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		<title>By: T.I.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.I.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually no, but trolls like you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually no, but trolls like you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandy Alderson SUCKS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandy Alderson SUCKS</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;He stole 41 bases when batting 1st. The Mets as a team stole 14 when batting 1st.&quot;

And was caught 13 times. That is almost 25% of the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He stole 41 bases when batting 1st. The Mets as a team stole 14 when batting 1st.&#8221;</p>
<p>And was caught 13 times. That is almost 25% of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: DrDooby</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDooby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bourn would have been a good fit. And the 4-year, 48 million $ deal he receives is absolutely alright, considering what other CF - some of them lesser players than Bourn overall - have received this winter. 

That said, this was a case of the Mets potentially buying &quot;early&quot;, i.e. before they have to &quot;buy&quot;. They probably served as a nice fallback for Boras, had he not received comparable offers elsewhere, then being worth the wait on a decision on the 1st round pick. 
But this certainly was the safer choice. And the Indians - having already signed Nick Swisher -will only lose their &quot;competitive balance&quot; extra 2nd ound pick (along with their regular 2nd round pick) and still have their protected 1st rounder and their regular 3rd rounder to work with. 

As for the Mets, they are still probably two fulltime outfielders short of having a solid to good major league outfield. One intriguing idea could be going after Brantley or Stubbs with CLE, one of which seems relegated to bench duty for now but would probably be an upgrade over Nieuwenhuis in CF, allowing Captain Kirk to shift to RF and Baxter to the bench where he belongs. 

Another option could be a &quot;salary clearance&quot; trade for CLE next winter, sending both Swisher &amp; Bourn to the Mets if CLE doesn´t contend in 2013 and finally starts a true rebuilding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bourn would have been a good fit. And the 4-year, 48 million $ deal he receives is absolutely alright, considering what other CF &#8211; some of them lesser players than Bourn overall &#8211; have received this winter. </p>
<p>That said, this was a case of the Mets potentially buying &#8220;early&#8221;, i.e. before they have to &#8220;buy&#8221;. They probably served as a nice fallback for Boras, had he not received comparable offers elsewhere, then being worth the wait on a decision on the 1st round pick.<br />
But this certainly was the safer choice. And the Indians &#8211; having already signed Nick Swisher -will only lose their &#8220;competitive balance&#8221; extra 2nd ound pick (along with their regular 2nd round pick) and still have their protected 1st rounder and their regular 3rd rounder to work with. </p>
<p>As for the Mets, they are still probably two fulltime outfielders short of having a solid to good major league outfield. One intriguing idea could be going after Brantley or Stubbs with CLE, one of which seems relegated to bench duty for now but would probably be an upgrade over Nieuwenhuis in CF, allowing Captain Kirk to shift to RF and Baxter to the bench where he belongs. </p>
<p>Another option could be a &#8220;salary clearance&#8221; trade for CLE next winter, sending both Swisher &amp; Bourn to the Mets if CLE doesn´t contend in 2013 and finally starts a true rebuilding.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave In Spain</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/02/where-theres-black-smoke-theres-nothing.html#comment-360479</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave In Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The worst thing about this is that the Mets didn´t get their ducks in a row first. By waiting to file a challenge to the draft-pick rule until they had an agreement, in fear of giving Boras more leverage, they postponed the process until MLB was in the midst of arbitration hearings. So all the arbitrators were busy and what might have taken 2-3 days instead would have taken 2-3 weeks. So, while Bourn reportedly preferred the Mets, with ST starting he chose the Indians rather than wait until March to either start ST or choose another team (based on the ruling). E-Mets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst thing about this is that the Mets didn´t get their ducks in a row first. By waiting to file a challenge to the draft-pick rule until they had an agreement, in fear of giving Boras more leverage, they postponed the process until MLB was in the midst of arbitration hearings. So all the arbitrators were busy and what might have taken 2-3 days instead would have taken 2-3 weeks. So, while Bourn reportedly preferred the Mets, with ST starting he chose the Indians rather than wait until March to either start ST or choose another team (based on the ruling). E-Mets.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/02/where-theres-black-smoke-theres-nothing.html#comment-360478</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed from the beginning that Bourn would not be a good fit for the Mets for all the reasons stated above and that is why I was so surprised about all the speculation that the Mets were serious about him.  Yes, they spoke with Boras, flew down to meet him, which does show sincere interest.  But teams have been known to play these little games with fans before - wine and dine a player and make an offer that&#039;s not to be taken seriously.  

Again, Sandy was explicit about not wanting to lose that protected draft pick.   Understood and not questioning that.  What has to be questioned is why never submitting a petition ASAP instead of waiting.   What were the reasons?   Why is it they never did?   Where they  prepared to sign Bourn and then wait for a ruling on the decision after that?  Did they believe Bourn would sign an agreement with them contingent on a future ruling?  

And there is the question of what would the Mets then do if the ruling went in their favor?  How would it look for them not to seriously pursue any type of big money free agent after working hard to get the decision in their favor?  Would that put them  in the corner to make good on their promises?  

It&#039;s because of so many questions and so little action that one has a valid point to suspect what we read about the last few weeks - including the dealings with Boras - as simply being another charade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed from the beginning that Bourn would not be a good fit for the Mets for all the reasons stated above and that is why I was so surprised about all the speculation that the Mets were serious about him.  Yes, they spoke with Boras, flew down to meet him, which does show sincere interest.  But teams have been known to play these little games with fans before &#8211; wine and dine a player and make an offer that&#8217;s not to be taken seriously.  </p>
<p>Again, Sandy was explicit about not wanting to lose that protected draft pick.   Understood and not questioning that.  What has to be questioned is why never submitting a petition ASAP instead of waiting.   What were the reasons?   Why is it they never did?   Where they  prepared to sign Bourn and then wait for a ruling on the decision after that?  Did they believe Bourn would sign an agreement with them contingent on a future ruling?  </p>
<p>And there is the question of what would the Mets then do if the ruling went in their favor?  How would it look for them not to seriously pursue any type of big money free agent after working hard to get the decision in their favor?  Would that put them  in the corner to make good on their promises?  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s because of so many questions and so little action that one has a valid point to suspect what we read about the last few weeks &#8211; including the dealings with Boras &#8211; as simply being another charade.</p>
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		<title>By: Edwin Alejandro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edwin Alejandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mets are losers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mets are losers</p>
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		<title>By: Mets Faithful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mets Faithful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reyes has 100 times more talent?!?! Thats just plain silly!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reyes has 100 times more talent?!?! Thats just plain silly!</p>
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		<title>By: LA Met Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>LA Met Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sad reality of our present day scenes as Mets fans - even with all his flaws, Bourn would by far be our best OFer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad reality of our present day scenes as Mets fans &#8211; even with all his flaws, Bourn would by far be our best OFer.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Geus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Geus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was just never going to happen. Never felt real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was just never going to happen. Never felt real.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No doubt the strikeouts are glaring. The plus about Bourn was having a 2 time Gold Glove center fielder that is a career leadoff hitter at what turns out would of been $12M a year for 4 years.

Bourn though despite the strikeouts batting 1st he posed a .346/OBP that was better than the MLB .324/OBP posted last year and the .323/OBP the Mets posted last year in the same category. He also brought speed. He stole 41 bases when batting 1st. The Mets as a team stole 14 when batting 1st.

He lacked power though as well which is somewhat weird then to see him strikeout so much.

Bourn really did have his pluses and minuses Probably more so than any free agent I&#039;ve see sign this off season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt the strikeouts are glaring. The plus about Bourn was having a 2 time Gold Glove center fielder that is a career leadoff hitter at what turns out would of been $12M a year for 4 years.</p>
<p>Bourn though despite the strikeouts batting 1st he posed a .346/OBP that was better than the MLB .324/OBP posted last year and the .323/OBP the Mets posted last year in the same category. He also brought speed. He stole 41 bases when batting 1st. The Mets as a team stole 14 when batting 1st.</p>
<p>He lacked power though as well which is somewhat weird then to see him strikeout so much.</p>
<p>Bourn really did have his pluses and minuses Probably more so than any free agent I&#8217;ve see sign this off season.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#039;no white smoke this time.&#039;

We could use a little divine intervention right about now.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;no white smoke this time.&#8217;</p>
<p>We could use a little divine intervention right about now.  <img src='http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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