes people make their own luck based on minimizing risk and making good decisions. That didn’t happen here.
I’m a little ticked off that Wright played through this soreness. I’m angry that he kept it from the Mets until Thursday when he informed Team USA that he could no longer tolerate the pain and couldn’t sleep the night before.
Staying in Mets camp rather than going to the WBC would have kept the Mets in the loop from the moment he felt that first twinge. It could have been checked out and a day or two of rest could have done the trick.
Instead, what might have been something that could have easily been cured is now a moderate intercostal strain that could cost the Mets third baseman a month or longer.
Wright’s a great guy and a great player, but it’s now clear that he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Wright may have no regrets, but I bet Terry Collins and Sandy Alderson do…
And to my friend on Twitter who gave me flack for fearing this would happen, I’ll just say this…
Precautionary, my asterisk…
Updated 3/16
Sandy Alderson announced a short while ago that David Wright has a strained intercostal muscle and will be out a minimum of three to five days.
However, given the uncertainty with rib-cage injuries, manger Terry Collins is preparing to open the season with David Wright on the disabled list.
Collins said Justin Turner, Zach Lutz, Brandon Hicks and Brian Bixler are all options at this point.
Meanwhile when prodded, Alderson said:
“Is it possible that he’ll be out for a period of time? Sure. But what we know right now is he’s going to rest for 3-5 days.”
SOP – Standard Operating Procedures…
Believe me, it could have been much worse.
We’re certainly not out of the woods here, but it could have been a lot worse than this.
Originally Posted on 3/15 at 3:20 PM
I’ve been trying to monitor this developing story regarding David Wright’s rib cage soreness ever since we all first caught wind of it last night.
I’ve tried to contact some of the people covering Team USA just to get something – anything.
A short while ago, I finally received a text that simply told me that Joe Torre was very concerned and was heard telling one of the reporters in the dugout, “I really hope David is okay.”
I asked for more. but was only told that Torre looked deeply concerned and then didn’t answer any followup questions.
As we reported earlier, Alderson spoke with reporters this morning and would only say that Wright would be examined by team doctors in New York today, and return to Port St. Lucie tomorrow.
He did not know the severity of Wright’s injury and basically seemed like he was more in the dark about everything than a person in the know.
He also made clear that neither he nor the team knew that Wright was having any discomfort until Team USA trainers informed Mets head trainer Ray Ramirez last night – and the decision to pull him from the game was immediately made.
Wright admitted to feeling discomfort as soon as he arrived to Team USA’s training camp in Scottsdale, Arizona, and before they even began playing any games. In other words, Wright made the decision to play through the discomfort.
Manager Terry Collins said during the FOX Sports broadcast that Wright might not be ready to play by Opening Day.
Another concern is that the Mets will not update the media on his condition until Saturday at the earliest, according to MLB Insider for the Daily News, Andy Martino.
That sounds to me like second opinions are already in the works and that’s not a good sign.
We’ll keep you posted.
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I just have 1 question with a possible follow up depending on the reply about Wright. Will he miss the start of the season and for how long?
ratfarts…
LoL, well that’s a new one.
The waiting for results sucks cause one tends to think the worst the longer it goes. Fingers crossed that it is nothing serious and it is just a matter of waiting for all the results to come in to be sure considering the Mets have a past of sometimes not getting the initial diagnosis right at times.
This from Alderson’s interview this morning:
David is a guy that doesn’t overreact to things. He’s committed. When he makes commitments, he wants to execute on them, carry them out. I’m sure he felt a responsibility to Team USA. This is a difficult development for him to accept. But in the final analysis, we felt this was the right thing to do.”
I am glad David is a stand up guy and felt a responsibility to Team USA but he needs to get his priorities straight. It is a privilege or honor to play for Team USA but his responsibility is to the NYMets. Here we see the loyalty to the WBC affect the team to which a player is responsible to.
Hi Task,
Agreed. David felt something for a while and though his intentions were not to deceive anybody, he demonstrated a bit of irresponsibility in his judgement
TASKER, WHILE I UNDERSTAND YOUR METcentric OPINION IN AS MUCH AS THE WBC IS MLB’S PET PROJECT, WRIGHT NEVER GETS HIS EXTENSION & METS LIKELY FALL BANKRUPT WITHOUT MLB’S FINANCIAL BAILOUT, SO CONSIDERING HIS CHOICE TO EITHER SUPPORT HIS WBC TEAM’S QUEST FOR A TITLE Vs. HIS MLB TEAM’S QUEST TO MAINTAIN 4th PLACE
WORST CASE SCENERIO IS LIKELY HE MISSES A MONTH M,AKING HIS 2013 SEASON DEBUT ON OR ABOUT 4/15 BY WHICH TIME HIS METS TEAM IS SCHEDULED TO PLAY 13 MLB GAMES.
AGAIN, WORST CASE WITHOUT DAVID, THEY LOSE ALL 13
WHEREAS, REALISTICLY BASED UPON THEIR “WITH” DAVID W% OVER THE PAST 3Y THEY WIN 6 MAKING A’ WORST’TOTAL OF A 12G SWING IN POTENTIAL RECORD
REALISTICLY THAT CERTAINLY WOULD DEVASTATE A TEAM’S CHAMPIONSHIP GOAL; BUT LIKELY MAY NOT EFFECT AT ALL THEIR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THEIR FIST LIKE GRIP ON 4th PLACE.
WE’RE ALL FRIENDS HERE; LEET’S PUT THE HYPERBOLIC VICTRIOLE ASIDE AND SPEAK HONESTLY AS FANS OF A MEDIOCRE FRANCHISE RUN BY LETHARGIC, IMAGINATIONALLY CHALLENGED OWNERS
PLEASE NO!!!! If we all wipe the negative thoughts out of our heads all at the same time everything will be okay. Yes, I understand we are Met fans and this is difficult for any of us to do, but lets give it our best effort for David Wright. He needs us!
On three, 1 – 2 – 3!!!
Okay, everything is gong to be good now. Can you all feel it too?
I can feel it !!!!
I hate to say I told u so….
HAPPY TO SEE U ACCEPTED BY SUGGESTION TO DROP THE “JUST” LOL,MY FRIEND IN ALL THINGS METS…
Don’t read much into Torre’s statements because no one from Team USA has done any examination of Wright…All they did was report the injury to the Mets and the Mets pulled the plug on him….
Torre may be assuming the Mets pulled the plug for a good reason and maybe they did or it could just as easily be they pulled the plug just to be safe until further tests could be made and Torre is thinking they found something they haven’t actually found yet.
What is worrisome is this is not the first time Wright has kept things from trainers and played through pain….
Last time he did that he had a broken back!
So lets hope this time he didn’t ignore something that is TRULY serious and in future learns his damn lesson that pain is an indicator and it doesn’t make you more of a man to hide injury from anyone it just makes you dumb and more likely to doing something that can cost you a year or more when two weeks of rest was all that was needed if diagnosed early.
I agree with your first part, Metsie.
The second part – about this not being the first time….you’re a bit off on that.
In 2011 he did report that sore back – he didn’t hide it from the trainers and/or Mets. They kept at him to get an MRI and by his own admission he put it off for about a month. Mostly he said, b/c he didn’t want to be shut down if it was more than a sore back.
What I never understood about that whole scenario is why the Mets just didn’t insist on the MRI from the get go. Even though Wright didn’t take care of it and get that done when they first suggested it, they should have insisted. Don’t get why they didn’t….
I’ve noticed that Terry has a tendency for a bit of the dramatic. Due to the diagnosis – sounds like the same thing he had last spring and hopefully he’ll be ready for opening day.
Safe to assume even if the USA beats P.R. tonight, Wright is done at the WBC.
Yes but he played quite a few games with it before he reported it…
It was only after two or three games that he made a mention of it and again he DOWNPLAYED the injury by refusing to take the tests….
There is no reason why a player should refuse to taking those tests it’s not like they are paying for it….
As to the team demanding he take them I am willing to bet they can NOT force a player to undergo any medical procedure without his permission.
And to be clear I’m not mad at Wright for what he did ALL players do the same thing which is where the phrase DUMB JOCk is derived….
It’s just pointless as the tests don’t hurt, Take less than 2 hours of your time and why not take those 2 hours to be sure? It’s sure better to lose 2 Hours for nothing than to lose 6 Months for something you ignored because you think your big and tough and can take it!
Professional athletes always hide injuries initially because they don’t want to miss time and are hoping the pain/discomfort goes away before finally reporting it.
These are grown men. They don’t go for help unless it really bugs them…
They are grown men yes….They should act like one!
Be professional! You wouldn’t want the guy who is going to fly your plane to get behind the flight stick if he felt dizzy or had some affliction and hide it just because he didn’t want to miss a flight…
This is just a game….Even LESS reason to worry about missing a day of work.
Better to take one day off to get some tests done than to miss an entire season (costing Millions) just because you thought that sore arm was just a sore arm when it was the first sign of a heart attack!
So it’s a moderate intercostal strain will rest for 3 to 5 days and reevaluate.
Before everyone starts running with their heads cut off that it was due to the WBC He had a intercostal strain last Spring as well that I think he also had a cortisione shot.
You are correct, jerz. Last ST though, it was diagnosed earlier in ST and he sat out for about a month though.
Here’s hoping it doesn’t take quite that long this time for that to go away/heal.
Which begs the question….
If not for the WBC and his desire to play in it….
Would he have actually reported it when if first happened if he was in ST and not just ignore it to play in a game that he deemed just a tad bit more important than an ST game?
Everyone talks about the Physical excertion but they completly ignore the mental component that was in play in both the possible overdoing and stressing of the muscle and the failure to report it just to stay in the game and play for his country.
Actually I think last Spring the strain was worse but I am speculating only on the idea that needing a cortisone shot might suggest that cortisone shot. Not sure if his injury was in the same place though.
LoL, that should of read “needing a cortisone shot might suggest that the cortisone shot was required due to it being worse.” Sorry bout that SRT.
Just my gut feeling here but I don’t think he’ll be back in the lineup in 5 days. Not unless this is extremely mild strain.
I found the initial article from last Spring SRT. FWIW it’s dated March 12th.
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120311&content_id=27194118&vkey=news_nym&c_id=nym
The concern though is if he re-aggravates it or is slow to heal. Look at Murphy. Doesnt he have a similar strain as well?
Yes, same strain for Murph.
BTW even though Murphy played the field in a minor league game today it should be noted that he was not allowed to take at bats.
And your sure he didn’t strain it due to the fact that he percieved the stakes to be higher in the WBC, Wanted to do a little more with the Bat because of that which caused him to stress the muscle and strain it?
None of us will ever know but it’s a possibility.
It’s also a possibility he would have experienced the same thing sometime this month had he been in ST, just like last year.
It can only be speculation on our part.
Yes SRT and while I’m not a big complainer about the WBC I do think it’s a bit dumb to ask players to play at a high level at a time when most are just trying to get back into game shape…
I personally hate it whenever Wright does some extracurricular activity for the MLB other than playing for the Mets he almost never comes back as good as when he left….
I get it’s a nice thing to have especially for other countries who don’t have thier own professional leagues and it’s a nice promotion for the MLB but I’m a Met fan and anything that takes something away from the mets is not in my best interests! LOL
I don’t even watch the game in Postseason….
Once the Mets are out of it I’m not interested in baseball anymore…
My season ends when thiers does!
Lets just hope it’s nothing too serious and causes him to miss Met games…If it does then it hurts the mets and anything that hurts the mets I HATE!
Explains everything I have said the last two years doesn’t it?
All I can say is whatever he felt a week ago certainly didn’t seem to affect him much playing those games seeing as his defense and offense was very good.
Until we here otherwise, I’m not going to get all bent out of shape over this mild or moderate strain until we start hearing that it’s not healing.
And what is it these past several years with all these intercostal strains anyway? Seems to be a high number of them – something we hardly ever heard of with these players. As Keith keeps saying, maybe they’re over doing it with weight training.
My complaint isn’t about the injury itself or what it is….
My complaint it about what it COULD have been and turned into if not treated in a timely matter….
Doctors can only treat you based on what you tell them….
It REALLY is an art of Educated Guessing…..
Don’t tell them something or leave something out is what gets you in deep medical condition…
I’m not worried and I don’t care where it happened or even that it happened at all….
Just wish a guy who is this important to this team doesn’t take risks he shouldn’t all because he wants to play through something he deems is minor without any medical knowledge to know what IS minor and what could be Major….
John Maine comes to mind with the point you’re making.
He kept telling the Mets he was fine, they obviously knew he was not. To the point that I’m assuming they couldn’t even get him to admit to anything to discuss with trainers/doctors.
Remember that last game he pitched in? Warthen must have told Jerry his BP before the game was crap. They let him start the game. Think he threw 2 pitches when Jerry came and took him out. There was an argument on the mound and it continued into the dugout.
After the game, Jerry told the media that Maine was going to be sent to get evaluated.
Then the media goes to Maine who said he knew nothing about that. Said no one told him and he’s fine.
Anyway….sounds like they really had to go to some lengths to get Maine to the doctors to have the shoulder/arm checked out. Think that’s where that Warthen comment came from ‘Maine is a liar’. Which really meant lying that he was fine when his pitching so obviously told a different story.
Long way of saying you’ve got a point on if the players don’t communicate a problem, it can’t be evaluated and taken care of if necessary.
Thats one…Santana is the other example…He didn’t say a damn thing…until he had pitched a month.
On the flip coin you have instances where players DO tell them and they downplay it like what happened with Beltran….
Considering what these guys get paid and how much money they make maybe we should run them through tests for ANYTHING just to be sure….
And maybe with all the money they make off giving pplayers MRIs, Xrays and such they won’t have to charge us 10K for one anymore! LOL
Subsidized Medical care!
side not… DW has 2 Grand Slams for team USA in the lsat 2 years…. His last in a Mets uinform…. 2006…
ya i say its safe to say he trys a lil harder to make a impact with his bat on the US team
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Its a bad habit of a lot of fans who don’t realize that the emotional content has as much to do with the physical as anything else….
While there may not be a nig difference in physical activity attempted between WBC and normal ST there is a HUGE EMOTIONAL component that makes you swing a little harder, Try a little more, Take risks you wouldn’t normally take and it’s all because of the EMOTIONAL being hyped by the COMPETITIVE nature of Professional Ball players….
WBC may not mean more to the fans than a regular ST game…But it does to Players!
Pitchers trying to throw a few MPH more than they would if they were just working out in a split squad game….
Trying to get a little extra spin on that curveball and stressing the arm and elbow…
trying to hit that ball just a bit harder to drive in a run for your country than you would if you were playing for the B-Team Mets….
Even running a little harder to get that extra base than you would in a regular ST game.
And finally not reporting an Injury to stay in what the player thinks is an important game or more important than some exhibition game that no one else cares about.
The body does as the mind wills it!
Hype the Mind the body follows.
Some people just don’t realize that.
I didn’t know that Capt Kirk, Murphy and Turner were in the WBC. They should have stayed in St Lucie where it is safe. Some fans may not realize this, but if you don’t play at the highest level, you risk injuries by going thru the motions and doing things differently than you normally do. And gee, players hide injuries all the time, not just at the WBC. The complaints are all invalid.
OK so I see Rubin saying it’s mild and Martino saying it’s moderate. Which is it?
I’m not as worried about this injury because we’re not supposed to care about 2013 anyway, we were told that we HAD to sign David Wright to a second generation contract, such an injury could’ve just as easily happened in Sprung Training, Mets management says it’ll only be 3-5 days and we can wait and see, and David is Captain America.
Nope. I am not worried at all. Let’s Go Mets right??
True Hank but you still want to be able to evaluate the other players with Wright still in the lineup…
His bat is very important to guys like Ike and Duda and others….
If anyone has a desperate need for a silver lining to all of this perhaps it comes in the form of giving Flores some playing time and maybe increasing his stock towards any future trade we may want to make such as Stanton or some other Power RHB OFer….
If it does go bad it is all on DW. Case closed. Don’t you love these stupid exhibition contests that people feel compelled to perform in, even though they are receiving millions of dollars to get on the field for their real team? Somebody is making money from these games.
Well, it is a good thing that Alderson created some depth on this 2013 team in the OF, bullpen, and starting rotation, in order to protect the team against high risk injuries. Oh, wait, he didn’t. That was the Nationals, the Braves, and even the Phillies. Well, at least he has some money to spend for available needs like bullpen/closing and OF. Oh, wait, he hasn’t done that either. Well, at least he cleared the good reputations of the Mets’ FO and training staff and showed the world that this was the player acting on his own. That makes me feel real good. Thanks.
Don’t you know?
He also created:
Jelly Beans
Cotton Candy
Furry little Kittens
Sunny Days
And the cure for Cancer!
and the infamous box of Jose Reyes Chocolates
He also told Al Gore how to invent the Internet!
There is rumour he also was the lead designer of the Samsung Galaxy S IV
LOL
You might be wanna read that again. Riddled with sarcasm. Settle down.
It gets confusing sometimes….
Because being sarcastic trying to make a joke sounds so close to those not trying to make a joke and are DEADLY serious about what they say! LOL
BMF,
No problem and yes, confirming sarcasm, though I may still be nuts. I’ll try to tone it down, but bringing in a handful of middle inning vets for the pen this winter just hasn’t motivated me to join the Sandy army.
I can’t figure out the difference between mild and moderate salsa. This link says moderate is stronger or in medical terms more severe.
http://www.chacha.com/question/is-mild-or-medium-salsa-hotter
By the way ObamaCare only covers moderate and not mild.
LOL with Salsa it’s easy….
Moderate has more seeds in it than Mild!
It’s the seeds that give the majority of the heat!
As far as Muscle strains go it really comes down to what he said on the Pain index….
So don’t read much into Mild or Moderate….
Strain just means they didn’t find a tear and the severity is all about how much you say it hurts!
Metsie: Thanks for the heads up that its not a muscle tear: Strain sounds mild no matter how much seed there is. DW should be OK but no guarantee he would not miss the start of the season a game or two.
It’s certainly not like he was going to play all 162 games anyway right? LOL
And I think it is pretty safe to say that he doesn’t need the rest of ST to get into game shape after all the Capt America talk! LOL
“We’re certainly not out of the woods here, but it could have been a lot worse than this.” – Joe D
“We’re talking three to five days, which is also a good thing, because we could be talking seven to 10. So let’s just see where it takes us.” – Sandy Alderson
Sounds like you both are sharing a similar thought.
He’ll be alright. No way he misses Opening Day.
Bookmark your comment and check back in 16 days.
Will do.
Given what we know now, I bet he makes opening day. Of course that could change quickly with any new information, but as of now, it looks like it’s not too serious. And if he doesn’t make opening day, I don’t think he’ll be out long — maybe a week at most. So all in all, unless something more serious develops, I think it was definitely worth it to play in the WBC, and I’m sure Wright would say the same thing!
Hi Metro,
The point is that if this was not the WBC but spring training, David would most likely have mentioned it to the organization which would have ordered rest for him at the time. If it is just a minor thing and he’s ready for opening day, fine it’s nothing.
But let us say he misses a week and the Mets lose one or two close ones in which his bat MIGHT have made a difference. If they lose a shot at the wildcard by one game, then what David did – though completely honorable – helped directly contribute to going home after game 162. As any player will tell you, those losses in April can come back to haunt you in September.
One thing in David’s favor is that is most likely not going to happen this year. But if it does, indeed the WBC will come back to haunt all of us.\
Joey, aren’t you one of those saying the Mets have no chance to make the WC this year? If so, how can you say losing Wright for a week is going to have any major impact on the Mets season?
For any player who participates in the WBC there is going to be some risk. Do you know they are now saying Teixiera might be out the entire year?!? He apparently has a torn muscle and might require surgery. So we as fans just have to accept these risks, whether we like it or not.
And I know all games count.But the thing is, anything that happens early in the year, there is at least time to make it up later on.
HI Metro,
Did I say that?
This is what I wrote:
“One thing in David’s favor is that is most likely not going to happen this year.”
I then added this just to be fair:
“But if it does, indeed the WBC will come back to haunt all of us.”
So, I haven’t changed my opinion of things but gave a reason anyway as to why even missing a few games the beginning of the season would be considered more serious if a team was contending. I mentioned in a previous post that the Angeles were five wins shy of going to the wildcard play-in that past season (four games shy of making it a tie). At the beginning of the season, because they wanted to keep Trout down in the minors to save a year, they went 6-13. Of those 13 losses, seven were of two runs or less (five by one run). At the same time, during his first 19 games of the year Trout’s bat accounted for more than one run per game. Could he have made a difference in turning at least four of those seven losses into victories? That would have meant the Angeles being 10-9.
Joey –
So, I haven’t changed my opinion of things but gave a reason anyway as to why even missing a few games the beginning of the season would be considered more serious if a team was contending.
So, it’s only bad IF the mets contend … IOW, with 20-20 hindsight? Right?
Sorry but I don’t like that conditional reasoning. It is either bad NOW or it isn’t.
If the team does contend, and Wright misses some games at the beginning of the year, well then likely you will be able to point to a million different things that happened during the year that the Mets could have done better to get more wins. Not just point to Wright’s absence. It would be totally unfair to pin it on him if the Mets miss out on the WC by just a few games. But that’s probably what many of his critics will do. They will blame it on all Wright. That’s unfortunate.
So was it worth it? I say yes. Sure it’s a downer that he may miss the start of the season, but it’s not that serious and this injury could have happened in regular ST.
I always have more concerns with starting pitchers being used in the WBC, so I am glad Johan didn’t participate — though chances are he wouldn’t have been ready anyway. But it’s fine that position players go, so long as there are no preexisting health concerns.
I’m still going to enjoy the rest of the WBC and hope the U.S. gets by tonight. Then Headley will replace Wright and they just need the rest of the lineup to start going — especially Braun!
Anyway, the silver lining is that Wright got a nifty nickname out of it plus a chance to shine on the national stage and in front of millions worldwide.
“Anyway, the silver lining is that Wright got a nifty nickname out of it plus a chance to shine on the national stage and in front of millions worldwide.”
I agree…Mr. March is a nifty nickname
That one’s nice too since the WBC has made March matter. It’s actually a compliment now. But the niftier of the two by far is the one millions of fans around the country know him by — Captain America!
Yes, because if USA gets eliminated tonight by half of the 2007 LOS METS team, you really are going to care about those games 5 months from now.
LMAO
Huh? Whether the U.S. gets eliminated tonight or not, I’ll feel the same way about the WBC 5 months from now as I do today. And what’s with this “2007 LOS METS” team? Boy, you really do have a severe hangup.
awesome…did the 2009 WBC make u feel different about the 2009 Regular season ?
No. The 2009 WBC made me feel different about the 2009 WBC. Just like the 2012 WBC is making me feel different about the 2012 WBC. LOL. What kind of a question is that?
excellent, so u didnt notice that all throughout the injury riddled 2009 season, folks were complaining about the WBC.
good to see you are always paying attention
What people? I wish you would pay attention to numbers on a page!
I’m with you Metro on this. Wright could have just as easily had this injury whether he was at the WBC or at Mets camp. My big concern was that he didn’t mention the soreness when he first felt it. He owed that to the Mets. And of course, go Team USA.
So what time tomorrow I wonder can we expect Wright to be planning to address the media if at all?
Quite frankly, I would have felt much better if he had done this during Spring Training games or on the back 9. Because then it totally doesn’t have the same effect.
I gather that’s sarcasm.
I would like to see Lutz get most of the playing time if Wright goes on the DL. Was always intrigued by his bat.
Anyone but Turner.
agreed. He should be used solely as a PH and not everyday.
Lutz is the logical choice here…
so of course, the dimwit Terry seems to immediately be committing to Turner.
Does this greatly increases chances of a hundred-loss season?
No. If he misses Opening Day, he’ll probably be back within a week.
I agree 100%.
If I owned a MLB franchise every player I sign would have a clause in their contract that forbids any player on the club on the major league roster from playing in the WBC. If MLB or the players get bent out of shape they can take me to court. Period. if I was paying the freight the WBC farce would be Verbotten!
Why do I get this feeling that David Wright’s grand slam in the WBC will be the highlight of his 2013 baseball season? And we were basking in the misery of the Yankees and their injuries. I bet they have the last laugh.
How? They’re too busy begging retired players to play for them.
LMAO….those players are probably more productive than the horse manure we signed this off-season
Whatever you say.
What? LOL…long way to go yet to determine which NY team has the more injury prone, crappy season.
As far as injuries go, I’ll put my money on the Yankees winning that one just by virtue of the 3 they have starting the season on the DL, and the above 35 guys they’re heavily counting on.
He may not have incurred this @ the WBC…but prepping for that ‘classic’ and the high-level competition ‘this early’ did it.!! Epitomizes why i strongly oppose these inane grabs by MLB for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$’s.
But he had the same injury last year in ST which shut him down for a month.
Yes, but prepping for WBC and playing at such a high level of play so early did not help. i could be mistaken, but i believe that.
Murph got hurt too…and he wasn’t prepping for the WBC. Plenty of guys get hurt in ST.
I don’t think doing too much too fast was a problem here. He could have just as easily gotten hurt in ST. Where the WBC stuff might be a problem is that he played with the injury for a week – if this happens in regular ST and the Mets know about it, he’d probably be shut down sooner
JEFF, BASED SOLELY UPO WRIGHT’S RRESPONSES TO INQUIRIES INTO THE TIMING OF HIS INJURY I BELIEVE IT’S MORE LIKELY THAT THE INJURY BEGAN GERMINATUING WHILE WRIGHT WAS STILL IN PSL.
Yes, and that’s the point: if he had informed the team in ST, it would’ve been early on and he would’ve been shut down for a couple days, and probably been cleared for OD. He continued to play with it and it got worse in the WBC. DW saying “he has no regrets” ticks me off as much as i like the guy. Would he have regrets if his contract weren’t guaranteed?
The WBC is a ‘fake’ format”. Only ‘some’ American stars opt to play–that, by itself, stands to benefit some teams and not others. It also skews the ultimate results. It results in the WBC being a fabricated ‘World Championship’. Baseball’s version of the WBC.
“he has no regrets”
I believe it was Beltran who first said that after last minute preseason surgery. Alderson response : “Wright plays thru commitments”. Wright is a team guy first, but which team.
Mets FO on Beltran’s ELECTIVE SURGERY:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/325907-new-york-mets-news-beltran-bombshell-should-come-as-no-surprise
One player the franchise player really commits to playing for another team an “honors his commitments”
The other player does not want to jeopardize his career and is selfish.
Oh the media spin.
Oh I have a new spin:
Wright for ten days being injured played hurt because he is macho and he felt he owed more allegiance to USA than the Mets. Yeah lets spin that.
Wright you get the Purple Heart.
yeah i have a feeling that if this were Reyes and the team was DR…and it was right after we signed him to a long term extension…the very same fans backing Wright would’ve FLIPPED on Reyes…
but since its Wright…and its Team AMERICA…..f*ck yeah !
that comes before the Mets
Hi Just,
Nah, not really. Fred Wilpon bad mouthed David the same time he bad-mouthed Jose in that New Yorker article. And remember what the organization did to Ike Davis this past season.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/sports/2012/09/6537276/are-mets-sliming-ike-davis-now-too
They weren’t exactly cordial with R.A. either.
So, the moral of this story as that when it comes to putting down people, the Mets are an equal opportunity employer.
But if I recall (and correct me if I’m wrong on this) it was reported that Omar was angry with Beltran going ahead and making the announcement that he was going for the surgery on his own and that the former GM took it as being showed up?
Hi Joey D.
The Wilpon’s are indeed equal opportunity smear campaigners. Joe D. astutely pointed out it started with George Steinbrenner. I immediately thought of the “fat toad” and “Mr. May”.
However, my issue is with the media. Wright can do no wrong. Hispanics can do no right. This is what contributes to the national divide.
You may think I am a liberal when I am a moderate. I believe what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
Again, Santana had the nerve to ask but it was OK for Wright to play hurt and tell nobody for ten days.
Beltran felt he needed and operation to save his career and is selfish but Wright was an injured Captain America had said nothing for ten days.
I am not a John Harper fan but he had the right tone (no pun intended) in this link. He is the exception in the media to dare call Wright out.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/harper-wright-wrong-play-injury-article-1.1290432
Well Hotstreak let me tell you a little something about the Media….( I work in it)
They are a self absorbed, egotistical, self centric and opportunistic bunch! Especially the guys who go on camera and get bylines in the paper!
Why does Wright get better treatment than say Reyes or Beltran?
Not because of his color (but language may be in play in some cases)
It’s about how often that players gives them something of benefit…
Reyes never talked much…never seemed too comfortable making statements…
Beltran was much better but he too never really said too much a man of actions more than words….He never avoide a tough question but then again he never said much when he answered….He did most of his talking with his bat and glove….a Man f ACTIONS more than WORDS…..
Put a camera or Microphone in front of Wright and he will talk to you all day long! LOL
And THAT more than anything else is why they give Wright preferential treatment compared to others…
He has been here the longest, is more open than anyone else on the team to the press with few exceptions and because of that he will ALWAYS give them something to write about to put into a clip and earn them thier paycheck for the day!
They will be your best friend and supporter for as long as they believe you will get them what they need…..
And the second they think your out the door or on your way out they will use that as thier content and throw them to the wolves or use it to defend the guy to keep their EASY SOURCE and workflow going!
Metsie: You are a credible source being in the industry. Look I am a white non-Hispanic. I go back to the Brooklyn Dodgers of Don Newcombe, Roy, Campanella and Jackie Robinson. Who could forget Sandy Amorose’s catch in the WS. The press then was fair. Sure Gil Hodges was a fan favorite and he had bad slumps like Wright. Campy was awful every even year. But this ivery important. Dem Bums were our team no matter what color.
Now there is definitively a racial divide. I do not think Jason Bay talked much to the press and look at all the slack the media gave him. Beltran was our best FA ever and the media (on account of Borus) had me believe those stores until Justa (J.D.D.) gave his side of the story and then I agreed with him.
Look at what Valdespin has to go thru with the media. No his not perfect but he can be another Kevin Mitchell and look what happened to KM he was traded because he was a bad influence.
Sports is the mecca to bring ALL races together. The media is killing that opportunity.
I omitted Joe Black, and I apologize to him. He was a great reliever as I do not think they had the term closer back then. The reliever pitched two or three innings regularly.
Oh Hotstreak I wasn’t suggesting Racial divides doesn’t play a big role just that it’s not really limited to the Media and pretty much encompasses all things in life….
Even a White guy who isn’t racist will be just a bit more uncomfortable in the presence of a person of color merely for the fact that person may have bad feeling towards (real or not) towards White folks.
We haven’t really solved Racism in any real way just burined it under a pile of Politically Correct crapness and Quotas! People may feel that all are equal today and TRULY believe it but they have yet to get over the differences on an emtional and comfort level in dealing with the situation
As for the way the Media was I can say for certain it was far BETTER back then….
Three or four Newspapers, Three Major Networks…Only the cream of the REPORTER crop actually got work. Now there are 100s of News Outlets, Newspapers and Websites that just about anyone can be a reporter without getting that Degree in Journalism and Ethics.
That doesn’t mean to say you have to have that to be a good reporter just that no one seems to care one way or another if you do and that was what weeded out the seedy from the Fair in year’s past….
You knew the media was in trouble once the national Star started breaking stories that CNN would pick up an hour later….
It’s just a very different world.
Between the internet, Digital cable and all the other advances of the Digital Information age….
What we did was make it easier to distribute and diseminate ideas….
But unfortunatly the technology that does that can’t distinguish the good ideas from the bad…
Or the good reporting from the bad reporting…
I blame Society as much as the press because the Press really just gives society what they want….
I sometime wish I was back in the days when the cable box only had channels A to Z…
For one I got paid better compared to the rest of the world! and Two there were much fewer idiots in the business!
Hi Hotstreak and Metsie,
You guys both make excellent points that I think are indeed overlooked by many. it’s not a matter of one being right and the other being wrong – it’s a combination of both depending upon whom it is.
Though you might have mentioned it before, Hotstreak, I didn’t realize you are even older than I am if you were able to follow those clubs in Brooklyn. Great pick up on odd-even years with Campy – in the 1957 Dodger Yearbook (I used to spend all my money as a teenager collecting old magazines) they even said that based on his past record, 1957 was going to be another great season for the Dodger’s great backstop.
Metsie, compared to us, you’re still green behind the ears!
Hi Just,
“Nah, not really. Fred Wilpon bad mouthed David the same time he bad-mouthed Jose in that New Yorker article.”
I dont believe Fred intended for that to ever come out…
Fred is far too passive to ever come out and personally bash a player…he is more of the leak a story out and have an unnamed source tell it to Adam Rubin
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And remember what the organization did to Ike Davis this past season.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/sports/2012/09/6537276/are-mets-sliming-ike-davis-now-too
They weren’t exactly cordial with R.A. either.
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Absolutely correct. If u get on their bad side, no matter who u are…they will crap on u…
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“So, the moral of this story as that when it comes to putting down people, the Mets are an equal opportunity employer.”
Not necessarily, they do have a few favorites…Franco was def one…Leiter was another…Benson was not…LoDuca was def not…Ike is not…Wright is….in terms of latinos/blacks, they are pretty much 2nd class citizens here….its always been like that…
thats why u’ll see til this day, fans rate Cam Maron over Juan Centeno ( Say Hi Petey Pete )
even though Cam was riding the bench as a DH for almost 1/3 of the season while Centeno was throwing out 40% of baserunners and hitting for contact.
If Cam Maron did that, we would hear ALOT MORE about Cam Maron. Ditto for Kevin Pawlecki
Both saw time on the pine and DH’d last year…
its this weird fascination with seeing a roster that looks and relates to the common apple pie loving American.
and sorry…but met fans, especially suburban sheltered met fans have earned that reputation for YEARS. this is why u see eyes roll or some folks cringe when reggaeton music comes on…or salsa music comes on…during a players AB
this is also the reason why anytime David Wright comes up…and he has a rap song…99.99% of the time…the artist is white…
its either Eminem ( My name is ) …or the Beastie Boys ( brass monkey ) ..or House of Pain….( jump around )
David actually requested Big Pun’s song, I’m not a player I just crush alot…the mets took it off after a few months in 2008
“But if I recall (and correct me if I’m wrong on this) it was reported that Omar was angry with Beltran going ahead and making the announcement that he was going for the surgery on his own”
Nope…that didnt happen…and Beltran came out and said Omar and him were cool and saw eye to eye…it was John Ricco who said the team was upset…
the same John Ricco that orders pizza for the team
Even Omar was not going to go to the press and bash Beltran over that BS
I am not sure how this is “media” spin. Not that the two situations are necessarily the same. But several of those in the media have been pretty critical of Wright’s decision to play. And many in the media took the side of Beltran and not the Wilpons when the Wilpons acted like idiots regarding Beltran’s surgery.
Hi Joey D, Metsie and Metro12; I maybe 71 but I feel much younger like twenty years younger. However it does give me a prospective that I am fortunate to have. I seen it with my own eyes.
1. Sports such as the players I had the privileged to see as a 9 year old to 16 year old (1950-1957) was an experience probably no one after my age group will ever experience. Second place was bad. When the Dodgers in their last year in Brooklyn finished third I knew it was all over. The players Black and White and a few Latin decent were our team. We were united against the NY baseball Giants and in WS the NY Yankees. Baseball was all NY.
2. Metsie this political correct thing is terrible. That is why the press can’t slant the story. Sports is where ability not affirmative action should get you the job. I am against profiling as well as affirmitive action. I can’t stand one race put down by another or the double standard. The press deliberately as with Beltran pitted a Hispanic against its white fan base. Same now with Santana. But Wright can do no wrong and it took a ton of time to turn on Jason Bay who tried hard..
3. Metro12. The issue isn’t how much addtional time if any on DL . I believe you rightly used the word specultivre as who knows. As Juta (J.D.D.) said if this was Reyes, Beltran or Santana the press would not be so forgiving for keeping quiet so long. This double standard I can’t stand.
Back to dem Bums were united against the baseball Giants and those Damn Yankees. “All for one, one for all”. I long for those days.
SO we might even be talking to one of the Knot hole gang here Joey! LOL
I’m glad someone is doing Robinson’s Story for this Generation. I hope they don’t screw it up horribly in thier attempt.
I have been a big Defender of naming the Rotunda after Robinson and even Noting the Dodger roots we were meant to replace and represent. I just don’t get why people have an issue with it. Without JR there is no Agee or Jones, Gooden and Strawberry, and no 69, 73, 86, or 2000 Playoffs.
As for political correctness I won’t go so far as to say it was an awful idea…Just an idea badly implemented…
It seems to CAUSE more of the problem it was meant to solve! LOL
I can tell you why Jason Bay got a lot of slack cut and got the “NICE GUY” “TRIES HARD” labels in the press….
First one came from his never hiding from the press! As bad as he was on the field he never ducked a question about it and was pretty damn gracefull about what he was going through…
The Tries Hard has as much to do with his crashing through walls and laying it out there with the Glove.
That said… I doubt a Minority would get such benefit of the doubt in this day and age!
We may have as a society got past the point where we think of minorities as lesser people…But as equals they still get the BAD and UNFOUNDED rap that they are Lazy or uneducated which if the latter is true it’s only because they were denied the education others got or we didn’t care if they actually learned at the time they were getting it.
We still have a LONG way to go here!
Metsie: You right on target on all points. It goes white vs. white as JFK was overrated and LBJ crucified by the press. Maybe because his Great Society and Anti Poverty and not just the Viet Nam War. One being a nice handsome person helps tremulously as JFK was and DW and Mr. blue eyes Jason Bay are. And here we thought looks only counted foe woman. Can we have a fat president like Chris Christie.
I like your Knot Whole gang reference. Koufax is I guess about seven years older than me. For that matter Fred Wilpon too. I remember as a kid Happy Felton had Sandy Koufax featured on his show. He was a 17 old kid from Brooklyn, young wild lefty just getting started.
METSIE, AS AN OLD BKLN DODGER FAN, MYSELF, WHO FEINTLY RECALLS WALKING OVER THE TROLLY TRACKS TO SEE MY VERY FIRST BALLGAME IN TECHNICOLOR
I MAY BE OFF BASE, CERTAINLY FAR FROM PC, WHEN I EXPRESS MY BELIEF THAT ULTIMATLEY WE ARE ALL VICTIMS OF WRONG CHOICES EITHER OURS OR OUR ANCESTORS ESP AS WE ARE MULTIPLE GENERATIONS REMOVED FROM THAT FOULEST CAUSE FOR ENFORCED BAD DECISIONS, SLAVERY.
YOUR METIONING, NOT CARING AS SOMEONE FAILS TO LEARN WHEN GIVEN THE OPORTUNITY. BALLDERDASH, LEADING A HORSE TO WATER WILL NOT ALWAYS PREVENT SAID HORSE FROM DYING OF DEHYDRATION. AND IF IT DOES GET SEVERLY DEHYDRATED; BUT LIVES, SOMEHOW IT’S DESCENDENTS WILL BE PASSED DEFECTIVE GENES CAUSED BY SAID SEVERE DEHYDRATION
I AM A VERY FIRM BELIEVER IN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONESELF & ONES CURRENT & FUTURE PRODGENY
DESPITE MY SINCERE CHRISTIAN BELIEFS, I STEADFASTLY REFUSE TO PASS WATER MOUTH TO MOUTH WITH AFORMENTIONED HORSE IN AN ATTEMPT TO PASS ALONG LIFE OR KNOWLEDGE.
WHERE THE HELL DID THAT SOAPBOX COME FROM, MY APOLOGIES TO ALL FOR MY POLITICAL SPEECHIFICATION.
Metsie and Mets62Fan:
One last point and time to talk Mets baseball and not politics: Lets not forget the discrimination against woman in sports. Damn Yankees captured some of it. Susan Waldman who I know is not liked by many Met fans. Note I started disliking her when at the end of herr time on the WFAN she was brown nosing George Steinbrenner and low and behold she landed a gig with YES. Yes she broke the glass ceiling. I think both woman and other minorities have indeed come a long way and for all our complaining lets not loose sight of that accomplishment. Yes thank you Jackie Robinson and all the woman who had to fight for their rights.
Well 62 just to address what you said….
MLK was the message the White Folk like us needed to hear….
But Malcom X had the message the Black population needed to make whatever MLK accomplished a success….And I think they are just getting around to it now….Obama helped a bit there (at least he was good at SOMETHING! LOL)
You have ACT like your equal, Not wait for Equality to be handed to you or the White person to bestow it on you….
No one was EVER given EQUALITY or RIGHTS!
Everyone who has ever had them FOUGHT for them or ASSUMED THEM on thier own!
There was a scene in the movie MalcomX that put his message into CLEAR perspective…
A White Girl asks what she can do to help his cause and he replies “NOTHING!” The Black population had to rely on themselves to become equal and not rely on White folks to give them a thing towards it. All the success towards equality in the last 20 years has been due to those that realized that, stop waiting for the gift and TOOK what was rightfully thiers. Getting the opportunity is not enough you have to take advantage of it to benefit.
Hotstreak – It really comes down to a metter of respect…JFK respected the press and went out of his way to curry thier favor….
LBJ wanted thier love but never gave it to them back. And in the end he wasn’t JFK, Wasn’t legitimate in the eyes of some and one thing you can bet on everytime with the press…
When your in trouble…NO STORY or INFO you can give them will ever be as good as the CRUCIFIXION and story of your DOWNFALL! They are like Sharks in a sea of Blood when that happens and go into a frenzy!
Which is when they turn on you no matter HOW nice you have been to them, it is a story they can never resist and one they never want to be the last to get on the train with….
And then once the guy is gone they will go back to trying ti minimize all the vitriol they spewed when they smelled the blood and went on a feeding frenzy.
Well I wouldn’t give Waldman much credit for breaking any barriers to women…
Phyllis George did more for Women in sports and took the brunt of the task and Jayne Kennedy (who replaced her) was also African American although never got the same respect in the sports world even Phyllis got…PG actually won some guys over…JK just looked really hot and got by on that! (cause lets face it we ARE pigs! LOL)
But it’s difficult for any woman who wants to do sports to get taken as seriously as they should when they still are prohibited from PLAYING in the sports they cover….
“And in the end he wasn’t JFK”
So true that there was no more Camelot.
I hold the Smothers Brothers and Laugh-In responsible to a great degree for LBJ’s unpopularity.
. As for the point of not playing”
1. Vin Scully never played neither did Gary Cohen, Bob Murphy or Mel Allen. “How about that”.
2. Golf and tennis do have former women athletics who have played.
Ann Liguori, I always liked her. She is good.
Susan Waldman IMO did break the glass ceiling by being the first woman to announce (call) a baseball game.
Hi Metsie, Hotstreak and 62,
Guys, should we let Metsie hang around with us or wait till he gets a bit older? LOL.
I share the same feelings you all have expressed, having the vantage point of experiencing things further back – just like the younger people today are going to have the same advantage of perspective decades later. That’s why, when it comes to advanced statistics, I see them as a modern storage of data and material that players always wanted to refere to as opposed to the emphasis that they reveal things that were not understood before or provide a greater appreciation of that was lost before.
And, of course, due to the black and white nature of stats, to use them as a method to understand the game as to run it on a professional level – well, that is indeed insinuating that those who have played, managed, coached or scouted the game beforeh know less than the new generation of stat followers in regards to strategy, player talent, team building, etc.
Again, there is a difference between more reference material than new discoveries. That was what David Coen was alluding to in an earlier disucssion on the topic.
As far as life and politics, I went full circle, from being a teenage republic working with the Nixon campaign to four years later trying to get George McGovern to replace him to actually attending a meeting of the U.S. Socialist Party to becoming a more moderate liberal to eventual cynic!
So, I think the advantage of my different stages in life enabled me to appreciate that there are other perspectives and one should try to understand why they exist before just simply dismissing them. Of course, being only human, we all have some rigidity for otherwise we would never have principles more than those of being fair-weather.
Agree about JFK and his hypocrocy of being more of an opportunitist (though that never justifies the tragedy that befell him and eventually his brothers) and feel that LBJ is a tragic example of what happens when one gets caught up in self-righteousness being an excuse for all atrocities in the cause of “freedom” instead of “empire”.
But that’s for another day. As far as the Knothole Club, there are only two videos of Happy Feldon’s show and the one with Jackie Robinson came on my fifth birthday so whenever I see clips of it I keep on thinking of what it must have been like going on in my household at that time – of course, it also being my bed time as well!
“That said… I doubt a Minority would get such benefit of the doubt in this day and age!”
and this is why I call out the BS when I see it…
…how about the walter reed fiasco…
“Mets assistant GM John Ricco admitted publicly that the Mets organization was disappointed with Beltran’s decision for surgery and argued that they were not afforded the opportunity to proceed otherwise.”
http://newyorkmetsies.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/surgery-places-beltran-back-on-the-shelf/
I think we can put that issue to rest.
The Wilpons were most def trying to make Beltran the villian.
If there was a reason why the press did not side with the wilpons…
it was because It doesnt help your credibility when this happens a few months before
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/sports/baseball/11mets.html?_r=1&ref=baseball
now the fact that met fans all around the web were STILL calling Beltran selfish/soft for having his surgery is another issue in itself
Oops, i meant ‘Baseball’s version of the WWC”.
Well he said he had no regrets b/c he doesn’t think the WBC caused the injury.
CHICAGO, ISN’T WHAT U ARE SUGGESTING WRIGHT TO HAVE DONE EXACTLY WHAT MURPHY DID WITH ESENTIALLY THE SAME TWEAK?
DON’T LOOK NOW; BUT MURPH AS WELL AS WRIGHT ARE SIDE BY SIDE ON THAT QUESTIONABLE FOR OPENER LIST.
WELL, SO MUCH FOR THAT THEORY! ANY MORE ANTI WBC BASELESS COMMENTS?
Valid point especially in regard to hiding injuries in order to still participate in the event.
However, I still believe that players playing in the WBC are not more likely to suffer an injury than someone playing in ST games.
I still believe players participating in the WBC are better off than those staying in ST. They come into camp in better shape and are better prepared for opening day than the guy who comes into camp and slowly gets into game shape.
I mean the individual teams have more injured players in their camp than all the teams in the WBC combined…
“I mean the individual teams have more injured players in their camp than all the teams in the WBC combined…”
And mostly because they were hurt, didn’t go in the first place or got hurt there and were rushed home!
The other thing is most of the latin country players are not out of shape as much as players from other countries….
Most played winter ball and are not in the “I Sat on my Butt most of the winter now need to get into shape” mode….
I saw Pitchers throwing 96 in one of the games I saw….
NO PITCHER should be throwing 96 MPH that early….
no Alex around here? figured he’d be jumping up and down.
He’s probably DL-bound, but who cares? This team was going nowhere all along anyway.
We won’t have to worry about our first round pick being protected next year, that’s for sure.
And it still seemed like he was planning to play that Thursday even after things were getting worse until the Mets pulled him out about 20 minutes before the first pitch. So definitely not a smart move. Though I don’t think it was an issue of him disregarding his responsibility to the Mets as much as it was just underestimating the injury.
Instead, what might have been something that could have easily been cured is now a moderate intercostal strain that could cost the Mets third baseman a month or longer.
It’s extremely speculative to think that Wright wouldn’t be in roughly the same position he is in now if either he had not gone to the WBC or if he had been pulled out of the WBC sooner. Even if had bowed out, say, right after the first round, it sounds like he would have only gotten a few extra days of rest, and his appearance on opening day might still be in jeopardy.
Wright has a high tolerance for pain and he often plays hurt. I’m sure there are many times he’s done so that we fans don’t even know about. So it’s “normal” for him to play with some aches and pains. He normally gets through these things. He likely thought that this latest thing was just such an incident. Only when it grew more serious did he bring it to the attention of trainers. So I can’t fault him for not saying anything sooner.
Regardless, I think Harper overdid it in criticizing Wright. How can you call into question Wright’s commitment and dedication to the team when every other month of the year he gives 100% to the organization, both on and off the field? He even agreed to sign what some believe is a below market extension. And does Harper really believe now the Mets postseason chances are ruined, lol? I think Harper was way out of line here.
Hopefully in 4 years Wright will still be performing at a high level and will be asked to participate in the next WBC. Unless he’s coming off an injury, I would have no qualms about him playing in it.
I agree with some of what Harper said, to the extent that Wright probably should have gotten things checked out sooner. And really even after it got worse and he mentioned the injury to the trainers he was still planning on playing up until the Mets decided to pull him out about half an hour before the start of the game (though Wright did say he was ok with the decision). One of the recent articles mentioned that he said the pain was essentially waking him up every 15 minutes on Tuesday night… yet it still seems like he would have played Thursday had the Mets not intervened. So I think it can be said that he wasn’t making the smartest decisions here. But I agree with you, that questioning his motives and dedication to the Mets is unfair. Nothing in his past indicates that at all. He’s a guy who has played hurt before when he shouldn’t – so I think its more of just a mistake of always trying to play through things when he shouldn’t and not being the best judge of when he shouldn’t play than him not caring enough about the Mets.
JEFF, AS I STATED TO JOHN HARPER IN MY DIRECT COMMUNICATION ON HIS ARTICLE… I CONCUR AVID’S DECISION TO PLAY THROUGH WAS CERTAINLY NOT THE SAFEST & MORE LOGICAL CHOICE.
WE MOST CERTAINLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT OUR HISTORICAL SOCIETY AROUND COMBAT OF ANY KIND BALLFIELD OR BATTLFIELD DOES NOT REWARD THOSE THAT MAKE THE SAFE & LOGICAL CHOICES AS I DOUBT THAT ANY CMA HONOREES WERE SO HONORED FOR SAFE & LOGICAL CHOICES, HELL, U CAN ADD ANY MILITATY MEDAL OF RECOGNITION TO THAT AS WELL. NO, AS A HUMAN RACE WE DEMAND MORE THAN LIOGIC & SAFE CHOICES FROM OUR HEROES.
LOGICAL & SAFE SELECTIONS BELONG TO THE MASSES & THE TIMID. NO?
I do not know if the injury was made worse by not reporting it. But if you have a contract your obligation is to report it to your employer. Yes one or two days it could be that he slept-ed on wrong side of bed in a hotel room. However after that IMO it is a dereliction of a servant (employee) to report to his master (employer) that he maybe be jeopardizing fulfilling his contract. The DL is usually unavoidable but if he could have been avoided (speculative or not) then the employer is technically in default of his obligation under the contract. The agent (employee) owes he complete allegiance to the principal (his employer). At 138 M contact6 the obligation is: well; super-sized.
Hotstreak – The idea that Wright put his entire 138 million contract at risk by his actions is a huge huge stretch. Now, if he had gone hang gliding or climbing Mt. Everest, that’s a different matter. But all he did was play until he needed to get treatment, and at that point he was fully forthcoming. I think the fact that he still wanted to play points up the fact that the injury is not serious. At what point do you think a player needs to tell a team about an injury? A bruise? Skinned knee? It’s possible to overdo it. As long as the injury isn’t interfering with a player’s ability to play, then I don’t think anything needs to be said. And it’s obvious this injury wasn’t hindering his play up to that point.
I think ;the difference between him telling the Mets right away and when he did is not much. Maybe you’re talking about a week’s difference in terms of time on the DL.
excellent, so throw away 4-5 regular season games b/c he doesnt know how to communicate.
Captain America needs to hang out with Captain Obvious
Sure he knows how to communicate. He’s one of the best communicators on the team. But, in his mind, there was NOTHING to communicate. Because nothing was interfering with his play on the field.
And why do you care if the Mets don’t have him for 4-5 games? According to you, the Mets aren’t contending. So no big deal, right?
“Because nothing was interfering with his play on the field.”
It was just hurting him enough that he couldnt sleep !
no need for alarm !!!
Actually, no it wasn’t. As soon as he felt it night like that, he went to the trainers for treatment.
So at the beginning, there was no need for alarm!!!
It’s not like he sustained the injury doing some non-baseball related activity that was his contract prohibited. He was playing baseball and had the Mets permission.
They know he plays hurt, even TC said he wasn’t surprised by this. So its not like the Mets were completely unaware of the risks.
And while in this case the Mets probably would have liked to have known sooner, there is some level of expectation of athletes to put up with pain. Teams probably woudn’t want every player running to the trainers room every time they feel a little sore over the course of the year
STREAKER, WE FORTUNATELY HAVE NO REASON FOR SPECULATION AS MURPHY WITH AN INTERCOSTAL TWEAK DESCRIBED AS SIMILAR TO WRIGHT’S DID EXACTLY WHAT U SUGGEST, REPORTED IT ASAP; YET HE HASN’T BEEN SEEN ACTIVE ON A ST DIAMOND IN NEARLY 4 WEEKS & HIS NAME LIKELY PRECEEDS DAVID’S ON THAT SAME HOME OPENER “QUESTIONABLE” LIST.
I FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CERTAINLY DEGREES OF INTENSITY BETWEEN THESE 2 IDENTICALY DESCRIBED INJURIES.
I DEFINITLY BELIEVE THAT THE TWO INSTANCES MAKE CONJECTURE A PROVEN INACCURATE ACTIVITY.
EVEN SHOULD WRIGHT MISS A FULL MONTH FROM THE DATE HE REPORTED IT ON 03/13 DEBUTING OFFICIALLY ON 04/13. OF THE 12 OR 13G TO BE PLAYED EXACTLY HOW MEANINGFUL OR MEANINGLESS WILL BE THE LIKELY 3 OR 4 GAME SWING IN W-L BE TO OUR PREDESTINED 4th PLACE FINISH?
STREAKER, IN CASE U HAVEN’T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, THIS YR IS INVESTMENT YR ONLY & THE PITCHING COMPONENT NECESSARY TO EQUA THEL MIRACLE OF ’69 IS NOT DUE TO REPORT UNTIL NOAH IS READY IN 2015!
CAN WE GET BACK TO REALITY & LEAVE THE WORLD OF USELESS SPECULATION?
PLEASE?
STREAKER, IN RESPONSE TO YOUR EARLIER MISSIVE INTENDED 4 BOTH ME & METSIE, MY RESPONSE IS TO PROCLAIM MY 100% FULL SUPPORT FOR EQUAL OPORTUNITIES GIVEN TO ALL QUALIFIED RESPONDENTS WITHOUT ANY REGARDS TO ANY PHYSICAL OR PERSONAL COMPONENT NOT HAVING A CORRELATION DIRECT OR INDIRECT WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THE OPORTUNITY BEING GIVEN.
THAT BEING SAID I EQUALLY OPPOSE ANY CONSIDERATION DIRECTED ONLY TO PROVIDE A SOCALLED EQUAL RESULT DETERMINED TO CORRECT ANY LEGITIMATE OUT OF BALANCE POPULATION NUMBER. TO USE YOUR WALDMAN EXAMPLE…
AS I SEE IT WALDMAN’S BEING HIRED DECRIES ANY PERCEPTION OF BIAS, IF SHE RECEIVED SAID EMPLOYMENT BASED SOLELY ON HER SKILLS & KNOWLEDGE
HOWEVER, THE SIMPLE FACT THAT THERE WAS AN UNDER REPRESENTATION OF WOMEN IN NY BROADCAST BOOTHS IS NOT, OF ITSELF PROOF OF INEQUITY IN OPORTUNITY ESP IF SAID IMBALANCE IS DERIVED FROM AN UNBALANCED CANDIDATE POOL(APPLICANTS) IF 95 MEN APPLY OUT OF 100 FOR 1 JOB THE MOST LIKELY RESULT WILL BE A MALE ANNOUNCER. THAT IS NOT DESCRIMINATORY OF ITSELF AGAINST TYHE 5 NON MALE APPLICANTS. FEEL FREE TO SUBSTITUTE A RACIAL COMPONENT FOR THE GENDER ONE.
BTW, I WAS ONCE AN EQUAL OPORTUNITY MGR FOR A FORTUNE 100 COMPANY’S BRANCH FACILITY. WHERE SIGNIFICANTLY TOO MUCH OF MY TIME & ENERGY WAS SPENT DISPROVING MATHEMATICAL INCONGRUITIES. WITH EVIDENCE BASED ON LOGIC..
METSIE? THRE U GO AGAIN WITH IMPROPER DESCRIPTIVES SUCH AS PROHIBITED IN THIS FOLLOWING MISSIVE
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Well I wouldn’t give Waldman much credit for breaking any barriers to women…
Phyllis George did more for Women in sports and took the brunt of the task and Jayne Kennedy (who replaced her) was also African American although never got the same respect in the sports world even Phyllis got…PG actually won some guys over…JK just looked really hot and got by on that! (cause lets face it we ARE pigs! LOL)
But it’s difficult for any woman who wants to do sports to get taken as seriously as they should when they still are prohibited from PLAYING in the sports they cover….
SURELY YOU AREN’T IMPLYING FEMALE ATHLETES CAN EQUALLY COMPETE UNDER IDENTICAL RULES&CODITIONS WITH MALE ATHLETES IN MOST SPORTS NOT NAMED BOWLING.
IF MY MEMORY SERVES, MORE THAN ONE FEMALE ATHLETE HAS ATTEMPTED TO TRYOUT AS A KICKER FOR AN NFL TEAM; YET FEW COULD OR WOULD MANAGE THE REQUIRED DISTANCES OR BE CAPABLE AS NEEDED TO BRING DOWN A SCORING OPONENT ON THE RETURN.. AND THE PGA HAS CERTAINLY ALLOWED MICHELE WI HER OPORTUNITIES AS HAS NASCAR TO DANICA PATRICK NHRA HAS HAD MULTIPLE FEMALE DRAGGERS [NO PUN INTENDED]
THERE IS CERTAINLY A REASON FEMALES COMPETE IN SOFTBALL NOT BASEBALL & IT HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES, BELIEFS OR BIASES.
LET’S NOT CONFUSE OUTCOMES WUITH OPORTUNITIES NON PARTICIPATORY SKILLS WITH PROHIBITION SHALL WE.
Well 62 you can’t say someone should be equal but then can’t be equal because they are UNEQUAL in some way…..
Either they are EQUAL to men or NOT!
What your suggesting is they can not possibly be a good reporter on a game they can’t play well because they could not offer the same perspective on it due to some perciieved limitation and level of play they could experience and draw from….
Are there Physical differences between Men and Women? Yes well documented differences in Bone structure and Hormonal makeup.
And if that is enough to say they can’t compete with men then it’s also saying they can’t have the same EXPERIENCE to draw from the playing of it.
It simply is dismissed due to the notion “Well what does she knows she has (and couldn’t) Play at the level they play at, how could she draw a frame of reference?
Which is probably what most guys who have a problem with Women covering sports say to themselves….
I don’t know or feel qualified to say if Women can compete at the same level or in the same league as a man….
But if we are to want them to actually FEEL and BE Equals we have to let them try!
Otherwise they are EQUAL but NOT EQUAL in some way….
If we really want to treat them as Equals then we almost HAVE to let them play vs Men and in the same league as them…
Equality is half opportunity given and half opportunity taken….
Which is what I was getting at with the MLK and MalcomX portions of my previous posts
#1 LET’S NOT MAKE ANY IMPLICATIONS COME OUT OF MY MOUTH THAT I DIDN’T FORMULATE SINCE MY RESPONSE HAD ABSOLUTLY NO RELATIVITY TO WOMEN AS SPORTS REPORTERS; BUT MY TAKING EXCEPTION TO YOUR CLAI THAT WOMEN WERE BEING PROHIBITED FROM COMETITION.
MY POINT IS THAT EXCLUSION DUE TO AN INABILITY TO EQUALLY COMPETE IN A PHYSICAL CAPACITY DOES NOT CREATE A PROHIBITIVE CONDITION. MERELY A CONDITION EQUAL TO SOMEONE COMPLAINING OF INJUSTICE TOWARDS MEN BECAUSE THEY ARE “PROHIBITED” FROM GIVING BIRTH! HOW ABDOLUTELY REDICULOUS IS THAT CONCEPT OF BIGOTRY, NOW NATURE IS BIGOTED? WHO IS KIDDING WBOM HERE? ONCE U THROW LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS OVERBOARD ANYONE CAN DEDUCE BIGOTRY IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE WHEREIN THEY ARE DENIED SOMETHING OR OTHER DESERVEDLY OR NOT. SIMPLY BECAUSE U FAIL TO WIN THE LOTTERY REPEATEDLY IS NOT NECESSARIL;Y EVIDENCE OF BIGOTRY; BUT MORE EASILY EVIDENCE U FAILED TO PURCHASE A TICKET!
METSIE, BUY THE DAMNED TICKET!
Sorry if it came off that way 62….It wasn’t my intention at all to put words in your mouth….
All I’m getting at is if there is even a HINT of inequality as far as ability to play the game it will always translate to the reporting of it….
I agree with all the rest of what your saying….
It’s a two way street and opportunity given if not taken is not the fault of the percieved or past discriminator….
You want to know the real issue is as I see it 62?
Many people WANT to be the victim these days!
They like the sympathy!
This country didn’t get where it is (or was might be more appropriate) by saying Oh Poor Pity Me, I am denied this or that or I am not allowedf to this or that….
In the old days you didn’t complain and whine… you did something about it!
STREAKER, AS TO THE REAL TRAGEDY THAT WAS THE LBJ PRESIDENCY, IMO, CONSIDERING ALL HIS LEGACY HAS SUFFERED CONTINUING HIS PREDECESSOR’S COMMITMENT TO MILUITARY ESCALATION IN VIET NAM COMPARED TO HOW LITTLE HIS PERSONAL COMPLETEION OF ALL JFK PROMISED IN CIVIL RIGHTS, MEDICARE.
THAT ONLY HE, AS THE WILY,SEASONED CONGRESSIONAL VETERAN COULD MUSTER DEMOCRATIC SUPPORT FOR BY KNOWING WHERE EVERYONE’S SECRETS WERE BURIED, I BELIEVE HIS SOLE PURPOSE THAT OLD JOE KENNEDY SUPPORTED HIS PLACEMENT ON THE UNDER-TICKET.
Xi, YOUR UNREALISTIC TOUT AGAINST WRIGHT’S NOT TRYING AS HARD AS A MET THAN AS CAPT. AMERICA THAT U ERRONEOUSLY EVIDENCED BY # OF GS HRs IS NEARLY AS DIMWITTED AS A MAL;E PROTESTING HIS INABILITY TO PERSONALLY BIRTH A CHILD.
DO I NEED TO REMIND U OF THE NECESSARY PREREQUISITES FOR A GRANDSLAM GOMERUN” THERE IS ONLY 1; IT’S VERY SIMPLE REALLY.
T HE B A S E S N E E D T O B E L O A D E D! ! ! ! ! !
ASIDE FOR THE 3 PRECEEDING NYM GETTING HBP THOSE OPORTUNITIES ARE LIKELY TO BE FEWER & FURTHER DISTANCED BETWEEN THAN TYPICALLY PRESENTED AMIDST AN ALLSTAR TYPE LINEUP FACING AAAA PITCHING.
ONCE MORE IT’S BASED UPON HIS HAVING MORE BASES LOADED ABs IN HIS FIRST 2 WBC G THAN IN ANY OF HIS GAMES PLAYED AS A MET IN 2012! HIS PERSONAL EFFORTS NOT WITHSTANDING ARE IRRELEVANT SIMILAR TO YOUR REASONING ON THIS MATTER.
JOEY D. METSIES & STREAKER
AS YOUR FELLOW BROTHER IN METS-FAN-DOM I CAST MY SUPPORTIVE VOTE FOR CONTINUED INCLUSION OF OUR YOUTHFUL FELLOW SIBLING SIMPLY BECAUSE EVEN WHEN HE IS WRONG, HE BRINGS THAT NECESSARY COMIC RELIEF IN A SLAPSTICK ILLOGICAL SORT OF WAY ALL HIS OWN. I SAY THIS WITH THE FIRM CONVICTION OF TFIC [TONGUE FIRMLY IN CHEEK]…’62
LOL Thanks I think….
OK Metsie,
You’re in. But “know your place, rook”.
I know I’m only being kept around to help draw the younger women to our spot at the bar though! LOL
METSIE, KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT; HOWEVER RENFIELD ASSURES ME TYOUR BEING KEPT AROUND TO DRAW FLIES NOT YOUNGER WOMEN [TFIC]