Comments on: MMO Mailbag: Trading For Promising Outfielders?

By: The real cactus

The real cactus — Wed, 16 Jan 2013 00:39:36 +0000

Wow you guys are prickly. Like it.

By: Herb G

Herb G — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 05:56:49 +0000

There’s an awful lot of outfielders besides Trumbo, Pollock and Brown, major leaguers and MLB ready prospects, that Alderson should be actively pursuing right now, to see who he can get with the best deal. Consider:

Emilio Bonifacio or Rajai Davis from Toronto.
Coco Crisp from the A’s (OK, maybe his $7 million for 2013 is more than they want to spend)
Alejandro De Aza from the ChiSox
Eric Young Jr. from the Rockies
Khris Davis from the Brewers
Leonys Martin from Texas
Kole Calhoun from the Angels
Francisco Peguero from the Giants (great speed but SBs were down in 2012 – leg problem?)
Jerry Sands from the Pirates
Tony Campana frm the Cubbies

With a list like that if Alderson can’t get a good starting outfielder, he should hang ‘em up.

And I still feel that he should make a run at Giancarlo Stanton with a package like Syndergaard, Murphy or Flores, Mejia or Familia, Tapia or Montero, and Vaughn or Nimmo.

By: Joe

Joe — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 00:18:19 +0000

Texas Rangers are looking for a 1B/DH. Send Duda to Texas, Texas sends Craig Gentry to the Diamondbacks & the DB send Kubel to the Mets.
Better do it fast before Texas gets Berkman.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:09:50 +0000

To me it is not that big a flag considering the Pitching focus of AA over A Ball…

In A Ball Pitchers work on Pitches and when they get to A Ball they focus on throwing strikes.

A lot of that drop off in OBP could be merely due to the fact that those A Ball walks were not presented to him as often as before and his BA was the dominant factor in his OBP.

We all assume a .300 OBP is low but it’s not if your BA is around .270 to .290. You are showing the Plate discipline expected of a Batter but he probably needs some mechanical adjustment to his swing which is why he is in the Minors in the first place….

I never put much stock in OBP if the BA is there in the MLB, and I put even LESS stock when looking at A Ball and AA ball players…It’s not until AAA that it has any semblence of meaning as far as what to expect on the MLB level AFAIC

By: Coolbreez

Coolbreez — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:00:04 +0000

I really do believe the Mets have no interest in improving the team this year. and I don’t blame them if the plan to get better is really for 2014

1 they are not going to sign any free agent this year that will cost them thier draft pick.

2. if they finish with one of the 10 worst records in baseball next year they can sign any top tier free agent with out giving up next years pick. so why sign anyone that will make them better?

3. if 2014 really is the year we go for it, then next year will be our last low first round pick we we have for a while. so might as well finish in the bottom 10 and get a great prospect.

I hope that this really is the plan..if it is I can make sense of all the non moves the Mets have made this year for our outfield/penn.

By: Mitch Petanick

Mitch Petanick — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:48:53 +0000

The thing that raises a red flag about Gary Brown is how his OBP dipped from his jump to double A – 60 points is a significant drop off. He has to get on base so or a team won’t be able to take advantage of that speed.

By: Chicago Days

Chicago Days — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:30:35 +0000

Yes i hope so. The kid has put up some great SLG% & ISO #s @ AA.

By: Vinny B

Vinny B — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:25:47 +0000

Good point. He struggled after he was first called up to AA, but tore the league up last year. I expect him to putt up big numbers in Las Vegas this year, and he might make it up here sooner than we think.

By: Chicago Days

Chicago Days — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:20:35 +0000

Great post. i’d prefer hanging onto Wheeler, d’Anaud, Syndergaard and with Ike, Niese, Harvey, Gee, and Wright for 2 – 3 years, have a solid core to be a playoff team for a few years. And pray 1 of Kirk, MDD, Nimmo, Puello can do it at the MLB Level. Otherwise, we’ll be OF poor for a long time!

By: Chicago Days

Chicago Days — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 21:11:52 +0000

You could be right. MDD might be an option relatively soon. He does have some power. Strikes out too much, but whatever. He seems to struggle 1st year at a higher level, then adjusts and has a strong rebound year.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:49:41 +0000

You see THATS your issue right there!

It’s always about PREMIUM or it’s NOTHING!

Like there are no Average or Above average players that could solve a problem for us as well as Duda could solve a problem for them?

It’s either we make a trade for a BA Lister or it’s not a deal worth making and the player we have is WORTHLESS if he doesn’t get you a BA lister….

Either he gets you the moon or he is worthless….

This is the thinking that has stopped us from making SMART TRADES that don’t require one side or the other being raped and merely find fits where a player we have improves a need for them and in return they have a player of EQUAL value who fills a need better than all these MiL contract scrubs we will be forced to play as MLB starters this year….

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:45:19 +0000

By themselves maybe not but it sure s enough to make our lesser prospects enough to get what you seemigly can’t get past them getting by themselves in a deal….

You seem to rate each deal as a one on one swap when Sandy is about the only idiot who makes such short sighted deals…
Because he doesn’t value his players and kids as much as he values everyone elses….

And many people here suffer from the same affliction…
They put on a Met Uni and thier value decreases to a third of what they are worth to you guys.

By: Hotstreak

Hotstreak — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:44:20 +0000

I get the Marlin games and their very biased announcers, promote Stanton to the hilt. However they have fan tweets/emails which they read. Stanton is very streaky just like Wright and they talk about it a lot such as “what will get Stanton going again?”. Stanton K’s a lot something like thirty percent and for a full year which I project to 180 K’s. Stanton on a bad team did not walk enough as he “K” ratio is at least 2 to 1. Stanton is NOT the next coming of Joe DiMaggio. Stanton may be a HOF at the end of his career but he may just be a low average Hr. guy. In 2011 he played 150 games and had 34 hrs. and only 87 RBI’s (sounds like Ike Davis to me). In 2012 he played 123 games and had 37 hrs. and only 86 RBI’s (sounds like Ike Davis to me. I project him at BEST a career .280, 40 hr. 100 RBI guy for maybe 13 years. Yes he will hit over 500 hrs. in a non steroid era. 180 K’s per year is alot in the middle of the order.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:41:48 +0000

Isn’t being LH and able to leadoff a bigger advantage?
Your two to three steps closer to first then?

By: Vinny B

Vinny B — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:24:14 +0000

I also think MDD is the better prospect than Pollock. I think MDD has a higher upside than him because of his outstanding defense in CF, and he possesses more power potential. MDD has a lower floor, but a much higher upside IMO.

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:15:50 +0000

If Duda had premium value he wouldn’t still be here.

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:14:24 +0000

OK so Duda or Murphy will bring back as much in a trade as a top prospect? Got it.

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:12:10 +0000

Being RH and able to lead-off are big advantages though.

By: Vinny B

Vinny B — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 20:09:59 +0000

Pollock is actually similar to Kirk. They are both the same age, and they both don’t have any great tools, but almost all of their tools is about average or above average. They are both are examples of the sum being larger than the parts.

The difference between them is that Pollock has less power than Kirk, but Pollock is a more disciplined hitter and strikes out a lot less. Pollock is right handed, so they could make a nice platoon, but I wouldn’t give up that much to get him because he isn’t really that better than what we already have.

By: Chicago Days

Chicago Days — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:37:48 +0000

I take it back. i don’t Pollock is better than Kirk or even MDD. Eaton, on the other hand, would be an upgrade over our current OF crop.