I know some think Cerrone posts false numbers for the poll results, but he has no reason to. And at times the results were in the opposite direction, so if he had an agenda, then he would have changed the numbers then.

Just because your paranoid….LOL

Let me put it this way: I’m arguing that the team is weaker now because Beltran, Reyes, and Dickey aren’t here – That’s my main point. So, in 2009, Reyes, Beltran, and Dickey, weren’t there for most of the year either! And in Dickey’s case he wasn’t here at all.

My reasons why the 2009 was bad, is the same reason I think the team now is weaker: Reyes, Beltran, and Dickey weren’t there. Reyes and Beltran played sparingly in 09, and Dickey wasn’t here. And in 2013, all of them won’t be here.

Btw, Wade did sign Victorino. And I forgot to mention that Gillick traded for Rowand and Lidge.

Well I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion.

If the 2013 Mets do poorly this season, I trust I won’t be seeing you trash Sandy on this forum, then, without also trashing Omar.

For the Phillies, I DO give Wade credit for building the foundation of that team. I believe Howard, Utley, Rollins, and Hamels were all drafted and developed under his watch. In also give credit to Gillick because he signed complimentary pieces like Victorino and Werth that helped put them over the top.

Wade and Gillick get joint credit IMO. Wade built the team, and Gillick added the pieces to put them over the top.

And it’s relative too. You saying that the Castillo move was worse than acquiring Torres is based on nothing factual or solid and simply based on an intangible you created out of thin air and that’s your mission to protect Alderson at any cost.

Sandy Alderson wasted 2.4 million on DJ Carrasco, 12 million on Francisco so far and 3.5 million wasted on Rauch. Add up all the useless minor league contracts over the last 3 years and the Mets having some “alleged” financial problems it’s all relative. Alderson wasting at least 18 million of the Mets precious dollars with the small amount of major league moves he’s made hurt too. I would say his percentage of bad contracts so far is WORSE than Omar’s, relatively speaking. Also Omar oversaw WINNING.

That’s all i care about. Not well thought out debates about contracts or finances. I’m interested in WINNING BALL GAMES and until Alderson brings as much winning to the Mets as Minaya or Phillips you have no game and nothing to say in defense of him. And Omar also provided the players that Alderson turned into Wheeler and d’Arnaud & Syndegaard while at the same time he’s purposely tanking in order to get higher draft picks.

And I already mentioned guys that could have been signed/kept after the 2007 season for much cheaper than Castillo got…both per year and more importantly, not requiring 4 year deals to sign. And then there were others available after 2008 (like Hudson) if they had signed a stop gap in 2007. There weren’t tons of great players available…. but ones that would have made a lot more sense to sign than forking over 4 years to Castillo.

And the Castillo deal was worse than the Torres, etc. stuff. Because again, it impacted the team for 4 years. And it was at a time where ownership wasn’t broke, the GM actually had some freedom. That deal along with others of the Omar era….and the overall huge payroll with the huge lack of success in his last couple years is the reason the team got in the mess they were in and part of the reason why guys like Torres and Frank are the extent of their “spending”.

Some of you want things both ways!

And the 1:48 post is still there because, as I ALREADY said, Joe D was not here at the time. He emailed me. But some of your other garbage had already been deleted.

Now go back to posting as other people and agreeing with yourself! You’re more interesting that way!

Two LOLs plus a REAL LOL?

Have JoeD check the IP logs….

And by the way the post you say JoeD deleted of mine that was insulting you is still there…SO much for that fantasy….

But here is something that could be interesting….Maybe lol is Metro!
And your really just talking to yourself….

JoeD will tell us all in the morning I suppose but I was not any of those LOL posts sorry to burst you LOLLE Bubbles…

The Mes in 2011 lost their ALL-STAR third baseman for a good chunk of the season with a serious injury that likely also impacted his play the rest of the season. They lost their biggest power bat. They lost their speediest guy TWICE during the season. They NEVER had Santana for even one start. And then they also lost Murphy.

It doesn’t matter who may have filled in. They lost multiple front-line starting players for huge chunks of the season. Stomped again!

And K-Rod wanted to test the market so much he accepted arb from the Brewers at the end of 2011 instead of becoming a FA! LOL. You’ve been thoroughly stomped!

yes, the same boras who encourages all his clients to test the free-agent market whenever possible

maybe it was todd boras instead of scott boras !!!