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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 22:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rooting for Piazza the most...but it would be great to have a fellow Kings Park Kingsman in the HOF (Biggio).  Seems everyone forgets that Biggio is a Long Island boy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rooting for Piazza the most&#8230;but it would be great to have a fellow Kings Park Kingsman in the HOF (Biggio).  Seems everyone forgets that Biggio is a Long Island boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great info, Gary. Thanks for sharing it. It&#039;s mind boggling how many baseball writers don&#039;t see it that way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great info, Gary. Thanks for sharing it. It&#8217;s mind boggling how many baseball writers don&#8217;t see it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: SaltyGary</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaltyGary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason Stark just posted his ballot: 


For the record, here are the 10 names I checked: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Mike Piazza, Craig Biggio, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa, Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy. Now let&#039;s talk about how I got there.


Mike Piazza

What am I missing here? Mike Piazza was the greatest offensive catcher in baseball history. Period.

Highest OPS (.922). Best slugging percentage (.545). Most homers (427). Best adjusted OPS-plus (143). Tied with the great Yogi Berra in wins above replacement. No one even close in offensive WAR.

So what&#039;s the reason not to vote for Piazza again? Because he couldn&#039;t throw? Because he was a 62nd-round pick who rose to greatness? Because some people kind of think he must have done something fishy sometime, even though a Mets clubhouse guy was one of the Mitchell report&#039;s biggest sources and never accused him?

Sorry. I&#039;m not conspiratorial enough, I guess. But it makes no sense to have a Hall of Fame that doesn&#039;t include the greatest-hitting catcher who ever played baseball. Not to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason Stark just posted his ballot: </p>
<p>For the record, here are the 10 names I checked: Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Mike Piazza, Craig Biggio, Curt Schilling, Sammy Sosa, Jeff Bagwell, Tim Raines, Jack Morris, Dale Murphy. Now let&#8217;s talk about how I got there.</p>
<p>Mike Piazza</p>
<p>What am I missing here? Mike Piazza was the greatest offensive catcher in baseball history. Period.</p>
<p>Highest OPS (.922). Best slugging percentage (.545). Most homers (427). Best adjusted OPS-plus (143). Tied with the great Yogi Berra in wins above replacement. No one even close in offensive WAR.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the reason not to vote for Piazza again? Because he couldn&#8217;t throw? Because he was a 62nd-round pick who rose to greatness? Because some people kind of think he must have done something fishy sometime, even though a Mets clubhouse guy was one of the Mitchell report&#8217;s biggest sources and never accused him?</p>
<p>Sorry. I&#8217;m not conspiratorial enough, I guess. But it makes no sense to have a Hall of Fame that doesn&#8217;t include the greatest-hitting catcher who ever played baseball. Not to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s always possible Alex I think thats the problem with the entire ERA of players is there is always a chance they used....
And I would even say more used than even KNOW they used at the time!

Many of the trainers were the enablers for a lot of the guys that KNEW what they were doing and I bet a lot of guys got treated by those same trainers not knowing what the hell he was using on them at the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always possible Alex I think thats the problem with the entire ERA of players is there is always a chance they used&#8230;.<br />
And I would even say more used than even KNOW they used at the time!</p>
<p>Many of the trainers were the enablers for a lot of the guys that KNEW what they were doing and I bet a lot of guys got treated by those same trainers not knowing what the hell he was using on them at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: DMets3</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMets3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 15:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done Clayton. I would think Piazza would get on the first time ballot but if that&#039;s the case of not getting in then next year in 2014.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Clayton. I would think Piazza would get on the first time ballot but if that&#8217;s the case of not getting in then next year in 2014.</p>
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		<title>By: Metro12</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metro12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent job, Clayton.  I find this very sad because I think Piazza has the misfortune of appearing for the first time on the HOF in the same year that Bonds and Clemens also do. 
Piazza has been tainted by association. The whispers and speculation on Piazza never really rose to the level of the type of evidence that exists with Clemens and Bonds. If he fails to make it this year, hopefully next year will be a different story. 

And Davidoff&#039;s ballot (and any others like it) was the worst. Absolute trash.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent job, Clayton.  I find this very sad because I think Piazza has the misfortune of appearing for the first time on the HOF in the same year that Bonds and Clemens also do.<br />
Piazza has been tainted by association. The whispers and speculation on Piazza never really rose to the level of the type of evidence that exists with Clemens and Bonds. If he fails to make it this year, hopefully next year will be a different story. </p>
<p>And Davidoff&#8217;s ballot (and any others like it) was the worst. Absolute trash.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Young Lives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Young Lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As soon as a reporter/journalist retires from his craft, his voting eligibility should retire with him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as a reporter/journalist retires from his craft, his voting eligibility should retire with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Just-Da-Damaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just-Da-Damaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cocaine isnt the same thing as PED&#039;s...

and the 80&#039;s were filled with coke heads....

the high that lasts from a hit of coke is a few minutes....the crash is alot longer !!!
Impaired thinking, confused, anxious, depressed, short tempered, panic attacks, suspiciousness, dilated pupils, sleeplessness, loss of appetite, decreased sexual drive, restlessness, irritability, very talkative, scratching, hallucinations, paranoia.

If you can damage your body like that and still produce HOF numbers I say you get in quicker]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cocaine isnt the same thing as PED&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
<p>and the 80&#8242;s were filled with coke heads&#8230;.</p>
<p>the high that lasts from a hit of coke is a few minutes&#8230;.the crash is alot longer !!!<br />
Impaired thinking, confused, anxious, depressed, short tempered, panic attacks, suspiciousness, dilated pupils, sleeplessness, loss of appetite, decreased sexual drive, restlessness, irritability, very talkative, scratching, hallucinations, paranoia.</p>
<p>If you can damage your body like that and still produce HOF numbers I say you get in quicker</p>
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		<title>By: Metstheory22</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metstheory22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete Rose should be in as a player.  If they don&#039;t want him to do any baseball functions, that would be fine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete Rose should be in as a player.  If they don&#8217;t want him to do any baseball functions, that would be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 14:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw a report about bagwell being a steroid user to the fullest. not sure whether it was true or not, but all those guys went out and cheated by using PED to help increase their already achieving talents. BIggio seemed and should be the only one who should get in, then i&#039;d go schilling, trammell, martinez...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a report about bagwell being a steroid user to the fullest. not sure whether it was true or not, but all those guys went out and cheated by using PED to help increase their already achieving talents. BIggio seemed and should be the only one who should get in, then i&#8217;d go schilling, trammell, martinez&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 06:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well glad you did....MMO&#039;s own Exit Poll! LOL

I am really surprised considering the press has the vote that they didn&#039;t go for that storyline and ensure a weeks worth of easy work for themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well glad you did&#8230;.MMO&#8217;s own Exit Poll! LOL</p>
<p>I am really surprised considering the press has the vote that they didn&#8217;t go for that storyline and ensure a weeks worth of easy work for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Metsie! It was quite tedious and a good deal of math but I had been wanting to try this for the past couple years and being this was one of the more controversial I thought I&#039;d give it a whirl.

It would be quite a story if Biggio and Bagwell make it in the same HOF class. Cooperstown would be overridden with Astros fans!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Metsie! It was quite tedious and a good deal of math but I had been wanting to try this for the past couple years and being this was one of the more controversial I thought I&#8217;d give it a whirl.</p>
<p>It would be quite a story if Biggio and Bagwell make it in the same HOF class. Cooperstown would be overridden with Astros fans!</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clayton just WOW!
That had to be a PITA to find all of that! Great Job!

I wonder how much Bagwell and Biggio both being on the same Ballot hurt them.
I&#039;m sure some writers picked one but not the other (despite the shortsightedness of just how great of a story the induction of the pair would be).

I did however get a kick out of the fact that the bottom vote getters were all Part of the Yankees Dynasty....
Lofton was only there a year and did the majority of his HOF resume elsewhere but anything that the Yankees could claim as one of thier own in the hall not getting there is a good thing to me! LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clayton just WOW!<br />
That had to be a PITA to find all of that! Great Job!</p>
<p>I wonder how much Bagwell and Biggio both being on the same Ballot hurt them.<br />
I&#8217;m sure some writers picked one but not the other (despite the shortsightedness of just how great of a story the induction of the pair would be).</p>
<p>I did however get a kick out of the fact that the bottom vote getters were all Part of the Yankees Dynasty&#8230;.<br />
Lofton was only there a year and did the majority of his HOF resume elsewhere but anything that the Yankees could claim as one of thier own in the hall not getting there is a good thing to me! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Mookie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought Raines was an admitted coke head? Rock Raines. Piazza get punished on innuendo and Raines gets in on admitted cocaine use during, before and after games? No wonder this country is going to hell in a hand basket.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Raines was an admitted coke head? Rock Raines. Piazza get punished on innuendo and Raines gets in on admitted cocaine use during, before and after games? No wonder this country is going to hell in a hand basket.</p>
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		<title>By: Hitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unbelievable. Bonds gets more votes than Smith and Morris still gets the shaft?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable. Bonds gets more votes than Smith and Morris still gets the shaft?</p>
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		<title>By: DMets3</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMets3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Jack Morris was a sure lock to get in the Hall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Jack Morris was a sure lock to get in the Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Satish and MNJ! It was a process to say the least.

And Satish you reminded me I forgot to include that in my post! I didn&#039;t know you could write-in names until I saw that. If so someone needs to vote for Eddie Gaedel! ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Satish and MNJ! It was a process to say the least.</p>
<p>And Satish you reminded me I forgot to include that in my post! I didn&#8217;t know you could write-in names until I saw that. If so someone needs to vote for Eddie Gaedel! <img src='http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Clayton Collier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many writers hold the &quot;first ballot&quot; as even more prestigious than getting in any other year of eligibility. Bagwell most likely would&#039;ve been a first-ballot Hall of Famer if not for the PEDs whispers.

Same will probably go for Piazza. Once he isn&#039;t a first ballot candidate, him and Bagwell will probably see similar voting numbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many writers hold the &#8220;first ballot&#8221; as even more prestigious than getting in any other year of eligibility. Bagwell most likely would&#8217;ve been a first-ballot Hall of Famer if not for the PEDs whispers.</p>
<p>Same will probably go for Piazza. Once he isn&#8217;t a first ballot candidate, him and Bagwell will probably see similar voting numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Well done indeed. Nice job Clayton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Well done indeed. Nice job Clayton.</p>
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		<title>By: Satish Ram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satish Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off, kudos Clay. Good work.
The guys who wrote in Pete Rose and voted Piazza are my heroes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, kudos Clay. Good work.<br />
The guys who wrote in Pete Rose and voted Piazza are my heroes.</p>
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