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Your being subjective but the voters believe they were being OBJECTIVE!
They based thier opinion on the FACTS they saw!
They didn’t vote for the WRONG PLAYERS due to some bias or ideology as you suggest!
Nor did they do it because they were denied the ability to name CoMVPs

So sorry dude…
Your all about the SUBJECTIVE….You can’t prove a thing you said until you can get quotes from all the voters saying We wanted to give it to thier homegrown pitchers but could not so gave it to the wrong guy instead!

Which is what you are implying here!

Don’t see how that discredits my point at all. What did I say?

“some moves didn’t pay off but so did others. Without the attempts taken – which meant the good “performances” along with the poor “performances” there would not have been any playoff scenarios for any of those teams. Each went outside the organization as the young kids were progressing (Washington too) to get the established players to help fit in the various pieces of the puzzle.”

And didn’t I conclude that there are going to be pluses and minuses but that it came with the territory?

“just follow the steps taken by the Giants, Tigers, Cincinnati and Washington and accept there are going to be risks and that they cannot avoid being burned by taking some of them, like every team.”

There are no contradictions. Even with Zito. I said though the money and length of the contract was ridiculous (as I noted all are) but that he premise of getting Zito at that time wasn’t a bad idea but they should not have expected to get the Zito of those earlier years in Oakland.

Because they couldn’t agree on a single overall winner and had to name more…

So the subjective is all in your mind Donal not thiers.

Just like Davey!

End of story they could have named as many co MVPs as they wanted….
They didn’t….This argument is over!

Only thing you proved here was you disagreed with the voters end results!

“You seem to think they decided to vote for the wrong guy and have yet to give a reason for doing that!”

I stated it quite clearly. the pitching staff was the reason the Giants won, but the writers don’t give the award to 12 guys, so they went with an offensive player who had an easy to understand stat.

Does it matter really? No, not at all. As I said, WS MVP, like all most post season award, is subjective. It’s more about the writers feeling important than the players themselves.

I did not make that a positive – unless you think being stuck with a fifith starter like that over seven years instead of using the money to have gotten a better player qualifies that as me calling it so. I just said that instead of an ace, the Giants got a fifth starter which is not what they were seeking with him.

I even said it appeared Zito was on the way down his last three seasons in Oakland.

I drew only ONE conclusion….
WHO THEY VOTED FOR!

You seem to think they decided to vote for the wrong guy and have yet to give a reason for doing that!

You call ILLOGIC…. LOGICAL….

If Teufel was going to get his shot he would have gotten it the year Terry was hired…..

Did Davey Johnson become a coach before he became the manager or did he do exactly what Backman is doing?