15
2013
Latest Update On David Wright: Alderson Weighs In and Responds to Questions and Concerns
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It was MLB Network who first reported that David Wright was being “scratched” from last night’s match up between Team USA and the Dominican Republic with what they called a “sore back.”
After Team USA’s 3-1 loss to the Dominican Republic, Anthony DiComo of Mets.com shed additional light on the situation and reported that Wright began feeling the nagging injury sometime after he reported to Team USA’s camp in Scottsdale, Arizona on March 10, but played through it without incident.
On Thursday, the Mets were notified that Wright was dealing with some discomfort which prompted the team’s head trainer Ray Ramirez to get in touch with Team USA manager Joe Torre and asked that Wright be pulled from the lineup.
This morning, Sandy Alderson faced the issue head-on with reporters:
How severe is the injury?
“So David is flying directly to New York and will be up there today, be examined by our doctors there. We expect that he’ll fly back tomorrow, not today. In terms of the injury and it’s severity, we just don’t know any more than David has related already publicly. So until he’s actually examined, we won’t know the exact nature of the injury. We won’t know the extent of the injury. And we won’t have any sort of timetable for his return.”
He had that stress fracture in his back. Is this clearly in a different location?
“Again, there’s no reason to believe it’s connected to that. But he’s going to be examined today.”
Is there any concern that you only became aware of it Thursday if he indicated there had been an issue for a week?
“David is a guy that doesn’t overreact to things. He’s committed. When he makes commitments, he wants to execute on them, carry them out. I’m sure he felt a responsibility to Team USA. This is a difficult development for him to accept. But in the final analysis, we felt this was the right thing to do.”
David said he had discomfort even leading into the first Team USA game. You weren’t aware of that at all?
“Again, I didn’t hear his full remarks. I’m going to defer any response until we hear back from the doctors and have a fuller explanation from them, if that’s all right.”
Also, as to why didn’t Wright, who signed an eight-year, $138-million contract extension in the offseason, let the Mets know he was dealing with an injury? Alderson said he only learned of the situation on Thursday night after Wright told Team USA trainers.
Wow… As I said last night, the fact that this was an issue before Wright played his first game in the tournament is a major concern and points to a lack of good judgement.
After signing that mammoth extension this offseason, Wright had to put personal pride aside and consider the consequences of further exasperating the back soreness by playing.
The effect of what his potential loss could mean to the team was taken too lightly – and it seems he failed to communicate that he was feeling soreness at all to the team’s trainers. It’s reminiscent of similar circumstances in the past with Luis Castillo, Angel Pagan and Oliver Perez to name just a few. Those three were rebuked by management after it was learned they were playing through discomfort, and all three did end up making things worse by doing so.
It sounds like logic took a back seat in the decision-making process here.
Again, this could be nothing or it could be a something major, we still won’t know until after the exam, but seriously, what was Wright thinking?
Last night he said:
“I owe it to the Mets to listen to them and to be ready for Opening Day. That’s extremely important to me. That’s something I obviously don’t want to jeopardize.”
Currently, those comments don’y jibe with the facts as they are being reported.
A special thanks to Adam Rubin of ESPN New York for transcribing the Q&A with Sandy Alderson this morning, and you can read the full interview at his site.
This post has been updated on March 15 at 10:30 AM.
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Oh crap.
Please let that not be serious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMpXAknykeg
Not cool.
not worth a reply.
Thanks Baloney Mets Fan!
Good one, Baloney Mets Fan!
Why the hate for Bayonne? Seriously…that WAS pretty funny.
Oh, Phoenix, I don’t hate.
Lmao Bayonne. That really was funny!
the fail noise from The Price is Right would have been funnier.
Its gotta be something, b/c Dickey’s on the mound and Wright’s been raking. You get the sense there’s no way he’d miss this game unless something is really amiss.
He probably threw his back out kicking the flat screen after watching the Mets performance @ PSL today.
Not worried in the slightest. I just hope he doesn’t have to miss any elimination games since I would love to the U.S. win.
Just being extra cautious as a courtesy to the Mets and how this game is essentially meaningless since Dickey is on the mound in perfect conditions and even if they did lose, it’s not an elimination game.
Well. He’s still on the bench. I feel like if it was really serious, he’d be flying somewhere for an MRI or something. So maybe it is simply a precaution. I hope.
Oh crap. But good point about the elimination game. Maybe they figure if they rest him enough now he might be ok for an elimination game,. And if the U.S. wins tonight anyway, well then they will have a few days extra for his back to get better. But it’s not good news.
no certainly not good news, but being sore is part of being an athlete.
I’m sure he’ll be shut down for the WBC by the Mets although if he’s insured then maybe the Mets would let him play!
Now more than ever, I’m leaning for having the WBC in November after the regular season. That way a player’s injuries would be less likely to derail a team’s entire season. As it is now, I’d almost rather have them err on the side of super-caution and replace Wright for the rest of the tournament. Hopefully if they need to do that, they can get someone like Longoria or Headley to take his place.
He was injured swinging in BP which would have happened regardless of what jersey he was wearing.
All the evidence supports players are more likely to get injured in ST than the WBC…
Hi oleo,
But might have also been to players putting out too much due to these games which they might have held off a bit by just playing spring training exhibitions. The intensity is obviously there on the part of the hitters.
You might have a point but I just can’t see most players whose season ended in Sep coming back in Nov to play in the WBC.
Then most likely if the MLB wants those players to play they have to pay them well or require them.
I’m willing to bet those that would play in Nov are those that:
- fringe players going FA and looking for a new home
- players that were/will be going to play winter ball anyway
Might be hard to get pitchers who made 32 starts – and some who pitched in post season to boot – to have their team’s blessing on that.
I really don’t now when the best time is to play these tournaments.
Like I said, do like they are starting with the ASG, unless medical reason you have to play. Let fans vote in early October.
Hopefully not and this is just them being cautious. The Mets don’t want him to be risking anything here (though supposedly he was already playing with some soreness for several days which was dumb)…and with a lot of people questioning the WBC, MLB probably is going to be extra cautious since they don’t want to run the risk of all the negative PR if someone does suffer a more serious injury.
Reports are that Wright’s back is sore from carrying the team…
Ha! Good one.
I’ll be here all week.
Tip the veal and try the waitress.
Being Captain America you carry a lot of weight on your shoulders.
Hi Hotstreak,
Or as the original Captain America would have said – “SHAZAM!”
Son of a….
Now saying back of his ribcage, which isn’t great either.
Hopefully it’s nothing more than what he had that cost him a month in ST last year.
Kevin Kernan @WheresKernan
Wright said he still wants to play in WBC and will play in next WBC
18 minutes ago
No chance it happens though. Mets wont allow it…
This.
Glad they’re taking the precaution to get it checked out though.
You are prob. Right and as a Mets fan that is most likely best but as a USA fan I hate that he is out.
“Wright said he hopes to return to the tournament….”
Wright has an injury he still was playing with and hopes to return to WBC but Santana had the nerve to ask to play in WBC. This is no knock on Wright or Santana’s national pride and competitive nature. However, It’s an example of the media’s double standard.
RD fans are representing tonight! Dickey needs to keep it up.
Oh he kept it up alright…enough for Hanley to crush it.
Holy crap Hanley jacked that.
How much fun would it be right now to be in that crowd with a beer and noise maker in your hand?
Wonder what fans were booing Hanley when he came up to bat?
I just have a feeling, and I am sure I should keep it to myself but Dickey will have a tougher time this year. It’s very early and I hope I am wrong but he looks out of rhythm.
Exactly what I said in his last start. In that one, he was letting himself fly open.
The bar is certainly set high to repeat his 2012 CY season.
Hopefully it’s just soreness and nothing more. Sounds like he felt it during batting practice.
of course he’s feeling pain cause why the mets put his shoulders with alot of weight on them to carry this team the only star player. What in the hell is wrong with the mets who own them, what kind of owners do that to there star player oh yes it’s the wilpons and sandy to say that’s right we can u ur contact so now to it all. hopefully davis can rebound back to help , but where is more help. because i’m sorry these owners suck for real. They enjoy giving pain and tears to their fans, they worried about money really they got some and won’t some out to give us fans something. I mean it’s been 5 years now and all the promises have gone sour. These owners will realize that when in the first 50 games that if the mets are not in the two top postions in the standings, that we are done, the game will see only or maybe 1,000 fans in attendance just like it was from 1977 thru 1983. This is why the owners need to sell now not in 2 years but now because we deserve better as fans and to our city, and not be second best to the yankees. I’m sorry to say this but at least as a fan i’m not afraid to say. It hurts me to say it cause i’m a mets fan for 43 years. now is the time for the wilpons to leave goodbye get lost just turn and go far away.
McCarron:
Basically, Wright sought treatment from Team USA trainers, word got back to Mets, docs got involved, they decided to scratch him. He thinks he can play, says it’s more of a problem lounging/sleeping than playing.
That’ll learn ya.
Can they stop with the noise crap so we can watch the game?
Trumpets, horns, drums, tambourines. It’s like an orchestra in the stands.
It’s annoying as hell. Sorry. Lol
No that’s whats fun about it!
To each his own, more of a traditionalist I guess. I mean I am Baptist, lol.
More the reason why you should appreciate it. Our culture has it’s traditions with baseball and so does theirs. So we get this cool melting pot with the WBC.
When April comes around you can come home from mass on Sunday and watch the Mets just like me and we will demand quiet while the pitches are thrown. Over on the islands, they are hyped up and juiced up and it’s awesome. Just a different approach and feel. This is exactly why the WBC is fun.
Anything – and I mean everything – is better than that Tomahawk chop.
Imagine how I feel…a former Miami Hurricane with the FSU Seminoles as our main rivals. I can’t get away from the damn chop.
I feel for you…..lol.
A couple years ago when I was at Turner watching the Mets the were passing out free foam tomahawks and I refused take one. The guy was almost offended and was trying to pressure me and I’m like do you see my damn hat I don’t want that friggen thing. The music is literally played after every pitch during a rally it’s maddening.
It’s not as bad now, I guess they are out of breath. Also I know you are right but I can’t stand random noise.
Not a soccer fan but did u watch any of that World Cup? The WBC ain’t got nothing on those vuvacellas.
Yeah I would rather go through trial as a heritic than watch soccer.
Wa wa wa wait hold the phone. Did you just admit that I was right?
Yeah, I have hada few so I’m mellow.
Hi Salty,
What you just said about going to a game after Sunday Mass reminded me of something from the old “Car 54 Where Are You?” series from 61-63. One day, a salesman came to the precinct to sell cemetery plots. One of the selling points was the cemetery being located near the new stadium being built for the New York Mets so their families could visit them in the morning and take in a Sunday doubleheader in the afternoon.
Why? This isnt Golf. The environment sounds better than your regular season game.
I wonder if all those enthusiastic RD fans think it’s “just an exhibition.”
Dang…I miss Dickey.
No RHP has a better pick off move.
It’s all this “racking” that people are talking about that is the problem! Why is David Wright racking? Don’t they have grounds keepers for that stuff? Does David Wright have to do EVERYTHING for Team USA….. Ti’Dum!
I hate to say I told you so….
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Just-Da-Damaja March 13, 2013 at 8:37 pm
and again…all it takes is 1 DW injury to completely do an about face on this issue…
if that happens, u will go back to not giving a hoot over who wins this EXHIBITION game…
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Then don’t say it, because nothing’s happened yet. Who went back on anything? And why is this “just” an exhibition game? Ask all those RD fans going out of their minds if it’s “just” an exhibition game. Ask all the players playing for their country and national pride if it’s “just” an exhibition game. Ask the Canadians and Mexicans if they were brawling over “just” an exhibition game.
Wait, I can answer my second question on my own. It’s “just” an exhibition because Wrigh tis killing it. IF he was hitting .200, it would be yet another high leverage game he couldn’t get a hit in, right?
You got it.
LOL
ok…
so if Wright misses the 2013 season and needs back surgery….do you really think Met fans are going to give a rat’s behind about this game?
and yes, because for RD + USA, the level of competition is somewhere between the Mexican League and the Long Island Ducks, this is absolutely an exhibition game.
That PLUS, most of the good players are still getting themselves into season shape.
If you want to see how unimportant MET FANS thought these games were…scroll back and look for the comments all through the 2009 year about the WBC
I just don’t see where the connection is between back surgery and this game. You’re trying to create some wierd strawman about the WBC when this injury could have happened anywhere.
Have to ask…
Which one do you hate more? Wright or the WBC?
Common we already know the reason he is dissing the WBC so much.
Why wouldn’t I still care?
A player is no more likely to get injured in a WBC game as they are in a spring training game-only difference is the injury will be more scrutinized in he WBC.
If Wright were taken out for precautionary reasons because of his back, why would I all of a sudden stop rooting for the USA and caring about who wins?
That makes no sense.
Of course it doesn’t which evidently is JdD normal point.
Wrong.
Still watching, still rooting for the USA.
I’m willing to bet so is everyone else who is enjoying the WBC.
There are a lot of happy Mets fans out there right now…
They just reported it was a reaggrevation of a rib injury from a week ago. So POOF goes this “exhibition” theory.
I have a conspiracy theory but I’m going to keep it to myself lol
You think Wright got Kerrigan’d?
Or that the Wilpons bet the pensions on DR?
Go ahead mitch, speak your mind. Remember, no matter what you’re an immortal here. go ahead, enlighten us.
Never liked the WBC…havent watched a minute of it….just another reason to dislike Selig IMO.
And no, the WBC isnt like a ST game. You can see how the players, especially established ones, gradually ease into full competition shape. Not with the WBC…it is “go after it” from game 1. Hence why injuries can be more likely.
The Captain America meant nothing to me. What is disappointing is if Met fans have lost their best player over something that means absolutely nothing.
From reports though it something that could have just as easily happen in ST.
It did happen in ST. The report was it was a reaggrevation of a rib injury that occurred a week ago.
A week ago was 3/7….Wright left for the WBC the 2nd or 3rd.
Hence he must have initially hurt himself at the WBC.
Fair enough. I guess the point was it isn’t a new injury.
So wait…
now David Wright was playing through a rib injury in a meaningless exhibition game…
LOL
ok
Hasn’t been diagnosed yet.
Said it felt like behind the ribs – same as ST last year.
Said he only felt it on/off when he was laying down for the past week, until tonight.
Tonight he felt it in BP and went in to check with trainers and get additional treatment.
By rules, they called the Mets, Mets took him out of the lineup.
Driving back to PSL after t he game to check in with Mets doctors/trainers tomorrow.
SRT, no offense but he doesn’t want to know any of that.
Just stating the facts. So, you know…no one gets spun up with all kinds of speculation and rumors. LOL.
how about now?
David said he was feeling pain…CONFIRMED
David was playing through the pain…CONFIRMED
David was obviously aggravated enough with the pain that he told the TEAM USA docs about it
They told the Met docs about it
The Met docs spoke about it with the front office
The next day they decide to be cautious and tell him to stop
Now they are saying its not a back injury ( thank gooodness ) and instead its an intercoastal strain and he could possibly miss a month
The pink elephant in the room is…
ONCE David Wright found out his back was hurting…why did he NOT contact the Mets…aka the guys who are paying him 138 mil ?
and be honest…
had this been Beltran with Puerto Rico…Reyes with DR…or Santana with Venenzuela, 1 year after they resign for the biggest contract in franchise history…..had they done the identical action of NOT informing the team of an injury…and that injury resulted in him missing ACTUAL GAME TIME
The same anti-Omar / anti Los-Mets Folks here would’ve gone nuts
you guys are so see-through
Since Wright had the same type problem last ST, where he missed a month – not sure anyone can determined it was caused by/at the WBC this spring.
Perhaps not but there is no doubt the level of intensity that the players exert is much greater at the WBC. Those on the field are going all out to win; this is not the case in the ST games. Their motives are vastly different and, overall, it is safe to say that a player’s body is taxed a great deal more this early on at the WBC as compared to a ST game.
Fair point.
Just no way of knowing though if this ‘injury’ might have come up had there been no WBC this year.
Same with Texiera. That injury occurred during BP. Can’t really say if that same thing might not have happened in BP back in Yankees ST camp.
Obviously, injuries on the field during these games would be a direct result of playing in them.
After saying all that, I don’t have a problem with Mets position players going – as long as they didn’t finish the previous season on the DL. Our pitchers though…not so much.
Cishek seemed pretty pumped up for striking a guy out in an exhibition…
He was in it to win it.nothing less.
Those Dominican players are celebrating pretty hard for a mere exhibition…
Us Latinos love to party.
This is the way we look playing after a WS game, A WBC game, a game in the backyard against family
Lmao, Damaja, you tell’em!!!!!! That’s the difference between us and others. we celebrate EVERYTHING!!! a birth of a son, a pregnancy, someone’s recovery, someone getting out of the hospital, someone who won the lotto, someone just got their first paycheck, someone got shot and survived, ETC……….
How delicious would it be if Team PR shoves the dagger into Team USA? I, for one, would be simply overjoyed just to see a few antagonists on this site squirm ifit happened. Congrats to Team DR!
You seem to celebrate an injury to the best player on the team you claim to root for.
Interesting.
Where??? Where either one of us is celebrating an injury to anyone?? This is exactly what Joe D says, some people just have the need to instigate and start stuff, this comment is purely intended to create some problems in here, you are one of the biggest instigators in here man, not sure how you’ve managed to survived the shoutbox and the site per se…. seriously…
Second post in the thread. And I haven’t gone through the other one yet.
Vamo coño!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How fitting if it’s Reyes that wins it huh?What a friggen game!
Would be Aybar that won it.
Technically yes but that Reyes was completely demoralizing. The pitch to Aybar that was called astride was complete BS. For him to get anti on the next pitch was huge.
Agreed. That Aybar PA was the biggest in the entire WBC.
Reyes owns Kimbrel. Hitting over .800 against him. Don’t know why Torre didn’t walk him like he did in the seventh. His hit was the nail in the USA heart. You could see the quit once that happened.
Jon, He’s what? 6-7 lifetime? or 5-6 don’t remember. But the biggest at bat was aybar’s without at doubt.
Jose!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone who still believes these are meaningless exhibition games is not watching this game here tonight.
Top of the 8th and Kimbrel decides to look human and give up 2 runs.
Lucas Duda’s HR in September says otherwise
I think it’s hilarious that the WBC can attract twice as many fans as the Marlins can.
LOL I guess so. Just saying the Marlins because that’s where this game is.
Had to smile watching Jose at first base. We miss that enthusiasm as much as we miss his talent.
But if Jose were here smiling, he would be considered a clown…a guy who doesnt take the game serious enough…
Vamos coño!!!!!!!!!!!
Dos outs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Se Acabo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Salty,go ban yourself!!!!!!!!!!!
Salte ! ( wisin y yandel style )
‘My goat: Craig Kimbrel.’
If you can’t like this game then you can’t like baseball. What a blast.
Alex68 congrats see you on the 25th! Going going gone!!!
Gracious loser.
See you over in the desert.
So true. And so great to see Jose at the center of it.
Salte !!!!!!
Team USA looked more like the Mets tonight than a team full of All-Stars.
Great game, I just wonder how many that will gloat about this game said it didn’t matter before? It sure seemed like it mattered to the players more than an exhibition. Hopefully Wright is OK and these guys meet again.
Agreed. I’d love to see this matchup with both teams at full strength.
Joe D, I’d love to see 9 banned and growing!!!!!!! Lmao….
Hey, randomguy and salty, nice doing business with you, adios amigos…. Like don francisco say: Y Fuuuuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeerrrrraaaaaa!!!!!!!
Jajajajajajaja, hey trs, be proud of salty, the only guy from your blog with bolas… See you the 25th salty, hey random, the 25th come back, hey Bayonne, this victory was for you!!!!!! Lmao
As Bay told us the other day, enjoy it while you can. When it counts you will be back to yourself.
I wish a certain reptile or talking bird bet you instead.
You know why USA lost tonight, right? Wait for it…..
Their best hitter in this competition was sidelined with a potential injury.
LOL…anyway, great game. I’m really lovin’ this WBC series so far this year. Much better than 2009.
USA was shorthanded, but RD won because they pitched lights out. I’d love to see a full strength matchup.
Yeah, I said earlier today…..this competition certainly proves the adage even with a stacked line-up it still comes down to pitching, pitching, pitching and flawless defense.
Yup even if DR defense wasn’t great they pitched.
full capacity means the dominicans have pujols at 1B, not Edwin Encarnacion…they have Pablo Sandoval at 3B…not Miguel Tejada…
the Americans had a dream team squad.
Well, as you know we lost tonight because a certain CAPTAIN AMERICA didn’t play.
He’s not playing tomorrow either.
Volgelsong vs. Figueroa
Figueroa is starting for PR? Excuse me while I go throw up.
Hey Alex, I didn’t get involved with your bets and kept quiet because I was rooting for Team USA. But congratulations my friend, great game even though my team lost. lol
Can’t blame this on not having Wright. They won fair and square, got big hits when they needed them and we didn’t. Should be interesting tomorrow.
Yeah, I was pretty much joking.
It all came down to pitching. It mostly always does.
Maniac, Bayonne, I know you guys were rooting for team USA, hell, I love them too and said if we don’t win that I’d like them to win it, however, you guys know that there was no way I’d bet with any of yous, I wanted someone from the desert or one of these know it all to man up, of course, the guy who’s probably the more likeable person in the desert is the one who got banned, where’s trs??/ since he always defend his desert people how about you stick up for salty now and ban yourself?????
Come on Alex…you can’t add additional people to either side of a bet after the outcome has been determined. LOL.
That’s like your office mates going in on a lottery ticket, you deciding to pass – but once they win asking for a share of the winnings.
It just doesn’t work.
Actually if I bet on things like this you would already be gone after Hanley’s season last year. Like I said, enjoy the game and the win. Certainly looked like more than an exhibition? Huh?
SRT, i was teasing TRS a bit, but it is true what i said, he’s always sticking up for his sandblasters from the desert, which is fine i guess, now it’s the time when he should’ve butt in and take the ban away from salty, that’s the sign of a true leader right? LOL
TRS, helluva game… i kept thiking, damn, i’m gone for a week! but then, the ninth inning came in and cruz, aybar and reyes happened. Kimbrell still not in game shape i see, but last night’s game was as good, as we’ve ever seen, the real rivalry is DR versus US. Don’t care that japan has won the other 2 WBC, if we play when most of this players are already in baseball form, nobody could touch either one.
Also, interesting rules for tie score going into extras for the WBC.
Come the 13 inning, if it’s still tied, both teams start off the inning with a man on first and second. Think those players who are scheduled up 1st/2nd are the ones placed on base.
Something about being careful with pitching arms and not wanting to risk overuse.
Almost wish it had got to extras and the 13th. That would have been interesting….
Even though you never confirmed, I’ll stop for a week at midnight. Unless, you think P.R.is going to win.. I’ll take U.S. tomorrow night for my “week loss ban” to be lifted haha
Random, ohhh it was confirmed, with that being said, i DO think PR will beat USA, but i am not 100% as confident as i was with the DR, different teams, different lineups. I hope tonight’s game will be as good though.
I’m Puerto Rican, and I dont even think PR is gonna beat USA. I hope they do, but its not as likely.
kids in PR are almost like kids in America. There are 100 things to get into over there…so when they started the draft in the mid-90′s. A 16 year old Pudge couldnt get signed….so a 12 year old Pudge in 2013 has to finish HS, and have an option to play college baseball ( like Carlos C from Houston )
its a miracle, PR has still produced the amount of players it has with the draft. The size and population is smaller than Long Island.
HEY ALEX68 – Just you wait until Team Ireland gets there in 4 years – I’ll bet you then!!!
HAHAHAH j/k
Although Ireland is starting to get into Baseball (and I am a monetary supporter even if it’s a little bit), won’t claim they will be that great for a while, but maybe one day.
Congrats on your team winning, this time
Daniel Murphy will be the cleanup hitter!!!
Kay, LOL, thanks and well, i was shocked to see spain, i had a girl friend of mine from spain who didn’t even know spain had a baseball team, i checked and what they do is they hold elimination tournament or something like that, and that’s why brazil and spain got in. Teams like panama and hell, even colombia had more recognizable players. But you never know, ireland might win the preliminatories next time. A week ban is not a bad bet, fun and games.
ND the fight en Irish in WBC.
http://notredame.247sports.com/Article/No-17-Notre-Dame-baseball-is-getting-comfortable-in-close-games-121241
Warms my heart to see the Dominicans defeat Team USA after all the Capt. America bandwagoning. Poetic justice how Jose Reyes was a huge part of it as well. Reyes haters must have swallowed a bitter pill last night. After the salty treatment he received towards the end of his Met career, Reyes deserves all the success he has coming to him this season.
Congrats to Team DR!
Hoping for a rematch. That was just like a real baseball game last night.
Thanks Russell…. It’d be even better if it’s for the championship…..
Alex68, I think you should check back the original thread, you never actually accepted the terms I laid out, but I’m gone. (this doesn’t count, since I’m just letting you know, I’m gone for a week, but go ahead and check the original thread, my last post was at 5:50pm. Game didn’t start until 7. I said “Deal?” You never answered. Go ahead and check it yourself. See ya next week.)
Random, it’s up to you, as soon as i said i had a bet to be ban, you jumped in, i thought right away me and you had a deal, i kept asking people and only salty stepped up, you don’t have to ban yourself if you don’t want to, just know that i was gone next week if DR would’ve lost.
Oh, I’m gone for a week, it’s no big deal. but for the future. you might want to confirm the wager, in case it was something real. Cause, if this wasn’t just for “fun” I wouldn’t have lost, you need to accept the terms of a deal (and yes, that includes when the ban will start and stop). If this was for money, or something similar, I would certainly be laughing around not paying, because you never actually said. I guess you can hypothetically say you “thought it was on” from the get go, but you do need to confirm when something is actually bet.
See you Friday 3/22 at 12:01 am
Random, money joe d wouldn’t allow it, figure a week ban, i said the ban would start monday march 18th, that way it gives you this week to blog, with that being said, i figure once you jumped in the bet you were game, usually in the afternoon i rarely blog, i spent time with wife and help daughter with homework, that is why your 5:50 comment i didn’t see it, i figure i’d be ban with you and salty gary, making my ban to be 2 weeks instead of one. it’s all fun and game though.
Exactly, I would never expect money to be aloud to be done over this, I was just looking for something to say, “Okay, Deal” or similar, which I didn’t. But obviously we both knew which side we were taking and what not, there really wasn’t anything that could happen, which is why I’m still going to accept said Ban, you’re saying Monday-Sunday, and then following Monday, I’m good?
Yeah, that was the terms, i would’ve taken monday through sunday, however, i see your point, i’d be fair since i didn’t know you were looking for an answer back, ban yourself sunday through wednesday, come back march thursday march 21st, Fair?
I’ll just take the week, Monday-Sunday, no biggie.
Hoping for a rematch too. USA has to beat PR tonight for that to happen.
These games are great. The players have actually been more fired up – or less reserved – than some post season games. I’m sure it has something to do with country pride as well as it being accepted that showing a little emotion during this tournament is not meant to show up the other team.
To me these games are more exciting than watching the normal ST games where the final score doesn’t much matter.
Japan is gonna be tough for all teams left standing though.
Japan is gonna be tough for all teams left standing though.”
Agree, but again, it has more to do with them already being on baseball form, as most of the players still not in baseball form yet, if this tournament somehow play in june, and japan doesn’t have to face the weakest opponents on the tournament i don’t think they’d be as relevant. USA, Venezuela, PR, DR and even Canada and Mexico are not bad teams, all those play basically one another and beat up on each other, Japan greatest competitor is cuba and neaderlands, give me a break.
You might very well be right with Japan. They’re the 2 time undefeated champions of the WBC. Maybe the timing is significant there.
Ohhhh, and to accomodate them even more, they have the finals play in SF, where a lot of asians are located, giving them the advantage on crowd as well. a team like DR doesn’t have the same population as them. why not play the games in texas or a mid state? it’d be only fair.
Alex they aren’t interested in fair, they are interested in $$$$. San Fran gets you the cash.
Ah…money. Selig -> money -> profits. Makes sense now.
I have no idea what/who determines where these games are to be played. I don’t think I’ve ever read anything on that.
Yeah, i guess that’s the idea. no wonder the ratings the past 2 times weren’t as exciting, let’s be frank here, NOBODY gave a f*** about japan winning it. now with the DR team and the possibility of USA of being in the finals, the attention has changed. Now, it’d be tough for japan to win.
For all of you who like the idea of baseball expanding all over the world and thus support the WBC…..here are some “raspberries” .
A perfect example of the problem here…Now our best player is hurt with the kind of thing that can be hard to properly diagnose and treat. David said the right thing about his loyalty to the Mets but it doesn’t change the fact that if he gets hurt it should be while he is training /playing for us.
I would suggest to the Front Office (that many of you hate) to no longer allow players to participate in this tournament. Someone mentioned that the WBC insures a players MLB team for contracts in case of loss of services when there are injuries. Somehow, I doubt this to be true.
Look at this situation presented in the following manner.! You own a construction business and one of your employees decides to “moonlight” and gets hurt working for another company on the weekend. Should you have to pay him while he is recuperating and pay for his hospital bills too?.
Sorry, but no amount of flag waving should come into play on this subject!
Teams and the fans of those team should have a player’s total commitment to them!
Even though I very much enjoy the WBC, can’t say that I’m in favor of international or world wide baseball that includes MLB for a full season – which I believe is Selig’s dream.
Call me old school but that’s just one change I wouldn’t like to see.
Oh, and the WBC does insure players. That was one of the reasons it was a sure bet Santana was not going to play. The WBC would have had to insure him and with his questionable health to start with (ending last season on the DL), it wasn’t a sure thing the WBC was going to do that. I don’t believe that was ever decided as the Mets pretty much said no anyway, for obvious reasons.
Anyway….that insurance money is nice but it doesn’t do much for me if someone like Wright or a SP is injured in the WBC and misses some/all of the season. Still, I don’t mind our healthy position players participating.
Joe D., If something were to happen in a worst case scenario, who takes the hit on his salary owed this year? Is it the WBC or the Mets? Does insurance come into play? I know insurance companies don’t usually cover the majority of longterm contracts, but sometimes they do with higher premiums. Is there insurance on Wright’s contract?
Concerning the latest update here on Wright:
Where does the line get drawn in the sand concerning being cautious and being over the top?
These guys come into ST and probably expect to feel some soreness and such as they get into playing shape. To overreact to every ache and pain is silly. On the other hand, to ignore a nagging problem hoping it will go away and not report it is not smart either.
Don’t know which line Wright’s problem falls in. Did he think it was just normal soreness? Did he suspect it might be something more but wanted to play anyway? We all know he has a history of leaning towards that side as he put off getting an MRI for a month only to find out when he finally did so, he had a fractured back. (re: 2011).
I’m not going to jump to conclusions here until we find out just what this problem is.
But if DiComo’s sources are correct (and who is his source anyway?), I’d like to know if Mets trainers were aware of any rib cage soreness before he left.
Yup, that’s the thing SRT. I am guessing these guys have soreness all the time and as a player gets older things tighten up early in the year and once you get warm it disappears. Most likely in ST he would have just had them do some treatment on it and maybe missed one or two days to see how the treatment did. In those cases we most likely never even here about the “injury”.
srt, I highly doubt Mets trainers knew Wright was hurting. They would have told TC, and Sandy would have eventually been informed. The Mets would have pulled Wright from the WBC immediately.
Lets just hope it’s not serious and won’t derail his season. Also, should the U.S. beat PR tonight, I hope they get a better replacement for Wright for the semi-finals. Bloomquist is not going to cut it, and that lineup needs help.
Hi Metro,
You are right, David didn’t.
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And in this case I think Sandy Alderson has every right to be angry and I would not blame him.
Hi Joey — how are you? Is your cold finally over?
I don’t think Sandy should get mad at Wright. Maybe Wright was wrong to play hurt — but in a case like this where he was representing his country, it’s hard to say the intention and motives were bad.
At any rate I doubt it’s serious. But they should err on the side of super caution and take him out of the tournament if there are any questions. If it is serious, then that is a different matter.
Hi Metro,
Thanks for asking. Yeah, once the head cold went away the allergies came on with such force that even my prescription medications – that I take year round – could help only so much.
As far as Sandy, I more or less wanted to show those who believe I am always against the front office that I can take their side on some issues too. That’s why the other day I mentioned the Wilpons showed a touch of genuine class when they came up with the idea of the Jackie Robinson Rotunda.
So if Sandy did get angry (not that he should, as you suggest), it’s just that I wouldn’t blame him. I am sure David’s intentions were 100 percent honorable, but unfortunately, one in his position does not have the luxury to always do what one feels is right.
Hey Joey, good to hear your cold was vanquished. Sorry to hear about your allergies. I have them too, but they are not a problem until ragweed season from Aug-Oct. Hope they let up soon and you feel better.
I have no issue with the Robinson Rotunda and think it was a good idea. But the Wilpons did err when they left out a lot of Met things in the initial stadium. However, they did rectify that nicely and quickly so on balance, it all worked out.
i understand some are upset with Wright but it’s mostly a few Mets fans. I think more fans than not around baseball like the WBC and think it’s worth it to participate. That’s the way I feel, even if I weren’t into the games. And I’m sure Wright feels it was worthwhile and would do it again. However I wouldn’t mind seeing the games moved to after the season. They play winter ball, right? So the schedule in winter ball could be adjusted to make room for the WBC.
At any rate, I’m glad Wright participated. He became Captain America, lol, and represented his team and country well.
Hi Metro,
I have the pleasure of being an administrator at an Ivy League campus with trees, plants, flower and grass so I have no choice!
BTW – David Wright is a great guy but no Captain America – the Marvel superhero who fights gangsters and aliens for a living performing feats of super human proportion (even way back in the 1940 serial – catch it if you can, it’s fun) would never get a sore back playing baseball!
….and i HIGHLY DOUBT Sandy will throw David under the bus for NOT INFORMING a week ago…
Yeah, no use speculating right now until we now if it’s an injury problem, what kind of injury, how long he might be out. Crossing my fingers it’s nothing serious. He had that same rib cage problem last spring which had him sitting for a month last March but was ready for opening day.
Here’s hoping it’s nothing more serious than that.
Might be the last we see him in the WBC though. In fact, I think odds are pretty good that he’s done there. Then again, Team USA might be done after tonight anyway if they can’t get by P.R.
My 2 Cents on it SRT…..
I don’t blame Wright (or ANY player) for trying to play through some pain…They all do at some point in the season…
But I do blame him for not reporting it especially when it was reported as a Back problem and he has a history with that back.
I understand why they stay quiet because these days teams tend to be more OVER cautious and pull you for a headache, but still anytime there is some pain you should at least notify the team and then talk them into letting you play through it.
Playing with what seems like minor pain can have drastic affects on your mechanics (to compensate) that lead to much more serious and debilitating injury.
Everyone wants thier players to have the heart of a lion…But the player shouldn’t be dismissing pain as normal because pain is there to tell you that things are not normal! That’s it’s purpose!
Inform and let them track the problem and at least give the coaches a heads up towards looking if you are changing your mechanics in a way that risks further injury.
Metsie, I am sure anyone who has ever played sports, maybe even you yourself, will tell you that as you age and you fire things back up again (especially after you have a bad injury) there’s going to be some stiffness or even discomfort in the area. Athletes then have to decide is this hurt or injured?
Sorry TRS thats what Doctors are supposed to do….If the player wants to minimize the issue then minimize it to the Doctors and convince them to let you play!
At minimum they would at least do an MRI which costs the team practically nothing compared to the player’s salary just to be sure…It takes little time to take the picture and be SURE it’s just soreness and not something bigger.
Players are not qualified to make those assessments! Santana did that and pitched 3 or 4 games with an exploded shoulder capsule….
How much better would it have been if he reported it right away and not made the situation worse?
It’s not a major knock I’m making on Wright, Hell every player does the same macho stupidity…
And some teams are even worse and throw guys out there regardless….Look at how many football players are told to play when they shouldn’t?
A happy medium needs to be come to…And it starts with the player reporting anything out of the ordinaryso at least some testing can be done to ensure it’s just OLD SORENESS and not something worse…
Like I said Metsie, but if every player with a minor tightness that happens when the player begins his spring workouts went to the doc there would be no players to play. As an athlete they still spend some time deciding if it’s sore or injured.
If more players did the right thing and reported all incidents they would be LESS apt to pull them from playing so quickly!
The reason why they pull them NOW when a player reports it is BECAUSE of what your saying….
If the player says something it is obviously MORE than just a simple soreness!
If you make CAUTION the routine then the Doctors will be better at determining what is just sore and what is something else….
Medical History is key to making a good diagnosis!
I’m going to withhold judgment on Wright’s decision making until we find out what the diagnosis is and get more details about when he FIRST felt any pain. If it’s serious, or if it’s been there for weeks, then you have to question it. But we also know that Wright has a high pain tolerance and has no hesitation to play hurt. When he broke his back, and was feeling pain, the trainer kept urging him to go get medical tests, but he refused for weeks initially. That’s why the diagnosis only came well after it was broken.
So sad to read this and I’m a little annoyed at the situation. Wasn’t Wright playing with a fractured back that cause him to miss a significant chunk of time a year or two ago? How can you have back soreness and wave it off and play through it knowing you already had stress fractures that area? This doesn’t make any sense at all to me. If it ends up being something big, the 2013 season is over for us. The though of Justin Turner playing everyday is making me nauseous.
I have my fingers crossed, but if word comes out today about a Mets press conference, lets just say I gonna want some answers.
I’d say this story is more reminiscent of what’s happened with Wright previously than what happened with guys like Castillo and Pagan. Not a wise decision by DW here but I wouldn’t say it doesn’t jive with his statement about wanting to be ready for the season/the Mets being important to him. I think he felt he could play without any risk of real injury and didn’t think this would be a major issue. He might be wrong (hopefully not) but I don’t think it’s fair to question his commitment to the Mets,
We’ll have to see what is up. If it was significant pain and Wright didn’t say anything, he messed up bad. If it was just some stiffness or something he usually feels, eh. Better safe than sorry at this point.
Just a hypothetical, what happens if Wright misses time? Murphy to 3rd and ‘Spin at 2B? If he misses a lot of time, promote Flores?
If Batman (Captain America) misses time then the Joker did him in. The Joker causes his back problems and long slumps too. :=)
Leave the Core out of this. No need changing up comic strips.
Leave the Core out of this. No need changing up comic strips.”
And yet you keep asking me to respect your PO’s site and the sandblasters right????????? Respect is EARNED, not given….
LOL, oh come on Alex. I think you know this is a joke. You can’t go around calling yourself the Core and expect people not to make fun or comic book references.
No no, i don’t got a problem with you poking fun at the name or anything like that, just don’t complaing to me when i refer to your site as the desert and its people sandblasters….
What does it matter if I complain? You’re gonna do it anyway
TRS86 and Alex68 opposite numbers but nevertheless a dynamic duo. Sort of like Abbott and Costello or Martin and Lewis. TRS86 is the straight man and Alex68 eats him up alive.
No, i did stop. it is you who can’t seem to contain yourself.. And also, remember, because of me the desert got a lot of publicity and has become relevant. if anything, i should get an Thank You article at least from you guys for actually helping you be alive.
I have taken liberty to do so . Call it poetic license.
Well good news — Headley was contacted by USA team officials about replacing Wright and he agreed to do it, should the U.S.move past PR.
At least they went for a high level player. I thought they messed up when they took Hosmer instead of Howard or Ike.
Wright should be removed from the tournament unless he has a miraculous recovery tonight. They should err on the side of super caution here.
The WBC is such a colossal waste of time and Wright getting hurt proves that.
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