He did not honor his side of the contract and it would have made for a great court case.

Up there with Bonilla and now Bay as the worst FA signing.

If getting to fiscal stability means David Wright is the only star player you can afford then while the word stable is being used it is used in the same way as a patient is “Stablized but in Critical Condition”. He’s stable but hardly healthy.
And while no one here has a problem with trying to build a young CORE, most don’t feel you have to trot a bunch of placeholders onto the field for the 4-5 years it takes to build a core and pretty much pass on 4 or 5 years of baseball.

People knock Omar for signing who he did, but look at who he signed and what he DID have in the Minors and you see how spending while you build is supposed to work.
Traded for Delgado which was as much a SPEND as a Trade as far as payroll goes and Drafted Ike who if Delgado doesn’t get hurt the final year comes in to replace him cheaply the following year. Castillo expired around the time Tejada would be ready. Harvey right around the time Santana is about to come off the books. Pagan right around the time Beltran would expire.

Is that not an example of what people mean when they say Building a Farm that can continually sustain the MLB roster every year so you can focus your spending on the feew pieces you do not have an option for?

The issue here is that some are calling the GOAL the PLAN and those are two different things entirely. the GOAL is the finish line but the PLAN is the projected moves to get there and many do not feel this PLAN will get us to this promised land. So we seem to be wasting 4-5 seasons for nothing. And hope aside lets face facts we got NOTHING to show for it at this point.

And if they do ever get to this “Ready To Buy” point people seem to want to wait for the issue is it’s too late by then, there is never enough talent to buy at the TIME, and for every hole you can’t fill when your ready is a year of wasting ALL that talent you collected that IS ready! So you will be pushed to sign Jason Bay’s and Oliver Perez’ of the world that Omar did when he was a year or two short on his Minor League Rebuild being able to come up and fill the holes they had. Ike was about two years too late to take over for Delgado

Is signing a big name free agent a dumb thing? No, but it’s no more damaging than signing scrubs to fill out your roster. Placing lesser players out there hurts ALL your players, Thier numbers are hurt, and as a result thier value is hurt so when it comes time to make a trade for somthing you have to overpay to get it.

We seem to be trying to find lightning in a bottle in cheap crap and hope it shows to have an average year and then SELL HIGH on them….But they are STILL just AVERAGE at their best.
If your going to play scrap heap players it would be better to sign none of them, take the money and buy fewer merely AVERAGE players and fill in with AAAA Kids who can do no worse than a MLB reject at half the price.
AT least if they succeed you still own them!

You should be able to both build the Minors and put out a competitive MLB team. Nothing about spending hurts your ability to build the farm and if do your job correctly that farm will make that signing a good trade chip at the end of the contract to get more kids.

We all agree what the goal is…The problem is some are calling the goal a plan while others look at what is being done and see the plan will never achieve the goal!

We talk about Wheeler and d’Arnaud and say future well the future is this coming July!
Which means next year SHOULD BE the year everyone keeps saying is the year to start buying around these kids….
Well if next year is a buy year then nothing about buying this year was going to kill us in fact there was a dearth of OF talent available this year that won’t be there next year
That means a year and a half of those kids being wasted not to mention a year of the guys we DO like who are young and already here…

And that is the issue I and many others have with this build from within of Sandy’s Plan
Most think we aren’t there yet…and I say we been there for two years now and still have yet to act on what everyone thinks is the next part of the plan.
nats didn’t wait for Strausburg to come up before they started signing guys like Werth who despite what he gets paid is still a big part of thier winning.
And the fiscal stability we might have next year AT BEST gets you one big star player…
Sorry thats not fiscal stability it is just hanging on by your teeth.
Maybe if every move they make did not HURT attendance they actually WOULD get fiscally stable without the Life Support monitoring we still need today.
So far the only plan I see at work is taking shots in the dark and hoping something good happens…
The PLAN to spend seems to be waiting for SUCCESS to happen before you work towards it, well if you don’t work towards success it’s not likely to come.
We are Waiting for the heavens to open up and say BUY YOUNG GM!
And you have a better shot of God buying season tickets than you do of him telling you when to get off your duff and try!

Look, I’ve seen exactly one championship in my lifetime as a Mets’ fan, so I’m not bailing on them. I would like a team build from within that has a chance to contend every year because the pipeline is filled with quality prospects that we can then add some veterans around to help round the team out. That is what I believe is being done. Just b ecause he’s not running around and jumping in front of every camara or always in the clubhouse and talking to anyone who will listen doesn’t mean he isn’t working his plan. I’m no naive enough to think this plan is 100 % unfailable or that he hasn’t made mistakes (I agree he should have traded Reyes and gotten more for him but they were in a tough place financially and he was one of the very few attractions we had). But at least something is being put in place for the long term.

David Wright is paid to play baseball ….

what else could it be other than a baseball deal

But that wasn’t just a a baseball deal.

Welcome Back! I nearly never agree with you but I always find your posts at least entertaining.

On Mo,

It’s not that big of a deal but I thought insurance only paid for the final year of his contract?

What if the Mets had resigned Dickey and he had Oliver Perez like production? according to you, it happened once, so we should be crippled by the idea of it happening again. or does that line of thinking not apply to the actions you favor/

Every transaction comes with risk. What we need to do is figure out is how much risk can you take and where you can afford a loss if it goes wrong.

Not to mention Big Mo Vaughn is still helping out New York to this very day with housing etc

You never did it and are just throwing out crap to try and impress people. It is just sad.

I took the number of all free agents signed and counted what percentage of them busted….

You can to if you try….

So go do it and come back when you have some facts!

Or do you love the deal and pray tell, tell us WHY…Is it because he might be a great player or because these EXPERTS you rtely on so heavily to create your thoughts for you said so?

2) You don’t have to. Just tell me how you figured it out. tell me the formula and where you acquired the data. I can run it myself.

3) You made a claim, you back it up. When you actually have something solid to attempt to prove wrong, we’ll go into it.