Comments on: Beyond the Stats: Brandon Nimmo Shows His Stuff

By: GB1969

GB1969 — Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:01:40 +0000

Nimmo’s .248 in Brooklyn does’t neccesarily indicate how he’ll do in the future. Ike Davis was 21, and had hit .400+ in high school, and .339 in 2 seasons of college ball. Highly rated prospect, but for the Cyclones he only hit .253. 55 games, 0 HR, and 17 RBI – it’s a tough place to hit.
And don’t judge Ike by what we saw last year – he will be a high avg hitter

By: john pileggi

john pileggi — Sun, 10 Mar 2013 00:43:45 +0000

You sometimes forget just how young these kids are. I expect everyone to be a Bryce Harper and become a star at a tender age. Patience and reasonable expectations are hard to have.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:28:48 +0000

I was referring to Hawkins prospect ranking. You know, what you posted. Otherwise, your point about Flores still goes down the tubes because Nimmo was also drafted.

By: Teddy K

Teddy K — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 06:21:56 +0000

Other thing I would point out is that they did, pick someone that was riskier to signal a transition, but they obviously had in mind that Nimmo would be a high upside pick as well. It’s not just to signal transition, it’s also picking the best one your scouts liked.
And how could they have known Fernandez would be a good pick? I mean, the draft is a lottery, where people, instead of picking their numbers, pick out the players with the tools they want and hope for success. Not every big power (pitcher or hitter) name is going to pan out, and that’s a proven fact year after year.

By: Just-Da-Damaja

Just-Da-Damaja — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:11:10 +0000

considering that flores was a IFA and not a 1st round draft pick, no…

Fernandez and hawkins have higher ceilings than flores.

Flores has a higher ceiling than Nimmo

Nimmo is the basement floor

By: Just-Da-Damaja

Just-Da-Damaja — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 03:09:30 +0000

LOL

of course to YOU, CONTEXT doesnt matter !!!

to anyone else who is trying to make a solid comparison it would !

2000 – Billy Traber
2001 – Aaron Heilman
2002 – HS
2003 – HS
2004 – Phil Humber
2005 – Mike Pelfrey
2007 – Eddie Kunz
2008 – Ike Davis
2008 – Reese
2008 – Brad Holt
2010 – Matt Harvey

2011 – Brandon Nimmo ( SUPER HIGH RISK )
2012 – Gavin C – ( SUPER HIGH RISK )

then u have Paul Depo flat out saying that the Nimmo pick was more symbolic of a change in draft strategy

once again, perception and public opinion over rules production.

and in the end, u end up with none

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 00:53:23 +0000

You’re trying to predict a career. Teddy is just projecting for the up coming season.

There’s a difference.

By: Trs86

Trs86 — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 00:48:01 +0000

Doesn’t matter, just saying you can play the coulda woulda shoulda game with every draft eventually. These two it’s too early but chances are there will be players picked ahead of them who are worse and after who are better. Doesn’t make them bad picks.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 00:46:18 +0000

“I’m just sayin…”

absolutely nothing.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 00:44:51 +0000

Wouldn’t that be higher than Flores? By the standard you established, that makes your point invalid.

By: Just-Da-Damaja

Just-Da-Damaja — Thu, 07 Mar 2013 00:20:26 +0000

yes, the mets for YEARS before and during Omar went for safe and sign-able 1st round draft picks.

Nimmo according to Paul was about representing a symbolic shift and going for the high ceiling high risk guy…

and Pelfrey if i remember correct had 2 15 win seasons and in 2009 was a groundball pitcher with no infield

In 2010, Pelfrey injured his shoulder and took anti-flamm pills to quiet the pain.

In 2011, Pelfrey had surgery on his shoulder

So yes, picking Pelfrey was sticking to the wilpon script

By: Trs86

Trs86 — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:39:54 +0000

Ooooo, I love playing this game. Lets start with Omar’s first draft. Pelfrey at 9 with McCutchen, Bruce, Garza, Ellsbury and Bucholtz just to name a few picked after him.

Lets just see how these guys develop.

By: srt

srt — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:24:52 +0000

I guess we have a different opinion on this.

I read this as a scouting report, relating where he stands on the 5 tools, what he did with his first year after being drafted.
Mayo did grade him but the author of this article cautions us that he’s ‘very young and very, very raw’.

To me, all this translates to what to keep an eye on for this year – not necessarily how he’s expected to do this year – or beyond this year.

In any case, I’m crossing my fingers some of that talent will be realized. We could use an OF prospect in the system with a few plus tools.

By: Just-Da-Damaja

Just-Da-Damaja — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:09:50 +0000

and for all those saying its too early to get antsy…

courney hawkins is ranked 63rd on the top 100 list

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2013/2614305.html

Jose Fernandez is ranked 13th on the top 100 list…

both are YOUNGER or the same age as Nimmo

Not saying Nimmo = bust….

I’m just sayin…

By: Just-Da-Damaja

Just-Da-Damaja — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:05:01 +0000

Flores also has the “potential” to be a 2B where offense is at a premium…

Flores started at SS at age 16….then grew out of it to 3B…then 2B…then 3B…then back to 2B…now they are talking about putting him in the OF…

and despite all that…the kid STILL rakes…

Nimmo by all scouts accounts is “projected” to be a corner OF…and if he is…his “projected” offense is not exactly impressive

sorry, i just dont see the hype yet with this kid..

I do however see the hype with the kid drafted after him

http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130305&content_id=42328888&vkey=news_mia&c_id=mia

By: Just-Da-Damaja

Just-Da-Damaja — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:58:20 +0000

“It’s just too early to predict anything – one way or the other.”

but isnt that what we are doing here….?

his 2013 numbers are projected…

projection = prediction ?

no?

By: Teddy K

Teddy K — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:21:53 +0000

I hope they do, the main question is his knee, when he tore his ACL pre draft. I hope for everyone’s sake that i’m wrong on the stolen base projections.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:10:46 +0000

Donal, can you e-mail me when you get a chance? XtreemIcon@aol.com

Thanks.

By: Teddy K

Teddy K — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 21:59:16 +0000

Thanks man, always appreciate your feedback.

By: Teddy K

Teddy K — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 21:57:34 +0000

Yes, I was appeased