Comments on: Who Will The Mets Get To Fill The Rotation? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html Thu, 23 May 2013 15:51:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: jerseymet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347254 jerseymet Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:07:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347254 It still comes down to keeping your best players on the field.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347245 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:02:23 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347245 Same thing was said back when they used a 4 Man rotation about the 5 man! LOL

1 – Lack of Pitching, Hard enough to find 4 good starters for a rotation with some unproven or average pitcher as your 5th let alone find a 5th AND 6th starter…
2 – No one has ever really gone a whole season doing it and had success so no one else has really tried it. So they are not sold yet….
3 – The three games series! You want to have your ace pitch once in at every series. By having a 5 man if he starts the first game/series he will finish out the second series for you. Go to a 6 man and the top of your rotation pitches one series and the bottom of the rotation pitches the next one.

So the rotation of 5 helps you avoid the sweep in every series and you hope one of the others can win and win the series for you.
Great idea provided the ACE wins every game but doesn’t always work that way.

]]> By: jerseymet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347222 jerseymet Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:42:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347222 There must be a reason that the Majors don’t use the 6 man. Young was at best good for 5 innings. A spring training duel starter game may have saved the bullpen.

]]> By: DrDooby http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347198 DrDooby Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:13:11 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347198 I very much expect Chris Young to return on a 1-year contract, somewhere in the 2 to 3 million $ range with a few incentives eventually. He seems like a better bet than Pavano & Lowe who are more hittable, older and probably closer to washed up. Any of the three would suffice though as we´re merely looking at a placeholder for 3 months if all goes well who can later be “disposed” if no longer needed.

Wheeler – Mejia – McHugh should all get half a season, starting games at AAA. None of the three has more than maybe 10 starts at the AAA level thus far. And at least Wheeler & Mejia have well below 400 pro innings under their belt for now and should at least go over that figure.
McHugh looked tired late last season but certainly has solid potential in a Dillon Gee sort of way, so I wouldn´t write him off. However, he´d also benefit from a bit more time at AAA.

Hefner is a nice long reliever / spot starter who throws strikes – but probably not good enough for a permanent spot in the rotation. Neither is Laffey.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347187 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 17:02:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347187 Rediculous to say on one hand we have a lot of young pitching in the waiting that just isn’t ready yet so we are going to buy Pitching when you have NO OUTFIELD in waiting OR on the MLB squad and you won’t sign anyone to play there….

Use what you have and BUY what you don’t.

Instead we trade what we have and then don’t buy!

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347182 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:57:08 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347182 Maybe but 99.9% of the time they pull him based on the score and situation, not because he hit his pitch count.

Sure they could increase the Pitch count for all but I saw no evidence of them doing that last year when they had the 6 man rotation going….

And in the end that 6th guy hurt the pen more than the other 5 saved it.
Cause that 6th guy rarely ever got past the 5th or 6th and blew out the pen for the rest of the 5 Man rotation….

But what you say is theortically possible and logical.
Just not sure they actually put the two together that way.

]]> By: jerseymet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347176 jerseymet Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:53:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347176 In a six man rotation, I would think that we would push them deeper into the game. Less lefty righty stuff. More letting them work their way out of trouble. More mental toughness. More use of third and fourth pitches. More rest between starts. I wonder how many bullpens are worn out by always warming up?

]]> By: jerseymet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347173 jerseymet Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:45:56 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347173 Yes, and it is cheap too! 500K per pro rated. Schwinden is filler. Let him fill the role that Acosta, Batista and Beato once filled. That of designated forfeitter.

]]> By: Lareplus http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347169 Lareplus Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:40:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347169 I don’t want the Mets to waste resources on a starter that isn’t that good, we’ve already got the young guys who need a chance to prove themselves and Wheeler will be up before too long. Instead I want to see a solid addition to the bullpen, more a need in my opinion.

If they are going to add anyone else it should be a topflight outfielder but that isn’t going to happen unless they give up prospects and I don’t want them to do that either.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347166 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:32:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347166 Niese’s is a bigger concern than Gee’s I agree with that…

I don’t have an issue with them going to a 6 man…But I’m not one that thinks it actually has the desired affect…

It may keep them healthier but will hurt thier endurance in the long run.
And it will be a problem when they get into a situation where you can’t take them out like it was when Johan pitched the No NO and was never quite the same….

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347165 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:30:00 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347165 And what doesn’t work as a starter will go towards filling the Pen problems.

I get they want to give Familia a bit more time in AAA (not that pitching in Vegas is going to help him at all, more likely hurt him)…

So start Mejia and if he can’t cut it move him to the pen, by then Familia will have some time and get his shot….

Same deal with him, if he can’t hack being a starter you have the option of putting him in the pen as well.

No need to fill a space that gives you fewer options to try out what you have only to have to do it next year anyway.

If we truly have a glut of Pitching then use it!

]]> By: jerseymet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347164 jerseymet Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:25:51 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347164 Niese had some issues also. This staff has question marks. I would love to see us use a six man staff. This is audition year. Plus we are selling pitching: why run up the innings?

]]> By: jerseymet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347161 jerseymet Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:22:09 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347161 Agreed! With our pitching pipeline from the farm; why clog it up with filler. We have guys who once were prospects and are now aged out. It is time for trial by fire. Give them a chance to have a career.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347135 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:44:09 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347135 Well I wouldn’t call Gee’s injury significant…
It was a blood clot and while the solution was significant the issue that caused it is not.

It is treatable via medication (not a physical problem) but it can be a chronic problem if the medication doesn’t work well.

And who can say it may even have been an isolated freak incident that never happens again.

Santana I agree with you that was a significant injury and there are still questions about his durability and even to some degree his effectiveness….

]]> By: TJ http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347133 TJ Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:38:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347133 JM,
I disagree on this. Alderson needs to come up with the 10-12 game established MLB starter that he referred to when he traded RA primarily to protect the young pitching. Yes, it may help the team compete for 3rd instead of 4th, but that is secondary. Right now, they have two guys – Santana and Gee – returning from significant injuries. Santana is a big unknown, and he can range from 1st half 2012 form to washed up. Also, he will be gone July 31 if pitching well unless the Mets are in a playoff spot, which is unlikely. Harvey will be on some type of innings limit this year. McGugh and Hefner are emergency guys at this point, not someone breaking camp with a SP spot. They need to give Wheeler, and for that matter Mejia as well, as much time in AAA as needed to refine secondary pitches/command. That can be 6 weeks, it can be 4 months. By signing a vet, in the worst case scenario, which would actually be the best case scenario, the kids push their way into the starting 5, and the Mets can shift SP(s) to pen or deal SP(s) to make room.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347125 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:28:34 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347125 and when I say audition I’m talking internal candidates…

No one believed Gee was ready when he came up either and he surprised us…Pays to know what we have.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347123 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:27:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347123 I personally think this season would be a good one to audition potential replacements for Santana next year.

We all so worried about filling Dickey’s spot but Wheeler will eventually do that.
What we need to determine is who is going to take over next season when we cut that 25 Mil because most of that is going to have to go to the OF if they spend it at all.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347121 Metsie Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:25:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347121 Only if he is actually pitching well enough for someone to want him….
any hint of injury or struggling and there could be no takers…

]]> By: jerseymet http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347115 jerseymet Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:18:30 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347115 Don’t waste the money or the roster space on filler. Use the arms we already have. We are a fourth place team. Are we trying to surge to third?

]]> By: Boomer http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/who-will-the-mets-get-to-fill-the-rotation.html#comment-347101 Boomer Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:10:57 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105515#comment-347101 You do realize that Santana is gone by the trading deadline, right?

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