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2012
Winter Meetings Come To A Close, Alderson Heads Back To Flushing
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The 2012 Winter Meetings at Nashville, Tennessee have come to a close and with that Sandy Alderson and the Mets’ entourage are heading back to New York.
Two months of the offseason are now gone, with just two months left to go before Mets Spring Training Camp opens in Port St. Lucie.
Those significant and marked changes that we were told to expect this offseason have yet to materialize, but maybe the Mets have some things in the hopper that were spawned during their stay in Nashville.
We’ll see…
As Adam Rubin pointed out, the same work remains to be done as when they arrived:
• Resolve the R.A. Dickey situation.
• Find a righty-hitting catching complement for Josh Thole.
• Add two righty-hitting outfielders.
• Retool the bullpen leading into Frank Francisco.
Also, Mets insiders continue to portray it more likely that Dickey stays than goes in a trade — with or without a contract extension beyond 2013.
Sources say that Rule 5 selection Kyle Lobstein is already a Tiger, as the Mets quickly swapped him for cash.
One thing I want to mention is that with David Wright’s deal, Sandy Alderson received an additional $8 million dollars of flexibility, giving him approximately $21 million to spend this Winter. That’s a lot more than he’s ever had in two previous offseasons, so lets see what he does with it.
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One thing I want to mention is that with David Wright’s deal, Sandy Alderson received an additional $8 million dollars of flexibility, giving him approximately $21 million to spend this Winter”
WRONG!!!! After he dealt krod and beltran, then lost reyes in FA he had about $45+ million saved up that according to a few people to spend and use it on better players, but instead he pocketed that money up just like it seems to be heading this offseason… This is getting really sad to watch this FO just be inept and pathetic.. THREE GM’s and nothing to show for..
HI Alex,
That was my first thought too.
In fact, when he traded Beltran, he admitted he was hoping to use some of the approximate $2.4 million that the Ginats took off his hands but he couldn’t.
Also, what ever happened the few million he didn’t spend last winter which he explained he was holding onto as a “contingency” for acquisitions during the summer?
I think you and I might be in agreement on this one… maybe.
Do we think Alderson or the Wilpons set the budget?
I never took anything Omar or Sandy said to the media at face value. Their job isn’t to tell the truth no matter what. Ultimately it’s to make the owners money. Sad but we have to remember Baseball is a business.
AdamRubin– Alderson said trade for catching going nowhere. Said they may just go with Anthony Recker as Josh Thole’s partner. Miguel Olivo still option
https://twitter.com/AdamRubinESPN/status/276709734457946112
This has to be a negotiation tactic by Alderson…Well at least I hope it is…with that said he needs to sign Olivo ASAP the other options are scary…lol…please not another year of Thole.
Yeah, I agree they need a RH guy there that can start but I also agree that they should stay the hell away from trading for one right now.
C’mon you got a full day of Mets rumors so much so it was hard to keep up with them with different teams involving R.A. Dickey.
That plus the shirt now that is something right?
Ha! Can I get that t-shirt? This site always manages to crack me up.
Mets strategy? Less is More!
3 straight offseasons of pure lies, lies and more lies. along with speculations, rumors, trade ideas by bloggers to then come up empty… Yet again.. Amazing how people were actually praising this guy the minute he stepped in as the mets GM with the stupid and most ridiculous article i’ve seen talking about Brad Eamus and how we have a change of culture in flushing and that acquisition was what will start a winning tradition and a new culture in flushing..
How can you get a winning culture from a GM who is on the verge of becoming the MLB record holder for the most consecutive losing seasons by one GM? A losing season in 2013 and Alderson officially becomes baseball’s all time biggest loser. That’s a fact, Jack!
Alex, Be patient give Sandy til Year 2017….FYI yeah the ETA is being pushed back again 2 more year lol….
Not from me. Mine is and was the off-season prior to 2014. That appears to have been the year all along and if they are status quo then, I will hold your pike.
HI TRS,
For Sandy to realize his “vision” of rebuilding beginning to sprout in 2014 means the only parts he was counting on when first outlining that plan was the Met farm system and the young players already on the roster. All the rest was “hope” on his part with not even knowing what raw talent would be available to him in future drafts.
So unless he was confident with the youngsters that Omar left for him, all he was then doing was nothing more than selling us a bill of goods in hopes that the roll of the dice would go his way. Starting off from scratch is no vision – it’s only starting off on the bottom and hoping that the breaks goes one’s way.
I think we sometimes all get caught up in this black or white all or nothing mindset. Alderson has not made all perfect moves and he hasn’t made all bad moves. I am sure he was indeed relying some on the Mets current prospects, current players, and a different mindset being placed in the organization from minors up. I also assume we can all agree that he was faced with not only keeping the roster competitive enough that the fans don’t revolt while trying to save the team for the owners who obviously were in danger of losing the team. I also think that the bloated payroll was doomed when he arrived and he most likely was chosen because he is a guy that has had to deal with a dramatic reduction in payroll before. So the answer still lies right in the middle and is still very much up in the air.
‘I also think that the bloated payroll was doomed when he arrived and he most likely was chosen because he is a guy that has had to deal with a dramatic reduction in payroll before.’
This, plus I still do believe he was part of the deal with Selig. Otherwise, the Wilpons could have saved themselves a few million when they started slashing payroll by keeping Omar to do that.
I don’t think they would have felt comfortable with Omar handling the PR and the chores of something he really hadn’t done before in taking away all the money and putting on a smiling face. As to if he was placed here by Selig, I go back and forth but regardless I would say that Bud pressured Sandy and the Wilpons both in this direction.
HI SRT,
So true. Some contend that if the Mets financial problems had mostly to do with payroll, Omar could have easily resolved that himself and that Sandy was brought in to do something they felt Omar was incapable of doing – moving the club in the right direction.
There is that failure to equate the financial situation being so bad that Selig saw the only way the Wilpons could possibly survive was to have a Sandy Alderson-type come on board. Payroll reduction in the scope of things is small potatos. Rebuilding the team was just an excuse to shed it and avoid spending money on more expensive help.
That being said Joey, if they had no intentions of rebuilding and it was ONLY cash then they wouldn’t have allowed the Mets to “waste” money on the other 2 parts of the 3 headed “monster”.
HI TR,
My point was rebuilding being just an excuse for having little money to do anything else. That they made poor decisions with the money they did have to spend is another story, sad but true. Just shows that one having the ability to save money is immune from wasting it, either.
And I understand your point but as I am saying if that were true and it was only about money and not rebuilding, why the need to hire all 3?
Hi TRS,
Why the need to hire all three?
Because there is no honor among theives?
Sandy hired the two other heads of that monster and just extended the contract for one last month – while firing another front office executive at the same time. Talk about patronizing one’s friends (they all worked under him before).
And regarding patronage, last year he fires one scout yet hired his own son (who was woriing with Oakland at the time) as well. Talk about nepotism,
But of course, this didn’t stop him from also firing ten percent of the administrative work force including long-time employees in the ticket office.
Yes, it was all about money – except when it came to him and his own.
Maniac, Leroy, it’s getting very sad and very pathetic what we’ve been put through as mets fans.. Is this some kind of punishment from the wilpons for not going to the games or something? My goodness..
TRS, why do you feel the need to comment on every thread and to have the last word when someone makes a comment? Need of attention much? Dude, you’re starting to look very pathetic looking for attention, i get that the desert is empty and we see the same characters every day here, but by god, you’re more needed than a pregnant woman… Jeez..
LOL, so now I am not supposed to respond to comments? It has nothing to do with last words. I like commenting, obviously so do you.
Also, I have no ill will towards BBL and I actually am able to have intelligent conversations with him. We may not agree but I don’t remember that many times he stooped to your level.
Alex, I’m still waiting for your emails of people picking on you and not the other way around.
I did today because I told him that I wasn’t going to get into it with him. That is clearly baiting and I should be beaten.
I did today because I told him that I wasn’t going to get into it with him”
And yet you choose to follow me around whenever i make a comment… Go figure.. But hey, i understand, it’s not easy to run a desert errr, a blog…
Alex, how many of my comments did I respond directly to you before you called me out?
One is all it takes… and you responded, again, if you weren’t gonna get into with me, was there a need to comment on it? why not just do it instead and move on and not say anything? but of course, that’s not trying to baiting me at all!
LOL, ok buddy.
I don’t and won’t bother you with that.. See Salty Gary for the past few days and see for yourself.. I chose to not pay attention or get baited as YOU stated me to do.. Unlike bayonne, i don’t lose my cool as quickly, but it would only be fair if you pay attention as to why bayonne got banned, which is because he was set up by the biggest snake this site has…
You know what makes me laugh is this is the only place I have EVER seen where a group of people blame their actions on being baited by others. Why is it that you guys basically admit to having no self control and letting others dictate your actions?
It’s like friggen grade school, Lord baby Jesus please help us. Again Alex just do like you’ve been today and stay away from the sexist crap towards SRT and other lady’s, and I will do a good job staying away from you. Until you conjure up new things to attack ala s*urping the wond*r bread. Oy ve.
Because of people like you… as soon as someone say something negative about sandy alderson here you come being the teacher and reprimending people, telling them to move on, to talk about something else, etc, but when your buddy SRT comes in every day with the same garbage about the wilpons having no money then you don’t say sh**.. Isn’t that baiting people into cursing you out? ANd of course, joe d only sees the curse, not the reason behind it…
Amazing. Where in life do you get to use baiting as an excuse for poor behavior?
Not in life, but in this blog…
Got it.
That’s what you don’t get this act can bite you in the ars in real life. What if your employee say what you post here? What about your family? Are these actions that would make them feel differently about you?
Eh many people have different blog personalities than they are in real life. That part doesn’t bother me. It’s the utter lack of accountability for their own behavior. How can you blame someone else for your own actions it makes absolutely no sense to me.
You can only get away with that if you are in grade school.
It’s called accountability….same word many Met fans have used when describing what the FO is doing vs. what they’re saying they’re going to do.
LOL…oh boy.
Bayonne got banned because he used the most vulgar profanity one can use to engage in a simple baseball discussion. He got banned for cursing out one of our writers and one of our readers. He got banned because he refuses to act civilly. It’s my responsibility to keep this site so that I dont have to worry about a 13 year old girl coming here to read about her favorite team and running into his disgusting, despicable and uncontrolled rants. About 14% of our readers are 18 years and younger and I have an obligation to make sure they can safely come to MMO and not be subjected to the word vomit that spews out of some people who only care about themselves and cant control their emotions thus leading to vulgar displays of rage.
Simple respect.
Shouldn’t be too much to ask for on your own site.
So it’s ok to instigate and try to bait people? Is that acceptable? How many times you see bayonne, me or maniac having a nice conversation and donal, jesseP, TRS and others jump in, insult us, bait us and/or instigate us? Sometimes Joe D you see what you wanna see, again, i have said many times, bayonne crsses the line yes, he’s out of line sometimes, but you gotta check the root of it all before condemning him or me. just the other day that kid gary had a purpose to follow me around and insult me all day, he brings NOTHING of baseball knowledge here, yet bayonne is banned and he’s around… Go figure!
Whaaa I want to insult women but not have others call me out for it WHAAAAAA.
Shut up already. Don’t you have a job you should be doing? Everyday I come here and have to read the I am being picked on and the Front office stinks comments. We get it you don’t like Alderson. Move on!!!!!
Do you know what the words instigate and baiting actually mean? Leaving the very first comment on a thread, and referencing an article that was written a couple of years ago, would actually be considered baiting.
As explained many times, this is a fan site that is all about comments, it’s not for you to call people out for doing so, having a differing opinion and posting is not baiting, instigating or reprimanding, it’s simply one person’s way of posting their thoughts which may differ from yours.
Funny how you are always the first to post on most threads, especially the ones about DW and repeat the words choke artist, overrated and make up lies about what other professionals have or have not said about him, yet your call out someone else here for always responding with their comments.
Amazing
Hi Joe,
Very good principles to abide to. I am not referring to any one individual but only that so many web sites encourage rude and distasteful behavior – instead of stopping it for the reasons you cite – in the hope that Jerry Springer type stuff yields more clicks for them.
It just shows that the profit motive is not the end all and integrity does count for something. I just wish the Wilpons had understood that when it came to their fan base.
It was actually a turning point for Cerrone and why blogs like this one became elite and why mine even exist. A big time blogger has a lot of choices to make on what to allow and who his base is. Luckily we don’t have to worry about that in the desert considering it’s only 3 people and all…
Right, and it shows as soon as someone say something how you feel the need to input your thoughts as last words, as if you were the guy who we should all deferre to or something.. You seriously make me sick with your ego feeding BS.
BTW, nobody ask you. You’ve changed your mind many times on giving alderson at deadline, first it was 2013, then it was after the offseason of 2013, now it’s 2014? You’re a big time liar and a flip flopper!
Alex, if I wanted to waste my time I can go back and pull up comments where I said following the 2013 season from before Sandy was even hired. That being said, I think we already know I am telling the truth.
No you’re not… You’re a flip flopper and a liar… Have a nice day, i thought you said you weren’t gonna get into it with me? Yet you keep following me around…
Actually no, you keep needlessly calling me out and I keep making you look foolish due to your own lack of self control.
Yes indeed, have a nice day.
I will. . But i am sure this won’t be the last word, as you need that since there’s nobody to have a last word but yourself in the desert!
Oh, ye of little (no) patience. I seems pretty clear to me that SA is playing this just right. the price of pitching keeps going up. Blo Jlanton just got a ridiculous contract from the angels. SA said he is going to wait and let the market come to him. No need to rush. Grienke is still out there, so are the Rays pitchers. When the smoke clears, who is left will be even more desperate to deal. there is still plenty of time.
I do agree, it would be foolish to be in a rush to trade Dickey or to sign him.
I dont think he was referring to the possibility of the Mets trading Dickey or Niese….but the thinking that we have so many holes when will the plugging begin…
Surely you dont believe trading Dickey will fill “All” the holes we have.
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“When the smoke clears, who is left will be even more desperate to deal. there is still plenty of time.”
Will we be one of those teams desperate to deal for a Catcher,Outfielders,bullpen help etc?
Well it depends on desperate. That would assume that they were all in for 2013 which I think we all know they are not. Thus there will be scrap heap guys to backfill on the FA market after the smoke clears.
That being said, I get what you are saying we can’t fill all the holes with a Dickey trade. However, the Dickey trade could determine what holes need to be filled. Example I am guessing some teams best they can offer are CF, some are RH RF and some are Catchers. All of those of course are a need but they don’t have the luxury of say signing a RH RF and then trading Dickey for a better RH RF. They would then be limiting Dickey’s market. I hope all that makes sense.
“However, the Dickey trade could determine what holes need to be filled. ”
I understand that but who in their right minds banks there off-season on a “possible” trade?something that might not even come into fruition.
And I agree that Alderson will add more scrap heap players. I have no axe to grind with him but if he is in fact a GM and not hired just to cut payroll then we’re in worst trouble than i thought…because he seems well out of touch with the league
Scoffing at how much other teams pay players…which is a lot of money but it is the industry standard, Every team is paying these same prices for players even the small market clubs.
Alderson doesnt want to pay the players, if it was his choice D.Wright wouldve never got that deal. He is one of those old school GM’s from the 80′s who were knee deep in collusion. Thats why the concept of moneyball and finding cheaper options appealed to him.
Sticking to the Dickey point, remember it’s so early in the off-season so of course everything will hinge on Dickey. If they don’t trade Dickey then they need a lot. Their inactivity so far leads me to believe that it’s about a 75% chance Dickey is traded.
It is definitely a sellers market for pitching right now. with extra wild card more teams than ever think they have a shot. When was the last time the royals were buyers? As flounder once said “this is gonna be great!”
Agreed, with the AL East powers down there are so many teams that think they are in it. Perfect time to have a surplus.
Do you really think we have a surplus and can afford to trade our team’s best pitcher? The league’s best pitcher? I just dont have the confidence in Johan and Gee that I guess so many fans seem to have right now. Nor am I ready to proclaim Wheeler anything more than what he actually is right now and that is a prospect who has a long way to go before he can be considered a viable replacement for Dickey.
It depends again Joe on what the target date is. If it is 2013 or bust, hell no we don’t. If it is 2014 and beyond while not crippling 2013, yeah I believe we have enough of a surplus to trade one for something the organization as a whole is sorely lacking.
To answer your first question….I don’t.
SP seems to be our only strength right now – and we all know you can never have enough pitching.
If we could get back something for Johan’s contract, I wouldn’t be adverse to doing that…but Niese and Dickey? Bah.
While I agree SRT we need to build around pitching, how might we acquire anyone to help with the hitting other than stopgap scrubs unless we trade someone and right now it’s our pitchers that have that value.
Definitely a catch-22.
I’d try and do it with Mejia/Familia – even Wheeler if the price was right.
Package a couple them or lesser prospects. Heck, throw in Valdespin and Murphy if the price was right. Couple of teams I’m reading that are desperate for 3rd baseman – Murphy can play that plus 1st and 2nd.
I’m just hoping we retain Dickey and Niese. If we don’t, hoping the return is good enough to warrant the trade.
Sorry but while no one is untouchable, I trade either before trading Wheeler. While Wheeler might not end up being an ace, we don’t have anyone else in the system with that type of potential even close. Other than the 38 year old Dickey of course.
For the right piece, I’d trade Dickey before I’d trade Niese.
Giving up Wheeler….would really have to be something good.
Yeah, I rank the trades as
Dickey 1st
Niese 2nd
Wheeler 3rd.
I am guessing so would other GM’s in reverse order for value.
You certainly would need to add a pitcher should Dickey get traded, like a Lannan type, but I don’t think this team would fall to pieces if Dickey was traded. So yes, I do think they have the depth at SP to survive Dickey being traded.
Yeah they could backfill with a guy like Lannan if he leaves or they could just go with a Heffer/Mchugh until Wheeler is ready.
When was the last time the Royals had such a young and promising team laden with top shelf talent that would make any Mets fans’ mouth drool? I’d swap our system with theirs any day.
actually i think it was “oh, boy this is gonna be great.” to those young ones who dont know who flounder is check out Animal House because its Greeaaaaattt!!!
AdamRubinESPN—Royals actually talked to #Mets more about Jon Niese and Zack Wheeler in trade variations involving Wil Myers — not Dickey. Not happening.
http://twitter.com/AdamRubinESPN/status/276731833171972096
LOL, if the Mets traded Wheeler and Niese for Myers I personally would head to NY and take your pike from you and bring Alderson’s head to you.
What this pike thing? I have no pike for his head….Criticizing someones whom has had a less than stellar tenure so far doesnt constitute having a pike or grudge…I just dont like his moves and or lack thereof and i voice my opinion.
With that said I think Rubin is suggesting various deals involving either Niese as the headliner or Wheeler…separate deals
Pike’s IPA is quite good.
I am a history teacher… LOL. Remember the French Revolution kicked off with the Parisian women going nuts and ripping guards heads off and carrying them around on pikes…
“even as the crowd sang pleasantries about their “Good Papa”, their violent mentality could not be misread; celebratory gunshots flew over the royal carriage and some marchers even carried pikes bearing the heads of the slaughtered Versailles guards.[49] A sense of victory over the ancien régime was imbued in the parade, and it was understood by all that the king was now fully at the service of the people”
That’s exactly who I would of asked for too if I were the Royals. From day one I shot down this whole fantasy about Dickey for Myers as being completely unrealistic from a pure business of baseball sense.
Oh you mean Niese and filler for Myers? Well yeah that’s what I would ask for too if I were the Royals.
Ultimately though it depends on whatelse they can get. If they can’t get Shields for Myers then what other options do they have and will they cave to something like Dickey, Gee and a prospect? Not like they only need one starter.
Would you do that? Niese + filler for Myers?
I would have to think about it and be much more researched on Myers than I currently am. Also, it would be dependent on me re-signing Dickey AND using the cash allotted to Niese to add to the team.
Oh, completely agree, if Niese goes, Dickey has to be resigned. No doubt. I think Niese and filler is too much for Niese. I would think it would need to be Myers and filler for Niese, personally.
I would think that as well but that being said, right now it’s Myers for Shields as the rumor.
Niese “and” filler for Myers?!?!
Hell no!
You should mean Myers and filler for Niese
Yeah it appears all GM’s including our own, thankfully, are asking for incredible amounts in return for prospects and controllable/cheap players.
‘Not happening.’
Good. I consider both Niese and Wheeler too high a price for Myers.
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THIS!
Phillies Acquire Ben Revere
By Tim Dierkes [December 6 at 11:11am CST]
The Phillies acquired outfielder Ben Revere from the Twins, reports MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki
Read mor e at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#OOE5xCrfCGd0RvXg.99 —————————————————————————————————————————————————–
WE had nothing to offer Twins???????????????????
See below, did you see what they traded for him?
Would you trade Gee and Fulmer for Revere? or Gee and Familia?
I am not sure that’s even comparable. Don’t get me wrong, I like Gee…
Worley is 25 years old, has a career 3.50 ERA in a hitters park over 46 starts.
Gee is almost 27, has a career ERA of 4.06 in a pitchers park over 49 starts.
That’s crazy. For Revere… Nice speed, no pop. I value the SP more than Revere.
This.
Good speed, no pop at all, low OBP. Plus he’s a lefty bat. We need a RH bat way more.
I would offer Dodgers Dickey, Duda, Gorski for Andre Ethier. Ethier makes annualy what Dickey wants annually. Dodgers get their #2 starter to go with Kershaw. Duda replaces Ethier. Gorski their potantial LOOGY down the road. Everybody wins. Mets have first everyday right fielder since Darryl Strawberry went to LA.
Well, I’d have to think about it, but in the end, I might pull that trigger, Ethirer for Dickey isn’t a bad deal to consider. Duda and Gorski are toss in’s at this point.
So 5yr $85M, plus Dickey,Duda and Gorski for a left handed bat whom cant hit pitching if his life depended on it?
-PASS
In 1010 career AB’s vs LHP 19HR, .238AVG, .296OBP, .352SLG
Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!
I’ll take my chances with Duda whom hit LHP better than Ethier in 2011 & 2012
whom cant hit Left-Hand pitching if his life depended on it?
I like Ethier but so do the Dodgers. They want Ethier to be part of their nucleous. They’re not trading him.
I know, we all know that there are still quite a bit of holes to fix on this team.
Someone tell me though, since when does the off season work stop on December 6? Opening day is not months away, you really think the end of the Winter Meetings brings an end to all this, the dealing?
I know it twists some to bring this up, but what did the Yankees accomplish at the Winter meetings? Yeah, they made the playoffs last year (yeah yeah almost every other year), but one could say they have quite a bit of holes too. Going into the 2013 season they have quite a bit of questions marks catcher is gone, no 3rd baseman for at least the 1st half, short on outfielders too. They have two pitchers in their 40′s both coming off big injuries.
Man this market is crazy:
The Phillies acquired outfielder Ben Revere from the Twins, reports MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki. Starting pitcher Vance Worley is going to the Twins in the deal, tweets Danny Knobler of CBS Sports. A good minor league pitching prospect is also headed to Minnesota in the trade, tweets Scott Miller of CBS Sports.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#ZwVCfqUI9mWwrVvF.99
what about dickey for justin upton and a prospect……….hhhmmmm?
If only AZ was looking for SP…
they are looking for starting pitching. thier current rotation is mediocre and both of thier hot starting prospects got shelled in september call ups. I will repeat again they dont want upton. They have plenty of OF depth that is far cheaper for them. They are in the same division as the world champs 2 out the last 3 years. You think they cant use a cy young pitcher to lead thier pursuit or do you think they will try with the youngsters? that is the question here.
Any team could use Dickey. But that is not their most pressing need. And just because Skaggs and Bauer got hit around on a September call up means nothing. They are very highly rated. Plus, Ian Kennedy is one year removed from a 21-4 record. They have a need at 3B, SS and then OF if Upton is traded. They are holding out for their lives to get Andrus or Profur. Dickey would be a luxury for them, and they have more pressing needs than luxuries…
Only way to use Dickey to get Upton is a 3 way trade with maybe Texas or the Angels.
Ben Revere is similar to a young Juan Pierre no pop but blazing speed, ideal leadoff hitter doesnt strikeout a lot….only difference Revere much better defensively…
Trevor May might be closer material down the road he strikes out a lot of batters but he walks a ton as well…
Well Twins are stocking their farm with pitching via trade.
May, 23, was ranked as the Phillies’ second-best prospect by MLB.com. He posted a 4.87 ERA, 9.1 K/9, 4.7 BB/9, and 1.32 HR/9 in 149 2/3 Double-A innings this year. Prior to the season, Baseball America wrote, “If his command continues to improve, he could become a No. 2 starter, and he should be at least a solid mid-rotation workhorse.”
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#WbxGZ3IZh6zXMsLl.99
So basically a mid-rotation controllable starter and the #2 prospect in the system for Ben Revere. Man oh man what a crazy market.
I dont think Phillies wouldve parted with him if they viewed him as a #2 or mid rotation pitcher….His command has regressed for some reason he cant get it together if he could he’d be very dangerous due to his career K rate IMO he profiles as a flame throwing reliever
If that is their 2nd best prospect then they are in poor shape.