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	<title>Comments on: ESPN: Mets Could Contend Again In 2015</title>
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		<title>By: Jack Strawb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Strawb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a hoot, Joe. 

Don&#039;t take this the wrong way, but you need some very, very basic education. The Mets were never going to even remotely consider signing BJ Upton. Upton got in the neighborhood of a not unexpected 5/73 deal. 

There was NO chance the Mets were ever going to sign him. If you&#039;re that out of touch with the team&#039;s finances, there&#039;s no way your analysis is going to make any sense at all and, sadly, it does not. 

It&#039;s as if you thought only willpower was keeping the club from a $125m payroll, a figure we&#039;re enormously unlikely to see for the next five years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a hoot, Joe. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take this the wrong way, but you need some very, very basic education. The Mets were never going to even remotely consider signing BJ Upton. Upton got in the neighborhood of a not unexpected 5/73 deal. </p>
<p>There was NO chance the Mets were ever going to sign him. If you&#8217;re that out of touch with the team&#8217;s finances, there&#8217;s no way your analysis is going to make any sense at all and, sadly, it does not. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s as if you thought only willpower was keeping the club from a $125m payroll, a figure we&#8217;re enormously unlikely to see for the next five years.</p>
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		<title>By: BadBadLEroyBrown</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347929</link>
		<dc:creator>BadBadLEroyBrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fairy Tales may come true it can happen to you..........................................................

2012 turned to 2013
2013 turned to 2014
2014 turned to 2015
2015......................................you get the picture....one of these years theyll have a good year then you;; here these same predictors say,&quot;I told you so&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fairy Tales may come true it can happen to you&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>2012 turned to 2013<br />
2013 turned to 2014<br />
2014 turned to 2015<br />
2015&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..you get the picture&#8230;.one of these years theyll have a good year then you;; here these same predictors say,&#8221;I told you so&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Padilla</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347262</link>
		<dc:creator>Padilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t start talking contender until tthe Alderson jessup crowd is fired and their staff purged from the morgue that wiull be City Field until that happens.   Jessup doesn&#039;t weant to mention a year anymore.  How sweet.  The Alderson plan will take forever, and a day.    The party is over for them Only the staff beleives still, Well they hope, even they don&#039;t beleive anymore]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t start talking contender until tthe Alderson jessup crowd is fired and their staff purged from the morgue that wiull be City Field until that happens.   Jessup doesn&#8217;t weant to mention a year anymore.  How sweet.  The Alderson plan will take forever, and a day.    The party is over for them Only the staff beleives still, Well they hope, even they don&#8217;t beleive anymore</p>
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		<title>By: Padilla</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347256</link>
		<dc:creator>Padilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 18:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347171</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sort of agree they will...just don&#039;t agree they should but I know thats not what you were suggesting at all! LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sort of agree they will&#8230;just don&#8217;t agree they should but I know thats not what you were suggesting at all! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: jerseymet</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347167</link>
		<dc:creator>jerseymet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t listen to what Sandy says.  Look at the trend lines.   Salary goes down.  Team age goes down.  The most valued players are sold when their market value is up.   A willingness to eat expensive contracts to gain prospect talent.  Differed Gratification.    

If Niese and Davis get off to good starts they will be sold in July.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t listen to what Sandy says.  Look at the trend lines.   Salary goes down.  Team age goes down.  The most valued players are sold when their market value is up.   A willingness to eat expensive contracts to gain prospect talent.  Differed Gratification.    </p>
<p>If Niese and Davis get off to good starts they will be sold in July.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347160</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember these days?
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/129500-are-the-mets-the-team-to-beat-this-year
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/bitterbill/2009/09/mets-truly-are-team-to-beat.html

Famous last predictions....and they only predicted the season ahead...
Anyone who thinks they know how good a team will be two years from now if just grasping at a straw to fell better about what he knows he will have to sit through this year!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember these days?<br />
<a href="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/129500-are-the-mets-the-team-to-beat-this-year" rel="nofollow">http://bleacherreport.com/articles/129500-are-the-mets-the-team-to-beat-this-year</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/bitterbill/2009/09/mets-truly-are-team-to-beat.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/bitterbill/2009/09/mets-truly-are-team-to-beat.html</a></p>
<p>Famous last predictions&#8230;.and they only predicted the season ahead&#8230;<br />
Anyone who thinks they know how good a team will be two years from now if just grasping at a straw to fell better about what he knows he will have to sit through this year!</p>
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		<title>By: GameGeezer</title>
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		<dc:creator>GameGeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 16:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post Lou!!! I had to pick myself off the floor from laughing so hard.

BTW I have it on the authority of the Amazing Kreskin that the Mets will win it
all in 2016! Start saving up for those WS tickets!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Lou!!! I had to pick myself off the floor from laughing so hard.</p>
<p>BTW I have it on the authority of the Amazing Kreskin that the Mets will win it<br />
all in 2016! Start saving up for those WS tickets!</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347132</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thats my Worry too....
I can see them both being traded for OF and Sandy not spending a penny of the Santana or Bay money next offseason.

He will put Duda at 1st and tell us all about Snydergaard on the way so be patient we aren&#039;t ready to compete yet....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats my Worry too&#8230;.<br />
I can see them both being traded for OF and Sandy not spending a penny of the Santana or Bay money next offseason.</p>
<p>He will put Duda at 1st and tell us all about Snydergaard on the way so be patient we aren&#8217;t ready to compete yet&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347129</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frankie gets a star in Hollywood or this post!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankie gets a star in Hollywood or this post!</p>
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		<title>By: jerseymet</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347122</link>
		<dc:creator>jerseymet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not so sure Niese or Davis will still be here when the Mets finally compete.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure Niese or Davis will still be here when the Mets finally compete.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347109</link>
		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 15:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Can...Meet foot....Rattle, Rattle Rattle...2015!
LOL

What I do find odd is that this 2015 is dependent on signing guys we passed on this offseason while we once again WAIT for the market to settle...

Well the Market settled and now so too will we.....for the crap thats left.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Can&#8230;Meet foot&#8230;.Rattle, Rattle Rattle&#8230;2015!<br />
LOL</p>
<p>What I do find odd is that this 2015 is dependent on signing guys we passed on this offseason while we once again WAIT for the market to settle&#8230;</p>
<p>Well the Market settled and now so too will we&#8230;..for the crap thats left.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthevansrockin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifthevansrockin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[3 years is an eternity in MLB.  teams can go from the bottom to the top, and top to bottom.  Heck, look at the Nats.  in that timeframe, they went from 59-69-80-98.  Of course, you can also go from 102 - 81 like the Phils just did.

anyway, looking at 2015 as the year they can in effect be fully back as a sustained contendor is fine.  Does not mean that they can&#039;t also compete in 2014, or 2013.  heck, they managed to hang around the race for 1/2 the year in 2012 until injuries (primarily) took them down.

certainly possible a few things break right and they do the same in 2013, and maybe stay in the race up until the end.  Not likely, but feasible.

and also, IMO, OF should be the easiest spot to &quot;fix&quot; quickly.  If they can get say 1 guy to come up and produce (or a guy like Duda &quot;clicks&quot;), find 1 good FA or trade guy (Bourn or Upton could have fit this year, I like Gomez next off season), and you can cover 1 spot with a couple of veteran split guys (the cody ross/scott hairstons of the world).

so in the next 1-2 years, the OF could be easily revamped.  Duda/gomez/Vaughn?  or many other possible permutations.

now, finding top end pitching, that is a whole lot harder to do!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 years is an eternity in MLB.  teams can go from the bottom to the top, and top to bottom.  Heck, look at the Nats.  in that timeframe, they went from 59-69-80-98.  Of course, you can also go from 102 &#8211; 81 like the Phils just did.</p>
<p>anyway, looking at 2015 as the year they can in effect be fully back as a sustained contendor is fine.  Does not mean that they can&#8217;t also compete in 2014, or 2013.  heck, they managed to hang around the race for 1/2 the year in 2012 until injuries (primarily) took them down.</p>
<p>certainly possible a few things break right and they do the same in 2013, and maybe stay in the race up until the end.  Not likely, but feasible.</p>
<p>and also, IMO, OF should be the easiest spot to &#8220;fix&#8221; quickly.  If they can get say 1 guy to come up and produce (or a guy like Duda &#8220;clicks&#8221;), find 1 good FA or trade guy (Bourn or Upton could have fit this year, I like Gomez next off season), and you can cover 1 spot with a couple of veteran split guys (the cody ross/scott hairstons of the world).</p>
<p>so in the next 1-2 years, the OF could be easily revamped.  Duda/gomez/Vaughn?  or many other possible permutations.</p>
<p>now, finding top end pitching, that is a whole lot harder to do!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^]]></description>
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		<title>By: Frankie Says</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frankie Says</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[74-20=54 

Lets stop talking about contending until we win 75 games first, a task made more difficult by the loss of Dickey. 

Lets start talking about contending when we see a 100+ RBI bat playing corner outfield.

Lets start talking about contending when Wheeler and Harvey can become 13 game winners.

Lets start talking about contending when the starting catcher bats over .220.

Lets start talking about contending when one prospect attained by Alderson actually makes the team and has even a tiny bit of success.

Lets start talking about contending when the Mets stop shedding their best talent for prospects.

Lets start talking about contending when the Mets are &quot;honestly&quot; buyers at the trade deadline instead of sellers.

Lets start talking about contending when the starting catcher bats over .230.

Lets start talking about contending when the Mets don&#039;t lose bidding wars to the Pirates and Royals.

Lets start talking about contending when the talent in the majors exceeds the potential of the lower minors.

Lets start talking about contending when the team plays meaningful games in September again.

Lets start talking about contending when the GM says we are not punting and actually means it.

Wake me up when any of that happens.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>74-20=54 </p>
<p>Lets stop talking about contending until we win 75 games first, a task made more difficult by the loss of Dickey. </p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when we see a 100+ RBI bat playing corner outfield.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when Wheeler and Harvey can become 13 game winners.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the starting catcher bats over .220.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when one prospect attained by Alderson actually makes the team and has even a tiny bit of success.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the Mets stop shedding their best talent for prospects.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the Mets are &#8220;honestly&#8221; buyers at the trade deadline instead of sellers.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the starting catcher bats over .230.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the Mets don&#8217;t lose bidding wars to the Pirates and Royals.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the talent in the majors exceeds the potential of the lower minors.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the team plays meaningful games in September again.</p>
<p>Lets start talking about contending when the GM says we are not punting and actually means it.</p>
<p>Wake me up when any of that happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, so are you predicting the mets to be in contention this year or the next??? BTW, not sure what you mean, but both second WC teams from both leagues won 93 and 88 games last year, not sure where you got the 85-88 games but go ahead, keep believing this team somehow will be competitive before then with what we&#039;ve seen from the FO and how far our prospects are to make an impact on the team]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so are you predicting the mets to be in contention this year or the next??? BTW, not sure what you mean, but both second WC teams from both leagues won 93 and 88 games last year, not sure where you got the 85-88 games but go ahead, keep believing this team somehow will be competitive before then with what we&#8217;ve seen from the FO and how far our prospects are to make an impact on the team</p>
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		<title>By: SheawasBetter86</title>
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		<dc:creator>SheawasBetter86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why jump in now and only be able to afford two mediocre outfielders when next year they can get two of the best?  Makes sense to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why jump in now and only be able to afford two mediocre outfielders when next year they can get two of the best?  Makes sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: jessep</title>
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		<dc:creator>jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So many things happen over the course of a season (and off-season) that talking about 2015 in 2013 to me is a wasted breath.

Players get put on the trade block that you do not expect, players turn the corner in development that maybe you do not expect. 

I mean realistically with two wildcards, you can win 85-88 games and be in the playoffs. I don&#039;t think the Mets have to wait until 2015 for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many things happen over the course of a season (and off-season) that talking about 2015 in 2013 to me is a wasted breath.</p>
<p>Players get put on the trade block that you do not expect, players turn the corner in development that maybe you do not expect. </p>
<p>I mean realistically with two wildcards, you can win 85-88 games and be in the playoffs. I don&#8217;t think the Mets have to wait until 2015 for that.</p>
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		<title>By: oleosmirf</title>
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		<dc:creator>oleosmirf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While 2015 is the most realistic, as long as the Mets prospects continue to develop and they are willing to acquire two OF next offseason, then I see no reason why the Mets can&#039;t at least compete for the wildcard game in 2014.

Adding an established guy like Ellsbury, Murphy or Choo and using our SP depth to acquire a young OF should allow the Mets to build a team capable of winning at least 82 games next season. If our pitchers in A and A+ continue to progress, we should be able to package one or two of them with someone like Kirk or Duda and get someone good. 

Or a guy like Flores who probably has no future on this team since 3B is occupied and he likely can&#039;t play 2B can be traded for a good young OF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While 2015 is the most realistic, as long as the Mets prospects continue to develop and they are willing to acquire two OF next offseason, then I see no reason why the Mets can&#8217;t at least compete for the wildcard game in 2014.</p>
<p>Adding an established guy like Ellsbury, Murphy or Choo and using our SP depth to acquire a young OF should allow the Mets to build a team capable of winning at least 82 games next season. If our pitchers in A and A+ continue to progress, we should be able to package one or two of them with someone like Kirk or Duda and get someone good. </p>
<p>Or a guy like Flores who probably has no future on this team since 3B is occupied and he likely can&#8217;t play 2B can be traded for a good young OF.</p>
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		<title>By: Ninemoreouts</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2013/01/espn-mets-could-contend-in-2015.html#comment-347050</link>
		<dc:creator>Ninemoreouts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 14:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*sigh* I was wondering when I&#039;d see the first mention of 2015.  Seems like it was about this time last year that we started reading about the magic of 2014.

Forget wanting to win now... I&#039;m feeling fondness for the days when we only gave up on the upcoming season, not two entire seasons ahead of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*sigh* I was wondering when I&#8217;d see the first mention of 2015.  Seems like it was about this time last year that we started reading about the magic of 2014.</p>
<p>Forget wanting to win now&#8230; I&#8217;m feeling fondness for the days when we only gave up on the upcoming season, not two entire seasons ahead of us.</p>
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