I would just rather have new trades evaluated in potential no matter how enthusiastic or sour one might feel about rather than already being crowned a success. That was not what Fangraphs was guilty of, however, the way the banner was worded – with the trade being ranked as the fifth best deal made this year – implied fangraphs was already making a conclusion which wasn’t the case.

Same with the Wheeler-Beltran trade. He hasn’t thrown a pitch yet in the majors while the front office threw the team under the bus but Sandy has is being lauded because we were going nowhere in 2011. I was against it not because of the players involved but because of what I felt was a principle of competitive integrity. If anyone caught last night’s replay of the Pagan game one would have been reminded of how great the team was playing – not based on the fact that the Mets had won that ballgame – but how the Mets had fought back twice that evening with Gary, Keith and Ron reminding us how typical that had been with the team playing great ball since that awful start and without their two top hitters.

The replay showed how much the fan base was pumped up about the team. It would also be interesting to go back to posts to actually see how many here at MMO weren’t feeling the same way at that time.

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I still remember the praises we first got for Joey Foy followed by Jim Fregosi.

I agree that trades can’t be measured for a few years. What do you suggest the rationale be? I’m not being snarky it just sounds like you’re saying on one hand that it takes time for these players to develop but then saying that if they falter a bit now, Sandy failed.

That ls why it’s absurd to bank all your eggs on prospects. that’s suicide to do that, ask the pirates and the royals how they’ve been doing the past 20 years…

and man, that is all that Span went for? I thought it was a pretty hefty return for him? maybe he isn’t as good as I thought. Will have to go look back at that one.