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		<title>By: tlagee</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/wilpons-hubris.html#comment-336871</link>
		<dc:creator>tlagee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good on ya mate!

youse should put a prawn on the bah-bee and join us he-ah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good on ya mate!</p>
<p>youse should put a prawn on the bah-bee and join us he-ah.</p>
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		<title>By: puddinhead6</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/wilpons-hubris.html#comment-336680</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that low level Phillie racist.  It&#039;s a long story, just let&#039;s say that I lost a bet about 15 years ago on the old NY Times Baseball Forums (of blessed memory. To keep up my part of the bargain I assumed the online moniker puddinhead -- and it stuck. Why the 6? That&#039;s another long but boring story.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that low level Phillie racist.  It&#8217;s a long story, just let&#8217;s say that I lost a bet about 15 years ago on the old NY Times Baseball Forums (of blessed memory. To keep up my part of the bargain I assumed the online moniker puddinhead &#8212; and it stuck. Why the 6? That&#8217;s another long but boring story.</p>
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		<title>By: Seligman</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/wilpons-hubris.html#comment-336676</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your name, is it an homage to Willie Jones?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your name, is it an homage to Willie Jones?</p>
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		<title>By: James K.</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/wilpons-hubris.html#comment-336673</link>
		<dc:creator>James K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Impressive post. MMO should have this bronzed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive post. MMO should have this bronzed!</p>
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		<title>By: puddinhead6</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 04:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right back at you and your family, Mr. tlagee.  Going to be in these parts soon to escape the heat?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right back at you and your family, Mr. tlagee.  Going to be in these parts soon to escape the heat?</p>
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		<title>By: tlagee</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/wilpons-hubris.html#comment-336541</link>
		<dc:creator>tlagee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Puddin. Happy New year!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Puddin. Happy New year!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ray sadecki</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray sadecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 18:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew,

In the last paragraph you used the word Snooty but its all good. Im glad you enjoyed my little tale. Could you imagine if it was Steingrabber instead? SECURITY ON THE DOUBLE !!!!! LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew,</p>
<p>In the last paragraph you used the word Snooty but its all good. Im glad you enjoyed my little tale. Could you imagine if it was Steingrabber instead? SECURITY ON THE DOUBLE !!!!! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: larman</title>
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		<dc:creator>larman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just don&#039;t like how the wilpons have done to this team. They are a disgrace as owners to this team. Really with the loan and refiance and you say you have gotten money back in the sum of 160 million. So you as owners won&#039;t go out their and get us product for this team. You guys should be a shame of your selves. So wrong, so again keep us losing while you collect the money from the gates and not build us a championship team. The wilpons once again screwed us fans, and you&#039;d raise ticket prices. Why are they con&#039;t to do this to us mets fan. We don&#039;t deserve this at all. So then please sell our team to owners who do give a damn about us and our team you stuipd losers. Get out now. Just do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t like how the wilpons have done to this team. They are a disgrace as owners to this team. Really with the loan and refiance and you say you have gotten money back in the sum of 160 million. So you as owners won&#8217;t go out their and get us product for this team. You guys should be a shame of your selves. So wrong, so again keep us losing while you collect the money from the gates and not build us a championship team. The wilpons once again screwed us fans, and you&#8217;d raise ticket prices. Why are they con&#8217;t to do this to us mets fan. We don&#8217;t deserve this at all. So then please sell our team to owners who do give a damn about us and our team you stuipd losers. Get out now. Just do it.</p>
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		<title>By: tuck212</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 17:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the best article on Wilpon &amp; the Medts that I have ever read. It is spot on, and completely true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the best article on Wilpon &amp; the Medts that I have ever read. It is spot on, and completely true.</p>
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		<title>By: matthew balasis</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol, that&#039;s a great story, although I don&#039;t think I ever implied he was a stuffed shirt. Eccentric and obscenely wealthy yeah. He had a great way with people, excellent rapport with the fans (he seemed to understand us).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, that&#8217;s a great story, although I don&#8217;t think I ever implied he was a stuffed shirt. Eccentric and obscenely wealthy yeah. He had a great way with people, excellent rapport with the fans (he seemed to understand us).</p>
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		<title>By: ray sadecki</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray sadecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 16:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice read but I must take exception with your deptiction of Nelson Doubleday as a stuffed shirt. Here is a little story of a meeting I had with him once. It was 1982. Shea was still Grants tomb which meant there were plenty of box seats available for a young guy who knew how to buy a general admission ticket stroll into the loge where they didnt pay much attention and jump down to the box seats in the area behind the dugouts where it was only about 6 ft down.
 Anyway I found a nice seat about 5 rows back of the dugout. there were only a few guys in suits in that row. I pull my half pint of seagrams7 out of my sock and take a glance at the suits. I recognized one of them. Hey sez I, I know you. Youre Doubleday. He says no im not. I say ok and relax to enjoy the game. 
  The suit closest to me says &quot; This IS Mr. Doubleday, would you like an autograph?&quot; sure sez I.
 The guy said give Mr doubleday your ticket and he will sign it for you. I give him my ticket. Doubleday signs it. As he gives it back he sez to me. Do you always sit down here with the cheap seat ticket? I sez why the hell not? nobody else is sitting down here. 
 Nelson let out a laugh and he was quite friendly. we started talking about the Mets like fans. He told me he wasnt too happy with George Foster. I sez what about Ellis Valentine? he was a good pickup no? I dont think so sez Mr. D. Thats all I remember from our little chat but Nelson Doubleday was a real cool guy in my book from that day on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice read but I must take exception with your deptiction of Nelson Doubleday as a stuffed shirt. Here is a little story of a meeting I had with him once. It was 1982. Shea was still Grants tomb which meant there were plenty of box seats available for a young guy who knew how to buy a general admission ticket stroll into the loge where they didnt pay much attention and jump down to the box seats in the area behind the dugouts where it was only about 6 ft down.<br />
 Anyway I found a nice seat about 5 rows back of the dugout. there were only a few guys in suits in that row. I pull my half pint of seagrams7 out of my sock and take a glance at the suits. I recognized one of them. Hey sez I, I know you. Youre Doubleday. He says no im not. I say ok and relax to enjoy the game.<br />
  The suit closest to me says &#8221; This IS Mr. Doubleday, would you like an autograph?&#8221; sure sez I.<br />
 The guy said give Mr doubleday your ticket and he will sign it for you. I give him my ticket. Doubleday signs it. As he gives it back he sez to me. Do you always sit down here with the cheap seat ticket? I sez why the hell not? nobody else is sitting down here.<br />
 Nelson let out a laugh and he was quite friendly. we started talking about the Mets like fans. He told me he wasnt too happy with George Foster. I sez what about Ellis Valentine? he was a good pickup no? I dont think so sez Mr. D. Thats all I remember from our little chat but Nelson Doubleday was a real cool guy in my book from that day on.</p>
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		<title>By: ray sadecki</title>
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		<dc:creator>ray sadecki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[jdd, 

thanks for looking up those quotes. I am interested to hear why you still want wright to be moved to the outfield after posting violas quote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdd, </p>
<p>thanks for looking up those quotes. I am interested to hear why you still want wright to be moved to the outfield after posting violas quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Just-Da-Damaja</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/wilpons-hubris.html#comment-335829</link>
		<dc:creator>Just-Da-Damaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[basically...

the gm role is really by committee with the wilpons providing a general direction...and everyone kinda putting their 2 cents in...

i still say David Wright was all Jeff/Fred Wilpon.....esp with the All-Star being held here...

Can u imagine the embarrassment if we only had 1 All-Star ...and it was someone who wasnt really deserving....but just a token selection :-/

imagine an all-star game with RA Dickey, Carlos Beltran, Jose Reyes and David Wright...and none of them are wearing Met uniforms...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>basically&#8230;</p>
<p>the gm role is really by committee with the wilpons providing a general direction&#8230;and everyone kinda putting their 2 cents in&#8230;</p>
<p>i still say David Wright was all Jeff/Fred Wilpon&#8230;..esp with the All-Star being held here&#8230;</p>
<p>Can u imagine the embarrassment if we only had 1 All-Star &#8230;and it was someone who wasnt really deserving&#8230;.but just a token selection :-/</p>
<p>imagine an all-star game with RA Dickey, Carlos Beltran, Jose Reyes and David Wright&#8230;and none of them are wearing Met uniforms&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi if,

Actually Shea was indeed unique in appearance compared to those other cookie cutter mult-purpose stadiums.

All the others were double decked going around the entire perimeter.  96 percent of Shea&#039;s seats were within the foul poles. The only park that resembled Shea&#039;s interior was actually the Astrodome except for the roof and the bleacher seats.  

One could hardly tell the difference if playing in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cincinnati and to a lesser extent, Atlanta.   Shea Stadium, on the other hand, was built with an openness behind the outfield where one had a magnificent view of Queens, Long Island and the two suspension bridges.  The view at night with all the lights sparkling - including those on the white shell behind the scoreboard - was truly breathless. 

Shea wasn&#039;t originally a dump - it was beautifully maintained those early years and if the same attention was given to it by the Wilpons, it could have remained clean and cheerful throughout - not drab, dreary and dark.  Transforming that big scoreboard into mostly a big billboard was an eyesore.

Do you remember when the escalators actually went down at the end of the game?

Yes, it was a marvel of it&#039;s time and because of that we kind of excused being further away from the action, being quite high up and even being unable to follow the flight of fly balls sitting the last two rows in the mezzanine due to the overhang (we saw the entire playing field and up to the auxiliary scoreboards and line score of the &quot;stadi-o-rama&quot; score board.

Because of this, I feel it had a charm all of it&#039;s own that&#039;s lacking at Citi Field.  I love the old ball park feel sitting in the stands at  Citi Field - I feel that is neat - and that it could eventually have a charm all of it&#039;s own, however, in order for that to change there has to be less catering to those with more money at the expense of the the average fan (at least make most all entrances open to everybody instead of being exclusionary) not to mention the overwhelming commercialism as common to new ballparks today as the cookie cutter shape was to those of the sixties.

Perhaps many of us will find Citi Field a much warmer place once the Wilpons are no longer associate with it.  Could just be that whenever we see it, we see Wilpon!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi if,</p>
<p>Actually Shea was indeed unique in appearance compared to those other cookie cutter mult-purpose stadiums.</p>
<p>All the others were double decked going around the entire perimeter.  96 percent of Shea&#8217;s seats were within the foul poles. The only park that resembled Shea&#8217;s interior was actually the Astrodome except for the roof and the bleacher seats.  </p>
<p>One could hardly tell the difference if playing in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cincinnati and to a lesser extent, Atlanta.   Shea Stadium, on the other hand, was built with an openness behind the outfield where one had a magnificent view of Queens, Long Island and the two suspension bridges.  The view at night with all the lights sparkling &#8211; including those on the white shell behind the scoreboard &#8211; was truly breathless. </p>
<p>Shea wasn&#8217;t originally a dump &#8211; it was beautifully maintained those early years and if the same attention was given to it by the Wilpons, it could have remained clean and cheerful throughout &#8211; not drab, dreary and dark.  Transforming that big scoreboard into mostly a big billboard was an eyesore.</p>
<p>Do you remember when the escalators actually went down at the end of the game?</p>
<p>Yes, it was a marvel of it&#8217;s time and because of that we kind of excused being further away from the action, being quite high up and even being unable to follow the flight of fly balls sitting the last two rows in the mezzanine due to the overhang (we saw the entire playing field and up to the auxiliary scoreboards and line score of the &#8220;stadi-o-rama&#8221; score board.</p>
<p>Because of this, I feel it had a charm all of it&#8217;s own that&#8217;s lacking at Citi Field.  I love the old ball park feel sitting in the stands at  Citi Field &#8211; I feel that is neat &#8211; and that it could eventually have a charm all of it&#8217;s own, however, in order for that to change there has to be less catering to those with more money at the expense of the the average fan (at least make most all entrances open to everybody instead of being exclusionary) not to mention the overwhelming commercialism as common to new ballparks today as the cookie cutter shape was to those of the sixties.</p>
<p>Perhaps many of us will find Citi Field a much warmer place once the Wilpons are no longer associate with it.  Could just be that whenever we see it, we see Wilpon!</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article - thanks for the link.

And I couldn&#039;t agree more with this parting shot:

&#039;...with the Winter Meetings long wrapped up, it is time for Jeff Wilpon to excuse himself from the practical side of baseball matters, and slip into the background again, or a new role, and leave baseball to the baseball guys.  Ten years later, a solid baseball acumen still lacks from his resume.&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article &#8211; thanks for the link.</p>
<p>And I couldn&#8217;t agree more with this parting shot:</p>
<p>&#8216;&#8230;with the Winter Meetings long wrapped up, it is time for Jeff Wilpon to excuse himself from the practical side of baseball matters, and slip into the background again, or a new role, and leave baseball to the baseball guys.  Ten years later, a solid baseball acumen still lacks from his resume.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Balasis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Balasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doubleday wanted to renovate Shea, that was one of the biggest disagreements he had with Wilpon who wanted a new stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubleday wanted to renovate Shea, that was one of the biggest disagreements he had with Wilpon who wanted a new stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: Puddinhead6</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That clinches it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That clinches it!</p>
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		<title>By: Puddinhead6</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puddinhead6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 04:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, tlagee. Your name is familiar. Are you some guy from Australia?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, tlagee. Your name is familiar. Are you some guy from Australia?</p>
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		<title>By: ifthevansrockin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 03:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I loved Shea.  probably because, like you, I &quot;grew up&quot; there.  And yes it was a dump, but it was our dump!

I never was in it back in the days that the stands still worked, so only saw pictures of it set up for the Jets.

But no, it certainly was not any sort of unique place, being out of that round steel donut mold so popular back in the day.

My real point was that while Wilpon may have  been misguided in using Ebbets as the inspiration for the facade of Citi,  so what?  They weren&#039;t going to recreate Shea, and citi pretty much fits the mold of what stadiums look like these days.  And I really don&#039;t buy that it somehow destroyed the Mets!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I loved Shea.  probably because, like you, I &#8220;grew up&#8221; there.  And yes it was a dump, but it was our dump!</p>
<p>I never was in it back in the days that the stands still worked, so only saw pictures of it set up for the Jets.</p>
<p>But no, it certainly was not any sort of unique place, being out of that round steel donut mold so popular back in the day.</p>
<p>My real point was that while Wilpon may have  been misguided in using Ebbets as the inspiration for the facade of Citi,  so what?  They weren&#8217;t going to recreate Shea, and citi pretty much fits the mold of what stadiums look like these days.  And I really don&#8217;t buy that it somehow destroyed the Mets!</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi  if,

Yes, I&#039;d prefer you not mentioning anything about Shea.  I still cry thinking of it and because I grew up with from the beginning and so even though that began with the Polo Grounds, Shea in my heart will always be the only real home of the Mets.

Despite it being a multi-purpose stadium, it was the only one that didn&#039;t appear as so and though the seats were high and far away, it was still a ballpark, not a shopping mall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  if,</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;d prefer you not mentioning anything about Shea.  I still cry thinking of it and because I grew up with from the beginning and so even though that began with the Polo Grounds, Shea in my heart will always be the only real home of the Mets.</p>
<p>Despite it being a multi-purpose stadium, it was the only one that didn&#8217;t appear as so and though the seats were high and far away, it was still a ballpark, not a shopping mall.</p>
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