Ike Davis Confesses He Was Very Fatigued Last Season

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• Tommy2cat February 6, 2013 at 7:46 am

  Good job, Joe!

  One thing I noticed last year was Ike’s limited mobility around the first base bag. We had been accustomed to his broad range, soft hands and ability to track foul pop-ups. Saw less of that last year, which I attributed to his having Valley Fever. Yesterday’s interview confirmed the obvious.

  His reasoning for the acquisition of Michael Bourn is very sound. Yeah, we’d love to have a bona fide lead-off hitter that doesn’t command attention to himself, patrols centerfield and covers the gaps with gold-glove caliber. In fact, we need someone like Bourn, if someone like Duda (who defense is under-rated, IMHO) is patrolling leftfield.

  I like to alternate L/R hitters (as does Davey Johnson), so here’s my line-up with Bourn in it, apart from who’s on the mound:

  Bourn, d’Arnaud, Murphy, Wright, Davis, Brown, Duda, Tejada… Pitcher

  My logic is that batters 1 thru 4 will have a high OBP, which will afford the power combo of Ike, Brown & Duda more opportunities to drive in runs. A healthy Ike and rejuvenated Duda will drive in a lot of runs. Andrew Brown hit @ 50 home runs in the past 2 seasons – he’s no slouch and is an opportunity away from making a significant impact at the MLB level.

  Have a good one!
  • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 8:30 am

    I don’t worry too much about leadoff and the next guy being back to back same handedness. I am fine if they go down the road of Bourn to go with Bourn then Murphy.
• Just-Da-Damaja February 6, 2013 at 7:54 am

  Hey guess who else wants Michael Bourn on the team…

  Ike Davis !!!

  Now watch the Firm go in on this one…
  • Hitman February 6, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    Difference is, nobody is gonna rip on Ike for practically saying the same thing Murph & Wright did.
    • Bayonne Mets Fan February 6, 2013 at 5:27 pm

      Well there’s a difference,

      Ike is cool, Wright is the owner’s pet who knows the plan but won’t tell, and who cares what Daniel Murphy says?
      • Hitman February 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm

        So we’re gonna be biased? Gotcha.
        • Bayonne Mets Fan February 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm

          we all have favorite players and if you can’t take a joke than what can i say
          • Hitman February 6, 2013 at 5:56 pm

            Right….a joke.

            Moving on….
            • Bayonne Mets Fan February 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm

              you DAMNED right i’m bias towards Davis, he’s one of my 2 favorite players on the team who I predicted 3 YEARS AGO. Now go back and predict Josh Thole to be the next Joe Mauer and Nick Evans to be a 20-25 a year HR guy like you did before.
• Tommy2cat February 6, 2013 at 8:00 am

  One more thing… Don’t underestimate the value of subtracting Bay & Torres from the outfield equation. I think Torres had a stretch where he was 4-for-51 and it seemed like Bay went 4-for-251… Both players are nice guys and good defensively – they never quit – but they also rarely hit.

  An outfield rotation that will include Duda, Bourn, Brown and supported by some combination of Kirk, Cowgill, Baxter, Turner & Valdespin should provide much more offensive support over the course of the season. Kirk, Cowgill & Baxter are all above-average defenders and Turner & Valdespin likely will improve with training and experience.

  The Met outfield, reputed to be the team’s weakest link, won’t be half as bad as last year’s crew, and may provide some surprises along the way.
• Alex68 February 6, 2013 at 8:16 am

  Regardless of the PO’Ss alderson has surrounded this guy, i think he’ll have a really good season.. one of the few bright spots for the season…
  • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 8:28 am

    Do you consider Murphy, Tejada and Duda POS’s? or are you complaining about Kirk? I will give you Buck and the other OF for sure. Hopefully Buck is only temporary.
  • Alex68 February 6, 2013 at 8:37 am

    TRS, murphy is a guy who will hit singles and has a good avg nothing more. same with tejada. duda needs to prove he is better than what he was last year. also, the mets phylosophy of “waiting for your pitch” was figure out by the league and i think many of this agresive hitters suffered from it.
    • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 8:41 am

      I don’t disagree Alex. I am just saying that we can’t have it both ways. To say Sandy surrounded Ike with crap but then to think highly of what is surrounding them individually. They all have something to prove, from Wright, to Davis to Duda but I don’t think it’s fair to say that Davis is surrounded by crap. That being said, they need a legitimate OF in order to have any chance at competing.
      • Alex68 February 6, 2013 at 8:47 am

        You don’t think he did??? when the best player behind ike is a guy who has been on decline in the second half for 4 consecutive years and has warning track power at best then what are you chances to be good offensively? I am tellin you, despite ike’s good season imho, if the mets pitching don’t hold up, unlike last season, we may be done by june instead of july…
        • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 8:53 am

          What I am saying is Alex we have to be careful assessing what we have. I think you and I both want to see what Tejada, Murphy and Duda (even Kirk) have before replacing them. So if that is true the only spots open were catcher and RF. RF is still a disaster and Catcher I hope is solved long-term, at least enough to say that it shouldn’t be replaced at this point.
        • Alex68 February 6, 2013 at 8:59 am

          Quite frankly TRS? Kirk and duda will have a short life with sandy as the GM. he wants to prove everyone wrong and put his kids to play. so kirk and duda have a short leash imho.. if they struggle out the gate look the mets OF to be fill with alderson’s garbage from this offseason…
          • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 9:02 am

            OK Alex, lets play this game. Are you saying that they aren’t crap and should be given a chance? If so then how did Sandy surround Ike with crap? You see what I am saying? It’s a very fine line. We BOTH know this team is not good enough, but other than RF and Catcher who do you want replaced?

            As for Kirk and Duda? If they don’t do better than last year I am sure any manager would take care of them playing or not playing.
          • Alex68 February 6, 2013 at 9:09 am

            again, i don’t think they are crap, but on a team that’s offensively challenge they need to step it up, and even if a guy like brown or cowgill hits 240 and duda hits 260, somehow IN MY OPINION alderson will fight to put cowgill on the field because his value is better than duda. i can be wrong, but to me, all those PO’s sandy brought in have a purpose, and the purpose is one of them pans out to make us forget about the others. nothing more nothing less. imo this man is tanking this offseason to get a better draft pick and roll the dice next year
            • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 9:13 am

              Alex if tanking the off-season then why bring in Marcum and the host of bullpen pieces. Different discussion though.

              Do you get where I am coming from? You can’t say he surrounded Ike with crap if we actually think Tejada, Murphy, Duda and Kirk have value and of course I have to throw Wright in there as well.
              • Just-Da-Damaja February 8, 2013 at 7:12 pm

                what good is marcum when u have 0 depth at SS, no defense at 2B, RF, CF.

                this team can not sustain any injuries or its looking like a sub-70 win season.
            • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 9:14 am

              As for your comment on Duda, if that .260 isn’t followed by power and production numbers then yeah he most likely isn’t going to be worth as much as a light hitting defensive replacement. He has to hit to make up for his defense.
            • ifthevansrockin February 6, 2013 at 9:20 am

              I’m still trying to figure out why he keeps talking about all the purchase orders Sandy must sign as GM. What the heck does copy paper requisitions have to do with play on the field?
            • Alex68 February 6, 2013 at 9:25 am

              Look, been a mets fan for the longest time. i’ve seen this many times. we get our hopes up about certain players, then of course the players flop big time and we’re left wondering, maybe if we think these players suck they’ll have a reverse role for once. we need duda to step up, it’d be a nice lineup if we have Ike, wright and duda follow by a right handed bat. ohhh, but that’s right, we don’t have one. ..
              • ifthevansrockin February 6, 2013 at 9:27 am

                don’t tell andrew brown that if you see him. He’s a big guy.
    • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 8:45 am

      I will say this about the pitch selection, remember that Ike Davis’ great P/PA (I know you love that term ) dramatically increased in the 2nd half.
      • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 9:03 am

        http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/position/1b/split/182/league/nl/sort/pitchesPerPlateAppearance/type/expanded/minpa/275
      • Just-Da-Damaja February 6, 2013 at 6:17 pm

        so if ike fouls off 10 pitches out of the strike zone…is that a sign of Ike being patient?

        you do know P/PA rises up with foul balls ….

        which are not an indicator of “patience”…
        • vigouge February 8, 2013 at 7:16 pm

          No TRS is right. Davis took more balls and had less strikes in the second half as opposed to the first, almost a 50 pitch swing in the positive direction and right in line with his career to date.
        • TRS86 February 12, 2013 at 11:50 am

          Patient isn’t really what they are looking for anyway. They want to do two things. Make the pitcher throw more pitches and make the pitcher throw pitches they can handle. One of the big things Hudggens talks about is being able to defend and keep the AB going with 2 strikes which is most likely why they do care about P/PA so much.
• srt February 6, 2013 at 8:44 am

  Here’s a tweet the coeur can identify with:

  Ed Ryan ‏@Mets_Fever

  Last time mets beg for players (relievers) and didn’t get season tanked sandy said he learn psych impact of doing nothing
  • ifthevansrockin February 6, 2013 at 9:18 am

    also a totaly crock of nonsense that they collapsed because the FO did “nothing” for them, so they all effectively stopped trying and just went into the corner to pout of some such.

    more like 1 guy that was carrying the load cooled off, and 2 SPs went down around the same time.

    Of course, Sandy did get them a high-end SP replacement for one of those spots but that seems to be overlooked. And if that could not get the teamed revved up to try even a little then they are really a bunch of mental midgets that need to be replaced!
    • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 9:20 am

      If they did indeed stop trying because no one was added then they should have fired the manager and traded the entire team.
      • ifthevansrockin February 6, 2013 at 9:26 am

        exactly.
      • srt February 6, 2013 at 8:21 pm

        Agree with both of you.
  • Mary February 6, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Can someone please translate that to English?
    • TRS86 February 6, 2013 at 10:43 am

      Not sure, ask Cerrone
• Hank February 6, 2013 at 10:31 am

  The Mets will not sign Michael Bourn, Ike. Good luck and carry on.
  • Seligman February 6, 2013 at 10:43 am

    Agreed, this is one of the longest enduring cases of much ado about nothing since the Walter Reed incident.
• Mr North Jersey February 6, 2013 at 10:54 am

  It was a nice interview Ike did with Francesa. I found it funny where Ike told him he said the Mets would be better than many expected and Francesa was like well technically your right. You was better than I expected by maybe 1 game. Though I found it funny when at the end Francesa asked Ike to pick 1 goal for the season and Ike said to have 100 walks.
• Met Maniac February 6, 2013 at 12:02 pm

  David Wright ruined his MVP season when he crushed his ankle. And Pelfrey was right there and saw the whole thing, he’s a material witness. You should have sued his ass, Ike!
  • ifthevansrockin February 6, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    either the pitcher or catcher was supposed to be directing traffic there. He should sue whichever one it was. Ike and David were doing exactly what they were supposed to do, look up at the ball!
    • taskmaster4450 February 8, 2013 at 5:52 pm

      Falls to the catchers. It was him who blew it. He should have called either Wright or Ike.
  • Infield Confusion February 8, 2013 at 8:17 pm

    Maniac, Ike had an MVP season? He only had 129 plate appearances in 36 games. His season was only 22% done. I think you’re jumping to conclusions that are likely unwarranted.

    Also, the batted ball was popped up into a swirling wind high above the left side of the infield. It was Wright’s ball — no one else’s. As he was tracking the ball, the winds carried it over above the mound. Again it was Wright’s ball to catch since no automatic switches are done in such cases. Ike didn’t get out of the way. He should have moved and his good start for the season might have extended into the rest of the season. We’ll never know.
• Matt Mosher February 8, 2013 at 4:40 pm

  I have Ike for $9 in my auction keeper league. Got a feeling he’s going to be worth three times that amount.

  I’m thinking 36 bombs with a .355 on base
• srt February 8, 2013 at 4:41 pm

  Huh…I didn’t think this was any big secret last year. I remember TC telling us that they needed to monitor Ike very closely and make sure he didn’t become fatigued. He expected to give him more days off in the first couple of months than an otherwise ‘healthy’ player would need.

  If the effects of that Valley Fever is truly behind him now, I’m really looking forward to what kind of year – and what kind of numbers – he’ll have this season.
  • van February 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    that was the official party line. But it was definitley presented as precautionary, in case they saw something, but with the tone that there was not any issue at the time.

    one thing I find surprising is that the workouts are normally so short and easy that you could have 6 hours afterwards to fish!
• Matt February 8, 2013 at 4:59 pm

  Fatigue, eh? So, why did he do better as the season went on?
  • van February 8, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    either the symptoms subsided, he learned to deal with them, or it did not really impact him during the games.
  • Connor O'Brien February 8, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    because he had valley fever, which makes you feel fatigue. once you don’t have it anymore, the fatigue goes away
    • Matt February 8, 2013 at 7:19 pm

      Just man up and say you had a bad start to the season…don’t give excuses. Let’s say he has a terrible April this year…going back to the fever excuse? C’mon man.
      • Cackletta February 8, 2013 at 7:44 pm

        This isn’t a small cold man, this is valley fever. Prolonged fatigue can be a big problem with these types of illnesses.
        • srt February 8, 2013 at 8:02 pm

          This.
          It’s ended at least one ball player’s career and cost others a couple of years to recoup.
  • DrDooby February 9, 2013 at 2:29 am

    Pretty easy explanation.
    Normally, you build up physical stamina for the upcoming season during the winter and spring training. In Ike´s case, Valley Fever didn´t allow him to in early 2012. So, combined with the rust of missing most of 2011, it took him the first couple of months of the 2012 season to gain stamina.
• Mr North Jersey February 8, 2013 at 5:33 pm

  I believe Ike also mentioned during the Francesa interview the fatigue definitely was a factor during last Spring Training. Just keeping the fingers crossed that he can put together overall a good season.
• Sloatsburg Mets Fan February 8, 2013 at 5:49 pm

  Alex

  How is it fair for you to say we need to stop making excuses for Wright when we say he’s got no protection then you use the exact same argument for Ike?

  How is it you complain when we defend Wright when he played with a broken back but the Wright haters all said if he’s on the field then he must be held accountable for his performance (a sentiment I somewhat agree with) but then say its ok to accept Ike’s excuse (as justifiable as it may be, I’m not questioning his toughness) as fatigue from the valley fever?

  Also, how is Wright batting .306 with 90+ RBIs and 21 hrs with “bad second half fade” as you said worse than .240ish 80+ RBIs and 32 hrs after a “very hot second half”. I don’t see it. I

  I actually like Ike and am expecting big things from him but some objectivity, PLEASE!
  • van February 8, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    sloats, he was right around career norms last year, and if he puts up another GG level defense, 20/100/20 SB/.900 OPS line, then that is an elite player at 3B.
  • Just-Da-Damaja February 8, 2013 at 7:07 pm

    Because no one is making out to be the best thing since sliced bread….

    hell on MB, Matt was talking about Ike being “aloof” and a bench player…

    u have to realize 90% of the vitorol directed at DW is because of the pedestal the organization, the media have put him on. This pedestal has created a legion full of STANS

    David is really just an above-avg player at age 30. That’s it…

    BJ + Justin are also above-avg players. Neither one of those 3 are looking like HOF candidates.

    Put them in the SAME lineup and u can do some damage !

    But the reality is….

    DW Stans dont see that simply standing pat and not going after 2 out of 3 ( between Upton/Bourn/Upton ) really DEVALUES their prized possession…

    not only does our MLB lineup lack a leadoff hitter…but we have NO LEADOFF hitters coming up in the minors either…

    and the next few leadoff hitters to hit the free-agent market will be…30 and older…

    so we can recycle the “his game is based on his legs” theory for EVERY leadoff hitter that is a free-agent and demands more than a 4 year contract.

    O yeah…and Reyes’s monstrous contract expires when he turns 34…

    Jimmy Rollins is 35
    Derek Jeter is 38

    so if we constantly compare DW to Chipper and Mike Schmidt ( insert laughter here )

    Why is it that we cant compare Reyes to Rollins and Jeter ?

    What irony is it that Reyes has a completely healthy season and we lose our 21 year old SS to more time on the DL due to a hamstring issue …
    • TP February 8, 2013 at 7:28 pm

      JDD,
      I was all for the pursuit of BJ, but not at the cost of Harvey or Wheeler plus. I am with you 100% on Bourn, so long as it isn’t on Boras’s terms. He fills multiple needs – leadoff, CF, speed, OF defense (does anybody remember defense). I am not as impressed as most with Atlanta’s getting both Uptons. They do have a lot of potential but both can be pitched to. I think BJ was verpaid and I’d rather have Bourn.
      • Jeff Wilpon February 8, 2013 at 9:52 pm

        BJ – Free Agent

        Justin – via trade

        If you signed BJ + Bourn, you have 2 guys that can play CF, u slide BJ over to RF….

        here is ur lineup…

        1 – Bourn

        2 – Tejada

        3 – Murph

        4 – Wright

        5 – Ike

        6 – Upton

        7 – Duda

        8 – Buck/Travis

        9 – Pitcher

        And you keep Harvey + Wheeler…

        You lose the 11th pick…
        but you have a SOLID lineup for the next few year…
        A solid Rotation for the next few years…
        A good outfield for the next few years…

        the only positions that are kinda weak defensively are LF + 2B…

        how much is payroll adding BJ + Bourn ?

        Say between BJ/Bourn/Wright – u got 50 mil between those 3…

        after that…who else u got ?

        http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/02/newsday-2014-payroll-commitments.html

        Niese?

        LOL

        the mets could have a very good lineup and still be well under 80 mil…

        but Sandy apologists will tell you that doing nothing and “letting the market aka Marlon Byrd come to them is a smart move”

        you guys are either stubborn, willfully dumb or both
        • van February 8, 2013 at 10:25 pm

          Jeff, you are the GM again soon, so pay attention.

          You would have lost your 1st and 2nd round picks for BJ and Bourn.
          • Jeff Wilpon February 9, 2013 at 12:26 am

            van,

            if we dont win games and increase attendance, we wont be able to afford the top talent in those 1st 2 rounds.

            lets win games first, increase attendance, make more money…than we can worry about those lottery tickets.

            Plus, with our 3-headed monster at GM, they can high-ceiling guys in the later rounds
      • Just-Da-Damaja February 8, 2013 at 9:54 pm

        you are not impressed with ATL’s lineup?

        do u think anyone is impressed with our prospects ?
        • TJ February 8, 2013 at 10:56 pm

          Atlanta’s lineup – not impressed, it’s ok but Washington’s worries me more
          our prospects – others are impressed withg the guys we won’t part with
• taskmaster4450 February 8, 2013 at 5:58 pm

  I, for one, am expecting good things out of both Ike and Duda. Each had a subpar last year for different reasons. Those two lefty bats in the middle of the lineup need to provide the teams power. Fortunately, they have the tools to do it.

  As for the Wright bashing, it is bogus. The guy is a legit .300/20/90 guy. He is not a superstar; not an elite player anymore but he is more than solid. For all the whining about wanting the Uptons, the fact is Wright produces far more than either of them. Neither Upton can be counted on to produce what Wright does.
  • srt February 8, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    I’m keeping my fingers crossed on both. But I’m far more confident Ike will have a very good year than Duda. I won’t be surprised if Duda’s bat doesn’t translate enough in the first half to keep him in LF. Hope I’m wrong on that. The kid’s got some serious power.
    • taskmaster4450 February 8, 2013 at 6:27 pm

      You might be right. There is no doubt Duda has to be a 25 HR guy at a minimum. If not, his defense simply is so poor the Mets would have to make another move. I agree that Duda is on a short leash this year, maybe 2 months. If he is not showing something by the end of May, I figure a trip to Vegas will be in the cards.
      • RandomGuy February 8, 2013 at 10:28 pm

        David Wright played like an absolute superstar for almost the entire season last year, tailing off towards the end when no one was on base in front of him, the only person hitting by this time was Ike, and the wear and tear of carrying a team for half a season. People are forgetting he hit 29/103 in 2010, injury shortened 2011 where he on pace for 20+ and 90+ and finishes a season .306 21/93 and now he has simply ‘settled’ in as 20 homer 90 rbi guy.

        David Wright is going to shock a lot of people this year if this is all you expect from him.
        • Just-Da-Damaja February 9, 2013 at 12:23 am

          This is the blind allegiance that causes so many people to bash David Wright…

          David Wright started his nose dive in THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON

          David has had subpar 2nd halves for FOUR STRAIGHT SEASONS !!!!

          In June David hit .340
          In July David hit .252
          In August David hit .272
          In September David hit .262

          In the 1st half David hit .351
          In the 2nd half a HEALTHY DAVID hit .258
          thats almost 100 points
          • XtreemIcon February 9, 2013 at 12:34 am

            You and your ilk seem to misunderstand the term “self-correction” and mistake it with “slump.” Let me ask you a simple math question. When a player with a career average of around .300 hits around .350 in the first half, what’s the logical expectation for his average in the second half?
            • Just-Da-Damaja February 9, 2013 at 1:07 am

              “tailing off towards the end”

              Ok, first correction…

              he tailed off after the 90 game mark…that is NOT towards the end…thats damn near smack dab in the middle of the season…

              “when no one was on base in front of him”

              and this has what to do with the abysmal strike out rate, the drop-off in BABIP, and just total overall mediocre batting performance from July – September?

              “the only person hitting by this time was Ike,”

              Nope, Scott Hairston also was hitting well…behind Wright…giving him “PROTECTION”

              Daniel Murphy hit .376 IN FRONT OF WRIGHT in the month of July..

              http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=murphda08&t=b&year=2012&share=2.65#391-413-sum:batting_gamelogs

              Ruben Tejada hit .315 IN FRONT OF WRIGHT in the month of July
              http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=murphda08&t=b&year=2012&share=2.65#391-413-sum:batting_gamelogs

              “and the wear and tear of carrying a team for half a season. ”

              LMAOOO

              Wright has had 4 straight mediocre 2nd halves…from age 26-29

              i guess u can cut and paste your excuses for the next 8 years
              • XtreemIcon February 9, 2013 at 1:18 am

                Did you type all that explicitly to avoid the question? I don’t recall saying anything about player hitting in from of him or behind in or in specific months. Answer the question.
                • Just-Da-Damaja February 9, 2013 at 1:43 am

                  I was answering “Random”

                  and Wright was actually pretty consistent his first 5 seasons…2004-2008
                  • XtreemIcon February 9, 2013 at 2:15 am

                    Your reply was to me. Sorry then. But you’re still not telling the truth. He wasn’t “pretty consistent” from 2004-2008. Obviously 2004 is a mistruth because there was no first half stats for him. In 2005, he hit .281 in the first half and .333 in the second. In 2007, he hit .291 in the first half and .364 in the second half. In 2008, he hit .282 in the first half and .330 in the second half. In 2006 he was pretty consistent, but it was also the only season you mentioned where there wasn’t at least a 48-point difference between halves. That’s not consistent.

                    You still never answered my question, but I’ll let that go because every smart baseball fan understands the ebb and flow of a baseball season and ultimately a career, and I suspect you do too, which is why you’re avoiding it. So I’ll pose another one for you, another simple one. Based on the law of averages, over an 8-year stretch, if the player has better second halves for the first four years, what would you expect to be his better half of the season over his next four?

                    You said earlier “This is the blind allegiance that causes so many people to bash David Wright…”

                    You have it backwards. It’s your blind hatred of him that has everyone else defending him.
                  • Just-Da-Damaja February 9, 2013 at 2:21 am

                    wait…so 50 point swings in which he performed better as the season went on are the same thing as 100 point swing in which he performs worse as the season goes on..

                    in your eyes they are both inconsistent season and both are the same thing…

                    am i correct in saying that?
                  • Just-Da-Damaja February 9, 2013 at 2:22 am

                    and i do not hate Wright, i just dont have him on the pedestal u folks do….and that pedestal does make him a larger target for criticism, not immune from it
                  • XtreemIcon February 9, 2013 at 2:30 am

                    That is exactly right. Wright’s a streaky hitter. Everyone knows that. Whether he hits better in the first half or the second half, he’s always been streaky. Yet he always has the same production when it’s all said and done. In six of his 8 full years he finished above .300 and in one of the two he didn’t he still hit a nice .283 with very good power numbers.

                    And Wright is not and should not be immune from criticism, but it should be deserved criticism. You and your friends heap so much unnecessary and illogical crap on the guy, it’s so far past criticism at this point.
                  • RandomGuy February 9, 2013 at 3:12 am

                    Oh, and I would just like to point out, as I already said below.. David Wright July: 5 doubles 7 home runs 21 rbi.

                    21 rbi a month for a whole season is 126 rbi. Pretty good production.

                    Now, just to use your stats against you.

                    Daniel Murphy hit .225 in August, and .337 in september (respectively, of course)
                    Ruben Tejada hit .261 in August, and .277 in september.

                    Now, how do those numbers stack up, which you see the decline, and um, scott hairston…
                    had 60 at bats in august with 1 homerun AND 2 RBI.
                    he then hit .192 for the whole month of september in 73 at bats.

                    now, take your “LMFAOO” comment and look in the mirror.
                  • Cackletta February 9, 2013 at 8:36 am

                    I mean what do you except? If David Wright always maintained his first half stats over the second half of the year he’d be freaking Stan Musial. As it is he’s indisputably a top 15 player in the game (at least) whether you like it or not. What more can the guy do? That so-called pedestal everybody puts him on is completely deserved.
                  • Just-Da-Damaja February 9, 2013 at 9:31 am

                    So Daniel Murphy hits well in July…Well in September…but supposedly Wright had no one in front of him…

                    and Ike had the most HR for any player in the 2nd half…Wright had protection in back of him too

                    he was sandwiched by 2 productive players…while he was slumping

                    to be more specific, his slump started July 20th…

                    from july 1st – july 19th he hit .340

                    From July 20th – Oct 3rd he hit .247 with 7 HR and 28 RBI

                    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?id=wrighda03&t=b&year=2012
              • RandomGuy February 9, 2013 at 2:56 am

                I like how you forgot to mention that he had 5 doubles 7 home runs and 21rbi for the month.

                Still producing. His total production tailed off in august and september, but nice try being a smart ass.
                • RandomGuy February 9, 2013 at 3:15 am

                  Matter of fact, Scott Hairston drove in 13 people in July. He drove in 13 people for the REST OF THE SEASON after that, that’s not much production.
                • RandomGuy February 9, 2013 at 12:01 pm

                  If most of our fans are like you, now I understand why everyone thinks our fan base is a bunch of idiots.

                  Ok so to be specific, lets see, you try to use July as a month for David Wright as a terrible month. I rock you in that regard, showing you he hit 7 hr and had 21 rbi. Very productive.

                  I then prove to you that your “stars” ahead of him in the lineup, for the large majority, didn’t hit, and somehow you take the 20-25% of good that did happen ahead of him and pretend like that should have solved all his production problems.. you need people on-base ahead of you, and using the stats YOU chose to pull out, I prove there wasn’t anyone there for the last 2 months of the season, and somehow you try to use the stats I show that prove no one was on base, and you try to make the argument that that proves there were?

                  Jesus, you need help..
• RandomGuy February 8, 2013 at 6:08 pm

  I made a comment on another Topic that said, anyone who thinks Ike Davis wasn’t seriously affected in a baseball perspective by Valley Fever is absolutely the most stubborn human being I have ever had the pleasure of seeing write comments on an article.
  • Sloatsburg Mets Fan February 8, 2013 at 6:53 pm

    Nice to meet you too Random.

    Not sure what you’re implying (or even if you are) but I completely agree that he was slowed by Valley Fever and I don’t doubt it’s very tough to get over that but just like every other player, hurt or not, if you decide to play, you are accountable for your performance. I will never question if a guy decides to sit because of injury or illness but if he plays then no excuses.
    • RandomGuy February 8, 2013 at 7:01 pm

      All I am saying is I’ve seen everyone destroy Ike Davis as if he has proved he is Adam Dunn, give him a chance to be FULLY-healthy.

      The stats he put up for the season will forever be reflected in his MLB Totals at the end of his career, that is as accountable as he will be for it.

      What I am saying is anticipating the guy to hit .225 again is absolutely unreasonable, and if that is what you believe you really don’t have any type of IQ in the real world, let alone baseball.

      Wasn’t implying anything to you, or anyone specifically, just saying writing off Ike to hit .225 again and struggle is the most unintelligent statement anyone can make.
• Just-Da-Damaja February 8, 2013 at 7:10 pm

  Hey this question is directed to the FIRM.

  Why is it that when Omar was GM, everyone had the trainers, esp Ray Ramirez under a microscope…

  Now that Sandy is here, he has kept Ray Ramirez and the training crew…and still we have mishandled injury after injury here…

  Ike Davis in 2011 with the boot that cut circulation and prolonged his comeback?

  Ike Davis now confesses that he communicated with trainers his exhaustion level…and still they refused to do anything about…

  Maybe b/c there is no stat associated with trainers…Sandy doesnt care…so u dont either?
• Fred Wilpon February 8, 2013 at 9:06 pm

  This snow storm sucks…
  • Jeff Wilpon February 8, 2013 at 9:46 pm

    Dad, Can you tell Ricco to shovel the driveway for me? He’s going out for pizza, so he might as well kill 2 stones with 1 bird
    • Sandy Alderson February 9, 2013 at 1:28 am

      Jeff, don’t worry about it.
      I’ll take care of it.
  • Russell's Mets February 9, 2013 at 1:26 am

    I love this snow. I’m making snow angels as I type.
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