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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-373281</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 03:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Jessep,

I can completely understand your take on banner day because it was indeed a generational thing and what many might not realize is that Banner Day was not a promotion that the Mets originated as it was a response to us - the original new breeders - who suddenly draped the Polo Grounds in 1962 and early 1963 with a humongous amount of banners - and well thought out ones as well - to the surprise of everyone for banners in other parks were few and far between.  

In fact, at first the Mets wouldn&#039;t allow fans to show up with banners at all.

Banner Day was an outgrowth of the sudden and completely unexpected genuine love and adoration us new breeders had for our new team.  It didn&#039;t bother us at all that we had a former Yankee manager who was viewed at the time as self-promoting - to us he  was suddenly seen as the lovable Casey.   And his inept players we simply saw as guys who  played their hearts out every day a lot like us - losers,   And by that I do not mean &quot;losers&quot; in a derogatory way as it was more a reflection of  the hard life most middle class people had to deal with - struggling, working hard and often feeling different than those more fortunate.  I did not understand that when I was a kid but I can look back in hindsight now and recognize those traits in both myself and my family at that time.    If one reads Jimmy Breslin&#039;s classic &quot;Can&#039;t Anybody Here Play This Game&quot; one will get an understanding of why that happened.   We &quot;losers&quot; suddenly had something of our very own.

I&#039;m just sorry that no written description or video/audio replay will enable anyone not old enough to have been a  part of it to fully appreciate how special those first, early years were, putting aside all the sociological explanations that we have today.  And while the stories might have become exaggerated over time, the essence of what one will find is 100 percent true.  

What happened 50 years ago during a less cynical - and obviously more naive time - would not happen today.   The times have changed and the groundwork that helped foster that uniqueness just doesn&#039;t exist anymore.  If we had a team like that today, they would not be seen as lovable and forgivable because they were trying so hard - they would be seen the way Howard Cossell talked about about them back in 1963 when he said the Mets were a disgrace to the game and a fraud and that people should not pay their money to see them (paraphrasing).  We&#039;ve seen all the harsh things written about so many of the players here - even by us who won&#039;t praise Wheeler or d&#039;Arnaud beyond anything more than their potential and resent the circumstances (not their fault) that brought them over to the Mets to begin with.  We&#039;d all look at them with resentment making so much money.

Too bad  Cosell couldn&#039;t see it then but the Mets were no fraud.  They were beautiful for they gave us back something much more valuable than winning ball games.  They made us feel good about ourselves and that included everybody - from the elementary school kid that I was to my father who had to work two jobs to make ends meet to my grandmother who spent the last years of her life confined to a wheelchair.  

And that is why I too share your non-interest in banner day today Jessep because I remember when it was a genuine show of affection between the fans, the players and indeed the owners as well.  It originated and sustained itself as fan based tradition because it was not a manufactured self-promoting gimmick as it is today.  Just like the original chant of &quot;lets go Mets&quot; never originated by being prompted by a loudspeaker or scoreboard.  

Let those who cherish those moments have fun with it today.  But for many of us, it is that parade that has long ago passed us by.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jessep,</p>
<p>I can completely understand your take on banner day because it was indeed a generational thing and what many might not realize is that Banner Day was not a promotion that the Mets originated as it was a response to us &#8211; the original new breeders &#8211; who suddenly draped the Polo Grounds in 1962 and early 1963 with a humongous amount of banners &#8211; and well thought out ones as well &#8211; to the surprise of everyone for banners in other parks were few and far between.  </p>
<p>In fact, at first the Mets wouldn&#8217;t allow fans to show up with banners at all.</p>
<p>Banner Day was an outgrowth of the sudden and completely unexpected genuine love and adoration us new breeders had for our new team.  It didn&#8217;t bother us at all that we had a former Yankee manager who was viewed at the time as self-promoting &#8211; to us he  was suddenly seen as the lovable Casey.   And his inept players we simply saw as guys who  played their hearts out every day a lot like us &#8211; losers,   And by that I do not mean &#8220;losers&#8221; in a derogatory way as it was more a reflection of  the hard life most middle class people had to deal with &#8211; struggling, working hard and often feeling different than those more fortunate.  I did not understand that when I was a kid but I can look back in hindsight now and recognize those traits in both myself and my family at that time.    If one reads Jimmy Breslin&#8217;s classic &#8220;Can&#8217;t Anybody Here Play This Game&#8221; one will get an understanding of why that happened.   We &#8220;losers&#8221; suddenly had something of our very own.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just sorry that no written description or video/audio replay will enable anyone not old enough to have been a  part of it to fully appreciate how special those first, early years were, putting aside all the sociological explanations that we have today.  And while the stories might have become exaggerated over time, the essence of what one will find is 100 percent true.  </p>
<p>What happened 50 years ago during a less cynical &#8211; and obviously more naive time &#8211; would not happen today.   The times have changed and the groundwork that helped foster that uniqueness just doesn&#8217;t exist anymore.  If we had a team like that today, they would not be seen as lovable and forgivable because they were trying so hard &#8211; they would be seen the way Howard Cossell talked about about them back in 1963 when he said the Mets were a disgrace to the game and a fraud and that people should not pay their money to see them (paraphrasing).  We&#8217;ve seen all the harsh things written about so many of the players here &#8211; even by us who won&#8217;t praise Wheeler or d&#8217;Arnaud beyond anything more than their potential and resent the circumstances (not their fault) that brought them over to the Mets to begin with.  We&#8217;d all look at them with resentment making so much money.</p>
<p>Too bad  Cosell couldn&#8217;t see it then but the Mets were no fraud.  They were beautiful for they gave us back something much more valuable than winning ball games.  They made us feel good about ourselves and that included everybody &#8211; from the elementary school kid that I was to my father who had to work two jobs to make ends meet to my grandmother who spent the last years of her life confined to a wheelchair.  </p>
<p>And that is why I too share your non-interest in banner day today Jessep because I remember when it was a genuine show of affection between the fans, the players and indeed the owners as well.  It originated and sustained itself as fan based tradition because it was not a manufactured self-promoting gimmick as it is today.  Just like the original chant of &#8220;lets go Mets&#8221; never originated by being prompted by a loudspeaker or scoreboard.  </p>
<p>Let those who cherish those moments have fun with it today.  But for many of us, it is that parade that has long ago passed us by.</p>
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		<title>By: gregg</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-373213</link>
		<dc:creator>gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 02:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Van, thats exactly what I&#039;m talking about. Drink 29 gallons of Dairylea milk and get a seat in the upper deck, lol. We were kids, we didn&#039;t know much better and we thought it was the greatest thing...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Van, thats exactly what I&#8217;m talking about. Drink 29 gallons of Dairylea milk and get a seat in the upper deck, lol. We were kids, we didn&#8217;t know much better and we thought it was the greatest thing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-373168</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 00:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Off Topic: Check out the MLB Budweiser Cans.
https://twitter.com/Budweiser/status/309010298373812224/photo/1]]></description>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-373131</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-373128</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: van</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-373124</link>
		<dc:creator>van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 21:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Milkbox?  Do you mean Dairylea?  First game I ever went to (1973) was thanks to my sister drinking about 40 gallons of milk to get us free tickets (way up top, probably FV of about $2 at the time).

pretty sure it would have saved my parents money to just buy the tickets, but at least my sister has strong bones.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milkbox?  Do you mean Dairylea?  First game I ever went to (1973) was thanks to my sister drinking about 40 gallons of milk to get us free tickets (way up top, probably FV of about $2 at the time).</p>
<p>pretty sure it would have saved my parents money to just buy the tickets, but at least my sister has strong bones.</p>
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		<title>By: gregg</title>
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		<dc:creator>gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 18:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Banner Day is one of the wonderful Met-centric things about being a Met. It&#039;s a unique NY Met event, like sitting up in the milkbox seats at Shea. I took part in the Banner Day parade back in middle 80&#039;s, and it was great thrill. 
A very nice piece Clare, be sure to post your Banner before the parade so we can look for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Banner Day is one of the wonderful Met-centric things about being a Met. It&#8217;s a unique NY Met event, like sitting up in the milkbox seats at Shea. I took part in the Banner Day parade back in middle 80&#8242;s, and it was great thrill.<br />
A very nice piece Clare, be sure to post your Banner before the parade so we can look for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-372957</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember reading comments from people wishing the Mets would bring Banner day back. My concern was that once they did bring it back people would not show their support by coming out and participating but with fans like Clare that shouldn&#039;t be a problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember reading comments from people wishing the Mets would bring Banner day back. My concern was that once they did bring it back people would not show their support by coming out and participating but with fans like Clare that shouldn&#8217;t be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: van</title>
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		<dc:creator>van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you are overestimating how much of the appeal was getting a &quot;message&quot; across.  The banners were not quite Vietnam war protest level.  It was always about having fun, walking on the field, showing your fandom, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are overestimating how much of the appeal was getting a &#8220;message&#8221; across.  The banners were not quite Vietnam war protest level.  It was always about having fun, walking on the field, showing your fandom, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also wish they&#039;d bring back Old Timer&#039;s day.  I think over 50 years of playing more than qualifies for enough to have that game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wish they&#8217;d bring back Old Timer&#8217;s day.  I think over 50 years of playing more than qualifies for enough to have that game.</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man that would have been great.  Someone called in on MLBN recommending getting rid of the celebrity softball game and returning to an old-timers game.  They said that the current group most likely wouldn&#039;t watch it.  I disagree.  I would love to see some guys from my youth back up there again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man that would have been great.  Someone called in on MLBN recommending getting rid of the celebrity softball game and returning to an old-timers game.  They said that the current group most likely wouldn&#8217;t watch it.  I disagree.  I would love to see some guys from my youth back up there again.</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope, social studies teacher that coaches. 
As for my teams record, not as good this year as we expected.  Still we have won more in my 3 years than the school had won in the previous 5 combined...  That says more about how bad they were before I got there than my abilities as a coach though.  Heck I have been here 3 years and I am only 4 wins shy of being the all-time winningest coach, LOL.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, social studies teacher that coaches.<br />
As for my teams record, not as good this year as we expected.  Still we have won more in my 3 years than the school had won in the previous 5 combined&#8230;  That says more about how bad they were before I got there than my abilities as a coach though.  Heck I have been here 3 years and I am only 4 wins shy of being the all-time winningest coach, LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: jessep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah the goal was always to get press. You wanted to do something that was never done before. One of the greatest nights I ever had working was the night of the Pickle Pentathlon. 

Our team was terrible but it was one of the loudest nights the stadium ever had]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the goal was always to get press. You wanted to do something that was never done before. One of the greatest nights I ever had working was the night of the Pickle Pentathlon. </p>
<p>Our team was terrible but it was one of the loudest nights the stadium ever had</p>
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		<title>By: jessep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Possibly. Again I am not saying anybody our age won&#039;t like it. I am saying the generation of 40+ most likely get more into it than our generation born in the 80&#039;s and beyond.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly. Again I am not saying anybody our age won&#8217;t like it. I am saying the generation of 40+ most likely get more into it than our generation born in the 80&#8242;s and beyond.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-372883</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[History major?? I thought you were a Gym Teacher for a basketball team that hits barely 500 no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History major?? I thought you were a Gym Teacher for a basketball team that hits barely 500 no?</p>
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		<title>By: TRS86</title>
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		<dc:creator>TRS86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I am a 30 something fan and I love it.  I truly appreciate the history of the Mets and this is indeed part of it&#039;s history.  Of course I am a history major too so perhaps that helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am a 30 something fan and I love it.  I truly appreciate the history of the Mets and this is indeed part of it&#8217;s history.  Of course I am a history major too so perhaps that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Met Maniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Met Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clare, great post and I don&#039;t recall seeing you before so congrats on your first MMO post. I must say I love the additions of all these new writers who remember the 60s and 70s fondly, when baseball was baseball and fans were fans. 

I remember WOR always showing the Banner Day parade in it&#039;s entirety. Back then the Mets didn&#039;t own their own network and yet it got televised. Now they do and they don&#039;t televise it. Blame the owners. They never cared about our traditions or fan sentiment anyway. Cold as ice like one writer in your midst.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clare, great post and I don&#8217;t recall seeing you before so congrats on your first MMO post. I must say I love the additions of all these new writers who remember the 60s and 70s fondly, when baseball was baseball and fans were fans. </p>
<p>I remember WOR always showing the Banner Day parade in it&#8217;s entirety. Back then the Mets didn&#8217;t own their own network and yet it got televised. Now they do and they don&#8217;t televise it. Blame the owners. They never cared about our traditions or fan sentiment anyway. Cold as ice like one writer in your midst.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You dont get it and you never will.&quot;

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dont get it and you never will.&#8221;</p>
<p>THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^</p>
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		<title>By: Met Maniac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Met Maniac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You dont get it and you never will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dont get it and you never will.</p>
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		<title>By: Clare Lafferty</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/03/featured-post-a-banner-day-for-me-and-my-mets.html#comment-372869</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare Lafferty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree - SNY should have broadcast it all - it was only really mentioned in passing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree &#8211; SNY should have broadcast it all &#8211; it was only really mentioned in passing.</p>
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