Feb
26
2013

Wilmer Flores Watch: Second Base Analysis

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Wilmer Flores played second base yesterday in a Spring Training game for the Mets. Flores did not embarrass himself defensively and looked to have an idea offensively. So after roughly six innings it is safe to christen a man with 0 AB above Double-A with the starting second base job?

No. Nope. Nah. Negative. Not Yet.

Flores has even less MiLB experience at 2B than Daniel Murphy did when he tried a similar transition, and even at that point Murphy had significant innings at first base (same side of the infield, similar reactions). Wilmer Flores saw his first minor league action at new positions this year with seven games at first base, 27 games at second base and 87 games at third base. For a man who played 300+ career MiLB games at shortstop to not even take one inning at the position shows where Flores will wind up in the grand scheme of things.

The biggest knock has been movement in general, but specifically lateral movement and Flores ability to compensate for lack of speed with efficient footwork. In yesterday’s game, Flores made a few solid plays and no miscues in his four chances to handle the position. Just for an analysis, we will look into each chance.

1. Man on first, groundball hit directly at Flores, runs in front of the runner and shovel-passes the ball to Brandon Hicks (SS) covering second, turning the double play.

Thoughts: Flores got to the ball which wasn’t hit very sharply, got rid of the ball smoothly and did it in one fluent motion. This play shows more awareness and body control but did show Flores’ soft hands.

2. Man on first, groundball hit directly at David Wright (3B), throws to Flores covering 2B, throws to Ike Davis to complete double play

Thoughts: This was the most challenging play Flores would have all day and shows why he may still need some more reps to get smoother. Wright gives Flores an average to solid feed, although it was thrown directly into Flores numbers and not off to a side where Flores could easily avoid a baserunner. Flores had to stand tall, and due to the throw handcuffing was forced to throw flat-footed to Ike Davis and still got the runner by half a stride. Flores exhibited a strong arm and turned that play. The footwork around the bag was a bit rough as he could have taken the slide-step to the outfield-side of the bag to avoid contact but instead did an odd shuffle and stayed on the base

3. Ball hit to Flores left (glove side) hard, Flores goes down, gets the ball, spins and throws to Ike Davis for the out.

Thoughts: The reaction play will always be a great way to test a second baseman and this shot was a decent test. Though hit within Flores vicinity, the reaction to drop and get it with a slide and spin was a good move. If Flores goes for an outright dive, he runs a higher risk of booting the ball. By spinning as he catches it, he puts himself in the best position to throw and uses more of his body to block the ball in the event it doesn’t wind up in his glove.

4. Ball hit directly at Flores, gathers and throws to Ike Davis

Thoughts: This is a standard play regardless of which base a player would be covering. Scoop, regroup, throw. Flores didn’t look hesitant or worried and knew he had time to throw out the runner.

5. Ball hit on a big bounce near the plate, Flores rushes in but has almost no chance to throw out baserunner

Thoughts: This was the toughest play but not the most challenging for one reason. The player running on the play notched three infield hits, and not one was a bunt. Flores was forced to charge and throw from where he reached the ball which was above his head. For what it’s worth, Flores missed getting the runner by about a full stride, but on first watch it appeared to be a bang-bang play.

Conclusion: For his first six innings in a spring training game, Flores didn’t look bad with the glove. He made the routine plays, made a few difficult ones and was both the feeder and the pivot man for a double play. Wilmer looked confident and not like he was afraid to make mistakes. Just for reference, Reese Havens has been playing second base for nearly his entire MiLB career. He made two miscues yesterday in half the innings. Is Flores the savior? No. Can he be a useful MLB player with the glove? Useful in terms of adequate…sure lets go with that. Flores will probably see a fair-share of reps at both second and third base now that David Wright will be leaving for the WBC.

*side note – Flores went 0-2 at the plate, both fly-outs to the right fielder. Flores hit them both the opposite way and I do not know if that was a product of hitting the ball where it is pitched, or a specific game plan to go opposite way.

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About the Author: Sean Kenny

Sean Kenny is a student/writer currently attending school at the City College of New York. For more Mets news, notes and thoughts follow him on twitter @TheSeanKenny

10 Comments + Add Comment

  • Disagree with your analysis on #2 – that throw from Wright was far from good and Flores made an excellent adjustment, showed great footwork and made a very strong throw off his back foot to get the out.

  • Didn’t we already have a post like this a little while ago? Is today Wilmer Flores’ birthday? lol

  • Yes, that was poor throw from the Captain but this young man handled it well. He could be the answer but thats why they have spring training.

  • I did not watch the play, but apparently there was a ball hit by that really fast guy where Flores had to dive, whereas most 2B would be quick enough to backhand it.

    Apparently the knock on Flores, is not his arm or glove, but that he his slow and has bad range. Granted Derek Jeter has the worst range of any SS in the last decade, but he has a good arm and very smooth and steady and he can hit.

    If he can hit .280+ with 15+ HR then his lack of foot speed/athleticism wont be an issue, but the good thing is he clearly is not a liability out there and even if he is slightly below average overall, the bat is all that matters…

    • All of us should pray any of our Middle IF guys have the productivity, class, grit, & clutch of Derek Jeter into their late 30s. I may be a Yankee ‘disser’ but calling ‘em the way they are on this one.

  • Agreed with the above comment. Plus, Jason Parks of BP says Flores is probably a 20-25 HR guy. Basically Alfonzo without the elite batting average and great defense. I’ll take it.

  • Off Topic: Mets prospect Goeddel struck in face may need surgery.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/61527/mets-prospect-struck-in-face-may-need-surgery

  • Another promising player in the Mets system….it is nice to see some talent especially on the everyday side.

  • One game is one game and all but the idea of Flores being able to play a mediocre second base is off to a positive start. It is not like the incumbent reminds anyone of Mazerowski. Flores would have to hit to succeed but that projection is promising.

  • Flores from a pure raw power standpoint reminds me of Cabrera and Stanton. & to my surprise he has looked good at 2nd base so far. He will probably outgrow the position but for now he should be our 2nd baseman. I’ve been saying that for a while & it’s not cause he went 4-4 in an intersquad game. But with no power in the outfileld it helps to have porew at catcher and 2b.

    I’m glad to see they were trying to trade tejada & murphy for Upton. They are not a part of our long term plans & didnt understand why they didnt try and trade tejada for Bauer.

    Flores & Lupo have so much raw power I cant wait to see them in a line up together. & to think when they are in a line up together we will have some of these starters Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, Syndergaard, Mazzoni, Fullmer, Montero Tapia

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