Comments on: Sandy Alderson Met With Bourn And Boras in Houston http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html Wed, 22 May 2013 07:16:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352861 Donal Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:56:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352861 Of course the guy in charge of development gets a say in the draft. But, he doesn’t run it.

]]> By: Just-Da-Damaja http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352850 Just-Da-Damaja Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:46:02 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352850 Depo is a very big part of the prospect selection process.

There are at least 10 different folks involved from the scout all the way up to Jeff and Fred.

You can have a great scout but if the pieces above him are not supportive, it doesnt matter..

every level is more dependent on the level above him for success.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352832 Donal Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:03:00 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352832 See, you went and looked something up and learned something new because I pointed out the goofy thing you said( not personally attacking you, mind you, just what you said). You’re a slightly better person because I teased you.

You’re welcome.

]]> By: Donal http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352831 Donal Wed, 30 Jan 2013 02:01:36 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352831 My point is depo doesn’t run the drafts, which has been established before. There really isn’t a lot of reading between the lines there.

No idea why you decided to lecture here, but whatever. It’s your place.

]]> By: TJ http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352761 TJ Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:02:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352761 Regardless of whether it is the Mets involved or not, or the specific wording of the agreement, it makes no sense to me why one of the 10 worst teams would lose protection if its 1st round pick due to some other team failing to sign its pick in the prior year. The same holds true for the 2nd round pick the Mets are awarded for failing to sign their 2nd rounder last year. To me, if you don’t sign the pick, oh well, but that’s just me. I don’t expect Uncle Bud to be calling for my 2 cents.

]]> By: peter http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352712 peter Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:36:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352712 Stanton should be the target, he is a right fielder, right handed, and has massive power. Exactly what the Mets need, he is a perfect fit.He probably does not go on the market until next off season which is good. It really makes no sense to trade him now or during the season for Miami, they still got him cheap and there is no other reason to go to a game in Miami. Plus the market for him will be bigger next off season.They will trade him before he hits arbitration though.This is one of the main reasons the Mets can not give up the first round pick. It can help to obtain Stanton or keep the system somewhat respectable. There is almost no doubt in my mind Sandy goes after him. I hope one of Montero, Fullmer, or Mateo, goes nuts this year in the minors. With Syndergaurd,Flores, and one of those pitcher there is a good chance the Mets can land him. Obviously there would be a prospect or two more to have to be given.

]]> By: Joe D http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352707 Joe D Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:30:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352707 So I’m confused… How do I classify you? Are you a SLU–RPER or a part of the CORE? Are you at the altar burning incense? Or are you on the ledge threatening to jump? Which one is it? There is no middle ground. :-)

]]> By: rob http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352702 rob Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:25:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352702 Since Alderson’s arrival, I’ve been truly fed up with him.
However, I do applaud his decision in this case.
Simply put, Michael Bourn does NOT warrant the money Boras is wanting.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352619 Metsie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:37:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352619 In both your scenarios your not going to get a GOOD player back….
Your going to get Kids for one of YOUR good players….

If they lost talent due to injury they certainly aren’t going to give MORE talent away….
SO in both those scenarios we would be sellers not buyers.

Best case is some other team has TOO MANY good players at a position you need and will trade you thier depth for something else they are less deep in…

In the end your just trading Depth for Depth….

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352616 Metsie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:34:17 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352616 They dnt need conditions, just set the protected status BEFORE te award compensation picks.

The 10 worst teams determines who has protected picks and then the COMPs can be awarded after that protection is determined.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352613 Metsie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:28:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352613 And in year’s previous…If a team had no 1st rounder but had a COMP pick and was due to lose a pick due to signing away an FA would they have lost thier COMP pick since it was thier highest?

I doubt it….

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352607 Metsie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:18:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352607 Just to add I DO agre with what you said about Seligula being in a place where too much favoritism towards the mets is in play….

Which is probably why he won’t say or hear a thing until the deal is actually made, He can poll the owners on the issue and then make a decision.

Right now NO DECISION and NO COMMENT is all we will get…
It solves thier problem by keeping the price on a bourn honest and will deal with it after a deal is actually made instead of setting a precedent that they will be forced to stick to for the duration.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352602 Metsie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:14:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352602 Actually it was part of the NEW CBA if I’m not mistaken….
Before that (last year even) ity was the top 15….

And since Seligula was in charge of negotiating the CBA My guess is it would be left to him to decide cause I don’t see them having some emergency meeting vote just to give us protected status.

In either case we would be better off if it was Seligula’s call…The league is not interested in making exceptions to protected picks they would love it if NO picks were protected because it keeps the prices down and they get more picks for anyone they might lose.

SO it’s really the League (rest of it) that WANTS it to be the way it is….
The Players association are on board and supporting us if we make a petition.

]]> By: jessep http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352601 jessep Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:13:58 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352601 “A Club that signs one Qualified Free Agent who is subject to compensation shall forfeit its highest available selection in the next Rule 4 Draft”

So that is not accurate. If the Pirates pick last year was say 11th and they didn’t sign him… their comp pick would be the first to go if they signed a free agent.

]]> By: ifthevansrockin http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352600 ifthevansrockin Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:13:56 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352600 one thing for sure. After the deadline passes, before next off season, they need to release a definitive position on this, so there is no ambiguity going into next year. Real simple, 2 lines should take care of it, and then everyone will know for sure.

]]> By: srt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352598 srt Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:12:48 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352598 Regarding your first question…..could be a variety of scenarios. For instance, some team has their rotation and BP set and 2 arms in the starting rotation go down in ST for the year. Or one SP and their closer. That team might be looking at trading to fill those holes rather than what they may/may not have on the farm.

Just saying there has been deals done during ST before, if not a ton like during the true off season.

]]> By: TRS86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352593 TRS86 Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:10:53 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352593 Yes….
So perhaps they could develop a system based if you lose the pick then it’s conditional on how you finish? Kinda like how the NBA does with trading picks.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352592 Metsie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:09:58 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352592 Who is going to trade someone who could help before the season starts?
All the trades that you see are minimalist depth trades and never anything significant…

Teams are not going to have a major change of heart during ST and if there was someone they wanted to trade they would have tried to trade him by now.

Sure anything is possible….Someone could hand you the winning Powerball ticket….
Possible is hardly probable.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352589 Metsie Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:06:43 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352589 ‘m willing to bet that even if they were awarded the 12th pick if they lost a pick it would STILL be that 14th overall not the pick they got in COMP.

]]> By: jessep http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/sandy-alderson-met-with-bourn-and-boras-in-houston.html#comment-352588 jessep Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:06:42 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=105931#comment-352588 yeah but what if Pit was terrible in 2012? Wouldn’t they need the protected pick just as much as anybody?

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