We all crave a legit five-tool type and feel cheated that this team mostly never has any.

What they’re good at doing is banishing fan-favorites. Win a batting title – Goodbye. Win Cy Young – Goodbye.

Overall, the difference is:
Cowgill is major league ready with a ceiling of a 4th / platoon type OF who hits LHP pretty well and plays solid defense at all three OF positions.
Marte needs at least another full season in the minors and – for now – profiles as a platoon corner infielder who also hits LHP pretty well. Like Flores, he´s not a really good option for the OF because he´s pretty slow-footed.

Now, the A´s have a ton of OF depth both at the major league level and in the upper minors too. So Cowgill was expendable. The Mets are set at both 1b & 3b going forward, have a solid backup candidate in Zach Lutz at AAA and Wilmer Flores & Aderlin Rodriguez who are both a few months younger than Marte and have a higher upside in the upper minors. Seems like a logical choice with the A´s being somewhat thin in the upper minors with corner Infielders and the Mets certainly in need of major-league ready RHH OFers.

Sure, Cowgill could suddenly go Cody Ross and emerge as a 2nd division starting OF.
Sure, Marte could suddenly break out and emerge as a solid starting 3b or even 1bman as a RHH version of Daniel Murphy with a tad more power maybe.

However, odds are, this won´t be a meaningful trade longterm for either team…

Anyone know if the Mets are considering going this route?

Guess we can blame you then since it was your idea on Dec 6th huh

And Leroy, I find this statement by you “Ive never seen a post here stating Marte was left available for the Rule 5″ very hard to believe. Considering this post.

http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/12/rule-5-draft-mets-select-lhp-kyle-lobstein.html

In the original post “However, there is some risk that the Mets could lose some players, with infielders Jefry Marte and Josh Satin, and possibly reliever Armando Rodriguez topping the list.”

Guess who the first person to reply was?

You.

“Sad….This was the only part of our trash pickup operation that had any upside….Pedro Beato!”

And here’s something EVEN BETTER Leroy!!!

“The A’s are another team the Mets should try and work out a deal with for one of those Outfielders, they have 6! 1.J. Reddick 2.Y. Cespedes 3.C. Young 4.C. Crisp 5.S. Smith 6.C. Cowgill. Young would be a perfect fit but I doubt Beane parts with any unles bowled over to think he got Young from the D’backs for peanuts”

Guess who said that?

YOU!

So to recap: Marte was mentioned in the original Rule 5 draft post in which you didn’t say a word about wanting him protected and in the same post you actually recommended the Mets trade for one of the 6 A’s outfielders and listed Cowgill on the depth chart of possible trades and claimed the A’s had to be bowled over to trade any of the 6 OFs.

So I’m sorry if now that Cowgill is a Met I find it funny that 1 month ago you wanted to trade for him and today “You sign Cowgills to minor league contracts “

I never even eluded to that….smh you are pathetic you continue to put words in my mouth because you couldnt defend the VALID points that I brought out.

Cowgirl doesnt fill a need we have tons of 4th Outfielders nor is he a high upside acquisition. We have a guy right now in Juan Lagares with the same profile as Cowgill but is younger and has more upside. You cant sell this move to anyone

Yes the Mets Outfield is putrid and with the acquisition of Cowgirl it has NOT improved. That .250 minor leaguer is still very young…Actually he is only 2 yrs older than Nimmo and has played with older competition throughout his whole career.

The same as Wilmer Flores….Prior to last year I watched almost Everyone on this site down on Wilmer and wanted him to be traded and was calling him a bust. Kid was 20yrs old and people gave up on him. Marte 21 and youre calling him just a measly .250 hitter….Yet in the same breathe you’ll tell everyone here who visits this site that they need to be PATIENT!!!!

Where is youre patience or is your patience selective???? And only applies to Aldersons moves? Cowgirl is another impulse buy by Alderson as was the Pagan deal he had to fill a need so he traded a solid OF for a 4th OF & a relief pitcher….Quantity over quality….This is a need over Quality move. I cant wait for you to say no one was screaming for Marte when Alderson traded him in 2 yrs or so

And I already explained why I was not concerned about his numbers. He was 21 was last season, and he was playing against older and more experienced competition. Marte was always considered a very talented prospect by most minor league experts, so giving up on him just because of his numbers as a 21 year old in AA is ridiculous.

Sometimes prospects take time to develop. You don’t know with young talented players like Marte, one day something could just click for them and they could destroy the league.

I beleive the free agent the Mets should sign for the outfield is Dariel Alvarez. He plays all three outfield positions, has a strong arm, plays good defense, and is a solid all around hitter. I have seen enough of these Cuban players to know to take a chance on them as apposed to signing one of these underwhelming players on the market for overwhelming value. Sure these guys are signing for 30 or so million over the span of 5 to 9 years but Alvarez is already 24 so I feel 4 years at 3.5 a year is a great starting point with a limit at 4.2 a year over 5.There is no posting fee and he has the opportunity to play right away with the Mets so it should be attractive to him. He also hits right handed and can be used as a platoon with Kirk and Duda, or play right field. I also think Hairston should be brought back, but he is also a platoon player so Alvarez has more upside. They should sign Alvarez over Hairston cause it fits long term and the upside is there, but sign both if they can to be on the safe side for this year. They both fit for next year as well.

Then they can go get a Saunders type starter and add an arm or two to the bullpen after that.

Some may have cared and just not expressed it but like you said Marte wasn’t so much the focus. It was more about Aderlin and why he was left unprotected which in the end they gambled right since not only did the Mets not lose Aderlin but no one else as well.

In December the Mets were willing to lose Marte in the Rule 5 draft. Nobody seemed to really care that there was a chance Marte could get picked. But now that they traded him, we’re going to act like its a big deal.

The mets OF is putrid and I’m not going to cry about a .250 minor league hitter who the organization already gave up on and nobody seemed to care then

Worst case scenario he couldve been converted to a corner Outfield spot. It is done all the time in the minors the Tigers #1 prospect Nick Castellano is a 3rd baseman whom was converted to the Outfield….Same as rangers #2 top prospect 3B Mike Olt converted Rightfield…

We’ve done it with our own prospects Juan Lagares was originally a Shortstop but was converted to a Outfielder….Same as 2B Alonzo Harris converted to the OF…And Marte is a fairly athletic kid with good foot speed and a solid arm he couldve definitely made that move to the Outfield…Lord knows we need as many Outfield prospects in the system as possible.

You dont trade a Marte for a Collin Cowgill….You sign Cowgills to minor league contracts or they are throw in’s…In a bigger trade. Marte showed promised in the Arizona fall league and like you stated Vinny he is still young.

The Rule 5 draft had already came and went so they couldnt have lost him. They traded him well after the Rule 5. Not to mention he would have to stay the entire big league season on the 25 man roster.

You always try to find a way to excuse ALL Aldersons move whether they be wrong or Right. It is pathetic