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2013
Four Prospects Who Give Us Reason To Hope
An article by Craig Lerner
It’s not very often that mainstream media paints the Mets in a positive, or better yet, glowing light. So in those rare instances when they do, I like to point it out here on MMO. I give you Chris Cwik of CBS Sports.
Chris is doing a team by team review of each minor league system and pointing out which prospects are the ones to keep an eye on this season. It’s not a top prospect list, but instead a preview of which prospects are ready to breakthrough, which one is almost ready, and the one sleeper in the group.
Impact Players
In acquiring d’Arnaud, the Mets can fill one of the weakest spots in their lineup almost immediately. He can probably force his way onto the 25-man roster and potentially a starting spot with a good spring, but the team also brought in John Buck in case d’Arnaud needs more time. The 24-year-old d’Arnaud will hit for power. Over the last two seasons, he has 37 home runs over 769 minor-league plate appearances. If there’s a reason for concern, it’s whether d’Arnaud can hold up over a full season. He has missed a lot of time throughout his minor-league career, playing in 100+ games just twice in six seasons. When healthy, he’ll be one of the better hitting catchers in baseball.
RHP Zack Wheeler
In one of the biggest steals in recent memory, the Mets received one of the best pitching prospects in baseball from San Francisco for a half-season of Carlos Beltran. The 22-year-old Wheeler has always been mentioned with Matt Harvey as the future top-of-the-rotation for the team, but Wheeler has typically ranked higher on prospect lists. There’s a good chance that Mets fans will see both players in the big-league rotation before this season ends. While Harvey might begin the year in the team’s rotation, Wheeler is more likely slated for Triple-A. If there’s one flaw in his game thus far, it’s his command. Wheeler walked 11.9 percent of hitters in Triple-A last year. But, given his age, he’s already way ahead of most pitchers his age.
Future Star
RHP Noah Syndergaard
The other big name in the Dickey deal was the fire-balling Syndergaard. He is just 20 years old and hasn’t pitched above Single-A yet. In 103 2/3 innings last year, Syndergaard had a 2.60 ERA and struck out nearly 30 percent of hitters. He’s known for having a nice fastball and a decent change-up but needs to develop a breaking ball if he wants to reach the majors as a starter. Given his age, Syndergaard has plenty of time to work things out. In a perfect world, he’ll team with Harvey and Wheeler to make up one heck of a trio at the top of the Mets’ rotation. It’s still going to take Syndergaard a couple of seasons before he’s ready to pitch in the majors, so fans will need to be patient with him.
Wild Card
It typically takes a number of years before a high school draftee is able to force his way onto a major-league roster. While Cecchini is likely in that boat, the fact that he’s expected to stay at shortstop makes him an intriguing guy to watch this season. The Mets selected the shortstop with the 12th pick in last year’s draft, and he managed to receive 218 plate appearances in the lowest levels of the minors last season. The team is slated to start Ruben Tejada at short this season and has no viable prospects waiting in the wings. It would probably be foolish to expect to see him on the team during the upcoming season, but it’s worth noting that he could be on the fast track if he performs well.
About the Author: Craig Lerner
I'm a data analyst and researcher for a leading news agency who loves life and is hooked on the Mets. I love following the Amateur Draft and have a particular fondness for the Mets Minor Leagues who I follow each day. Give me a cold beer, a summer day, and a Mets game, and I'm good to go.
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I don’t think other than a few sandy lover’s anybody is excited for cecchinni. if anything, most mets fans wanted hawkins, this guy is pegged to be a back up IF at best. He proved many people were rigth about him last year by having an awful season in the minors to say the least. with that being said, i have one question though, where’s sandy’s first #1 pick from 2 years ago in all this? He seems to be the forgotten man (or bust, depends how you see it) in all this wheeler d’arnaud conversation after last year all kinds of article were writen about him and what he does, even what he eats for dinner articles were written… Now you barely hear any noise about him. People want draft picks etc for this franchise, yet they forget who are the guys drafting these kids..
You need to get out more, Alex.
I’ve read about Nimmo and his reported progress on plenty of sites.
Unless you’re commenting that this site hasn’t said much about him in awhile.
Being that virtually every site is doing the prospect rankings and this one I believe had multiple post, I have read a lot about him lately and almost all the reports have been either positive or optimistic.
SRT, Like i said, many post and articles about nimmo were being written, and i am talking at a ridiculous pace, even what he had for dinner articles were written, the he sucked big time in the minors, all of the sudden all that noise died out.. now it’s wheeler, d’arnaud, noah and cecchinni. if the guy who is pegged to be a back up IF at the majors has another bad season, or not up to par, i am sure we’ll turn the page as well to this years #11 pick because cechinni will be an afterthought…
http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/02/mmos-2013-top-25-mets-prospects.html
I believe it was Joe that did the write up on Nimmo and it seemed very promising to me.
Even though I’ve read numerous reports on Nimmo – he’s reported to be years away from making his ML debut so most outlets are probably writing more on those that are closer to that debut.
Wait, what? Aren’t nimmo and cechinni the same age???? Stop looking for excuses… If he sucks he’s years away, if he’s doing i am sure you’d be praising the FO to no end…. and what reports are you reading? Nothing i’ve read here in a while compare to the hoopla about the guy. One bad season makes people come down QUICKLY about a prospect. reason is, many of them turn out to be BUST…
“The one thing we can all agree on regarding Nimmo, and most baseball scouts agree as well, is that he oozes with remarkable potential and if he were to realize that potential we are talking about a five-tool talent and perennial all star caliber talent. There is no denying the fact that Nimmo is a natural athlete and he has already developed two of his many tools to a high level; his defense and his plate discipline – two very important skills that are currently in short supply on the Mets.”
Again, seems Joe is still pretty high on him. I think it was Joe.
Age isn’t the only factor. You have to remember they took a chance on Nimmo from Wyoming who didn’t even have a school team to play on.
And Craig clearly says:
‘It typically takes a number of years before a high school draftee is able to force his way onto a major-league roster. While Cecchini is likely in that boat….’
You’re trying to make an argument where none exists.
Again, that is why STUPID ASS ARTICLES that were written about him being a HOF were just insane at the time, let the kid develop before crowning depodesta (who’s track record with draftees has been short of awful) and/or alderson with the kid. it’s amazing how many people in this site are hell and bent to prove alderson as some sort of stoic genius just because. no matter if in the process they’re wrong as hell, they move on to the next thing he does, from brandon eamus to cowgill, every move he does is somehow praised by the S & S club..
O.K., now you’re just flat out exaggerating.
Really, there was an article about him being a HOF on MMO? Dang I must have missed it. The only HOF written about here is Jeter.
O.K., now you’re just flat out exaggerating. ”
THIS ^^ lol…. Ok maybe a little, but i swear to you, the kid hadn’t grabbed a bat yet, and i swear to you that i saw an article about where he likes to eat … That to me cemented the suspicion i had about people worshipping sandy to no end
Eh, different people like different kinds of articles Alex. That’s what’s great about places like MMO. You get traditional post, sabergooner post, real life experiences, post like
http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/02/sifting-through-some-old-mets-relics-and-memories-makes-me-believe-in-2013.html
And yes some post on who the players actually are. Especially guys who are new to the system. Some even as ridiculous as to interview them and ask personal questions as well. Just part of the gig.
I don’t recall seeing any article tagging him as a future HOF – but I’ll concede there might have been comments in the commenting section alluding to that. Wasn’t me though. That kind of conversation now is a tad ridiculous.
I guess, but i’d love for people who write articles to be more honest and admit they were wrong as well,.. When you get articles about the bullpen being good, they proving you wrong and then you coming back with another articles instead of admitting you were wrong as hell saying no, tthey weren’t that bad proves to me how disloyal a person is… but, anyways… i guess it is what it is….
Sounds like a personal grudge to me but don’t let a kid like Nimmo get in the middle of that. He didn’t do great in his first pro season but he certainly didn’t suck.
No, no personal grudge. just plain old apology would be fine to all the fans of the blog for reading crap like that, being wrong and still be stubborn enough to somehow admit the bullpen wasn’t as bad as we all mets fans saw it was… Pegging some people for dumb and stupid shouldn’t be this site MO, and by allowing a guy to repost an article he wrote to counter attack those who saw the debacle by making them read another garbage about the bullpen and sandy alderson is a crime within itself…
“making them read another garbage about the bullpen ”
I am not sure I get your point. Again, you say it yourself. The good thing about MMO is there are articles for everyone. If you don’t want to read that article written by that author or about Nimmo eating a cheese-steak someone else might.
Fine, but you do understand why i said what i said? Let him develop and comments like mine wouldn’t be thrown out there. because the reason why all those articles were being written were because of the guy who drafted him nothing else…
Kinda hard to say what motive an author has in posting a positive comment about a Mets prospect.
For one you lump me into the I like the move because Sandy made it group. However, I barely even knew who Sandy was when he took the job. I don’t have a fascination with money ball, just patience.
dude, he was drafted out of high school, do you expect him to be in the majors already.before the yankees got pineda all you heard about was those loser catchers they have.its whos ever gonna help the big club first is who youll hear about.
Yeah I would guess 3 more years.
Alex, every time you say that Nimmo “sucked big time”, it puts your extreme lack of knowledge on full display, which you do everyday on a regular basis, but especially when it comes to Nimmo.
That is all.
After reading your string of posts, I would recommend you take a breather. Life is short, enjoy it.
Off topic a bit.
Saw this tidbit from Heyman in a piece he has this morning on Montero:
Then there’s the camp star so far, 22-year-old righthander Rafael Montero, who is described by one Mets person as looking “looking like Pedro, with thicker legs,” and who has been wowing them in Port St. Lucie.
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Anyone down in ST get a glimpse of him pitching this week?
Lets hope so. I wonder if they view him more long-term as a starter or reliever?
I really have no idea.
I’m hoping if he really is wowing everyone down there right now, someone will do a write up on him and what’s meant by ‘wowing’.
Here’s what MMO had to say.
” Montero does not strike me as the type of guy who belongs in the bullpen. He has a diverse arsenal and a bulldog mentality on the mound, so I believe he will be starting, point-blank.”
Works for me.
Lots of good arms coming up the ranks.
I watched Nimmo play in person last year and this kid has talented. To say he he sucked big time in the minors is an overstatement at best. Did Nimmo’s first year raise issues about areas that have to improve? Sure. That’s the norm for most first year major leaguers. Even so, watching him perform live it’s easy to understand why the Mets are very excited about this kid.
I think again the most impressive part was the fact that at that age and inexperience he was able to show poise and discipline.
I think again the most impressive part was the fact that at that age and inexperience he was able to show poise and discipline.”
Wouldn’t that be consider maybe as the inefectiveness of pitchers in the minors as well? where most of them are very erratic and wild at first? Hence wheeler 4.5 BB per 9 IP when in the low A ball. but of course, it wouldn’t fit your agenda
Could be but then again he did lead the Brooklyn Mets team in OBP and was 15th in the league in players with 200 PA or more and 3rd in players with 300 PA or more.
The average in the league itself was .318.
Then again, the average BB per 9 IP in the league was almost 5.something gotta give wouldn’t you say? He didn’t show one area where you can say “Wow, this kid might have power, or speed or defense”. however, like i said, it’s only year one, let him develop, but my point was how quickly one can get turn off by a prospect you overhype.
Unless I am reading it wrong the average BB/9 last year in Brooklyn was 3.3, hardly absurd. I was always under the impression that the Penn League was pitcher friendly. I know that back in 2008 it held Davis homerless in 239 PA.
NYPL is very pitcher friendly, especially MCU Park.
No, i saw the avg per team was like 4.8 BB per 9 ip. i could be wrong though
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/league.cgi?id=6d3b01e3
Unless I am reading it wrong it was a very respectable 3.3 with a team ERA average of 3.53 so I would say that is VERY pitcher friendly.
TRS, you’re right… fair nough on that. Either way, you say he didn’t suck, but who knows if his patient is due to the phylosophy install by the mets FO in all mets league, i mean, you got many of these kids hitting 230 240 and posting above 80 point in OBP from the ba. so…. Time will tell who he’ll become
Agreed, I am trusting the scouts for now that say they believe the power potential is there. Usually it’s the other way around so this year could be interesting.
That being said, I am not expecting a 5 tool player. I would certainly be comfortable with a good CF with a .280′s BA, .360 OBP and 15 HR and 25 SB.
this off season as a FA those #s got you 12-15mill/year.
Yup. That’s what some forget. If a guy like SS Gavin Cecchini can be a league average SS, how much is that worth?
Nimmo did well relative to his league, especially for his age.
A .770 OPS from a 19-year-old in the NYPL is just fine and may be even more impressive than the Nintendo numbers some pitchers in their early 20s have posted in that league.
Heck, David Wright posted sub .800 OPS totals in his first couple of minor league seasons before breaking out in a big way in Double A in 2004.
Which isn´t to say Nimmo will be anywhere nearly as good as Wright. Odds are he won´t be and heck, he may never even reach the majors. He certainly has promising tools across the board – though his foot speed was less than advertised in 2012.
However, just like with pretty much any HS prospect (or IFA teenager), especially a rather young pick without a lot of Baseball experience, patience is needed.
Jon Niese was a HS draftee in 2005 – arguably the best pick of the entire Omar Minaya era for now. He only established himself in the majors in 2010 and really became an impact pitcher in 2012 – almost 7 years after being drafted.
As for Cecchini, if he can stay at SS defensively and emerges as a hitter that can post an annual OPS in the .700 to .750 range at the major league level, that´ll be worth as much or even more than a slugging corner OF with an annual OPS in the .800 to .850 range.
Of course, neither Nimmo nor Cecchini figures to reach the majors until late 2015 anyway. So, just like Syndergaard and a bunch of other promising A-ball arms, their only impact in the next couple of seasons will be as potential trade bait or as a glimmer of hope for the future…
Nimmo & Cecchini are going to take time…LIKE MOST HIGH SCHOOL DRAFTEES!!! Guys like Trout and Harper are exceptions to the rule and you can’t take that out on the Mets picks.
That said, they certainly should’ve taken Hawkings.
Plus, anyone who thinks Nimmo had a bad year in Brooklyn while playing with guys two or three years older, is insane. He had a great season. Showed plenty of pop for that ballpark where Ike couldn’t hit any out. I’d expect big things from Nimmo this season. Big things.
Alex,
The report I read is that scouts believe Cecchini will be a backu IF AT WORST, not at best. As for Hawkins, while he has the tools, some scouts are questioning his ability at the higher levels of the minors. Either way, it is a stupid guess because nobody knows. Hawkins might be a HOF some day and Cecchini never makes it past St Lucie or vice versa. Or they both could bomb. Remember, only 25% of any 1st round has any significant impact at the major league level. The rest either have a cup of coffee or dont even see the show.
Nimmo, his struggles are understandable. Let me ask you this? How many LHP do you think he really saw in American Legion in Wyoming? There is a chance he never even saw a breaking ball. Sure there is great risk with him but that is the conscious change the organization made when drafting. Instead of the older, safer pics out of college, they decided to hit up the high school kids. Will it work? I am sure in some instances we will see success while others, total failure.
The draft is nothing more than a numbers game anyway. Get talent in, develop it, and see what comes out.
Taks, fair enough… Like i said, i am rooting for the kid because he’s a met, but again, with all these prospects we should be careful how we hype them, because we go so high that if they struggle a bit then we get turn off and move on to the next one. only time will tell if this kid gonna be a stud or not, but let’s do that, let’s give him time!
I agree with you 100%. The problem with “cant miss kids” is they do miss…all the time.
We see this in basketball with the comparisons to Jordan. Does anyone remember Harold Minor? He was the next Jordan and his career flopped. Vince Carter? Solid career but no Jordan. Lebron? The next Jordan at 16 although he actually might get there. The point is to tout any of these guys highly outside the few phenoms we see is ridiculous. Nimmo, Hawkins, Cecchini, and everyone else drafted those years were nothing more than a big crapshoot. See who comes out the other end.
Exactly my point as to why we shouldn’t bank all our eggs in one basket, out the group of wheeler and co maybe one or 2 can be great and that’s good, but the likelyhood of them becoming bust is higher as we’ve seen with all prosects. let’s cross our fingers and hope for the best, but i am not as optimistic as some guys are about all this prospects because i’ve seen this in the late 70′s, late 80′s, mid 90′s and late 2000′s as well…
When you look at what is going on at the moment, the Mets are sitting in decent shape as an organization, at least pitching wise. Wheeler and Harvey have advanced to the point where they will succeed at the major league level unless injury derails them. Historically, few top pitching prospects who make to the show fail based upon their stuff. Most often it is an injury.
As for great, I agree maybe there is maybe one or two in the entire bunch who will ascend to that level. So what? Sure it would be nice to put out 3 Doc Goodens but it is highly unlikely. But what do you think the chances are that out of Wheeler, Harvey, Fulmer, Syndergaard, and some of the other arms there are at least a few Ron Darlings in the bunch? I would say when you have 6 or 8 quality pitching prospects like that, your chances are pretty good of finding a few who fit that mold. Some will find the BP, a few the starting rotation, and others fail miserably.
To me, having the numbers isnt putting all the eggs in one basket. What is putting all the eggs in one basket is the fact that Flores is the only everyday player above A ball that anyone really believes has a high upside. If he pulls an FMart, which is very possible with everyday players, the organizational weakness is further exposed. Perhaps that is why 10 OFs were drafted in 2011. Perhaps, down the road, we will see one or two of them in Queens.
The fact that there are more promising young arms up & down all levels of the system than at any time before that I can remember since following this system is the main reason for my longterm optimism.
The Mets have a really good chance to have a pretty strong pitching staff going forward. And that extends all the way to finally having a strong power bullpen instead of having to recycle veteran retreads year-in, year-out like for most of the past 20+ years..
I wouldn´t bet on any individual prospect – but the sheer number makes me feel quite giddy about a potential team strength.
“I wouldn´t bet on any individual prospect – but the sheer number makes me feel quite giddy about a potential team strength.”
Agreed.
The big advantage to all those arms is that they are wonderful trade pieces down the road. While some were advocating unloading them this off season, push some of them through AA and see how their value skyrockets. Flores is the prime example of that. He has some value now that he showed success at AA but a good season in Vegas will really enhance what he can bring back.
True. And while the overall depth of the system´s lower levels is much improved, pretty much every A-ball prospect remains more or less a lottery ticket – and that even includes higher profile prospects such as Syndergaard – Fulmer – Cecchini – Nimmo or Tapia.
Once a prospect shows that he can handle Double A, he´s really on the prospect scene and becomes a realistic option for the major league team. Until then – and each of the players I mentioned will stay in A-ball to open 2013 – it´s more a fantasy about future success and nothing else.
The Mets currently have two frontline upper level prospects in Wheeler & d´Arnaud.
Two real “2nd tier” upper level prospects in Flores & Familia who realistically could be impact major leaguers but are probably more likely to become solid role players.
Four fringe 2nd tier upper level prospects such as Den Dekker, Tovar, Mazzoni and Lagares who in a “best case scenario” could become solid major leaguer regulars but are highly likely to end up as role players. Plus another handful or so of upper level prospects (McHugh, Gorski, Carson, Lutz, Germen and Centeno) who project as role players as it is. Basically, that´s the “cavalary” for the next couple of seasons – with advanced A-ball arms like Montero, DeGrom or Leathersich having an outside shot to join them within the next 12 to 18 months…
I agree with you and that is why I feel, from an organizational standpoint, this is an important year. To start, I feel Flores has the ability to really up his value playing in Vegas this year. If he can put up some sick numbers, he will garner big time attention next off season (if the Mets are interested in moving him). Also, as a system, the Mets can move forward if the guys who played in A ball last year or start the season there this year end up in AA while having success. Their value is much greater when producing at the AA level although still far from a sure thing. While I would believe that it still will be pitchers making the impact, perhaps a guy like Vaughn suddenly breaks out and kills it in AA just like Flores did last season.
For my buddy SRT:
Mets Hot Stove 10pm Wednesday hosted by @KBurkhardtSNY with special guests Johan Santana, Travis d’Arnaud and Bobby Parnell
Off Topic: Alex I been following these 2 Youtube channels of late. One called “ThatsDominican.Com” that is just flat out funny and the other “La Chica Deportes” A Sports show where the host Jennifer Mercedes does some really good interviews with many Met players. You should check them out they are both really good.
http://www.youtube.com/chicadeportes
http://www.youtube.com/user/ThatsDominicanDotCom
Check out the one called ” Explicando los NOMBRES Dominicanos” on the “ThatsDominican.Com” channel.
Gracias MNj, I will look into this….
I saw some pics of D’Arneud taking BP and standing around the batting cage. Am I the only one who is reminded of IRod when looking at him?
BINGO…….Watching him the past week at ST I thought the same thing. He has a shorter stature than I expected and is extremely compact. Hopefully we have a Pudge II
We shouldn’t put nimmo and cechinni in the ready to help soon catagory at all. They are very talented teenagers and I’m excited to follow their careers but they have a few years. Flores could break out and help us soon. He is only 21 and doesn’t get anywhere near the credit he should be getting for the strides he made last year. He is gonna make scouts look silly for not putting him in the top 100! Can’t wait to watch this kid crush it in las Vegas this year!
I would agree. The focus needs to be on Wheeler, TDA, Den Dekker, Famila, Mejia, and Flores. These are the players most likely to make an impact on the major league level this year and next. Guys like Fulmer, Nimmo, Syndergaard, Montero, etc… are still in the coin toss category. Their impact, if ever, will not come any time soon.
Here is a question off topic that might be placed in a larger discussion:
Who here thinks the Mets will end up with a better record than the Yankees?
Probably the same amount of people who think david wright is better than jeter
I don’t think it’s completely out of the question as it has been in years prior. The Yankees are a C.C./Cano/Grandy injury away from not being all that good. I think C.C. is the most likely, and the loss of him would probably sting the most out of the those guys. He started to show some signs of something brewing towards the end of last year and they have already said that his workload will be carefully monitored this year.
Here’s another one for you that I found interesting, and it was mentioned on loud mouths. More wins, Harvey or C.C.?
CC really seemed to be falling apart. Not a good sign (the piling up injuries) for a 30-something SP with a ton of miles on the arm. And a fat carcass.
also add in there, a 37(38?) YO SS trying to come back to play with a plate screwed in his ankle. I know his range was miniscule already, but at some point, he just is not going to be able to move enough to play the position.
I think over he next 5 years we will be the better team in new York and possibly longer. This year I think it will be tight. I our younger players come up and progress fast then we could have a better record this year. If they come up and struggle or our outfield project doesn’t work, we could have a top 5 pick. It’s a tough call even though I think the Yankees are old and suck!
the extra 80mill/year for payroll will always come in handy for retooling on the fly.
that would be awesome if the 4 other teams in our division were just like the Yankees…
so best case scenario are 2 NY teams not making the playoffs for the next 8 years ?
wins harvey 16
cc 14
how nice will this rotation look
Harvey
Wheeler
Niese
Montero
Syndergaard
Off Topic: BaseballAmerica came out with their Top 100 Prospects today.
Mets prospects ranked:
11. Zack Wheeler
23. Travis d’Arnaud
54. Noah Syndergaard
In particular Syndergaard was ranked higher than any of the prospects in the Blue Jays, Marlins trade.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/top-100-prospects/2013/2614739.html
From many reports I have seen Gavin Cecchini was a huge reach when he was drafted. Many scouts have him projected to be a low average major league hitter with a solid glove, a weak arm and limited range at short..How he made this list over Nimmo, or others is beyond me. No Offense..
I guess that depends on who is doing the analysis. Jonathan Mayo over at MLB had this to say about him:
‘Gavin is a scrappy middle infielder who should be able to play shortstop long-term thanks to good range, a solid arm and plus instincts. Those instincts also helps his solid average speed play up on the basepaths. He projects to be a good all-around hitter with the ability to make consistent contact, even if it’s not with that much power. He plays the game the right way and that plus makeup should help him move up the organizational ladder.’
He’s got Gavin as the #6 prospect for the Mets, with Nimmo #4.
Baseball America had him at 16, baseball prospect nation at 14, minor league ball had him at 16 and mmo had him top 20. So consensus had him near the middle of the draft and he went 12th. There were huge reaches in the first round, Cecchini wasn’t one.
Jonathan Mayo is arguably one of the worst guy at doing scouting reports on minor league players, how he has a job still beyond me. alongside BA, he should issue an all out apology to all teams who’ve drafted guys based on their projection…. Again, CEchinni is consider a backu IF at best, somehow i believe that more due to depodesta’s track record of PO’s drafted while he directs the draft… You’re welcome
So you don’t like Mayo’s analysis, you don’t like BA’s analysis….just whose analysis did you go by to determine he’s only going to be a MI backup?
Interesting four guys you got there Lerner. Three of them resulting from trading two of the best players in the game; reigning Cy Young R.A. Dickey (replaced by Shaun Marcum) and perennial All Star and Gold Glover Carlos Beltran (replaced by Lucas Duda), and another one who batted .239, was pre-signed, and taken over 2012 Minor League Player of the Year, Courtney Hawkins.
I hope the four of them can some day be just like… ummm…. hmmmm… Carlos Beltran and R.A. Dickey?
Lets Go Mets!
Impending free agent and seriously injured Carlos Beltran. And amazing story 38 year old knuckler RA Dickey.
You make it sound like we dumped two cost controlled in their prime superstars who are locks to perform for us for years to come.
You need to compare beltran leaving and 40 year old Dickey versus what we got.
surprise no mention of Danny Muno…