Comments on: How Many Games Will The Mets Win In 2013?

By: peter

peter — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 16:38:45 +0000

Here is the help on the upside,,,, Harvey, Neise, Gee, Wheeler by mid season, Drnaud by mid season if not May which is more likely, Duda, Kirk and Cowgill combo in center, Famillia in pen, Edgin, Carson,,,,, and more than like a more consistent year from Santana… I mean unless you think these guys peaked already.

By: Hotstreak

Hotstreak — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:25:01 +0000

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/59613/how-the-2013-mets-make-the-playoffs

By: Hank

Hank — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:47:28 +0000

The Mets will win 72 games, continuing our rebuilding by winning fewer and fewer games while selling harder and harder how bright the future will be…if it ever gets here.

By: TruthsaboutMurphy

TruthsaboutMurphy — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:08:53 +0000

After a lot of soul searching, countless calculations, my very own process of predicting wins based on various charts, formulas, test tubes, and a quick look at the periodic table…I comfortable in my hypothesis that the Amazin’s will win 7 games.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:08:12 +0000

Addition by Subtraction?

Lets try that…..

2-2=More than Two?
In what universe?

By: BadBadLeroyBrown

BadBadLeroyBrown — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 20:49:21 +0000

Dont worry Alex I have a better way of calculating Wins and Losses….I ate a lot of corn last night and took a dump the next day needless to say. The Crap I took resembles the team the Mets will put on the field next year. So what I did was count each corn kernel…….And Poof! Walaah!

I got the Answer, which is………..Who Cares! All we need to know is that we will suck badly and wont contend for a playoff spot

By: taskmaster4450

taskmaster4450 — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:56:17 +0000

Just putting the words Parnell and closer in the same sentence send chills up my spine.

I think Edgin has the make up to be a closer…Parnell has twice proven he cant hack it.

By: USMF

USMF — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:47:34 +0000

Well lets look at it this way then…Lets say that Santana performs next year close to what he did last year…that should get him about five wins by the all star break and maybe six wins by the trade deadline. so let’s even give him the benefit of a doubt and say he gets eight wins and gets traded…that leaves about 1/3 of a season for Wheeler (assuming he’s the guy and he’s ready).

Now if we use Harvey as the bench mark, Harvey put up three wins in ten starts…so the reality we’re looking at is between Wheeler and Santana is between 10-15 wins between the two of them. That’s assuming that Santana is traded and Wheeler takes his place and IF Santana is traded, it means that he’s pitching well. We also have to figure the possibility that Santana is done and/or injured and can’t pitch a full season. We also have to assume that Wheeler is ready to pitch in MLB. The Mets will probably want to wait as long as possible before promoting Wheeler (like they did with Harvey). That means that we will also have 4-5 starts from a complete bust from guy who might win one or two starts?

That means that we’ll probably see Collin McHugh/Jeremy Hefner/Chris Schwinden do some filler games to…

I still say that leaves the team around 70 wins total.

By: Hitman

Hitman — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:42:06 +0000

Bingo.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:38:13 +0000

LoL, This

By: DrDooby

DrDooby — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:35:31 +0000

Or a -10 for all his evilness after sabotaging our 2011 and 2012 World Series runs ?

By: Boomer

Boomer — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:14:59 +0000

What happens to Santana’s spot if he gets traded? Zero wins? The expectation is that Wheeler comes up to take his spot, you don’t think our number one prospect is good for any wins assuming he takes the bulk of Santana’s starts?

Seems unlikely.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:11:57 +0000

You forgot to say on paper.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:10:21 +0000

this team is worst than the team that won 74 games if that’s possible…

By: USMF

USMF — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:09:08 +0000

I honestly don’t think that the addition by subtraction theory works with Bay. Lets be honest, Bay didn’t get to play that much last year (only 194 AB’s)…he was either hurt or on the bench. When he did play early in the season, the Mets won despite of him and when he had that couple of weeks to save his job, the team was already on the path of losing badly because of horrible bullpen performances.

Ture, Bay was a huge hole in the lineup and a wasted roster spot…but whoever ends up playing right field (assuming Duda is in left) is going to hit maybe 70 points higher than Bay? Hit maybe four more HR’s 20 more RBI? That’s not really going to help win a lot of games…now figure in that last year Bay was a pretty good fielder in left and Torres (while was disapointing) played a decent CF…now we have neither…we don’t even know who will be in the OF…Duda is slow, Spin is inexperianced and a problem in the clubhouse, Baxter is OK, but not an everyday player…I like Nieuwenheis, but not sure if he can hit yet and the rest of the pool are serviceable at best fielders with not history to show that they are better than average AAAA type players.

It’s not like our LF was good no matter who was playing…look at the numbers; Bay started in 65 games. LF hit about 15 HRs (8 from Bay) batted .234 and got about 48 RBI (20 from Bay). The worst thing is, the majority of production from LF came from Scott Hairston who probably gone too…

As for the pitching perdictions, everyone of our pitchers now have to more up in depth chart and have no one in the pen that can hold leads. Plus you add in the fact that non of these guys have hit 200 innings recently if ever, the pen is going to get burned out by May.

Neise is a number #1, he’ll probably be good for 10-15 wins…Santana won’t get more than 10, mostly because he’ll get traded if he shows he’s healthy and can perform. Harvey and Gee will probably get 20-25 together and our unknown 5th starter might get us close to 10 wins. That’s about 50 wins from the starting rotation…not a good number especially seeing how weak the pen is…I say 70 wins is probably the under/over mark for 2013.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:06:39 +0000

Well, it could be argued that the win total will be a (less than scientific) indicator of how Niese, Harvey etc etc are coming around.

And I think if guys like Santana and Buck have big years, they won’t finish the season here.

By: Barry Duchan

Barry Duchan — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:55:34 +0000

Assuming they don’t go to the post-season which is a pretty safe assumption, the number of wins matters much less than how Harvey, Wheeler, Niese, d’Arnaud and Nieuwenhuis perform on the major league level as well as the progress made by Flores, Nimmo, and Syndergaard in the minors. If they all have good years and one or two have exceptionally good years, then I’ll feel the Mets are building a foundation for a playoff run in a year or two. Establishing Edgin or Parnell as a legitimate closer would also be nice. That’s really all I want out of this season. On the other hand, if the Mets were to win 85 games (but still miss the playoffs) because John Buck, Frank Francisco, and Johan Santana have big seasons, but Harvey, Wheeler, and d’Arnaud falter, I’d consider the season a failure.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:39:52 +0000

If I had to make a guesstimate, I’d agree with you.

By: TRS86

TRS86 — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:38:45 +0000

Not only that but the chances of Dickey repeating those 20 wins this year for the Mets were 100-1 IMO.

By: Hitman

Hitman — Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:36:25 +0000

No, just the fact that all of your predictions tend to be wayyy off (I.E. Marlins, Yanks, Tigers) and in general, this is no 65-win team. Out of all the complaints you made about the team, the main one that stands out and has the most merit is the bullpen. I can deal with a questionable OF. Seen it before (2000), but having a good foundation of arms in the rotation (which they have) and the bullpen is what will be the difference maker.