Mets Avoid Arbitration With Daniel Murphy

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• MetsMan86 January 29, 2013 at 9:04 pm

  Nice meeting in the middle settlement.
• Donal January 29, 2013 at 9:05 pm

  #Imwith28
• tlagee January 29, 2013 at 9:50 pm

  I reckon that Murph is the best pure hitter the Mets have right now, with the exception of Wright. He hits line drives and with a bit of power as his 38 doubles in ’09 and 40 doubles in ’11 show.

  I wish we had a whole team of those type of hitters. I would take Murphy’s .292 lifetime average over Ike’s power any day.
  • Donal January 29, 2013 at 9:58 pm

    You need both. As great as having guys like Murphy is, you just can’t replace the instant game changer of a 450 foot bomb.
    • tlagee January 29, 2013 at 10:11 pm

      Hey Donal -

      I would agree if Ike could:

      1) hit better than .227 (maybe .275 – .285))
      2) Hit lefties better than .174 (maybe .250 – .260)
      3) have a higher OBP than .308 (Maybe .330 – .350)

      Right now, he doesn’t put the ball in play enough to justify the bombs. Especially since more than half of his homers came with the bases empty. 17 homers = 17 RBI. And his 141 strikeouts translate into a lot of rally-killing at bats.

      Hopefully he’ll turn it around this year and we can have both.
      • taskmaster4450 January 29, 2013 at 10:26 pm

        Ike drove on more than 90 runs while hitting .227. And yes he did hit some solo shots, which a lot of power hitters do, but he also hit a bunch of 2 and 3 run bombs also (in addition to a granny).

        I agree he needs to get those numbers up, especially against lefties.
• Joey D. January 29, 2013 at 10:00 pm

  I’m glad it was settled between all parties rather than it going to arbitration where it gets ugly. In the future, it might be different as the stakes get higher and the barbecue pit gets smaller. Depends less on performance as it does the fiscal state of affairs.
• Boomer January 29, 2013 at 10:06 pm

  For all the heat Alderson gets around here he’s done a nice job of getting these cases negotiated in a way that seems to make all parties happy.
  • taskmaster4450 January 29, 2013 at 10:27 pm

    That actually is the Met way. Throughout their history, they had very few cases go to mediation. Most are settled.
    • Boomer January 29, 2013 at 10:31 pm

      It may be a Met goal but somebody still has to make it happen. Kind of unfair to hammer Alderson day in and day out for any slight real or perceived and then not give him credit when he does a good job.
      • Bayonne Mets Fan January 29, 2013 at 10:35 pm

        ah so something that has been par for the course for this organization suddenly is different.

        Got it.

        Routine personnel decisions that have historically gone well for this organization are suddenly elevated to being “good moves” now. But this is different, this is magical worthy of some kind of gregorian chant.

        Okay.
        • Boomer January 29, 2013 at 10:37 pm

          How are we ever going to achieve your goal of us not speaking when you continue to address me? Do you need my attention that bad?
          • Padilla January 30, 2013 at 7:40 am

            Dear Boomer: Do you know anything about baseball? Obviosuly not. For if you did you would know theery simple fact that for years now there have been very very few cases that actually go to the arbiter. To give Alderson cerdit for doing something that is so routine every baseball fan with just rudimentary knowledge ignores it as jsut a new contract. Tell your man that when he hires the nenxt wave of puppets that he should make sure they at least know what a baseball is, and what the field looks like. The alderson love has failed so miserably that even little school children now call their puppets, the little Sandy’s.
      • Just-Da-Damaja January 29, 2013 at 11:14 pm

        its called having low standards…

        You doing jumping jacks b/c Sandy avoided arbitration is just par for the course.
      • Just-Da-Damaja January 29, 2013 at 11:36 pm

        For a team that is in rebuild phase…i wonder why Sandy never went after that Cuban CF that Beane signed….

        He could’ve traded Pagan for a B-prospect…

        Pagan made 4 mil last year…

        Cespedes made 6.5 mil…

        Cespedes signed a 4 year 34 mil deal…at age 25…

        remind me again why we think Sandy is a great GM?

        lmaoo
  • Bayonne Mets Fan January 29, 2013 at 10:29 pm

    I guess it’s an organizational thing? Since this is the 5th straight year with no arbitration cases covering two regimes with the last 2 being the current regime it’s just a “Met” thing that these hearings have been going well recently.

    I don’t see anything different, magical, supernatural as a result of some kind analytical analysis, or enchanting here.

    Just a good run of no arbitration cases.
    • K Maxx January 29, 2013 at 10:38 pm

      It’s like some people go out of their way to find anything to credit Alderson with. I don’t get the obsession. So I guess Minaya was a genius because he did it 3 straight years? Is that how it works? I dont think either are geniuses, I’m just curious why some go out of their way to put him on a pedestal when we’ve won nothing yet.
    • Joe January 30, 2013 at 2:03 am

      For 16 years the Mets split the difference. Ballplayer wants 10M, Mets offer an amount where they will be comfortable splitting the difference.

      Ball player wants 10M, but they feel hes worth 7M, so they offer 5M…..then they both agree on 7M…..its not rocket science.

      Must read before a GM even considers arbitrational talks, “The Art Of The Deal”.
• Mr North Jersey January 29, 2013 at 10:14 pm

  So now that that is over with the Mets will go into their 5th year of not having an arbitration hearing. The last player to go to arbitration? According to Adam Rubin it was Oliver Perez back in 2008. That year according to the Associated Press Oliver Perez won his arbitration hearing and was awarded $6.5M rather than what the Mets offered $4.725M.
  • taskmaster4450 January 29, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    Rubin also mentioned that Perez’s agent was none other than Scott Boras; so it is not surprising.
    • Joe January 30, 2013 at 2:09 am

      EVERYTHING about Perez spelled P-R-I-C-K.
      I had actually wanted the Mets to go after him after his first monster year w/Pirates, but he became such a prima donna nightmare after we inked him.

      Its not very common that you hear of a player/pitcher that has basically lost the plate the way he did, and refuse to take a stint down to the minors because he thought he was above it. What a joke…I loved what we did though…he thought we would release him so he didnt take up a spot on the bullpen bench, but instead we let him rot for 2(?) months out there before putting him in a mop up game at the end of the season….who were the manager & pitching coach then?
      • Just-Da-Damaja January 30, 2013 at 6:50 am

        No, as a person actually Perez was ok after he signed the contract….

        Perez and Maine did pretty good with Rick Peterson as their pitching coach…

        Perez needs stability….

        In 4 seasons as a met, he had 100 catchers, 2 pitching coaches, 2 managers, and an assortment of injuries.

        In terms of not willing to go down to the minors, Perez was a pawn in the Boras vs NYM game that year…

        if u recall Boras and the Mets were beefing ALL year over Beltran’s knee, they tried ripping up his contract over that issue.

        Then Boras tried getting the Mets to DL Perez on a mental health issue and have him see his psychologist ( that Pelf was using too )

        The mets said NO

        Then Boras had Perez decline the minor league assignment

        They were in a pissing match all year…

        thats why a month later, Perez gets outed by Jeff Wilpon for not showing up to the Walter Reed hospital

        The year that the mets had the highest attendance, 4 people did not go, Castillo, Perez, Beltran and Gee. Jeff decides to leak out that he is raging mad that the first 3 did not go…and Gee was excused because he had to pitch later that day….

        Was Jeff mad in 2009 when LESS people went? nope
        in 2008? nope
        2007? nope

        Its clear as day to see what was going on b/w the mets and perez

        this is why u never heard a peep about perez in SD, or Pitt or now in Seattle…but when he plays in NY he is the anti-christ

        same with beltran

        same with castillo

        all these guys had good quiet careers before they came here…

        every burp and fart turns into a nuclear bomb when the media wants to make it so…
        • Kay January 30, 2013 at 7:46 am

          “Perez needs stability….

          In 4 seasons as a met, he had 100 catchers, 2 pitching coaches, 2 managers, and an assortment of injuries.”

          Funny – sounds like excuses, I thought excuses can’t be made on MLB players or do you just pick and chose who can use them?
          • Alex68 January 30, 2013 at 8:02 am

            Funny – sounds like excuses, I thought excuses can’t be made on MLB players or do you just pick and chose who can use them?”

            Pick and choose seems the latter… You should know by now that’s the way it works no? Why else would anybody still say wright is clutch or worth that contract
            • Met Maniac January 30, 2013 at 10:14 am

              Hey Alex, give her a big kiss for me.
              • Kay January 30, 2013 at 12:07 pm

                Yeah, you don’t bait or instigate
            • Kay January 30, 2013 at 12:09 pm

              So you it’s true, you don’t know the meaning of excuse or reason. Maybe in the future you should try and read the thread before you reply because most times you’re reply makes no sense and makes no sense to what is being discussed.
• Mr North Jersey January 29, 2013 at 10:18 pm

  Off Topic: Syndergaard(#29), d’Arnaud(#8) and Wheeler(#6) placed in the top 29 of Mayo’s Top 50 prospects list.

  Congrats on the recognition.
  • Mr North Jersey January 29, 2013 at 10:19 pm

    My bad should read d’Arnaud(#6) and Wheeler(#8).
    • sallybaby January 29, 2013 at 10:29 pm

      Wow d’Arnaud higher than Wheeler? Many of other top prospects lists have Wheeler over d’Arnaud.
      • Donal January 30, 2013 at 7:37 am

        Ranking systems are more tiered. That’s why most guys have the same 5 or so at the top, just slightly different orders.
  • K Maxx January 29, 2013 at 10:33 pm

    Good to hear, but I lost some respect for Mayo when he had Reese Havens #6 in his last rankings. Thought that was nuts.
    • Mr North Jersey January 29, 2013 at 11:01 pm

      He had the Rangers prospect Profar #1 ahead of the pitcher Bundy. Wondering of he will be the only one to see it that way. I saw where Keith Law has his rankings coming out next Tuesday.
• Just-Da-Damaja January 29, 2013 at 11:16 pm

  watching highlights of Endy Chavez on ESPN this morning made me wonder…

  why did Sandy never try to make a run at Endy?

  Good defense ? check..

  Speed ? check…

  Good situational bunter ? check…

  good in the clubhouse ? check…

  inexpensive? check….

  fan favorite ? check ….
• Jerry M January 29, 2013 at 11:19 pm

  Wel deserved raise by Murphy. He has been a guy who was moved from spopt to spot but never complained. He is a tireless worker & team player. He will be very good this year 18-20 HRs are not out the question.
  • Mr North Jersey January 29, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    Recently married as well I understand. I’m sure his wife will put that raise to good use.
    • hotstreak January 30, 2013 at 12:55 am

      Daniel and Victoria at Sandy relief as volunteers:

      http://1495sports.com/2013/01/16/1495-sports-photo-gallery-daniel-murphy-volunteers-with-new-york-cares/

      I met Murphy and he is a good guy.
• Joe January 30, 2013 at 1:08 am

  Check out this article on Yahoo Sports:

  http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantasy-roto-arcade/pressing-questions-york-mets-200644743–fantasy.html
• SheawasBetter86 January 30, 2013 at 6:58 am

  Perez needs stability? Oh, okay, then him pitching like crap was someone else’s fault…

  Who’s to blame, if you can’t or won’t blame the player for their own performance? Was Sandy around? Omar? Willie? I’d rather blame the guy who couldn’t live up to the contract and refuse to go down to aaa to try and get better without hurting the team.
• peter January 30, 2013 at 9:06 am

  Alderson has brought in two of baseballs top ten prospects that are major league ready this year. Not top prospects just for the team, but top prospects in all of baseball at 6th and 8th.The only team in baseball to have two prospects in the top ten. Syndergaurd moved up 66 spots to 29 and could be top ten next year, ahhhhh something that is not par for the course with this organization.
  • Met Maniac January 30, 2013 at 10:16 am

    I agree, but it’s not like we gave up an All Star caliber outfielder and a reigning Cy Young to get them. Oh, wait…
• jerseymet January 30, 2013 at 12:20 pm

  Glad to see it settled.