Comments on: Mets Are One Of Four Teams Who Can Land Giancarlo Stanton

By: Arizonakid

Arizonakid — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 02:02:21 +0000

If you’re the Marlins and can get Sandy to give up 3 of the Mets top prospects then you do it. If you’re the Mets you look at the trade on paper and throw it in the garbage and move on. Quantity does not equal value. Miami will trade hi just before the trading deadline to maximize their returns.

By: jessep

jessep — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:20:05 +0000

Damaja – not sure what you mean? I think Stanton’s play speaks for itself. I’m talking based on their superstar draw. I think Stanton falls in line with Piazza-Straw-Doc and I think he could end up having a greater career than all 3.

By: Hitman

Hitman — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:11:59 +0000

“Why would the marlins trade fernandez AND stanton for wheeler?”

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/02/scott-boras-to-represent-jose-fernandez.html

Won’t be long before Fernandez heads out of South Beach.

By: juan

juan — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:41:29 +0000

I would send Noah, d’Arnaud, Flores and whoever else they want, but not Wheeler or Fulmer, so the Mets could have in a couple of season a rotation like: Wheeler, Harvey, Niese, Fulmer, Gee, and a lineup like: Cowgill, Murph, Wright, Davis, Stanton, Duda, Plawecki, Tejada and hopefully, with some money to spend to bring experienced major leaguers to fill holes. Sounds a little scary team to me.

By: Alan from AZ

Alan from AZ — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 15:37:27 +0000

In total agreement with you on this Matt!!

Like it or not Met fans should accept the fact that Sandy A’s plan was to slash payroll and make trades for the future of this team. His first serious acquisition for the future was Wheeler. the second was to find a long term solution behind the plate and he was able to find D’Arnaud and top off that trade by getting Noah Syndergard too.

Like you emphatically stated the Mets have always won with pitching and Sandy feels that a staff that headlines Matt Harvey, Jon Niese, Zack Wheeler and in a year or so Noah Syndergard will be dominating. I see that happening easily and if for some reason it doesn’t pan out….the fans will be looking to lynch Sandy for sure!

NO DEAL INCLUDES ANY OF THE FOUR IF YOU ASK ME!

By: Markcomic1

Markcomic1 — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:43:53 +0000

Don’t want stanton if it costs D’Arnuad, Wheeler and Syndegard..Sorry thats way too much..I would give them familia, flores, syndegard..thats it.

By: DrDooby

DrDooby — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 06:09:07 +0000

Juan Pierre ?
Don’t think I’d want to have him start over Nieuwenhuis or even Baxter.
Solely relies on slashing singles. Typically he posts a .300 BA with a .340 OBP and no pop one year and is useful and then .280 BA with a .320 OBP and no pop and is not.
He has a 20 throwing arm and his range isn’t better than average these days in spite of the remaining foot speed.
He’d be a non factor in this trade. Similar to the Mets including Brandon Hicks or a “prospect” like Greg Peavey.

And again, the Mets can offer the Marlins their choice of a bunch of A Ball prospects, but from a team building standpoint and what has been done over the past couple of years, parting with more than one key young major league or almost major league piece makes little sense.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:22:43 +0000

“He would legitimize the Mets instantly and would make people believe the future is now. ”

Well giving away the hypotheticals mentioned it would most definitly be a sign that they have SCRAPPED the rebuild and reversed course…
The question is would they then continue in the offseason (even at the deadline) and go after talent as opposed to cheap options the way they have?

The Fans are not going to come back because of one blockbuster….It’s going to take another good move and truth is it is almost too late to really make a significant impact…The HOPE of a new player must exist at the time Full Season tickets are due to be sold, not in ST.

He most certainly is the type of player to make someone go and buy a few more one offs but by himself no one is plunking down for a major purchase.

The greatest impact on Ticket sales would be next year where a decent showing (not talking playoffs just above .500) would be enough to have people renew plus some new sales to go with them. Make another good move and they might even start turing a profit.

It all depends on what they NEXT after a move like Stanton….
We all thought the same thing after Wright was resigned that it would give the fans some hope they were done getting worse…
Then they turned around and traded dickey going right back to the old Get rid of your BEST for LATER.

I will say this IF they do sell out that farm for Stanton it will be because tickets sales were so bad they will lose 50Mil!

Only a Stanton could make up a lot of that difference if he can draw 200-250K more people to the seats.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:09:07 +0000

That was in LA ….no reason for Marlins to sell him off for the scraps they got for him….
He wasn’t a problem there and the reports your talking about in LA are really not all that different than the crap Dick Young wrote when Seaver wanted more money.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:06:53 +0000

Ok so tell me what some other team offered that we must offer Wheeler, D’Arnaud AND Snydergaard plus something else….

SHow what that offer is that we MUST give all that away?

By: jessep

jessep — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:50:15 +0000

Oh that is absolutely what I am saying. We saw them get off to a good start last year and it didn’t make a big impact in sales.

There’s a difference between a bunch of overachievers playing well and a superstar planting his feet in new york city.

It’s just different. I don’t think he’s coming here – but he’d change everything. Those types of players don’t come around often. Two good players do not equal a superstar.

By: van

van — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:44:21 +0000

I think what you are saying there is if they start out quick with the current bunch, people would not buy into it (IOW, be waiting for the other shoe to drop), but if they get a guy like Stanton and start quick, they might get convinced the team is for real, and be willing to open up the wallet and buy tickets?

By: jessep

jessep — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:23:51 +0000

I don’t know how you equate tickets to a player to be honest. We have to be honest, the fan base is shattered right now. The hope people have would turn more into a “now” feeling. Maybe he wouldn’t sell tickets right away. But a hot April would… it wouldn’t be like “lets wait and see” it’d be like “i can’t wait to go see this”

By: van

van — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:19:18 +0000

absolutely bringing him in would be like dropping an A bomb into the fanbase.

Now, how many tickets it sells, that is debatable, but for sure it would cause a major stir.

does not necessarily mean it is the right answer for the team (in terms of the future and wins) but it would change the dynamic right now for sure.

By: jessep

jessep — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:10:20 +0000

Yeah sorry pal I gotta side with the guys who usually hate me on this. Stanton would change the face of the franchise. He would legitimize the Mets instantly and would make people believe the future is now.

Comparing what Reyes did with a terrible fan base doesn’t really work for me. Stanton’s superstar draw outweighs Reyes+Wright.

By: Noah

Noah — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:05:32 +0000

You are banking on Syndergaard and Flores becoming more established prospects by the end of the year, a bet that could certainly be possible with both players’ rapid progression. Maybe at this point next year, Syndergaard will be a top 10 overall prospect and Flores will be top 50 after tearing up the PCL and having a decent Major League debut.

By: Noah

Noah — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:02:06 +0000

You probably shouldn’t exclude the leave out the outfield and catching positions when comparing the Mets and Giants’ offenses. Their advantage at catcher is enormous, and you exaggerated our slight advantage at 3rd Base. They have Angel Pagan in Center, we have Collin Cowgill, probably our best outfielder. They have Hunter Pence in Right Field, we have nobody. They have a decent platoon of Torres/Blanco in Left Field, we have Lucas Duda, who can only be average even if he hits because of his atrocious range in left field. The Giants offense is way ahead of the Mets offense, its not even close. The Mets might have had a better rotation with Dickey and Harvey, but without Dickey their rotation is slightly worse even with Wheeler and Marcum. And don’t even get started on the bullpen.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:59:31 +0000

And you have trouble identifying what analogies are and not this thread is not about Jose Reyes..and JDD can bring up David Wright as many times as you bring up Jose Reyes so it’s a wash whoever the hell you are.

Yes Stanton absolutely WOULD spike ticket sales. And you know what kind of analogy would be proper in this case? When the Mets traded for Mike Piazza.

By: van

van — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:58:07 +0000

most likely 5th, with Duda behind him, giving the R/L/R/L middle.

basically the same thing that is likely to happen with whoever the best RH power bat they end up starting (Buck until TDA or Flores arrive?) in the 5 hole.

By: Noah

Noah — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 01:51:46 +0000

If Stanton was to be traded to the Mets (highly unlikely, just a theoretical), where would he bat in the lineup? He is not a high average hitter, so David Wright would likely still have the #3 spot. It would seem that Stanton would bat fourth, but it might make more sense to keep it righty-lefty-righty-lefty by putting Davis fourth, giving him lineup protection to help him avoid a slump like last year, and Stanton would rack up the RBI’s from the 5 spot. What do you guys think?